The OP seems to neglect the fact that we can still actually sign players and that players actually want to sign for us.

comment by *Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 12 seconds ago
Liverpool have spent over £700,000,000 on transfers. I know we got a good deal on Coutinho but...
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https://www.transfermarkt.us/premier-league/fuenfjahresvergleich/wettbewerb/GB1

net spend champs, come on

at least keep up with your own claims

comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 seconds ago
The OP seems to neglect the fact that we can still actually sign players and that players actually want to sign for us.
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Werner wanted to sign for you

Klopp wanted him

you passed

please explain.

comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by der kloppites Hi, wie geht es dir * (U13373)
posted 1 minute ago
Champions 🍺
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Exactly, so why be so defensive over a critique of your squad over the upcoming 3-5 years?

Jim’s assessment of your need for signings might be exaggerated (it might not be) but you guys are all getting p1ssy about it.

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Na, predictions over the future, particularly in football, are largely pointless. Jim started off hypothesising about the future of our player’s and club finances and is now stating them as fact.

Who knows where anyone will be in 5 years. I do find it funny that we’ve been praised for our transfer strategy in recent years. Yet apparently we’re going to struggle. Meanwhile Ed hasn’t been great transfer wise for United. Yet he’s going to replace key players at United to put them back above us.

Can’t see it myself.
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Absolutely, prediction I think has literally been proven to be minutely more successful than random guessing but he’s just creating a thread for debate.

Yeah he thinks you’re going to need to replace 5-6 players soonish and you don’t agree that fine but you have to admit a lot of you guys are responding a little childishly, no? You have to note that it’s only Liverpool fans doing this.

For example, if he was wumming, he’d have bites all over the place.

I think that some of you guys need to just chill and refute his opinion. I have done that, I don’t think it’s a big of a job as he does not that it will require as much money as he does.

Meh //shrugs shoulders

comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I�... (U6374)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 42 seconds ago
Klopp legacy could be what a sorry state he leaves them in.


I'd imagine the trophies will be his legacy, I could be wrong but I'm not.
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So true. I suspect a statue as well.
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Nah we'll hate Klopp cause some players have aged.
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Can you imagine

It looks to me, going by the youth players, that Klopp is going to leave us in great shape and absolutely minted.

Part of pur success comes from Klopp working with Edwards and Lijnders. I think Pep may go on to be our next manager so it'd be nice to go back to our roots a bit with that.

comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 12 seconds ago
Liverpool have spent over £700,000,000 on transfers. I know we got a good deal on Coutinho but...
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https://www.transfermarkt.us/premier-league/fuenfjahresvergleich/wettbewerb/GB1

net spend champs, come on

at least keep up with your own claims
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Liverpool have literally spent over £700,000,000 under FSG, it's in the link you posted

It genuinely takes effort not to call you stupid all the time because you keep writing really silly things

comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 4 minutes ago
lets just try a simple task for our friends down the m62, can they answer simple questions?

1. are your 3 main strikers approaching 30 and thus needing to be replaced in 2 years?
2. do you have any quality up front on your bench?
3. does 3 of your 5 midfielders need to be replaced within 18 months?
4. have you historically had to sell to buy?
5. given you had to furlough staff to survive and you've lost your CL prize money and just signed a kit deal with a guaranteed revenue of 33% less than current, coupled with no match day revenue for final 1/3 of season left you worse of financially over the summer?

maybe after you review these questions and answer honestly in your head you'll realize just how silly you are being
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1. We are we replacing our 28 year old forwards in two years? Do players suddenly become crap when they hit 30?
2. If we're using wild speculation and guessing like you are then ill say Elliott replaces Salah and we buy for the other two positions, obviously this will happen over time and it won't be three out and three in just because they've hit 30. This isn't Logan's Run <laugj>
3. No three of our midfielders don't need to be replaced in 18 months. Again this isn't Logan's Run. Replacements will happen over time and whilst we're speculating those replacements could happen within, without even needing to buy, we have Keita and Ox, Jones has looked like a big prospect, TAA could move into midfield, Williams who has also looked a big prospect into right back.
4. No we haven't had to sell to buy but even if we did, we've sold and bought very well.
5. We didn't furlough staff.

Your points are stupid.
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thank you for answering, I'll ignore the other comments

but you don't need to just replace the front 3.

no they don't become useless at 30 but history has taught us that adult males lose pace rapidly at that age, Klopp has always loved serious pace out wide, mane and salah are going to lose that, mane can probably grow into Firmino role and adapt.

but you will still need two wide forwards. plus you have origi on the bench, assuming Harvey makes the grade you will need 1 starter and at least 2 quality subs.

again your midfield similar issues, assuming keita ever becomes the player you hoped you still need another starter and then 2 back ups

this whole argument about to buy to sell...you have never spent big without selling so what gives you the confidence you suddenly will, FSG attitude at Red Sox shows how tight they are, they care a damn sight more about them too.

but I guess all those issues presented are a wum

comment by *Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I�... (U6374)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 42 seconds ago
Klopp legacy could be what a sorry state he leaves them in.


I'd imagine the trophies will be his legacy, I could be wrong but I'm not.
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So true. I suspect a statue as well.
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Nah we'll hate Klopp cause some players have aged.
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Can you imagine

It looks to me, going by the youth players, that Klopp is going to leave us in great shape and absolutely minted.

Part of pur success comes from Klopp working with Edwards and Lijnders. I think Pep may go on to be our next manager so it'd be nice to go back to our roots a bit with that.
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Yeah I have to agree with my scouse counterparts here Jim.
I know you said “could” but I really don’t see Klopp leaving in anything like a sorry state. He’s just not that kind of manager for a start. A Jose, maybe even Pep but Klopp builds good teams and I can’t see him doing nothing for the next 3-5 years and therefore leaving Liverpool in a sorry state.

comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 seconds ago
The OP seems to neglect the fact that we can still actually sign players and that players actually want to sign for us.
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Werner wanted to sign for you

Klopp wanted him

you passed

please explain.
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I can't explain I'm not privy to the conversations, but I do know is not signing a player does not mean we can't sign players.

Do you think us not signing Werner means we'll never sign a player again?

People are severely underestimating the strong foundation laid by Klopp and especially Pep.
Even without major overhaul I predict for the next 3 seasons the PL titles will still be shared between Liverpool and City based on pure quality of their current squads.
Other teams like Utd, Chelsea and Spurs/Arsenal will need at least 3-6 100% succesfull transfers to even catch up to both. (not talking about head to head performance, but a full season run).

After that it will become more tricky as possible both managers could have left the club. But especially the successor to Pep's squad will have a fingerlicking good squad as inheritance. Imagine if they appoint a Manchini/italian-type manager who doesn't care for champagne football, but have all the offensive riches to pick from. That will be another 2-3 easy but boring titles...

comment by *Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 12 seconds ago
Liverpool have spent over £700,000,000 on transfers. I know we got a good deal on Coutinho but...
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https://www.transfermarkt.us/premier-league/fuenfjahresvergleich/wettbewerb/GB1

net spend champs, come on

at least keep up with your own claims
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Liverpool have literally spent over £700,000,000 under FSG, it's in the link you posted

It genuinely takes effort not to call you stupid all the time because you keep writing really silly things
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net spend of 139m?

over last decade you have spent 29m net/season....yet you guys are so bullish you will fix all these issues without selling because of your rocket in revenues just around the corner....

I have asked who you are selling, apparently its no-one...apparently Klopp has the cash thats never been spent....net spend kings suddenly gonna replace 5-6 players with world class quality or world class potential for 29m or even 58m over 2 years HA

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I�... (U6374)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 42 seconds ago
Klopp legacy could be what a sorry state he leaves them in.


I'd imagine the trophies will be his legacy, I could be wrong but I'm not.
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So true. I suspect a statue as well.
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Nah we'll hate Klopp cause some players have aged.
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Can you imagine

It looks to me, going by the youth players, that Klopp is going to leave us in great shape and absolutely minted.

Part of pur success comes from Klopp working with Edwards and Lijnders. I think Pep may go on to be our next manager so it'd be nice to go back to our roots a bit with that.
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Yeah I have to agree with my scouse counterparts here Jim.
I know you said “could” but I really don’t see Klopp leaving in anything like a sorry state. He’s just not that kind of manager for a start. A Jose, maybe even Pep but Klopp builds good teams and I can’t see him doing nothing for the next 3-5 years and therefore leaving Liverpool in a sorry state.
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I agree with this.

But I do still find the situation at City interesting and the potential situation at Liverpool interesting as well.

Continually rejuvinating squads is no easy task and different managers will go about it in different ways.

One big unknown is how long Klopp wants to stay for.

Pep leaving in a year could be a massive problem for City.

comment by *Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 12 seconds ago
Liverpool have spent over £700,000,000 on transfers. I know we got a good deal on Coutinho but...
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https://www.transfermarkt.us/premier-league/fuenfjahresvergleich/wettbewerb/GB1

net spend champs, come on

at least keep up with your own claims
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Liverpool have literally spent over £700,000,000 under FSG, it's in the link you posted

It genuinely takes effort not to call you stupid all the time because you keep writing really silly things
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Yes but he’s wondering where you would get your money from hence the net spend query. His point is that you would have to sell Mané and/or Salah or a bucket load of fringe to get that serious dough to spend big.

Another poster then said new shirt sponsorship deal and so on and so on

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I�... (U6374)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 42 seconds ago
Klopp legacy could be what a sorry state he leaves them in.


I'd imagine the trophies will be his legacy, I could be wrong but I'm not.
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So true. I suspect a statue as well.
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Nah we'll hate Klopp cause some players have aged.
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Can you imagine

It looks to me, going by the youth players, that Klopp is going to leave us in great shape and absolutely minted.

Part of pur success comes from Klopp working with Edwards and Lijnders. I think Pep may go on to be our next manager so it'd be nice to go back to our roots a bit with that.
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Yeah I have to agree with my scouse counterparts here Jim.
I know you said “could” but I really don’t see Klopp leaving in anything like a sorry state. He’s just not that kind of manager for a start. A Jose, maybe even Pep but Klopp builds good teams and I can’t see him doing nothing for the next 3-5 years and therefore leaving Liverpool in a sorry state.
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left dortmund top of the bundesliga didn't he, given we really only have those as a reference.......

Mbappe will freshen things up anyway.

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I�... (U6374)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 42 seconds ago
Klopp legacy could be what a sorry state he leaves them in.


I'd imagine the trophies will be his legacy, I could be wrong but I'm not.
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So true. I suspect a statue as well.
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Nah we'll hate Klopp cause some players have aged.
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Can you imagine

It looks to me, going by the youth players, that Klopp is going to leave us in great shape and absolutely minted.

Part of pur success comes from Klopp working with Edwards and Lijnders. I think Pep may go on to be our next manager so it'd be nice to go back to our roots a bit with that.
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Yeah I have to agree with my scouse counterparts here Jim.
I know you said “could” but I really don’t see Klopp leaving in anything like a sorry state. He’s just not that kind of manager for a start. A Jose, maybe even Pep but Klopp builds good teams and I can’t see him doing nothing for the next 3-5 years and therefore leaving Liverpool in a sorry state.
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I agree with this.

But I do still find the situation at City interesting and the potential situation at Liverpool interesting as well.

Continually rejuvinating squads is no easy task and different managers will go about it in different ways.

One big unknown is how long Klopp wants to stay for.

Pep leaving in a year could be a massive problem for City.
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Yeah it’s the timing of Pep’s departure that will dictate how the team is left. If he stays for 2 seasons minimum then it’ll be fine. If he leaves at the end of next season they might not be sitting too pretty (by their standards of course).

Jim

Moving away from the focus on Liverpool. What suggests you you that United are going to be so good in the transfer market over the next 5 years to overtake us?

Raising concerns about Liverpool isnt a wum per se. Giving an extremely negative appraisal, suggesting the worst in each scenario and literally making things up is.

So I could write an article about Utd not qualifying for the CL, there being a lack of good strikers in world football and CL clubs poaching Rashford, Greenwood and Bruno because they want to play at the top level.

I could go on to say once that happens, due to Utd exorbitant wage structure that they then cant get resale value on the players that are left and have to keepshifting players at a loss as they have been for years now.

This would lead to even more sponsors leaving Utd after the bigs ones drop their money due to not being in the CL and Liverpool overtaking Utd in the money league as Deloitte predict. Then the best players go to the direct rivals of City and Liverpool and Utds wait for the league goes from 7 years to 17 in the blink of an eye just like Arsenal.

But Im not going to.

comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 52 seconds ago
Mbappe will freshen things up anyway.
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ha is he playing the whole front 3 positions himself?

to your other point Carra

no, not signing Werner doesn't mean you will never sing players, but the player wanted you, Klopp was a huge fan, you need attacking reinforcements, 50m isn't that much yet you passed?

after the furlough incident its not unreasonable to pose the question of much money Liverpool actually have is it?

Jim why are you so concerned with the potential liverpool squad in three years time?

Also everything you've said is based on your opinion and very little facts. We broke two transfer records in six months, not sure how that equates to us stopping signing players in your mind...

Sat Nav (U18243)

Whenever a great manager leaves and new managers struggle to pick up where they left off, you realise how lucky we were to have Ferguson for so long.

Leaving aside how amazing he was, the basic fact that the club were following one plan for so long made it easier to assess and refresh each time it was needed.

comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I�... (U6374)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 42 seconds ago
Klopp legacy could be what a sorry state he leaves them in.


I'd imagine the trophies will be his legacy, I could be wrong but I'm not.
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So true. I suspect a statue as well.
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Nah we'll hate Klopp cause some players have aged.
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Can you imagine

It looks to me, going by the youth players, that Klopp is going to leave us in great shape and absolutely minted.

Part of pur success comes from Klopp working with Edwards and Lijnders. I think Pep may go on to be our next manager so it'd be nice to go back to our roots a bit with that.
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Yeah I have to agree with my scouse counterparts here Jim.
I know you said “could” but I really don’t see Klopp leaving in anything like a sorry state. He’s just not that kind of manager for a start. A Jose, maybe even Pep but Klopp builds good teams and I can’t see him doing nothing for the next 3-5 years and therefore leaving Liverpool in a sorry state.
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left dortmund top of the bundesliga didn't he, given we really only have those as a reference.......
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Fair point but they weren’t in a sorry state were they? I genuinely can’t remember

Liverpool went quickly from being far from challenging to dominating thanks to Klopp's management + judicious buys. Rejuvenating the squad and maintaining its level will be a challenge but it seems to me a lesser one than turning the side inherited from Rogers into champions.

comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
Jim why are you so concerned with the potential liverpool squad in three years time?

Also everything you've said is based on your opinion and very little facts. We broke two transfer records in six months, not sure how that equates to us stopping signing players in your mind...
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Mate, to be fair, the article is really just for people to say what they think is likely to happen over the next few years within the biggest clubs in the league.

I don't see any particular concern with Liverpool and I think it's a reasonable discussion to have.

comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 52 seconds ago
Mbappe will freshen things up anyway.
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ha is he playing the whole front 3 positions himself?

to your other point Carra

no, not signing Werner doesn't mean you will never sing players, but the player wanted you, Klopp was a huge fan, you need attacking reinforcements, 50m isn't that much yet you passed?

after the furlough incident its not unreasonable to pose the question of much money Liverpool actually have is it?
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Oh no I agree we're not a club that has a massive bucket of cash to just spend, but I'm comfortable that there is a really good team in place that will back klopp like they have done since he joined the club.

Sure I'd have liked Werner, he looks great, I do recall we didn't sign Fekir and some felt it was the end of the world, it wasn't though, you see where I'm going here.

To be honest I wouldn't be shocked if FSG look to sell the club in the coming seasons as they'll make ridiculous profit on it.