Premier League squad size is 25.
At the end of this season our squad based on this years squad will be Casilla, Ayling, Cooper, Douglas, Alioski, Dallas, Davis, Forshaw, Poveda, Costa, Hernandez, Phillips, Klich, Shackleton, Stevens, Bamford and Roberts (I haven't included Bera but am now coming round to the idea that he probably will be offered a new short term contract). I would imagine that the likes of Struijk and Gotts will get squad numbers but unless there are a lot of kids in the first team squad, we need to sign a few players just to make the 25. The squad looks very lightweight and nowhere near Premier quality once you look beyond the first 11.
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comment by LeedsFanFor46Years - Prem4harj (U6871)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
Anyone think that Buendia from Norwich would be a good player to have in the squad to supplement Pablo?
One diamond in their rough team.
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Only 4 players in the Premier league have created more chances than him and he's playing for the worst team in it. Would be my first signing as our new playmaker
comment by Afridi14... ( ليدز_يونايتد )You gotta love it!! (U2805)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
Dan James was last year - we signed fekk all....
JKA was a season later - 2020.
Jansson sale was right but given a championship side a quality defender for peanuts- don’t agree mate.
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I don't understand why you are saying that we repeated the mistake of Dan James. I am aware they were different windows of course. But you said we did the same again with JKA, what was the same?
Jansson was sold cheaply because Bielsa wanted rid as soon as possible. So the club made sure that happened.
Bielsa can't get all the credit when a signing is a success and none of the blame when players are forced out cheaply.
I am not saying Orta has been perfect, or brilliant. But criticism has to be fair.
comment by HaveFaithInLeeds (U8688)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Afridi14... ( ليدز_يونايتد )You gotta love it!! (U2805)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
Dan James was last year - we signed fekk all....
JKA was a season later - 2020.
Jansson sale was right but given a championship side a quality defender for peanuts- don’t agree mate.
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I don't understand why you are saying that we repeated the mistake of Dan James. I am aware they were different windows of course. But you said we did the same again with JKA, what was the same?
Jansson was sold cheaply because Bielsa wanted rid as soon as possible. So the club made sure that happened.
Bielsa can't get all the credit when a signing is a success and none of the blame when players are forced out cheaply.
I am not saying Orta has been perfect, or brilliant. But criticism has to be fair.
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Faith
I’m limping the dan james and JKA saga in the same bucket because the result of both has been naff all.... wasted time rather than having a back up plan with James. JKA was a huge gamble given he’s not played and unfit ... both instances we were top of league... why not have a plan in place nov/December knowing full well we need to improve in certain areas.. lucky we haven’t had key long term injuries since otherwise would be in playoffs again.
comment by Afridi14... ( ليدز_يونايتد )You gotta love it!! (U2805)
posted 52 minutes ago
comment by HaveFaithInLeeds (U8688)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Afridi14... ( ليدز_يونايتد )You gotta love it!! (U2805)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
Dan James was last year - we signed fekk all....
JKA was a season later - 2020.
Jansson sale was right but given a championship side a quality defender for peanuts- don’t agree mate.
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I don't understand why you are saying that we repeated the mistake of Dan James. I am aware they were different windows of course. But you said we did the same again with JKA, what was the same?
Jansson was sold cheaply because Bielsa wanted rid as soon as possible. So the club made sure that happened.
Bielsa can't get all the credit when a signing is a success and none of the blame when players are forced out cheaply.
I am not saying Orta has been perfect, or brilliant. But criticism has to be fair.
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Faith
I’m limping the dan james and JKA saga in the same bucket because the result of both has been naff all.... wasted time rather than having a back up plan with James. JKA was a huge gamble given he’s not played and unfit ... both instances we were top of league... why not have a plan in place nov/December knowing full well we need to improve in certain areas.. lucky we haven’t had key long term injuries since otherwise would be in playoffs again.
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Both occasions we did have a plan in place Nov/December.
Plan to sign Dan James should have worked, and the club were very unlucky that it didn't. Having no back up was obviously a mistake though. And while I understand why the club made that mistake, it did potentially cost us promotion and should rightly be judged negatively.
The following January the club clearly learned from this though and did not make the same mistake. The plan in Nov/December was to sign Che Adams, and when this looked very unlikely the club switched targets and went for JKA. The club should not have taken a risk on an unfit player, but this is not making the same mistake as previous. And it was not Orta's second choice either. Orta was against the move as he doesn't believe players from abroad can settle quick enough when signed in January. Bielsa rated JKA though and pushed for his signing ahead of Andre Gray for example. In this situation, and given the success of Bielsa I think the club are right to give him the final say.
The above two transfers are obviously disasters but the not disasters I would judge Orta on too heavily.
I am more concerned about transfers such as Anita, Ideguchi, De Bock etc. And these are the transfers in which sole responsibility does fall on Orta & were massive failures. This has to be judged against transfers such as Roberts, Meslier, White, Klich.
With many others in between such as Bamford & Costa.
Does Orta have an eye for talent or not. I think that is still up for debate definitely, and this summer will probably settle that one way or another.
Faith - agree with 90% of what you have said there.
Point about last year and this year is that effectively the outcome was the same - I.e we’ve not brought anyone in when needed to meet our requirement. Whether that’s Orta, Radz or bielsa not the point.... think it’s shocking that we’ve found ourselves short yet again. Lucky we haven’t needed anyone though but couldn’t know that in Jan Hopeful that they can learn and adapt quickly because the premier league is an unforgiving league gotta get it right in the summer
After reading the interview Victor Orta did with Phil Hay, I changed my mind a lot on him. He made a really good point about how you can sign good players but there are so many things out of your control as to whether it is a good signing. They can get injured, not used by manager, not settle at the club.
Take Saiz and Klich. Saiz looked a good player, key part under Bielsa early on. Ultimately didn't settle and was sold at a loss.
Klich was given one start, made a mistake and then bombed out by Christiansen. Now a key player under Bielsa.
You'd have said 2 summers ago that Klich was the flop and Saiz the good signing.
Barry Douglas - you sign the best left back in the league and he suffers with injuries and no longer first choice. Jamal Blackman - you sign a keeper that is highly rated, breaks his leg before he can make his league debut. Plenty of examples of signings that are 'flops' but for things out of a scout's control.
Lots of it is luck.
comment by Afridi14... ( ليدز_يونايتد )You gotta love it!! (U2805)
posted 23 minutes ago
Faith - agree with 90% of what you have said there.
Point about last year and this year is that effectively the outcome was the same - I.e we’ve not brought anyone in when needed to meet our requirement. Whether that’s Orta, Radz or bielsa not the point.... think it’s shocking that we’ve found ourselves short yet again. Lucky we haven’t needed anyone though but couldn’t know that in JanHopeful that they can learn and adapt quickly because the premier league is an unforgiving league gotta get it right in the summer
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Yeah it's clear that there have been massive flaws in our transfer policy, and they are there for everyone to see.
We will not be able to get away with that in the summer.
But there has also been obvious successes, most notably in that we are going up!
I do accept that there can be reasonable excuses for a fair few of the glaring errors also. Such as the rush to sign too many new players in first transfer window. Obvious excuse with James. And kinda get the mistake with JKA but I do think they should have realised he was too risky at the medical at least.
Just because there could be reasonable excuses, doesn't mean the excuses were the cause of the mistakes though. The mistakes might have happened regardless and be due to incompetence. If Orta pulls off a successful summer then I will forgive the mistake and accept the excuses. If he doesn't then I will view the previous errors as incompetence also.
I do agree with Best though, and also read the interview. So much is luck. Howard Wilkinson said that an exceptional success rate for transfers was 50%. So an average must be more like 30%.
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It's easy to forget Orta/Club did line up Dan James
and Che Adams. Top targets. Ultimately, we didn't land either. But, imagine if we had both this run in, I reckon we would've been crowned champions a month ago.
comment by HaveFaithInLeeds (U8688)
posted 6 hours, 12 minutes ago
Looking at additional revenue of over £100m at least.
All wages will be increased upon promotion I am sure. As well as a decent amount of bonuses paid upon promotion.
Can't see JKA joining now, but wouldn't be surprised if it costs us money not to sign him.
Costa, Meslier & Harrison will all be permanent shortly. Total cost of roughly £28m.
It is difficult to work out what that leaves for further transfers though because it is incredibly rare that the full transfer fee is paid upfront.
I would like to see us sign a Striker, Left Back, Centre Back, a number 10 & a Keeper. I would not sign anymore.
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Agree with that but i reckon we need a defensive mid for cover and competition to Phillips.
I dont consider Forshaw good enough as a back up to Phillips due to ability and being made of glass.
comment by LeedsFanFor46Years - Prem4harj (U6871)
posted 5 hours, 24 minutes ago
Anyone think that Buendia from Norwich would be a good player to have in the squad to supplement Pablo?
One diamond in their rough team.
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A massive YES. i rate him alot. Be ideal as an alternative fir Hernandez
comment by Batty - Prem4harj (U4664)
posted 4 hours, 22 minutes ago
I would like to see us sign a Striker, Left Back, Centre Back, a number 10 & a Keeper. I would not sign anymore.
^^^^
Agree with Faith here. But as someone else already said, we could achieve that through loans.
46, I like the thought of Buendia. I read that the club had already talked to Norwich and that if we got promoted and they got relegated, he'd move to us. Can't remember where I read that. It might've been YEP?
I'd definitely sign Harrison and Meslier.
Then hope Brighton would be open to Ben White sale.
A lot to do. And as Kebab always points out, Players/contracts to get rid of also.
I said a couple weeks back I felt we needed 8 new players. Others on here have changed my mind.
It's good for ja banter to discuss. But honestly, after the last few weeks I'm just excited we may well go up. Which means possible new Adidas kit deal, maybe the PSG lot joining the fray etc. Mainly excited for the chance at
getting to the Prem and seeing what MB and club do next.
I actually trust Radz and MB. Orta somewhat.
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Agree with all that Batty
comment by Afridi14... ( ليدز_يونايتد )You gotta love it!! (U2805)
posted 6 hours, 54 minutes ago
comment by Kebablegs (U17699)
posted 9 minutes ago
Already been documented that we have loads of money leaving the club if promoted. Won’t be a lot for signings imo.
Bonuses 23m
Costa 16m
Harrison 8m
Potential JKA 17m
That’s without buying Meslier and White
We need minimum new gk X2 cb and striker. Would be nice if the scouts could find some really cheap players who could upgrade the bench
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Source for that kebab?
Thought JKA gone back as contractually was only until end of June?
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23M due out in bonuses is in the clubs financial accounts. Its been mentioned on here several times by Jonty and myself.
Costa regardless of when the money goes out - its spent. £16m to account for. Harrison i think 8M was the agreed loan to buy fee?
JKA we have no idea yet whether we can wriggle out of this one. RBL appear to have suggested the deal was done. Yes, hes gone back - possibly so we can save on wages prior as he isnt fit enough to contribute in any way but it looks like a legal battle could be on the cards.
Batty makes another good point - we still have some negotiations on other players.
Ouasim Bouy still another year on his contract
Jay Roy Grot - 1 more year
Rafa Mujica - 2 more years
Conor Shaughnessy - 1 more year
Laurens De Bock - 2 more years
Guillermo Amor - 1 more year.
If they choose to get shut of these players then will be paying another few million off to cancel the contracts
Damn. Ignore my last post on your thread Kebab.
You answered my question here. Cheers
comment by Batty - Prem4harj (U4664)
posted 31 minutes ago
Damn. Ignore my last post on your thread Kebab.
You answered my question here. Cheers
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too late
Been a good thread this. Enjoyed reading the various points made. Still a bit to do but if we can get promoted...
I have been critical of Orta at times. I think he has made some bad calls over three years but he has made a few absolute gems too re Bielsa, Ben White, and some in between like Bamford and Alioski. Overall I would say he is at the heart of our set up and must have a good working relationship with Bielsa which is vital.
Any organisation though needs to review how it can improve and I would say that if we get promoted it is really through fantastic coaching , teamwork and work ethic rather than through good recruitment and they will have to up their game in that department in a very unforgiving premiership. Look at the stuff that has worked and what hasn't, learn from it.
Everything at that level is more intense in terms of the pace and athleticism if the opposition One thing I would say a small tight knit squad of two senior centre backs, one fit out and out centre forward is way too limited for the premiership and we have to have more cover and options available.
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"According to YEP we are linked with:
Lucas Martinez Quarta
Branimir Kalaica
Joe Gelhardt"
According to LeedsLive, we're linked with anything that moves!.
Not surprised gelhardt is getting linked.
Considering he looks a decent prospect at a club in administration he will be linked with everyman and his dog
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comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 18 hours, 2 minutes ago
With our club it's vital we get a lot more right than wrong. You can gamble on youth but can't gamble on the first team squad. You have to do your homework on character, injury record and such things .
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whilst I totally agree with what your saying. I don't get why you are putting our club aside from others, surely its the same for every club to get these things right.
you could pick out many examples of other clubs signings, some for big big money that havn't panned out.
take the blinkers off !!
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posted on 13/7/20
Premier League squad size is 25.
At the end of this season our squad based on this years squad will be Casilla, Ayling, Cooper, Douglas, Alioski, Dallas, Davis, Forshaw, Poveda, Costa, Hernandez, Phillips, Klich, Shackleton, Stevens, Bamford and Roberts (I haven't included Bera but am now coming round to the idea that he probably will be offered a new short term contract). I would imagine that the likes of Struijk and Gotts will get squad numbers but unless there are a lot of kids in the first team squad, we need to sign a few players just to make the 25. The squad looks very lightweight and nowhere near Premier quality once you look beyond the first 11.
posted on 13/7/20
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posted on 13/7/20
comment by LeedsFanFor46Years - Prem4harj (U6871)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
Anyone think that Buendia from Norwich would be a good player to have in the squad to supplement Pablo?
One diamond in their rough team.
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Only 4 players in the Premier league have created more chances than him and he's playing for the worst team in it. Would be my first signing as our new playmaker
posted on 13/7/20
comment by Afridi14... ( ليدز_يونايتد )You gotta love it!! (U2805)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
Dan James was last year - we signed fekk all....
JKA was a season later - 2020.
Jansson sale was right but given a championship side a quality defender for peanuts- don’t agree mate.
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I don't understand why you are saying that we repeated the mistake of Dan James. I am aware they were different windows of course. But you said we did the same again with JKA, what was the same?
Jansson was sold cheaply because Bielsa wanted rid as soon as possible. So the club made sure that happened.
Bielsa can't get all the credit when a signing is a success and none of the blame when players are forced out cheaply.
I am not saying Orta has been perfect, or brilliant. But criticism has to be fair.
posted on 13/7/20
comment by HaveFaithInLeeds (U8688)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Afridi14... ( ليدز_يونايتد )You gotta love it!! (U2805)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
Dan James was last year - we signed fekk all....
JKA was a season later - 2020.
Jansson sale was right but given a championship side a quality defender for peanuts- don’t agree mate.
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I don't understand why you are saying that we repeated the mistake of Dan James. I am aware they were different windows of course. But you said we did the same again with JKA, what was the same?
Jansson was sold cheaply because Bielsa wanted rid as soon as possible. So the club made sure that happened.
Bielsa can't get all the credit when a signing is a success and none of the blame when players are forced out cheaply.
I am not saying Orta has been perfect, or brilliant. But criticism has to be fair.
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Faith
I’m limping the dan james and JKA saga in the same bucket because the result of both has been naff all.... wasted time rather than having a back up plan with James. JKA was a huge gamble given he’s not played and unfit ... both instances we were top of league... why not have a plan in place nov/December knowing full well we need to improve in certain areas.. lucky we haven’t had key long term injuries since otherwise would be in playoffs again.
posted on 13/7/20
Lumping
posted on 13/7/20
comment by Afridi14... ( ليدز_يونايتد )You gotta love it!! (U2805)
posted 52 minutes ago
comment by HaveFaithInLeeds (U8688)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Afridi14... ( ليدز_يونايتد )You gotta love it!! (U2805)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
Dan James was last year - we signed fekk all....
JKA was a season later - 2020.
Jansson sale was right but given a championship side a quality defender for peanuts- don’t agree mate.
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I don't understand why you are saying that we repeated the mistake of Dan James. I am aware they were different windows of course. But you said we did the same again with JKA, what was the same?
Jansson was sold cheaply because Bielsa wanted rid as soon as possible. So the club made sure that happened.
Bielsa can't get all the credit when a signing is a success and none of the blame when players are forced out cheaply.
I am not saying Orta has been perfect, or brilliant. But criticism has to be fair.
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Faith
I’m limping the dan james and JKA saga in the same bucket because the result of both has been naff all.... wasted time rather than having a back up plan with James. JKA was a huge gamble given he’s not played and unfit ... both instances we were top of league... why not have a plan in place nov/December knowing full well we need to improve in certain areas.. lucky we haven’t had key long term injuries since otherwise would be in playoffs again.
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Both occasions we did have a plan in place Nov/December.
Plan to sign Dan James should have worked, and the club were very unlucky that it didn't. Having no back up was obviously a mistake though. And while I understand why the club made that mistake, it did potentially cost us promotion and should rightly be judged negatively.
The following January the club clearly learned from this though and did not make the same mistake. The plan in Nov/December was to sign Che Adams, and when this looked very unlikely the club switched targets and went for JKA. The club should not have taken a risk on an unfit player, but this is not making the same mistake as previous. And it was not Orta's second choice either. Orta was against the move as he doesn't believe players from abroad can settle quick enough when signed in January. Bielsa rated JKA though and pushed for his signing ahead of Andre Gray for example. In this situation, and given the success of Bielsa I think the club are right to give him the final say.
The above two transfers are obviously disasters but the not disasters I would judge Orta on too heavily.
I am more concerned about transfers such as Anita, Ideguchi, De Bock etc. And these are the transfers in which sole responsibility does fall on Orta & were massive failures. This has to be judged against transfers such as Roberts, Meslier, White, Klich.
With many others in between such as Bamford & Costa.
Does Orta have an eye for talent or not. I think that is still up for debate definitely, and this summer will probably settle that one way or another.
posted on 13/7/20
Faith - agree with 90% of what you have said there.
Point about last year and this year is that effectively the outcome was the same - I.e we’ve not brought anyone in when needed to meet our requirement. Whether that’s Orta, Radz or bielsa not the point.... think it’s shocking that we’ve found ourselves short yet again. Lucky we haven’t needed anyone though but couldn’t know that in Jan Hopeful that they can learn and adapt quickly because the premier league is an unforgiving league gotta get it right in the summer
posted on 13/7/20
After reading the interview Victor Orta did with Phil Hay, I changed my mind a lot on him. He made a really good point about how you can sign good players but there are so many things out of your control as to whether it is a good signing. They can get injured, not used by manager, not settle at the club.
Take Saiz and Klich. Saiz looked a good player, key part under Bielsa early on. Ultimately didn't settle and was sold at a loss.
Klich was given one start, made a mistake and then bombed out by Christiansen. Now a key player under Bielsa.
You'd have said 2 summers ago that Klich was the flop and Saiz the good signing.
Barry Douglas - you sign the best left back in the league and he suffers with injuries and no longer first choice. Jamal Blackman - you sign a keeper that is highly rated, breaks his leg before he can make his league debut. Plenty of examples of signings that are 'flops' but for things out of a scout's control.
Lots of it is luck.
posted on 13/7/20
comment by Afridi14... ( ليدز_يونايتد )You gotta love it!! (U2805)
posted 23 minutes ago
Faith - agree with 90% of what you have said there.
Point about last year and this year is that effectively the outcome was the same - I.e we’ve not brought anyone in when needed to meet our requirement. Whether that’s Orta, Radz or bielsa not the point.... think it’s shocking that we’ve found ourselves short yet again. Lucky we haven’t needed anyone though but couldn’t know that in JanHopeful that they can learn and adapt quickly because the premier league is an unforgiving league gotta get it right in the summer
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Yeah it's clear that there have been massive flaws in our transfer policy, and they are there for everyone to see.
We will not be able to get away with that in the summer.
But there has also been obvious successes, most notably in that we are going up!
I do accept that there can be reasonable excuses for a fair few of the glaring errors also. Such as the rush to sign too many new players in first transfer window. Obvious excuse with James. And kinda get the mistake with JKA but I do think they should have realised he was too risky at the medical at least.
Just because there could be reasonable excuses, doesn't mean the excuses were the cause of the mistakes though. The mistakes might have happened regardless and be due to incompetence. If Orta pulls off a successful summer then I will forgive the mistake and accept the excuses. If he doesn't then I will view the previous errors as incompetence also.
I do agree with Best though, and also read the interview. So much is luck. Howard Wilkinson said that an exceptional success rate for transfers was 50%. So an average must be more like 30%.
posted on 13/7/20
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posted on 13/7/20
It's easy to forget Orta/Club did line up Dan James
and Che Adams. Top targets. Ultimately, we didn't land either. But, imagine if we had both this run in, I reckon we would've been crowned champions a month ago.
posted on 13/7/20
comment by HaveFaithInLeeds (U8688)
posted 6 hours, 12 minutes ago
Looking at additional revenue of over £100m at least.
All wages will be increased upon promotion I am sure. As well as a decent amount of bonuses paid upon promotion.
Can't see JKA joining now, but wouldn't be surprised if it costs us money not to sign him.
Costa, Meslier & Harrison will all be permanent shortly. Total cost of roughly £28m.
It is difficult to work out what that leaves for further transfers though because it is incredibly rare that the full transfer fee is paid upfront.
I would like to see us sign a Striker, Left Back, Centre Back, a number 10 & a Keeper. I would not sign anymore.
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Agree with that but i reckon we need a defensive mid for cover and competition to Phillips.
I dont consider Forshaw good enough as a back up to Phillips due to ability and being made of glass.
posted on 13/7/20
comment by LeedsFanFor46Years - Prem4harj (U6871)
posted 5 hours, 24 minutes ago
Anyone think that Buendia from Norwich would be a good player to have in the squad to supplement Pablo?
One diamond in their rough team.
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A massive YES. i rate him alot. Be ideal as an alternative fir Hernandez
posted on 13/7/20
comment by Batty - Prem4harj (U4664)
posted 4 hours, 22 minutes ago
I would like to see us sign a Striker, Left Back, Centre Back, a number 10 & a Keeper. I would not sign anymore.
^^^^
Agree with Faith here. But as someone else already said, we could achieve that through loans.
46, I like the thought of Buendia. I read that the club had already talked to Norwich and that if we got promoted and they got relegated, he'd move to us. Can't remember where I read that. It might've been YEP?
I'd definitely sign Harrison and Meslier.
Then hope Brighton would be open to Ben White sale.
A lot to do. And as Kebab always points out, Players/contracts to get rid of also.
I said a couple weeks back I felt we needed 8 new players. Others on here have changed my mind.
It's good for ja banter to discuss. But honestly, after the last few weeks I'm just excited we may well go up. Which means possible new Adidas kit deal, maybe the PSG lot joining the fray etc. Mainly excited for the chance at
getting to the Prem and seeing what MB and club do next.
I actually trust Radz and MB. Orta somewhat.
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Agree with all that Batty
posted on 13/7/20
comment by Afridi14... ( ليدز_يونايتد )You gotta love it!! (U2805)
posted 6 hours, 54 minutes ago
comment by Kebablegs (U17699)
posted 9 minutes ago
Already been documented that we have loads of money leaving the club if promoted. Won’t be a lot for signings imo.
Bonuses 23m
Costa 16m
Harrison 8m
Potential JKA 17m
That’s without buying Meslier and White
We need minimum new gk X2 cb and striker. Would be nice if the scouts could find some really cheap players who could upgrade the bench
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Source for that kebab?
Thought JKA gone back as contractually was only until end of June?
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23M due out in bonuses is in the clubs financial accounts. Its been mentioned on here several times by Jonty and myself.
Costa regardless of when the money goes out - its spent. £16m to account for. Harrison i think 8M was the agreed loan to buy fee?
JKA we have no idea yet whether we can wriggle out of this one. RBL appear to have suggested the deal was done. Yes, hes gone back - possibly so we can save on wages prior as he isnt fit enough to contribute in any way but it looks like a legal battle could be on the cards.
Batty makes another good point - we still have some negotiations on other players.
Ouasim Bouy still another year on his contract
Jay Roy Grot - 1 more year
Rafa Mujica - 2 more years
Conor Shaughnessy - 1 more year
Laurens De Bock - 2 more years
Guillermo Amor - 1 more year.
If they choose to get shut of these players then will be paying another few million off to cancel the contracts
posted on 13/7/20
Damn. Ignore my last post on your thread Kebab.
You answered my question here. Cheers
posted on 13/7/20
comment by Batty - Prem4harj (U4664)
posted 31 minutes ago
Damn. Ignore my last post on your thread Kebab.
You answered my question here. Cheers
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too late
posted on 13/7/20
I appreciate you posting
posted on 13/7/20
Been a good thread this. Enjoyed reading the various points made. Still a bit to do but if we can get promoted...
I have been critical of Orta at times. I think he has made some bad calls over three years but he has made a few absolute gems too re Bielsa, Ben White, and some in between like Bamford and Alioski. Overall I would say he is at the heart of our set up and must have a good working relationship with Bielsa which is vital.
Any organisation though needs to review how it can improve and I would say that if we get promoted it is really through fantastic coaching , teamwork and work ethic rather than through good recruitment and they will have to up their game in that department in a very unforgiving premiership. Look at the stuff that has worked and what hasn't, learn from it.
Everything at that level is more intense in terms of the pace and athleticism if the opposition One thing I would say a small tight knit squad of two senior centre backs, one fit out and out centre forward is way too limited for the premiership and we have to have more cover and options available.
posted on 13/7/20
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posted on 14/7/20
"According to YEP we are linked with:
Lucas Martinez Quarta
Branimir Kalaica
Joe Gelhardt"
According to LeedsLive, we're linked with anything that moves!.
posted on 14/7/20
Not surprised gelhardt is getting linked.
Considering he looks a decent prospect at a club in administration he will be linked with everyman and his dog
posted on 14/7/20
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posted on 14/7/20
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 18 hours, 2 minutes ago
With our club it's vital we get a lot more right than wrong. You can gamble on youth but can't gamble on the first team squad. You have to do your homework on character, injury record and such things .
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whilst I totally agree with what your saying. I don't get why you are putting our club aside from others, surely its the same for every club to get these things right.
you could pick out many examples of other clubs signings, some for big big money that havn't panned out.
take the blinkers off !!
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