comment by *Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 40 seconds ago
We've played a ridiculous amount of football over 7 competitions all over the world. That's got to have an effect.
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a small effect.
super cup had virtually none.
the league stabbed us in the back over the league cup. we played kids v arsneal and had a mad result and then they gave us ZERO help so we played even more kids as we were mandated by fifa in august to go to world club and take a full squad.
Then we win that and come back and win all the league games in December and January.
I personally think the side was pretty much losing coherence v atletico and watford but how far that was due to fatigue i don't now as we then had 9 weeks off and are back in a different state now.
We were absolutely awful v watford and we were poor enough v athletico but had the game if we should a bit of control.
if liverpool played like they did 2 seasons ago all the time it would be great for the neutrals but wouldn't suit klopps objectives. he wants to win the vast majority of games and therefor the league, and that cant be done playing the swashbuckling style they had two years ago.
oh yeah, firmino. great player, nice guy, scorer of big goals. who cares if he doesn't scores goals in games that you don't need them.
Firmino is a very good player.
Not a natural goal scorer but has many other good qualities.
Read a stat that only Gabriel Jesus has missed more big chances in the league this season. Not sure Brazil’s coach would be over the moon to read that
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 52 minutes ago
“ you can sit there full of grandeur all you like but if we are being honest, as a team you have actually regressed over the last 12 months.”
What have United fans been sniffing this morning?
I assume if we get less than 97 points we’ve regressed.
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It’s not just this morning, it’s been the last few days.
Saltiness has gone up a few notches
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 2 minutes ago
if liverpool played like they did 2 seasons ago all the time it would be great for the neutrals but wouldn't suit klopps objectives. he wants to win the vast majority of games and therefor the league, and that cant be done playing the swashbuckling style they had two years ago.
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Last season (2018/19)
hammered west ham, southampton, cardiff, watford, arsneal, bournemouth, huddersfield (by 3 or more goals)
This season there is a BIG gap between that rival fans remember and what LFC fans remember. The rivals remember the occasions where they thought, how the hell did those jammy Cs get that result and we remember all the chances missed.
this year we hammered norwich, burnley, everton, bournemouth, leicester, southampton, and recently palace.
there have been a lot more closer games.
COmpare to 2017/18. was this when we where "most exciting" for the rivals?
we got hockeyed by city 5-0 and spurs 4-1. and hammered arsenal, swansea, bournemouth, huddersfield, west ham, watford, brighton.
For me what I see is a team thats learned its trade and is very hard to beat. when sides are that hard to play sides sit deep.
17 wins in 17 at home shows that.
but of course somehow we are stale.
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 3 hours, 3 minutes ago
you can say utd fans commenting are desperate, and im sure you will roll out the " bb bbbut he is a good foil for Mane and salah" speech, but you cant argue that that is pretty poor for a player of his level.
yes he may bring others into play, but its still 55 shots and 0 goals whatever way you look at it, and that really isnt acceptable.
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Put it this way, he puts a shift in like Kuyt used to, and there is no chance they will lose him to Real Madrid or Barca with those stats so Im sure they are happy
comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 1 hour, 37 minutes ago
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 2 minutes ago
if liverpool played like they did 2 seasons ago all the time it would be great for the neutrals but wouldn't suit klopps objectives. he wants to win the vast majority of games and therefor the league, and that cant be done playing the swashbuckling style they had two years ago.
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Last season (2018/19)
hammered west ham, southampton, cardiff, watford, arsneal, bournemouth, huddersfield (by 3 or more goals)
This season there is a BIG gap between that rival fans remember and what LFC fans remember. The rivals remember the occasions where they thought, how the hell did those jammy Cs get that result and we remember all the chances missed.
this year we hammered norwich, burnley, everton, bournemouth, leicester, southampton, and recently palace.
there have been a lot more closer games.
COmpare to 2017/18. was this when we where "most exciting" for the rivals?
we got hockeyed by city 5-0 and spurs 4-1. and hammered arsenal, swansea, bournemouth, huddersfield, west ham, watford, brighton.
For me what I see is a team thats learned its trade and is very hard to beat. when sides are that hard to play sides sit deep.
17 wins in 17 at home shows that.
but of course somehow we are stale.
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all i'm saying is that salah's first year he could maybe even should have scored fifty league goals. you were way more exciting to watch than city but you weren't as sure to get the win. now its more about control. i still think you're good to watch just not so gung ho.
comment by gunnersaurus rex (U21846)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 3 hours, 3 minutes ago
you can say utd fans commenting are desperate, and im sure you will roll out the " bb bbbut he is a good foil for Mane and salah" speech, but you cant argue that that is pretty poor for a player of his level.
yes he may bring others into play, but its still 55 shots and 0 goals whatever way you look at it, and that really isnt acceptable.
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Put it this way, he puts a shift in like Kuyt used to, and there is no chance they will lose him to Real Madrid or Barca with those stats so Im sure they are happy
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Loved Kuyt and the shift he put in for the team but Firmino is much more than that. He is vital to the way we move forward with the ball. His intelligence, dropping into spaces to allow the wide players the space to run into is outstanding. Kuyt was a hard worker also but without the technical ability and intelligence. He also has about a 1 in 3 strike rate, which is very good for the role he plays, which allows the two wide players to have around a 1 in 2 strike rate. But yeah, you can compare his work rate to Kuyt and perhaps the important goals he comes up with but that's about all. Not similar players at all.
comment by gunnersaurus rex (U21846)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 3 hours, 3 minutes ago
you can say utd fans commenting are desperate, and im sure you will roll out the " bb bbbut he is a good foil for Mane and salah" speech, but you cant argue that that is pretty poor for a player of his level.
yes he may bring others into play, but its still 55 shots and 0 goals whatever way you look at it, and that really isnt acceptable.
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Put it this way, he puts a shift in like Kuyt used to, and there is no chance they will lose him to Real Madrid or Barca with those stats so Im sure they are happy
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He is technically better than Kuyt. His movement off the ball, dropping into the midfield to drag the defenders out of position, linking the play with Mane and Salah is his main job.
We had Origi yesterday and a lot of our attacking play ended with him because hie is technically limited.
Minamino could fill the void there.
Dont understand people who downplay firmino, guys obviously class and puts it all together.
Chelsea atm are a much better team with a player of similar ilk in giroud.
Drogba, who although a goal every other game near enough was one of the best forwards in the league for his hold up and team play. It's not all about goals.
Liverpool won a pl with firmino.
France won a world cup with giroud who didn't score a goal.
For years benzema always been underrated but he forever dropped to the wing and made space for ronaldo.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 11 minutes ago
Dont understand people who downplay firmino, guys obviously class and puts it all together.
Chelsea atm are a much better team with a player of similar ilk in giroud.
Drogba, who although a goal every other game near enough was one of the best forwards in the league for his hold up and team play. It's not all about goals.
Liverpool won a pl with firmino.
France won a world cup with giroud who didn't score a goal.
For years benzema always been underrated but he forever dropped to the wing and made space for ronaldo.
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It's not just with Firmino tbh, all players seem to be judged on stats these days. I love a stat as much as the next fan but not if it comes at the expense of using your eyes and seeing how a player influences a game.
For me people arguing about a key player within our title winning side and saying he's poor its a bit hollow
he is 2019/20 title winner, 2019/20 world champion ( for fun) 2018/19 Champions league winner.
The guy ties the team together and is one of the very first names on the team list along with VVD and Alisson.
most of all however to purely look at goals is to say he's a striker. that is not correct as he's not asked by klopp to stand in the box and score goals.
he had played 47, scored 11 and assisted on 12.
compared to harry kane (say last year) he is the classic no 9. Kane played 44, scored 24 and made 6 assists
The reality is firmino's numbers are roughly in line with other seasons
16/17 11/10
17/18. 15 goals, 7 assists
18/19 12/ 7
19/20 8/7
its a little down on goals but the team itself performed so thats the vital thing.
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 3 hours, 53 minutes ago
Hasn't he got some stat like the most amount of points won from him goals or something. He does pop up with important moments as well as being the one who keeps us ticking.
He's the one I'm worried about replacing. Maybe Minamino can be the one but he needs time in that role with a full strength team around him if we are going to find out. Struggling to think of anyone in world football who can replace him like for like.
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I've always thought Raul Jimenez could do the same job, not hugely prolific but brings others in wonderfully and is technically excellent.
He's older than Firmino and Wolves would never sell so I'm not suggesting we'd try to sign him but I think he's certainly the closest match in the EPL.
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These opposition fans that insist on telling us Firmino is crap are really weird
I’m perfectly happy with Senor Bobby.
Absolutely love the guy.
But yeah, we haven't regressed, slightly less exciting to watch for a neutral as we're dominating games more now, rather than all out, leaving gaps.
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Nope, 100% wrong. City have dominated games for three years now & on the whole they've been a delight to watch as a neutral.
It's the lack of variety in the attacking seeing you resort to a few common moves on rinse & repeat - direct ball from VVD, deep cross from the FB's, diagonal ball between the lines to Mane or Salah & set pieces. None of those things are boring on their own, it's the repetition that's boring - you play like a data analysts wet dream, functional attacking football without artistry. It's unique & tactically intriguing, but not aesthetically great.
It's the lack of a creative midfielder that's doing this, several creative ways to bypass the midfield, insert KDB into this team & it's not an issue in the slightest.
“ It's the lack of variety in the attacking seeing you resort to a few common moves on rinse & repeat - direct ball from VVD, deep cross from the FB's, diagonal ball between the lines to Mane or Salah & set pieces. None of those things are boring on their own, it's the repetition that's boring”
comment by Devil D.A. (U6522)
posted 8 minutes ago
But yeah, we haven't regressed, slightly less exciting to watch for a neutral as we're dominating games more now, rather than all out, leaving gaps.
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Nope, 100% wrong. City have dominated games for three years now & on the whole they've been a delight to watch as a neutral.
It's the lack of variety in the attacking seeing you resort to a few common moves on rinse & repeat - direct ball from VVD, deep cross from the FB's, diagonal ball between the lines to Mane or Salah & set pieces. None of those things are boring on their own, it's the repetition that's boring - you play like a data analysts wet dream, functional attacking football without artistry. It's unique & tactically intriguing, but not aesthetically great.
It's the lack of a creative midfielder that's doing this, several creative ways to bypass the midfield, insert KDB into this team & it's not an issue in the slightest.
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don't agree with this. a couple of years ago liverpool played all out attack and were more fun to watch than city. they decided they didn't want to lose as many games as city so they tightened it up a bit.
maybe city should take a page from liverpools book and they might compete better next year.
Lack of variety whilst listing lots of variety seems odd tbf.
Liverpool have scored some amazing goals this season.
I can see how a united fan might find liverpool winning constantly very tiresome
don't agree with this. a couple of years ago liverpool played all out attack and were more fun to watch than city. they decided they didn't want to lose as many games as city so they tightened it up a bit.
maybe city should take a page from liverpools book and they might compete better next year.
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They play narrower but not more defensive, the D-line's still high & the football's still quick, they've just got less ways to hurt teams playing low blocks so they milk the avenues they do have to death (with extraordinary success).
They are tactically interesting cos I can't really think of another team who play so attacking (in shape & tempo) yet are so functional about it.
comment by Devil D.A. (U6522)
posted 32 minutes ago
But yeah, we haven't regressed, slightly less exciting to watch for a neutral as we're dominating games more now, rather than all out, leaving gaps.
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Nope, 100% wrong. City have dominated games for three years now & on the whole they've been a delight to watch as a neutral.
It's the lack of variety in the attacking seeing you resort to a few common moves on rinse & repeat - direct ball from VVD, deep cross from the FB's, diagonal ball between the lines to Mane or Salah & set pieces. None of those things are boring on their own, it's the repetition that's boring - you play like a data analysts wet dream, functional attacking football without artistry. It's unique & tactically intriguing, but not aesthetically great.
It's the lack of a creative midfielder that's doing this, several creative ways to bypass the midfield, insert KDB into this team & it's not an issue in the slightest.
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What absolute crap did I just read? Wow.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Devil D.A. (U6522)
posted 32 minutes ago
But yeah, we haven't regressed, slightly less exciting to watch for a neutral as we're dominating games more now, rather than all out, leaving gaps.
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Nope, 100% wrong. City have dominated games for three years now & on the whole they've been a delight to watch as a neutral.
It's the lack of variety in the attacking seeing you resort to a few common moves on rinse & repeat - direct ball from VVD, deep cross from the FB's, diagonal ball between the lines to Mane or Salah & set pieces. None of those things are boring on their own, it's the repetition that's boring - you play like a data analysts wet dream, functional attacking football without artistry. It's unique & tactically intriguing, but not aesthetically great.
It's the lack of a creative midfielder that's doing this, several creative ways to bypass the midfield, insert KDB into this team & it's not an issue in the slightest.
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What absolute crap did I just read? Wow.
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Yeah its mad. Apparently VVD and the full backs are the only players who get any assists for us.
I might start saying that City are boring to watch because they only have one way to beat other teams and that is scoring more goals than them...
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posted on 6/7/20
comment by *Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 40 seconds ago
We've played a ridiculous amount of football over 7 competitions all over the world. That's got to have an effect.
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a small effect.
super cup had virtually none.
the league stabbed us in the back over the league cup. we played kids v arsneal and had a mad result and then they gave us ZERO help so we played even more kids as we were mandated by fifa in august to go to world club and take a full squad.
Then we win that and come back and win all the league games in December and January.
I personally think the side was pretty much losing coherence v atletico and watford but how far that was due to fatigue i don't now as we then had 9 weeks off and are back in a different state now.
We were absolutely awful v watford and we were poor enough v athletico but had the game if we should a bit of control.
posted on 6/7/20
if liverpool played like they did 2 seasons ago all the time it would be great for the neutrals but wouldn't suit klopps objectives. he wants to win the vast majority of games and therefor the league, and that cant be done playing the swashbuckling style they had two years ago.
posted on 6/7/20
oh yeah, firmino. great player, nice guy, scorer of big goals. who cares if he doesn't scores goals in games that you don't need them.
posted on 6/7/20
Firmino is a very good player.
Not a natural goal scorer but has many other good qualities.
Read a stat that only Gabriel Jesus has missed more big chances in the league this season. Not sure Brazil’s coach would be over the moon to read that
posted on 6/7/20
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 52 minutes ago
“ you can sit there full of grandeur all you like but if we are being honest, as a team you have actually regressed over the last 12 months.”
What have United fans been sniffing this morning?
I assume if we get less than 97 points we’ve regressed.
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It’s not just this morning, it’s been the last few days.
Saltiness has gone up a few notches
posted on 6/7/20
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 2 minutes ago
if liverpool played like they did 2 seasons ago all the time it would be great for the neutrals but wouldn't suit klopps objectives. he wants to win the vast majority of games and therefor the league, and that cant be done playing the swashbuckling style they had two years ago.
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Last season (2018/19)
hammered west ham, southampton, cardiff, watford, arsneal, bournemouth, huddersfield (by 3 or more goals)
This season there is a BIG gap between that rival fans remember and what LFC fans remember. The rivals remember the occasions where they thought, how the hell did those jammy Cs get that result and we remember all the chances missed.
this year we hammered norwich, burnley, everton, bournemouth, leicester, southampton, and recently palace.
there have been a lot more closer games.
COmpare to 2017/18. was this when we where "most exciting" for the rivals?
we got hockeyed by city 5-0 and spurs 4-1. and hammered arsenal, swansea, bournemouth, huddersfield, west ham, watford, brighton.
For me what I see is a team thats learned its trade and is very hard to beat. when sides are that hard to play sides sit deep.
17 wins in 17 at home shows that.
but of course somehow we are stale.
posted on 6/7/20
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 3 hours, 3 minutes ago
you can say utd fans commenting are desperate, and im sure you will roll out the " bb bbbut he is a good foil for Mane and salah" speech, but you cant argue that that is pretty poor for a player of his level.
yes he may bring others into play, but its still 55 shots and 0 goals whatever way you look at it, and that really isnt acceptable.
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Put it this way, he puts a shift in like Kuyt used to, and there is no chance they will lose him to Real Madrid or Barca with those stats so Im sure they are happy
posted on 6/7/20
comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 1 hour, 37 minutes ago
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 2 minutes ago
if liverpool played like they did 2 seasons ago all the time it would be great for the neutrals but wouldn't suit klopps objectives. he wants to win the vast majority of games and therefor the league, and that cant be done playing the swashbuckling style they had two years ago.
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Last season (2018/19)
hammered west ham, southampton, cardiff, watford, arsneal, bournemouth, huddersfield (by 3 or more goals)
This season there is a BIG gap between that rival fans remember and what LFC fans remember. The rivals remember the occasions where they thought, how the hell did those jammy Cs get that result and we remember all the chances missed.
this year we hammered norwich, burnley, everton, bournemouth, leicester, southampton, and recently palace.
there have been a lot more closer games.
COmpare to 2017/18. was this when we where "most exciting" for the rivals?
we got hockeyed by city 5-0 and spurs 4-1. and hammered arsenal, swansea, bournemouth, huddersfield, west ham, watford, brighton.
For me what I see is a team thats learned its trade and is very hard to beat. when sides are that hard to play sides sit deep.
17 wins in 17 at home shows that.
but of course somehow we are stale.
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all i'm saying is that salah's first year he could maybe even should have scored fifty league goals. you were way more exciting to watch than city but you weren't as sure to get the win. now its more about control. i still think you're good to watch just not so gung ho.
posted on 6/7/20
comment by gunnersaurus rex (U21846)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 3 hours, 3 minutes ago
you can say utd fans commenting are desperate, and im sure you will roll out the " bb bbbut he is a good foil for Mane and salah" speech, but you cant argue that that is pretty poor for a player of his level.
yes he may bring others into play, but its still 55 shots and 0 goals whatever way you look at it, and that really isnt acceptable.
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Put it this way, he puts a shift in like Kuyt used to, and there is no chance they will lose him to Real Madrid or Barca with those stats so Im sure they are happy
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Loved Kuyt and the shift he put in for the team but Firmino is much more than that. He is vital to the way we move forward with the ball. His intelligence, dropping into spaces to allow the wide players the space to run into is outstanding. Kuyt was a hard worker also but without the technical ability and intelligence. He also has about a 1 in 3 strike rate, which is very good for the role he plays, which allows the two wide players to have around a 1 in 2 strike rate. But yeah, you can compare his work rate to Kuyt and perhaps the important goals he comes up with but that's about all. Not similar players at all.
posted on 6/7/20
comment by gunnersaurus rex (U21846)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 3 hours, 3 minutes ago
you can say utd fans commenting are desperate, and im sure you will roll out the " bb bbbut he is a good foil for Mane and salah" speech, but you cant argue that that is pretty poor for a player of his level.
yes he may bring others into play, but its still 55 shots and 0 goals whatever way you look at it, and that really isnt acceptable.
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Put it this way, he puts a shift in like Kuyt used to, and there is no chance they will lose him to Real Madrid or Barca with those stats so Im sure they are happy
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He is technically better than Kuyt. His movement off the ball, dropping into the midfield to drag the defenders out of position, linking the play with Mane and Salah is his main job.
We had Origi yesterday and a lot of our attacking play ended with him because hie is technically limited.
Minamino could fill the void there.
posted on 6/7/20
Dont understand people who downplay firmino, guys obviously class and puts it all together.
Chelsea atm are a much better team with a player of similar ilk in giroud.
Drogba, who although a goal every other game near enough was one of the best forwards in the league for his hold up and team play. It's not all about goals.
Liverpool won a pl with firmino.
France won a world cup with giroud who didn't score a goal.
For years benzema always been underrated but he forever dropped to the wing and made space for ronaldo.
posted on 6/7/20
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 11 minutes ago
Dont understand people who downplay firmino, guys obviously class and puts it all together.
Chelsea atm are a much better team with a player of similar ilk in giroud.
Drogba, who although a goal every other game near enough was one of the best forwards in the league for his hold up and team play. It's not all about goals.
Liverpool won a pl with firmino.
France won a world cup with giroud who didn't score a goal.
For years benzema always been underrated but he forever dropped to the wing and made space for ronaldo.
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It's not just with Firmino tbh, all players seem to be judged on stats these days. I love a stat as much as the next fan but not if it comes at the expense of using your eyes and seeing how a player influences a game.
posted on 6/7/20
For me people arguing about a key player within our title winning side and saying he's poor its a bit hollow
he is 2019/20 title winner, 2019/20 world champion ( for fun) 2018/19 Champions league winner.
The guy ties the team together and is one of the very first names on the team list along with VVD and Alisson.
most of all however to purely look at goals is to say he's a striker. that is not correct as he's not asked by klopp to stand in the box and score goals.
he had played 47, scored 11 and assisted on 12.
compared to harry kane (say last year) he is the classic no 9. Kane played 44, scored 24 and made 6 assists
The reality is firmino's numbers are roughly in line with other seasons
16/17 11/10
17/18. 15 goals, 7 assists
18/19 12/ 7
19/20 8/7
its a little down on goals but the team itself performed so thats the vital thing.
posted on 6/7/20
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 3 hours, 53 minutes ago
Hasn't he got some stat like the most amount of points won from him goals or something. He does pop up with important moments as well as being the one who keeps us ticking.
He's the one I'm worried about replacing. Maybe Minamino can be the one but he needs time in that role with a full strength team around him if we are going to find out. Struggling to think of anyone in world football who can replace him like for like.
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I've always thought Raul Jimenez could do the same job, not hugely prolific but brings others in wonderfully and is technically excellent.
He's older than Firmino and Wolves would never sell so I'm not suggesting we'd try to sign him but I think he's certainly the closest match in the EPL.
posted on 6/7/20
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 6/7/20
These opposition fans that insist on telling us Firmino is crap are really weird
posted on 6/7/20
I’m perfectly happy with Senor Bobby.
Absolutely love the guy.
posted on 6/7/20
But yeah, we haven't regressed, slightly less exciting to watch for a neutral as we're dominating games more now, rather than all out, leaving gaps.
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Nope, 100% wrong. City have dominated games for three years now & on the whole they've been a delight to watch as a neutral.
It's the lack of variety in the attacking seeing you resort to a few common moves on rinse & repeat - direct ball from VVD, deep cross from the FB's, diagonal ball between the lines to Mane or Salah & set pieces. None of those things are boring on their own, it's the repetition that's boring - you play like a data analysts wet dream, functional attacking football without artistry. It's unique & tactically intriguing, but not aesthetically great.
It's the lack of a creative midfielder that's doing this, several creative ways to bypass the midfield, insert KDB into this team & it's not an issue in the slightest.
posted on 6/7/20
“ It's the lack of variety in the attacking seeing you resort to a few common moves on rinse & repeat - direct ball from VVD, deep cross from the FB's, diagonal ball between the lines to Mane or Salah & set pieces. None of those things are boring on their own, it's the repetition that's boring”
posted on 6/7/20
comment by Devil D.A. (U6522)
posted 8 minutes ago
But yeah, we haven't regressed, slightly less exciting to watch for a neutral as we're dominating games more now, rather than all out, leaving gaps.
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Nope, 100% wrong. City have dominated games for three years now & on the whole they've been a delight to watch as a neutral.
It's the lack of variety in the attacking seeing you resort to a few common moves on rinse & repeat - direct ball from VVD, deep cross from the FB's, diagonal ball between the lines to Mane or Salah & set pieces. None of those things are boring on their own, it's the repetition that's boring - you play like a data analysts wet dream, functional attacking football without artistry. It's unique & tactically intriguing, but not aesthetically great.
It's the lack of a creative midfielder that's doing this, several creative ways to bypass the midfield, insert KDB into this team & it's not an issue in the slightest.
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don't agree with this. a couple of years ago liverpool played all out attack and were more fun to watch than city. they decided they didn't want to lose as many games as city so they tightened it up a bit.
maybe city should take a page from liverpools book and they might compete better next year.
posted on 6/7/20
Lack of variety whilst listing lots of variety seems odd tbf.
Liverpool have scored some amazing goals this season.
posted on 6/7/20
I can see how a united fan might find liverpool winning constantly very tiresome
posted on 6/7/20
don't agree with this. a couple of years ago liverpool played all out attack and were more fun to watch than city. they decided they didn't want to lose as many games as city so they tightened it up a bit.
maybe city should take a page from liverpools book and they might compete better next year.
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They play narrower but not more defensive, the D-line's still high & the football's still quick, they've just got less ways to hurt teams playing low blocks so they milk the avenues they do have to death (with extraordinary success).
They are tactically interesting cos I can't really think of another team who play so attacking (in shape & tempo) yet are so functional about it.
posted on 6/7/20
comment by Devil D.A. (U6522)
posted 32 minutes ago
But yeah, we haven't regressed, slightly less exciting to watch for a neutral as we're dominating games more now, rather than all out, leaving gaps.
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Nope, 100% wrong. City have dominated games for three years now & on the whole they've been a delight to watch as a neutral.
It's the lack of variety in the attacking seeing you resort to a few common moves on rinse & repeat - direct ball from VVD, deep cross from the FB's, diagonal ball between the lines to Mane or Salah & set pieces. None of those things are boring on their own, it's the repetition that's boring - you play like a data analysts wet dream, functional attacking football without artistry. It's unique & tactically intriguing, but not aesthetically great.
It's the lack of a creative midfielder that's doing this, several creative ways to bypass the midfield, insert KDB into this team & it's not an issue in the slightest.
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What absolute crap did I just read? Wow.
posted on 6/7/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Devil D.A. (U6522)
posted 32 minutes ago
But yeah, we haven't regressed, slightly less exciting to watch for a neutral as we're dominating games more now, rather than all out, leaving gaps.
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Nope, 100% wrong. City have dominated games for three years now & on the whole they've been a delight to watch as a neutral.
It's the lack of variety in the attacking seeing you resort to a few common moves on rinse & repeat - direct ball from VVD, deep cross from the FB's, diagonal ball between the lines to Mane or Salah & set pieces. None of those things are boring on their own, it's the repetition that's boring - you play like a data analysts wet dream, functional attacking football without artistry. It's unique & tactically intriguing, but not aesthetically great.
It's the lack of a creative midfielder that's doing this, several creative ways to bypass the midfield, insert KDB into this team & it's not an issue in the slightest.
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What absolute crap did I just read? Wow.
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Yeah its mad. Apparently VVD and the full backs are the only players who get any assists for us.
I might start saying that City are boring to watch because they only have one way to beat other teams and that is scoring more goals than them...
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