I wondered if Liverpool winning the CL would see them slack off a bit in the PL this season (especially having come so close in the league only to still finish 2nd) but it seemed to have pushed them on even further to get the title (in combination with City losing pace quite badly).
So I wonder if with a CL and PL now under their belts, we'll see a dip? For Liverpool to rack up the points totals they have over the last couple of seasons seems impossible to maintain for too much longer. I also wonder if Klopp's methods have a shelf life. We saw his Dortmund team drop off after a few seasons of being terrific - it's a demanding style of play over several seasons and possibly hard to keep up for a long time.
They'll certainly be the ones to beat next season but I'd expect things to be a fair bit closer amongst a few teams.
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AWB has improved post restart. He’s started chipping in with a few assists. His crossing has got better. Just needs more consistency. Defensively he’s unplayable at times when he’s in beast mode.
Once he starts chipping in with a few goals, I’ll be more than happy with him. A fair target for him would be 5 - 8 goals next season.
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Goals from full backs? I don’t think they are necessary. Assists yes but not goals.
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The more goals from attacking players as a unit the better. I know it’s been a long while since we’ve had a full back who could also score a few. But it would be a nice change.
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I can’t remember any full back that has scored from play with any sort of consistency at this club or at all really.
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I wondered if Liverpool winning the CL would see them slack off a bit in the PL this season (especially having come so close in the league only to still finish 2nd) but it seemed to have pushed them on even further to get the title (in combination with City losing pace quite badly).
So I wonder if with a CL and PL now under their belts, we'll see a dip? For Liverpool to rack up the points totals they have over the last couple of seasons seems impossible to maintain for too much longer. I also wonder if Klopp's methods have a shelf life. We saw his Dortmund team drop off after a few seasons of being terrific - it's a demanding style of play over several seasons and possibly hard to keep up for a long time.
They'll certainly be the ones to beat next season but I'd expect things to be a fair bit closer amongst a few teams.
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It will be interesting.
As good as they’ve been they have often won games by fine margins.
Also a lot of key players are hitting their late 20s now. With their style of play is this sustainable?
It will be interesting.
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AWB has improved post restart. He’s started chipping in with a few assists. His crossing has got better. Just needs more consistency. Defensively he’s unplayable at times when he’s in beast mode.
Once he starts chipping in with a few goals, I’ll be more than happy with him. A fair target for him would be 5 - 8 goals next season.
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Goals from full backs? I don’t think they are necessary. Assists yes but not goals.
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The more goals from attacking players as a unit the better. I know it’s been a long while since we’ve had a full back who could also score a few. But it would be a nice change.
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I can’t remember any full back that has scored from play with any sort of consistency at this club or at all really.
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Not consistently I know, but Rafael got a few for us. I know it was a different era back then. But as the game has changed, it wouldn’t hurt to have a full back who could get a few.
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I wondered if Liverpool winning the CL would see them slack off a bit in the PL this season (especially having come so close in the league only to still finish 2nd) but it seemed to have pushed them on even further to get the title (in combination with City losing pace quite badly).
So I wonder if with a CL and PL now under their belts, we'll see a dip? For Liverpool to rack up the points totals they have over the last couple of seasons seems impossible to maintain for too much longer. I also wonder if Klopp's methods have a shelf life. We saw his Dortmund team drop off after a few seasons of being terrific - it's a demanding style of play over several seasons and possibly hard to keep up for a long time.
They'll certainly be the ones to beat next season but I'd expect things to be a fair bit closer amongst a few teams.
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I’m not too worried about Liverpool. Yes, I know the are the bestest team in the whole universe of universes ever as we keep getting reminded, but I know their dominance won’t last. Football dominance regardless of durations goes around in cycles. I believe that it will be a combination of them not being able to keep the pace/momentum and that some rivals will work out a way to catch them or overtake them.
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I wondered if Liverpool winning the CL would see them slack off a bit in the PL this season (especially having come so close in the league only to still finish 2nd) but it seemed to have pushed them on even further to get the title (in combination with City losing pace quite badly).
So I wonder if with a CL and PL now under their belts, we'll see a dip? For Liverpool to rack up the points totals they have over the last couple of seasons seems impossible to maintain for too much longer. I also wonder if Klopp's methods have a shelf life. We saw his Dortmund team drop off after a few seasons of being terrific - it's a demanding style of play over several seasons and possibly hard to keep up for a long time.
They'll certainly be the ones to beat next season but I'd expect things to be a fair bit closer amongst a few teams.
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I’m not too worried about Liverpool. Yes, I know the are the bestest team in the whole universe of universes ever as we keep getting reminded, but I know their dominance won’t last. Football dominance regardless of durations goes around in cycles. I believe that it will be a combination of them not being able to keep the pace/momentum and that some rivals will work out a way to catch them or overtake them.
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I said at the time the Watford defeat could significant long term. It didn’t effect the league this season but I think it knocked a bit of confidence and gave others belief.
No coincidence they’ve gone out of two other comps since then and really haven’t played well since then.
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I wondered if Liverpool winning the CL would see them slack off a bit in the PL this season (especially having come so close in the league only to still finish 2nd) but it seemed to have pushed them on even further to get the title (in combination with City losing pace quite badly).
So I wonder if with a CL and PL now under their belts, we'll see a dip? For Liverpool to rack up the points totals they have over the last couple of seasons seems impossible to maintain for too much longer. I also wonder if Klopp's methods have a shelf life. We saw his Dortmund team drop off after a few seasons of being terrific - it's a demanding style of play over several seasons and possibly hard to keep up for a long time.
They'll certainly be the ones to beat next season but I'd expect things to be a fair bit closer amongst a few teams.
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I’m not too worried about Liverpool. Yes, I know the are the bestest team in the whole universe of universes ever as we keep getting reminded, but I know their dominance won’t last. Football dominance regardless of durations goes around in cycles. I believe that it will be a combination of them not being able to keep the pace/momentum and that some rivals will work out a way to catch them or overtake them.
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I said at the time the Watford defeat could significant long term. It didn’t effect the league this season but I think it knocked a bit of confidence and gave others belief.
No coincidence they’ve gone out of two other comps since then and really haven’t played well since then.
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In the recent seasons that they’ve finished runners up, I’ve noticed that they tend to be stronger in the league as they have less distractions from cup competitions. Excluding the CL, as it seems to be their holy grail, they go all out and tend to go on a run in the league.
Like you said (Watford game) - few more of those kind of results next season or the season after could knock some of their confidence. We all know psychology plays a big part in either defending the title or regaining it.
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I wondered if Liverpool winning the CL would see them slack off a bit in the PL this season (especially having come so close in the league only to still finish 2nd) but it seemed to have pushed them on even further to get the title (in combination with City losing pace quite badly).
So I wonder if with a CL and PL now under their belts, we'll see a dip? For Liverpool to rack up the points totals they have over the last couple of seasons seems impossible to maintain for too much longer. I also wonder if Klopp's methods have a shelf life. We saw his Dortmund team drop off after a few seasons of being terrific - it's a demanding style of play over several seasons and possibly hard to keep up for a long time.
They'll certainly be the ones to beat next season but I'd expect things to be a fair bit closer amongst a few teams.
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I’m not too worried about Liverpool. Yes, I know the are the bestest team in the whole universe of universes ever as we keep getting reminded, but I know their dominance won’t last. Football dominance regardless of durations goes around in cycles. I believe that it will be a combination of them not being able to keep the pace/momentum and that some rivals will work out a way to catch them or overtake them.
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I said at the time the Watford defeat could significant long term. It didn’t effect the league this season but I think it knocked a bit of confidence and gave others belief.
No coincidence they’ve gone out of two other comps since then and really haven’t played well since then.
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I don't think the Watford game had an impact. We had actually been pretty average for weeks before that. The home game against Atleti was actually one of our best performances of the last six months. We can be got at, we're not perfect. The thing is, whilst we have the mentality we have, it is very tough to beat us and as long as we have that, we will win games where we don't play well....something that City have lost this season.
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All fair points. You’ve been a winning machine. If you start dropping points early on next season it will intriguing to see how it will turn out.
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e saw his Dortmund team drop off after a few seasons of being terrific - it's a demanding style of play over several seasons and possibly hard to keep up for a long time.
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This is interesting but difficult to know the answer to unless someone watched Dortmund consistently. People say that the team maybe burnt out due to what was asked of them. If he carried on playing the same way, all the time with the "heavy metal" football, then I can understand that. There are clear differences with us though. We very rarely play that high level press that Klopp played when he arrived and all the way through until the 2018/2019 season. Klopp adapted as soon as he realised we were getting killed with direct balls that just bypassed our press. Now we play a far more controlled, possession based game which is why we perhaps aren't as pleasing on the eye to some.
That said, coaches do have a shelf life. They do get complacent and training sessions and messages become repetitive so there is every chance that there could be a drop off. This is where recruitment is so important.
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Yea I've noticed that Liverpool haven't seemed so relentless in the press which suggests maybe Klopp has learned some of the lessons from his Dortmund days. I also wonder how he'll fare when it comes to replacing players who are starting to get a bit older.
There's a difference between building a team from scratch - as he did - and then maintaining and evolving it over time. We've seen him do the former brilliantly but there's maybe some questions over the latter (at Dortmund, too). It's ultimately what separated Fergie from everyone else. He went through several rebuilds/evolutions of his sides, which always including getting rid of (or sometimes losing) world class players (Stam, Big Pete, Beckham, Keane, Ruud, Ronaldo etc).
When Klopp has to start making decisions about Salah or Fabinho or VVD etc, we'll know a little more about his longer term success. That said, that could be unfair. Vanishingly few manager ever do what the likes of Fergie, Wenger and a few others did/do long term, and the ones who tend to have the best CV's do it across several different clubs (Pep, Mourinho, van Gaal, Ancelotti, Conte etc).
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Dunc, I know it’s your article mate, but consider giving the lad a break, will you?
He doesn’t mean any harm. His views are very different to a lot of people’s, but those who want to interact with him can interact with him and those who don’t, won’t.
He isn’t actively trying to wind anyone up or start arguments with malicious intent, which puts him up above a good number of posters across the site.
To be fair to Klopp I do think has has changed a bit of the style in order to become much more effective and efficient results wise. Can they go again next season? It'll be impressive if they can.
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To be fair to Klopp I do think has has changed a bit of the style in order to become much more effective and efficient results wise. Can they go again next season? It'll be impressive if they can.
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Will be 3 seasons running if they pull off that level of intensity
Also caught a brake this season avoiding extended injury lay offs to key players
It will be impressive if they can replicate it next season
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"Fine margins is the difference this season"
As wound up as anyone is, I'm sure you'll all take great delight in pretending that 'Man Utd fans' said this, along with that we think we're going to win the league next season, Liverpool were lucky to win it this year etc etc.
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"Fine margins is the difference this season"
As wound up as anyone is, I'm sure you'll all take great delight in pretending that 'Man Utd fans' said this, along with that we think we're going to win the league next season, Liverpool were lucky to win it this year etc etc.
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It's annoying when that happens isn't it. I remember the days that "Liverpool fans" said "every year" that this year was "their year".
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Yes, and one can hope that if something has irritated an individual then they wouldn't be so hypocritical that they'd then do effectively the same thing when they get the chance.
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Unfortunately we're passed that point, I think.
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hafi.. i told you... feck off with your shiiiit
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Dunc, I know it’s your article mate, but consider giving the lad a break, will you?
He doesn’t mean any harm. His views are very different to a lot of people’s, but those who want to interact with him can interact with him and those who don’t, won’t.
He isn’t actively trying to wind anyone up or start arguments with malicious intent, which puts him up above a good number of posters across the site.
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You don't think he is actively trying to wind people up? The very reason he posts what he does, is because it winds people up.
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It isn’t, I promise you. He isn’t like that.
He’s got a very unique and different view of the world to most of us and probably just doesn’t understand qualitative arguments in the same way that many other people don’t understand the way his brain works.
I’m not on the wind up here, either. He’s a just very different lad.
How does anyone who is familiar with him get wound up by Haf?
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What are people's opinion on Hafi?
Is he genuine or always on the WUM?
Don't need a detailed answer from people, just a 0 or 1 will suffice.
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What are people's opinion on Hafi?
Is he genuine or always on the WUM?
Don't need a detailed answer from people, just a 0 or 1 will suffice.
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I wondered if Liverpool winning the CL would see them slack off a bit in the PL this season (especially having come so close in the league only to still finish 2nd) but it seemed to have pushed them on even further to get the title (in combination with City losing pace quite badly).
So I wonder if with a CL and PL now under their belts, we'll see a dip? For Liverpool to rack up the points totals they have over the last couple of seasons seems impossible to maintain for too much longer. I also wonder if Klopp's methods have a shelf life. We saw his Dortmund team drop off after a few seasons of being terrific - it's a demanding style of play over several seasons and possibly hard to keep up for a long time.
They'll certainly be the ones to beat next season but I'd expect things to be a fair bit closer amongst a few teams.
posted on 7/7/20
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AWB has improved post restart. He’s started chipping in with a few assists. His crossing has got better. Just needs more consistency. Defensively he’s unplayable at times when he’s in beast mode.
Once he starts chipping in with a few goals, I’ll be more than happy with him. A fair target for him would be 5 - 8 goals next season.
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Goals from full backs? I don’t think they are necessary. Assists yes but not goals.
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The more goals from attacking players as a unit the better. I know it’s been a long while since we’ve had a full back who could also score a few. But it would be a nice change.
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I can’t remember any full back that has scored from play with any sort of consistency at this club or at all really.
posted on 7/7/20
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posted 3 seconds ago
I wondered if Liverpool winning the CL would see them slack off a bit in the PL this season (especially having come so close in the league only to still finish 2nd) but it seemed to have pushed them on even further to get the title (in combination with City losing pace quite badly).
So I wonder if with a CL and PL now under their belts, we'll see a dip? For Liverpool to rack up the points totals they have over the last couple of seasons seems impossible to maintain for too much longer. I also wonder if Klopp's methods have a shelf life. We saw his Dortmund team drop off after a few seasons of being terrific - it's a demanding style of play over several seasons and possibly hard to keep up for a long time.
They'll certainly be the ones to beat next season but I'd expect things to be a fair bit closer amongst a few teams.
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It will be interesting.
As good as they’ve been they have often won games by fine margins.
Also a lot of key players are hitting their late 20s now. With their style of play is this sustainable?
It will be interesting.
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AWB has improved post restart. He’s started chipping in with a few assists. His crossing has got better. Just needs more consistency. Defensively he’s unplayable at times when he’s in beast mode.
Once he starts chipping in with a few goals, I’ll be more than happy with him. A fair target for him would be 5 - 8 goals next season.
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Goals from full backs? I don’t think they are necessary. Assists yes but not goals.
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The more goals from attacking players as a unit the better. I know it’s been a long while since we’ve had a full back who could also score a few. But it would be a nice change.
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I can’t remember any full back that has scored from play with any sort of consistency at this club or at all really.
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Not consistently I know, but Rafael got a few for us. I know it was a different era back then. But as the game has changed, it wouldn’t hurt to have a full back who could get a few.
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comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 5 minutes ago
I wondered if Liverpool winning the CL would see them slack off a bit in the PL this season (especially having come so close in the league only to still finish 2nd) but it seemed to have pushed them on even further to get the title (in combination with City losing pace quite badly).
So I wonder if with a CL and PL now under their belts, we'll see a dip? For Liverpool to rack up the points totals they have over the last couple of seasons seems impossible to maintain for too much longer. I also wonder if Klopp's methods have a shelf life. We saw his Dortmund team drop off after a few seasons of being terrific - it's a demanding style of play over several seasons and possibly hard to keep up for a long time.
They'll certainly be the ones to beat next season but I'd expect things to be a fair bit closer amongst a few teams.
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I’m not too worried about Liverpool. Yes, I know the are the bestest team in the whole universe of universes ever as we keep getting reminded, but I know their dominance won’t last. Football dominance regardless of durations goes around in cycles. I believe that it will be a combination of them not being able to keep the pace/momentum and that some rivals will work out a way to catch them or overtake them.
posted on 7/7/20
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comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 5 minutes ago
I wondered if Liverpool winning the CL would see them slack off a bit in the PL this season (especially having come so close in the league only to still finish 2nd) but it seemed to have pushed them on even further to get the title (in combination with City losing pace quite badly).
So I wonder if with a CL and PL now under their belts, we'll see a dip? For Liverpool to rack up the points totals they have over the last couple of seasons seems impossible to maintain for too much longer. I also wonder if Klopp's methods have a shelf life. We saw his Dortmund team drop off after a few seasons of being terrific - it's a demanding style of play over several seasons and possibly hard to keep up for a long time.
They'll certainly be the ones to beat next season but I'd expect things to be a fair bit closer amongst a few teams.
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I’m not too worried about Liverpool. Yes, I know the are the bestest team in the whole universe of universes ever as we keep getting reminded, but I know their dominance won’t last. Football dominance regardless of durations goes around in cycles. I believe that it will be a combination of them not being able to keep the pace/momentum and that some rivals will work out a way to catch them or overtake them.
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I said at the time the Watford defeat could significant long term. It didn’t effect the league this season but I think it knocked a bit of confidence and gave others belief.
No coincidence they’ve gone out of two other comps since then and really haven’t played well since then.
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I wondered if Liverpool winning the CL would see them slack off a bit in the PL this season (especially having come so close in the league only to still finish 2nd) but it seemed to have pushed them on even further to get the title (in combination with City losing pace quite badly).
So I wonder if with a CL and PL now under their belts, we'll see a dip? For Liverpool to rack up the points totals they have over the last couple of seasons seems impossible to maintain for too much longer. I also wonder if Klopp's methods have a shelf life. We saw his Dortmund team drop off after a few seasons of being terrific - it's a demanding style of play over several seasons and possibly hard to keep up for a long time.
They'll certainly be the ones to beat next season but I'd expect things to be a fair bit closer amongst a few teams.
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I’m not too worried about Liverpool. Yes, I know the are the bestest team in the whole universe of universes ever as we keep getting reminded, but I know their dominance won’t last. Football dominance regardless of durations goes around in cycles. I believe that it will be a combination of them not being able to keep the pace/momentum and that some rivals will work out a way to catch them or overtake them.
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I said at the time the Watford defeat could significant long term. It didn’t effect the league this season but I think it knocked a bit of confidence and gave others belief.
No coincidence they’ve gone out of two other comps since then and really haven’t played well since then.
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In the recent seasons that they’ve finished runners up, I’ve noticed that they tend to be stronger in the league as they have less distractions from cup competitions. Excluding the CL, as it seems to be their holy grail, they go all out and tend to go on a run in the league.
Like you said (Watford game) - few more of those kind of results next season or the season after could knock some of their confidence. We all know psychology plays a big part in either defending the title or regaining it.
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posted 5 minutes ago
I wondered if Liverpool winning the CL would see them slack off a bit in the PL this season (especially having come so close in the league only to still finish 2nd) but it seemed to have pushed them on even further to get the title (in combination with City losing pace quite badly).
So I wonder if with a CL and PL now under their belts, we'll see a dip? For Liverpool to rack up the points totals they have over the last couple of seasons seems impossible to maintain for too much longer. I also wonder if Klopp's methods have a shelf life. We saw his Dortmund team drop off after a few seasons of being terrific - it's a demanding style of play over several seasons and possibly hard to keep up for a long time.
They'll certainly be the ones to beat next season but I'd expect things to be a fair bit closer amongst a few teams.
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I’m not too worried about Liverpool. Yes, I know the are the bestest team in the whole universe of universes ever as we keep getting reminded, but I know their dominance won’t last. Football dominance regardless of durations goes around in cycles. I believe that it will be a combination of them not being able to keep the pace/momentum and that some rivals will work out a way to catch them or overtake them.
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I said at the time the Watford defeat could significant long term. It didn’t effect the league this season but I think it knocked a bit of confidence and gave others belief.
No coincidence they’ve gone out of two other comps since then and really haven’t played well since then.
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I don't think the Watford game had an impact. We had actually been pretty average for weeks before that. The home game against Atleti was actually one of our best performances of the last six months. We can be got at, we're not perfect. The thing is, whilst we have the mentality we have, it is very tough to beat us and as long as we have that, we will win games where we don't play well....something that City have lost this season.
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All fair points. You’ve been a winning machine. If you start dropping points early on next season it will intriguing to see how it will turn out.
posted on 7/7/20
comment by *GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
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e saw his Dortmund team drop off after a few seasons of being terrific - it's a demanding style of play over several seasons and possibly hard to keep up for a long time.
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This is interesting but difficult to know the answer to unless someone watched Dortmund consistently. People say that the team maybe burnt out due to what was asked of them. If he carried on playing the same way, all the time with the "heavy metal" football, then I can understand that. There are clear differences with us though. We very rarely play that high level press that Klopp played when he arrived and all the way through until the 2018/2019 season. Klopp adapted as soon as he realised we were getting killed with direct balls that just bypassed our press. Now we play a far more controlled, possession based game which is why we perhaps aren't as pleasing on the eye to some.
That said, coaches do have a shelf life. They do get complacent and training sessions and messages become repetitive so there is every chance that there could be a drop off. This is where recruitment is so important.
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Yea I've noticed that Liverpool haven't seemed so relentless in the press which suggests maybe Klopp has learned some of the lessons from his Dortmund days. I also wonder how he'll fare when it comes to replacing players who are starting to get a bit older.
There's a difference between building a team from scratch - as he did - and then maintaining and evolving it over time. We've seen him do the former brilliantly but there's maybe some questions over the latter (at Dortmund, too). It's ultimately what separated Fergie from everyone else. He went through several rebuilds/evolutions of his sides, which always including getting rid of (or sometimes losing) world class players (Stam, Big Pete, Beckham, Keane, Ruud, Ronaldo etc).
When Klopp has to start making decisions about Salah or Fabinho or VVD etc, we'll know a little more about his longer term success. That said, that could be unfair. Vanishingly few manager ever do what the likes of Fergie, Wenger and a few others did/do long term, and the ones who tend to have the best CV's do it across several different clubs (Pep, Mourinho, van Gaal, Ancelotti, Conte etc).
posted on 7/7/20
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
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hafi.. i told you... feck off with your shiiiit
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Dunc, I know it’s your article mate, but consider giving the lad a break, will you?
He doesn’t mean any harm. His views are very different to a lot of people’s, but those who want to interact with him can interact with him and those who don’t, won’t.
He isn’t actively trying to wind anyone up or start arguments with malicious intent, which puts him up above a good number of posters across the site.
posted on 7/7/20
To be fair to Klopp I do think has has changed a bit of the style in order to become much more effective and efficient results wise. Can they go again next season? It'll be impressive if they can.
posted on 7/7/20
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 8 minutes ago
To be fair to Klopp I do think has has changed a bit of the style in order to become much more effective and efficient results wise. Can they go again next season? It'll be impressive if they can.
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Will be 3 seasons running if they pull off that level of intensity
Also caught a brake this season avoiding extended injury lay offs to key players
It will be impressive if they can replicate it next season
posted on 7/7/20
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posted on 7/7/20
"Fine margins is the difference this season"
As wound up as anyone is, I'm sure you'll all take great delight in pretending that 'Man Utd fans' said this, along with that we think we're going to win the league next season, Liverpool were lucky to win it this year etc etc.
posted on 7/7/20
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posted on 7/7/20
comment by *GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 10 minutes ago
"Fine margins is the difference this season"
As wound up as anyone is, I'm sure you'll all take great delight in pretending that 'Man Utd fans' said this, along with that we think we're going to win the league next season, Liverpool were lucky to win it this year etc etc.
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It's annoying when that happens isn't it. I remember the days that "Liverpool fans" said "every year" that this year was "their year".
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Yes, and one can hope that if something has irritated an individual then they wouldn't be so hypocritical that they'd then do effectively the same thing when they get the chance.
posted on 7/7/20
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posted on 7/7/20
Unfortunately we're passed that point, I think.
posted on 7/7/20
comment by *GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
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comment by rosso is done with this (U17054)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 3 hours, 13 minutes ago
hafi.. i told you... feck off with your shiiiit
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Dunc, I know it’s your article mate, but consider giving the lad a break, will you?
He doesn’t mean any harm. His views are very different to a lot of people’s, but those who want to interact with him can interact with him and those who don’t, won’t.
He isn’t actively trying to wind anyone up or start arguments with malicious intent, which puts him up above a good number of posters across the site.
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You don't think he is actively trying to wind people up? The very reason he posts what he does, is because it winds people up.
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It isn’t, I promise you. He isn’t like that.
He’s got a very unique and different view of the world to most of us and probably just doesn’t understand qualitative arguments in the same way that many other people don’t understand the way his brain works.
I’m not on the wind up here, either. He’s a just very different lad.
posted on 7/7/20
How does anyone who is familiar with him get wound up by Haf?
posted on 7/7/20
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posted on 7/7/20
What are people's opinion on Hafi?
Is he genuine or always on the WUM?
Don't need a detailed answer from people, just a 0 or 1 will suffice.
posted on 7/7/20
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 2 minutes ago
What are people's opinion on Hafi?
Is he genuine or always on the WUM?
Don't need a detailed answer from people, just a 0 or 1 will suffice.
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WUM.
I'd add I find it so boring that I scroll straight past.
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