comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 2 minutes ago
Is there any reason why people feel that any full back must be considered as world class?
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In modern football they are key positions. The best teams tend to have the most expansive and dynamic full-backs. I think they’re very VERY important these days, to have good footballers at full-back.
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I agree and it's why many of the best full backs of the last several years can also play in midfield. Lahm, Alaba, Kimmich, TAA(although he hasn't played there much in the senior team).
TOOR, Alves wasn’t on the scene then.
Cafu is a given, Zanetti is debatable and Thuram is in the conversation.
But this is what I mean about breaking it into positions.
That puts Neville as one of the best five and maybe the best three right backs in the world. But would anyone have him as world class?
I just don’t think it works, personally.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 23 minutes ago
TOOR, Alves wasn’t on the scene then.
Cafu is a given, Zanetti is debatable and Thuram is in the conversation.
But this is what I mean about breaking it into positions.
That puts Neville as one of the best five and maybe the best three right backs in the world. But would anyone have him as world class?
I just don’t think it works, personally.
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I suppose Alves was in his prime when Neville was in his final few years. I forgot about Thuram.
But I don't think Neville was top five.
Even if we take out Alves and include the three above I would still put others above Neville. Puyol for example. Lahm another. Zambrotta another. That's just off the top of my head.
No offence but I think you’re just picking exotic names... how much did you actually watch Zambrotta?!
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but Neville not in the top five right backs? Not having that. He was top quality.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
No offence but I think you’re just picking exotic names... how much did you actually watch Zambrotta?!
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but Neville not in the top five right backs? Not having that. He was top quality.
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Often enough to have an opinion of him. He was outstanding for Juventus and Italy.
If you watched him that much you’d realise he spent a lot of his time on the other side of the pitch at club level and further up the pitch at International level.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
No offence but I think you’re just picking exotic names... how much did you actually watch Zambrotta?!
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but Neville not in the top five right backs? Not having that. He was top quality.
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Often enough to have an opinion of him. He was outstanding for Juventus and Italy.
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He wasn't bad for Juve but he was not great when he came to Barça. I think full backs are often players who work well in certain teams because of tactics. Often it is the tactics that make them loom good - I remember Conte with Alonso and Moses - Real Madrid wanted to pay a fortune for Alonso. As soon as Conte left, both players looked terrible.
Neville was the perfect full back / captain for United but I'm not sure he would have been so effective anywhere else.
comment by Xiuxiuejar (U6109)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
No offence but I think you’re just picking exotic names... how much did you actually watch Zambrotta?!
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but Neville not in the top five right backs? Not having that. He was top quality.
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Often enough to have an opinion of him. He was outstanding for Juventus and Italy.
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He wasn't bad for Juve but he was not great when he came to Barça. I think full backs are often players who work well in certain teams because of tactics. Often it is the tactics that make them loom good - I remember Conte with Alonso and Moses - Real Madrid wanted to pay a fortune for Alonso. As soon as Conte left, both players looked terrible.
Neville was the perfect full back / captain for United but I'm not sure he would have been so effective anywhere else.
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Yeah he didn't have a great time for Barca but then he was very good for Milan when he went back to Italy.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
If you watched him that much you’d realise he spent a lot of his time on the other side of the pitch at club level and further up the pitch at International level.
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Yes he was excellent on both sides. I'm not sure I would class that as a negative. The guy played in several tournaments for his country too, got voted into team of the World Cup a couple of times also if I remember correctly.
I think the point about Trent having to deliver at international level is a fair one. I'm excited to see Kane getting on the end of a few of those crosses at the internationals, seems a match made in heaven. As we have seen with England in the past though, it's rarely that simple in reality.
Robertson is a pointless one as Scotland won't ever qualify for a tournament.
comment by Neo- PL CHAMPIONS (U9135)
posted 27 seconds ago
I think the point about Trent having to deliver at international level is a fair one. I'm excited to see Kane getting on the end of a few of those crosses at the internationals, seems a match made in heaven. As we have seen with England in the past though, it's rarely that simple in reality.
Robertson is a pointless one as Scotland won't ever qualify for a tournament.
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I don't even think it is that. They are young players and have had a really good season. I don't want to say they won't be world class but I think it's too early to put that label on them. The truly world class genius at Liverpool is Klopp. The man has a system of play and uses/buys/converts players with the right attributes - usually pace - into really good players. But how many of his players were any good once they left Dortmund? Look at Dembele for us, awful. I would not underestimate Klopp. He has made some good pros like Henderson look like really good players by using their strengths in his system. That's great management:
In 3 or 4 years time, we will be able to comment on whether these Liverpool players are truly world class.
comment by Xiuxiuejar (U6109)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Neo- PL CHAMPIONS (U9135)
posted 27 seconds ago
I think the point about Trent having to deliver at international level is a fair one. I'm excited to see Kane getting on the end of a few of those crosses at the internationals, seems a match made in heaven. As we have seen with England in the past though, it's rarely that simple in reality.
Robertson is a pointless one as Scotland won't ever qualify for a tournament.
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I don't even think it is that. They are young players and have had a really good season. I don't want to say they won't be world class but I think it's too early to put that label on them. The truly world class genius at Liverpool is Klopp. The man has a system of play and uses/buys/converts players with the right attributes - usually pace - into really good players. But how many of his players were any good once they left Dortmund? Look at Dembele for us, awful. I would not underestimate Klopp. He has made some good pros like Henderson look like really good players by using their strengths in his system. That's great management:
In 3 or 4 years time, we will be able to comment on whether these Liverpool players are truly world class.
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Dembele never played under Klopp.
But to answer your question:-
Lewandowski
Hummels
Gundogan
Reus you can't include really as he hasn't left Dortmund but he continued to get better after Klopp.
Aubameyang
Of course they had some players who were in their prime with Klopp at Dortmund and regressed like Piszszec(sp?) and others who were solid players who fitted the system and weren't top class like Blaszszykowski(sp?), Kagawa and Goetze who was excellent but injuries seemed to stunt his development.
I'm not sure any of Liverpool's players would fit your criteria, perhaps excluding VVD anyhow as you must have an incredibly high bar not including Ronaldinho, Suarez and Ibrahimovic.
I see that Gary Neville has been mentioned in regards to TAA being world class and how Neville who was also seen as playing well in a successful team maybe wasn't quite world class himself. I can think of a few good reasons for this. TAA literally has some of the best delivery I've seen since Beckham. He seems to have a bigger influence on his successful team than Neville ever did with United. I'm talking about goals (he's already scored as many as Neville did), and assists (he has like 26 in the last couple of seasons, whereas Neville's highest in a season was 4). He is also good with free kicks.
Neville was very good but probably never world class level, either in a defensive capacity or going forward.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 9 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
If you watched him that much you’d realise he spent a lot of his time on the other side of the pitch at club level and further up the pitch at International level.
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Yes he was excellent on both sides. I'm not sure I would class that as a negative. The guy played in several tournaments for his country too, got voted into team of the World Cup a couple of times also if I remember correctly.
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Didn’t say it was a negative, I’m saying he barely ever played right back at a time when you’re claiming he’s one of the best right backs in the world!
comment by Xiuxiuejar (U6109)
posted 8 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by Neo- PL CHAMPIONS (U9135)
posted 27 seconds ago
I think the point about Trent having to deliver at international level is a fair one. I'm excited to see Kane getting on the end of a few of those crosses at the internationals, seems a match made in heaven. As we have seen with England in the past though, it's rarely that simple in reality.
Robertson is a pointless one as Scotland won't ever qualify for a tournament.
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I don't even think it is that. They are young players and have had a really good season. I don't want to say they won't be world class but I think it's too early to put that label on them. The truly world class genius at Liverpool is Klopp. The man has a system of play and uses/buys/converts players with the right attributes - usually pace - into really good players. But how many of his players were any good once they left Dortmund? Look at Dembele for us, awful. I would not underestimate Klopp. He has made some good pros like Henderson look like really good players by using their strengths in his system. That's great management:
In 3 or 4 years time, we will be able to comment on whether these Liverpool players are truly world class.
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Completely agree with this.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 8 hours, 36 minutes ago
I see that Gary Neville has been mentioned in regards to TAA being world class and how Neville who was also seen as playing well in a successful team maybe wasn't quite world class himself. I can think of a few good reasons for this. TAA literally has some of the best delivery I've seen since Beckham. He seems to have a bigger influence on his successful team than Neville ever did with United. I'm talking about goals (he's already scored as many as Neville did), and assists (he has like 26 in the last couple of seasons, whereas Neville's highest in a season was 4). He is also good with free kicks.
Neville was very good but probably never world class level, either in a defensive capacity or going forward.
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I raised Neville to demonstrate why I think breaking it down by position is flawed, not as a comparison to TAA.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 9 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
If you watched him that much you’d realise he spent a lot of his time on the other side of the pitch at club level and further up the pitch at International level.
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Yes he was excellent on both sides. I'm not sure I would class that as a negative. The guy played in several tournaments for his country too, got voted into team of the World Cup a couple of times also if I remember correctly.
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Didn’t say it was a negative, I’m saying he barely ever played right back at a time when you’re claiming he’s one of the best right backs in the world!
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Which of course is incorrect as he was a natural right back who played left back also. The only team he played more at left back was AC Milan which was later in his career.
Naturally right sided*
I remember watching him play right midfield and sometimes left midfield when he first joined Juventus.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 9 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
If you watched him that much you’d realise he spent a lot of his time on the other side of the pitch at club level and further up the pitch at International level.
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Yes he was excellent on both sides. I'm not sure I would class that as a negative. The guy played in several tournaments for his country too, got voted into team of the World Cup a couple of times also if I remember correctly.
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Didn’t say it was a negative, I’m saying he barely ever played right back at a time when you’re claiming he’s one of the best right backs in the world!
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Which of course is incorrect as he was a natural right back who played left back also. The only team he played more at left back was AC Milan which was later in his career.
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Hmm. That’s not what I remember at all.
Thuram was right back and he played on the left under Lippi.
May be remembering it wrong of course.
Puyol didn't really play right back that much, did he? I think Ramos might have played that position more than him.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 9 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
If you watched him that much you’d realise he spent a lot of his time on the other side of the pitch at club level and further up the pitch at International level.
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Yes he was excellent on both sides. I'm not sure I would class that as a negative. The guy played in several tournaments for his country too, got voted into team of the World Cup a couple of times also if I remember correctly.
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Didn’t say it was a negative, I’m saying he barely ever played right back at a time when you’re claiming he’s one of the best right backs in the world!
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Which of course is incorrect as he was a natural right back who played left back also. The only team he played more at left back was AC Milan which was later in his career.
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Hmm. That’s not what I remember at all.
Thuram was right back and he played on the left under Lippi.
May be remembering it wrong of course.
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Yes Thuram was the main right back when he joined and Zambrotta was switched to left back but often played right back, when Thuram was out or moved into the middle, which i seem to remember happening in the last couple of years Thuram spent at Juventus.
I may be wrong but having looked at his incomplete position stats, he appears to have played more on the right, than left.
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 38 minutes ago
Puyol didn't really play right back that much, did he? I think Ramos might have played that position more than him.
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Not sure how often he played right back but when I first began watching him, and I didn't watch him often, he was known as a right back and an excellent one.
Having looked at his stats it appears he played around the equivalent of three seasons at right back for Barca.
Don't doubt what you say TOOR but would be interested what web sites you can obtain that sort of information?
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posted on 20/7/20
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 2 minutes ago
Is there any reason why people feel that any full back must be considered as world class?
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In modern football they are key positions. The best teams tend to have the most expansive and dynamic full-backs. I think they’re very VERY important these days, to have good footballers at full-back.
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I agree and it's why many of the best full backs of the last several years can also play in midfield. Lahm, Alaba, Kimmich, TAA(although he hasn't played there much in the senior team).
posted on 20/7/20
TOOR, Alves wasn’t on the scene then.
Cafu is a given, Zanetti is debatable and Thuram is in the conversation.
But this is what I mean about breaking it into positions.
That puts Neville as one of the best five and maybe the best three right backs in the world. But would anyone have him as world class?
I just don’t think it works, personally.
posted on 20/7/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 23 minutes ago
TOOR, Alves wasn’t on the scene then.
Cafu is a given, Zanetti is debatable and Thuram is in the conversation.
But this is what I mean about breaking it into positions.
That puts Neville as one of the best five and maybe the best three right backs in the world. But would anyone have him as world class?
I just don’t think it works, personally.
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I suppose Alves was in his prime when Neville was in his final few years. I forgot about Thuram.
But I don't think Neville was top five.
Even if we take out Alves and include the three above I would still put others above Neville. Puyol for example. Lahm another. Zambrotta another. That's just off the top of my head.
posted on 20/7/20
No offence but I think you’re just picking exotic names... how much did you actually watch Zambrotta?!
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but Neville not in the top five right backs? Not having that. He was top quality.
posted on 20/7/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
No offence but I think you’re just picking exotic names... how much did you actually watch Zambrotta?!
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but Neville not in the top five right backs? Not having that. He was top quality.
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Often enough to have an opinion of him. He was outstanding for Juventus and Italy.
posted on 20/7/20
If you watched him that much you’d realise he spent a lot of his time on the other side of the pitch at club level and further up the pitch at International level.
posted on 20/7/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
No offence but I think you’re just picking exotic names... how much did you actually watch Zambrotta?!
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but Neville not in the top five right backs? Not having that. He was top quality.
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Often enough to have an opinion of him. He was outstanding for Juventus and Italy.
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He wasn't bad for Juve but he was not great when he came to Barça. I think full backs are often players who work well in certain teams because of tactics. Often it is the tactics that make them loom good - I remember Conte with Alonso and Moses - Real Madrid wanted to pay a fortune for Alonso. As soon as Conte left, both players looked terrible.
Neville was the perfect full back / captain for United but I'm not sure he would have been so effective anywhere else.
posted on 20/7/20
comment by Xiuxiuejar (U6109)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
No offence but I think you’re just picking exotic names... how much did you actually watch Zambrotta?!
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but Neville not in the top five right backs? Not having that. He was top quality.
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Often enough to have an opinion of him. He was outstanding for Juventus and Italy.
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He wasn't bad for Juve but he was not great when he came to Barça. I think full backs are often players who work well in certain teams because of tactics. Often it is the tactics that make them loom good - I remember Conte with Alonso and Moses - Real Madrid wanted to pay a fortune for Alonso. As soon as Conte left, both players looked terrible.
Neville was the perfect full back / captain for United but I'm not sure he would have been so effective anywhere else.
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Yeah he didn't have a great time for Barca but then he was very good for Milan when he went back to Italy.
posted on 20/7/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
If you watched him that much you’d realise he spent a lot of his time on the other side of the pitch at club level and further up the pitch at International level.
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Yes he was excellent on both sides. I'm not sure I would class that as a negative. The guy played in several tournaments for his country too, got voted into team of the World Cup a couple of times also if I remember correctly.
posted on 20/7/20
I think the point about Trent having to deliver at international level is a fair one. I'm excited to see Kane getting on the end of a few of those crosses at the internationals, seems a match made in heaven. As we have seen with England in the past though, it's rarely that simple in reality.
Robertson is a pointless one as Scotland won't ever qualify for a tournament.
posted on 20/7/20
at the Euros* rather
posted on 20/7/20
comment by Neo- PL CHAMPIONS (U9135)
posted 27 seconds ago
I think the point about Trent having to deliver at international level is a fair one. I'm excited to see Kane getting on the end of a few of those crosses at the internationals, seems a match made in heaven. As we have seen with England in the past though, it's rarely that simple in reality.
Robertson is a pointless one as Scotland won't ever qualify for a tournament.
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I don't even think it is that. They are young players and have had a really good season. I don't want to say they won't be world class but I think it's too early to put that label on them. The truly world class genius at Liverpool is Klopp. The man has a system of play and uses/buys/converts players with the right attributes - usually pace - into really good players. But how many of his players were any good once they left Dortmund? Look at Dembele for us, awful. I would not underestimate Klopp. He has made some good pros like Henderson look like really good players by using their strengths in his system. That's great management:
In 3 or 4 years time, we will be able to comment on whether these Liverpool players are truly world class.
posted on 20/7/20
comment by Xiuxiuejar (U6109)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Neo- PL CHAMPIONS (U9135)
posted 27 seconds ago
I think the point about Trent having to deliver at international level is a fair one. I'm excited to see Kane getting on the end of a few of those crosses at the internationals, seems a match made in heaven. As we have seen with England in the past though, it's rarely that simple in reality.
Robertson is a pointless one as Scotland won't ever qualify for a tournament.
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I don't even think it is that. They are young players and have had a really good season. I don't want to say they won't be world class but I think it's too early to put that label on them. The truly world class genius at Liverpool is Klopp. The man has a system of play and uses/buys/converts players with the right attributes - usually pace - into really good players. But how many of his players were any good once they left Dortmund? Look at Dembele for us, awful. I would not underestimate Klopp. He has made some good pros like Henderson look like really good players by using their strengths in his system. That's great management:
In 3 or 4 years time, we will be able to comment on whether these Liverpool players are truly world class.
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Dembele never played under Klopp.
But to answer your question:-
Lewandowski
Hummels
Gundogan
Reus you can't include really as he hasn't left Dortmund but he continued to get better after Klopp.
Aubameyang
Of course they had some players who were in their prime with Klopp at Dortmund and regressed like Piszszec(sp?) and others who were solid players who fitted the system and weren't top class like Blaszszykowski(sp?), Kagawa and Goetze who was excellent but injuries seemed to stunt his development.
I'm not sure any of Liverpool's players would fit your criteria, perhaps excluding VVD anyhow as you must have an incredibly high bar not including Ronaldinho, Suarez and Ibrahimovic.
posted on 20/7/20
I see that Gary Neville has been mentioned in regards to TAA being world class and how Neville who was also seen as playing well in a successful team maybe wasn't quite world class himself. I can think of a few good reasons for this. TAA literally has some of the best delivery I've seen since Beckham. He seems to have a bigger influence on his successful team than Neville ever did with United. I'm talking about goals (he's already scored as many as Neville did), and assists (he has like 26 in the last couple of seasons, whereas Neville's highest in a season was 4). He is also good with free kicks.
Neville was very good but probably never world class level, either in a defensive capacity or going forward.
posted on 21/7/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 9 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
If you watched him that much you’d realise he spent a lot of his time on the other side of the pitch at club level and further up the pitch at International level.
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Yes he was excellent on both sides. I'm not sure I would class that as a negative. The guy played in several tournaments for his country too, got voted into team of the World Cup a couple of times also if I remember correctly.
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Didn’t say it was a negative, I’m saying he barely ever played right back at a time when you’re claiming he’s one of the best right backs in the world!
posted on 21/7/20
comment by Xiuxiuejar (U6109)
posted 8 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by Neo- PL CHAMPIONS (U9135)
posted 27 seconds ago
I think the point about Trent having to deliver at international level is a fair one. I'm excited to see Kane getting on the end of a few of those crosses at the internationals, seems a match made in heaven. As we have seen with England in the past though, it's rarely that simple in reality.
Robertson is a pointless one as Scotland won't ever qualify for a tournament.
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I don't even think it is that. They are young players and have had a really good season. I don't want to say they won't be world class but I think it's too early to put that label on them. The truly world class genius at Liverpool is Klopp. The man has a system of play and uses/buys/converts players with the right attributes - usually pace - into really good players. But how many of his players were any good once they left Dortmund? Look at Dembele for us, awful. I would not underestimate Klopp. He has made some good pros like Henderson look like really good players by using their strengths in his system. That's great management:
In 3 or 4 years time, we will be able to comment on whether these Liverpool players are truly world class.
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Completely agree with this.
posted on 21/7/20
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 8 hours, 36 minutes ago
I see that Gary Neville has been mentioned in regards to TAA being world class and how Neville who was also seen as playing well in a successful team maybe wasn't quite world class himself. I can think of a few good reasons for this. TAA literally has some of the best delivery I've seen since Beckham. He seems to have a bigger influence on his successful team than Neville ever did with United. I'm talking about goals (he's already scored as many as Neville did), and assists (he has like 26 in the last couple of seasons, whereas Neville's highest in a season was 4). He is also good with free kicks.
Neville was very good but probably never world class level, either in a defensive capacity or going forward.
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I raised Neville to demonstrate why I think breaking it down by position is flawed, not as a comparison to TAA.
posted on 21/7/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 9 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
If you watched him that much you’d realise he spent a lot of his time on the other side of the pitch at club level and further up the pitch at International level.
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Yes he was excellent on both sides. I'm not sure I would class that as a negative. The guy played in several tournaments for his country too, got voted into team of the World Cup a couple of times also if I remember correctly.
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Didn’t say it was a negative, I’m saying he barely ever played right back at a time when you’re claiming he’s one of the best right backs in the world!
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Which of course is incorrect as he was a natural right back who played left back also. The only team he played more at left back was AC Milan which was later in his career.
posted on 21/7/20
Naturally right sided*
I remember watching him play right midfield and sometimes left midfield when he first joined Juventus.
posted on 21/7/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 9 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
If you watched him that much you’d realise he spent a lot of his time on the other side of the pitch at club level and further up the pitch at International level.
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Yes he was excellent on both sides. I'm not sure I would class that as a negative. The guy played in several tournaments for his country too, got voted into team of the World Cup a couple of times also if I remember correctly.
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Didn’t say it was a negative, I’m saying he barely ever played right back at a time when you’re claiming he’s one of the best right backs in the world!
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Which of course is incorrect as he was a natural right back who played left back also. The only team he played more at left back was AC Milan which was later in his career.
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Hmm. That’s not what I remember at all.
Thuram was right back and he played on the left under Lippi.
May be remembering it wrong of course.
posted on 21/7/20
Puyol didn't really play right back that much, did he? I think Ramos might have played that position more than him.
posted on 21/7/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
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comment by Winston (U16525)
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comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 9 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
If you watched him that much you’d realise he spent a lot of his time on the other side of the pitch at club level and further up the pitch at International level.
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Yes he was excellent on both sides. I'm not sure I would class that as a negative. The guy played in several tournaments for his country too, got voted into team of the World Cup a couple of times also if I remember correctly.
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Didn’t say it was a negative, I’m saying he barely ever played right back at a time when you’re claiming he’s one of the best right backs in the world!
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Which of course is incorrect as he was a natural right back who played left back also. The only team he played more at left back was AC Milan which was later in his career.
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Hmm. That’s not what I remember at all.
Thuram was right back and he played on the left under Lippi.
May be remembering it wrong of course.
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Yes Thuram was the main right back when he joined and Zambrotta was switched to left back but often played right back, when Thuram was out or moved into the middle, which i seem to remember happening in the last couple of years Thuram spent at Juventus.
I may be wrong but having looked at his incomplete position stats, he appears to have played more on the right, than left.
posted on 21/7/20
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 38 minutes ago
Puyol didn't really play right back that much, did he? I think Ramos might have played that position more than him.
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Not sure how often he played right back but when I first began watching him, and I didn't watch him often, he was known as a right back and an excellent one.
posted on 21/7/20
Having looked at his stats it appears he played around the equivalent of three seasons at right back for Barca.
posted on 21/7/20
Don't doubt what you say TOOR but would be interested what web sites you can obtain that sort of information?
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