What about those strikers who’ve scored a lot of tap ins. Are they considered as WC ?
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 23 seconds ago
A striker’s judged by the number of goals he scores not the success of his club
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i'd have thought aguero is possibly the clearest pick in the whole league, even this year, injury disrupted and in a poor title defence, he has by far the best goals to minutes ratio in the league.
a few years ago kane was probably an equally clear choice, not so sure today. but if we accept that world class means top 4ish in your position - ie we're putting together a world squad, and want 4 strikers, 4 CBs etc - then name me 4 better strikers in the world. i can give you lewandowski, mbappe, and neymar, and even some of those are debatable, but i can't get a 4th name. too soon for haaland, too late for suarez, no other names spring to mind.
Pedro is the only world class striker in the EPL cos of what he has won at international and CL level.
One of the definitions of being "world Class" is to be obviously ahead of anyone else in your position, and doing it for a sustained period of time ( not, as we keep seeing, being good for a few games and being labelled world class. )
So, for me, with the term "world Class" being chucked about like confetti these days, there are only two who clearly that fit this, Messi and Ronaldo.
All the above players mentioned are good, but are they head and shoulders above everyone else in their position ?
“One of the definitions of being "world Class" is to be obviously ahead of anyone else in your position“
If that is your definition, then that would be world best rather than world class surely?
Aguero has to be one of the most prolific strikers ever in the PL. He was world class for a long while. Might of gone of the boil a bit these days, but he’s certainly a quality player.
On a par with the Shearers, Henry’s, Van Nistleroys.
comment by The Power Of Now (U20893)
posted 17 minutes ago
What about those strikers who’ve scored a lot of tap ins. Are they considered as WC ?
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If they score a lot of goals doing it, and they do it season after season then yes.
If scoring from lots of tap ins was easy then loads of strikers would be getting 20 league goals or more a season.
comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 23 minutes ago
One of the definitions of being "world Class" is to be obviously ahead of anyone else in your position, and doing it for a sustained period of time ( not, as we keep seeing, being good for a few games and being labelled world class. )
So, for me, with the term "world Class" being chucked about like confetti these days, there are only two who clearly that fit this, Messi and Ronaldo.
All the above players mentioned are good, but are they head and shoulders above everyone else in their position ?
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I would say it's debatable that Messi and Ronaldo belong to that elite 2 that are far better than anyone else, anymore. In terms of this era then yes, but presently no.
Interesting debate. I think the words "world class" are bandied about far too easily these days. A player has a good season or even a couple of good weeks and he's suddenly world class. For me, a world class player is on who could "easily" fit into any and every top team. Ronaldo, Messi - truly world class players.
Virgil Van Dijk is the only defender in the whole of the league who can stake a case imo. There are some other very good players but VVD is on course to be world class although maybe not quite there.
Alisson is the best keeper in the league I think but not sure he's as good as say Cech was at his peak.
Silva was definitely top class and de Bruyne is very very close. Aguero is also the only true world class striker in my view.
We have some really very good players in the league, Salah, Kane (the best English player), Kante - but are they really world class? I'm probably going to get slaughtered for not jumping onto the bandwagon but I just think it's reality.
Personally I choose to define world class as anyone who would get into the ‘world squad’ ie top 2 of any given position.
For example rewind a few years ago with Neuer & De Gea both were world class and it would be unfair to use starting world XI as one of them would miss out when they were clearly both world class.
I think using 2 is good for keeping it truly at world class level rather than top 5 in any given position.
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
Personally I choose to define world class as anyone who would get into the ‘world squad’ ie top 2 of any given position.
For example rewind a few years ago with Neuer & De Gea both were world class and it would be unfair to use starting world XI as one of them would miss out when they were clearly both world class.
I think using 2 is good for keeping it truly at world class level rather than top 5 in any given position.
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What if there are 3 really top players then in the same position?
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
Personally I choose to define world class as anyone who would get into the ‘world squad’ ie top 2 of any given position.
For example rewind a few years ago with Neuer & De Gea both were world class and it would be unfair to use starting world XI as one of them would miss out when they were clearly both world class.
I think using 2 is good for keeping it truly at world class level rather than top 5 in any given position.
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What if there are 3 really top players then in the same position?
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I think he is saying that Paul Scholes wasn't world class.
comment by Eric_Draven (U20260)
posted 13 minutes ago
Interesting debate. I think the words "world class" are bandied about far too easily these days. A player has a good season or even a couple of good weeks and he's suddenly world class. For me, a world class player is on who could "easily" fit into any and every top team. Ronaldo, Messi - truly world class players.
Virgil Van Dijk is the only defender in the whole of the league who can stake a case imo. There are some other very good players but VVD is on course to be world class although maybe not quite there.
Alisson is the best keeper in the league I think but not sure he's as good as say Cech was at his peak.
Silva was definitely top class and de Bruyne is very very close. Aguero is also the only true world class striker in my view.
We have some really very good players in the league, Salah, Kane (the best English player), Kante - but are they really world class? I'm probably going to get slaughtered for not jumping onto the bandwagon but I just think it's reality.
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I think KDB is world class as I really don’t know what else he has to do to show it.
comment by Eric_Draven (U20260)
posted 15 minutes ago
Interesting debate. I think the words "world class" are bandied about far too easily these days. A player has a good season or even a couple of good weeks and he's suddenly world class. For me, a world class player is on who could "easily" fit into any and every top team. Ronaldo, Messi - truly world class players.
Virgil Van Dijk is the only defender in the whole of the league who can stake a case imo. There are some other very good players but VVD is on course to be world class although maybe not quite there.
Alisson is the best keeper in the league I think but not sure he's as good as say Cech was at his peak.
Silva was definitely top class and de Bruyne is very very close. Aguero is also the only true world class striker in my view.
We have some really very good players in the league, Salah, Kane (the best English player), Kante - but are they really world class? I'm probably going to get slaughtered for not jumping onto the bandwagon but I just think it's reality.
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I think Kane just as an example has to be considered world class. Golden Boot on 2 occasions and would have been more but for injury. 20 or more goals per season for the last 6 seasons, again barring the last 2 due to injury.
Quickest player to reach 20 CL goals. Look at the company he beats.
Golden Boot winner at the World Cup and 32 goals in 45 for England. A better strike rate for country than most.
comment by Benjamin Kallman (U1734)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
Personally I choose to define world class as anyone who would get into the ‘world squad’ ie top 2 of any given position.
For example rewind a few years ago with Neuer & De Gea both were world class and it would be unfair to use starting world XI as one of them would miss out when they were clearly both world class.
I think using 2 is good for keeping it truly at world class level rather than top 5 in any given position.
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What if there are 3 really top players then in the same position?
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I think he is saying that Paul Scholes wasn't world class.
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You could take most eras and use that criteria and I'm sure some really top players would miss out.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Eric_Draven (U20260)
posted 15 minutes ago
Interesting debate. I think the words "world class" are bandied about far too easily these days. A player has a good season or even a couple of good weeks and he's suddenly world class. For me, a world class player is on who could "easily" fit into any and every top team. Ronaldo, Messi - truly world class players.
Virgil Van Dijk is the only defender in the whole of the league who can stake a case imo. There are some other very good players but VVD is on course to be world class although maybe not quite there.
Alisson is the best keeper in the league I think but not sure he's as good as say Cech was at his peak.
Silva was definitely top class and de Bruyne is very very close. Aguero is also the only true world class striker in my view.
We have some really very good players in the league, Salah, Kane (the best English player), Kante - but are they really world class? I'm probably going to get slaughtered for not jumping onto the bandwagon but I just think it's reality.
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I think Kane just as an example has to be considered world class. Golden Boot on 2 occasions and would have been more but for injury. 20 or more goals per season for the last 6 seasons, again barring the last 2 due to injury.
Quickest player to reach 20 CL goals. Look at the company he beats.
Golden Boot winner at the World Cup and 32 goals in 45 for England. A better strike rate for country than most.
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20 CL goals by at age 26 doesn't sound that great.
Fair play though he did win the golden penalty so that's something.
comment by Benjamin Kallman (U1734)
posted 2 hours, 5 minutes ago
World class XI in EPL:
---------------De Gea-----------
AWB------VVD------Maguire------Shaw
Martial--------Pogba---------------Bruno
Greenwood--------Kane------------Rashford
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wow lol..... just wow. the ignorance and bias here is plain for all to see.
I don't know what's funnier. the goalie, 3 of the back 4. Martial in midfield or Pogba.
comment by Benjamin Kallman (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Geoff Tipps (U1449)
posted 9 minutes ago
Deary me Lordy be, anyone who doesn’t think Sergio Aguero is a world class striker must be on some seriously hard drugs
Been one of the best strikers in Europe for at least a decade
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european success? europa league 10 years ago with atletico. thats not enough.
International success? ziltch can we count the olympics really? has two runners up medals.
Aguero is class, we all know it but has he been just under the level or just not been lucky. Who knows.
As a forward its tough to compete with Messi and ronaldo for attention.
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Lewandowski has one CL runners up medal and nothing at international level.
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who the F mentioned lewandowski chump?
comment by Benjamin Kallman (U1734)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Eric_Draven (U20260)
posted 15 minutes ago
Interesting debate. I think the words "world class" are bandied about far too easily these days. A player has a good season or even a couple of good weeks and he's suddenly world class. For me, a world class player is on who could "easily" fit into any and every top team. Ronaldo, Messi - truly world class players.
Virgil Van Dijk is the only defender in the whole of the league who can stake a case imo. There are some other very good players but VVD is on course to be world class although maybe not quite there.
Alisson is the best keeper in the league I think but not sure he's as good as say Cech was at his peak.
Silva was definitely top class and de Bruyne is very very close. Aguero is also the only true world class striker in my view.
We have some really very good players in the league, Salah, Kane (the best English player), Kante - but are they really world class? I'm probably going to get slaughtered for not jumping onto the bandwagon but I just think it's reality.
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I think Kane just as an example has to be considered world class. Golden Boot on 2 occasions and would have been more but for injury. 20 or more goals per season for the last 6 seasons, again barring the last 2 due to injury.
Quickest player to reach 20 CL goals. Look at the company he beats.
Golden Boot winner at the World Cup and 32 goals in 45 for England. A better strike rate for country than most.
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20 CL goals by at age 26 doesn't sound that great.
Fair play though he did win the golden penalty so that's something.
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You may have caught some others in your net Barry, but you're not catching me.
World class by position with 2 allowed for each positon:
GK:
De Gea
Henderson
RB:
AWB
TAA
Centre Back:
Maguire
VVD
Left Back:
Shaw
Robertson
DM:
Matic
Kante
CM:
Pogba
Bruno
LW:
Martial
Salah
RW:
Rashford
Greenwood
CF:
Kane
Rashford
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 3 hours, 9 minutes ago
comment by ttliv87 English, European and World Champions (U11882)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by ttliv87 English, European and World Champions (U11882)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 2 minutes ago
If your definition of world class is ‘would start for every team in the world’ then that is probably only KDB surprisingly
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Name one team Van Dijk wouldn't be the best defender at.
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Wouldn’t start for Real Madrid
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Ok thanks for confirming you are reetarded.
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wow
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He loves that word
comment by Benjamin Kallman (U1734)
posted 4 minutes ago
World class by position with 2 allowed for each positon:
GK:
De Gea
Henderson
RB:
AWB
TAA
Centre Back:
Maguire
VVD
Left Back:
Shaw
Robertson
DM:
Matic
Kante
CM:
Pogba
Bruno
LW:
Martial
Salah
RW:
Rashford
Greenwood
CF:
Kane
Rashford
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your wumming seriously needs work lol.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 7 minutes ago
Is this article a wum?🤔
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How so GT?
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Because of the names in the list?
My definition of world class is a bit broad. Anyone who could be considered/argued to be the top 5-6 in their position in the world, or any player who you could picture starting and being a key player for most of the top, elite teams in Europe.
I don’t really like the definition of world class being ‘whoever makes a world XI’ or ‘top 2 in each position’ as you could have three right-backs all performing at the same world class level but apparently only one or two can be world class by these definitions. Maybe I’m being over pedantic and others don’t take it that literally but hey this whole thread has basically turned into the classic debate of the ‘world class’ definition.
World class PL players:
City: Laporte, KDB, Aguero. Sterling, Ederson borderline
Liverpool: Allison, TAA, VVD, Robertson, Salah, Mane
Chelsea: Kante at his best but imo he has not been at his best since Conte.
Arsenal: Aubameyang
United: -
Spurs: Kane
To think we used to have three genuine world class players in the same team.
Happy days.
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posted on 20/7/20
What about those strikers who’ve scored a lot of tap ins. Are they considered as WC ?
posted on 20/7/20
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 23 seconds ago
A striker’s judged by the number of goals he scores not the success of his club
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i'd have thought aguero is possibly the clearest pick in the whole league, even this year, injury disrupted and in a poor title defence, he has by far the best goals to minutes ratio in the league.
a few years ago kane was probably an equally clear choice, not so sure today. but if we accept that world class means top 4ish in your position - ie we're putting together a world squad, and want 4 strikers, 4 CBs etc - then name me 4 better strikers in the world. i can give you lewandowski, mbappe, and neymar, and even some of those are debatable, but i can't get a 4th name. too soon for haaland, too late for suarez, no other names spring to mind.
posted on 20/7/20
Pedro is the only world class striker in the EPL cos of what he has won at international and CL level.
posted on 20/7/20
One of the definitions of being "world Class" is to be obviously ahead of anyone else in your position, and doing it for a sustained period of time ( not, as we keep seeing, being good for a few games and being labelled world class. )
So, for me, with the term "world Class" being chucked about like confetti these days, there are only two who clearly that fit this, Messi and Ronaldo.
All the above players mentioned are good, but are they head and shoulders above everyone else in their position ?
posted on 20/7/20
“One of the definitions of being "world Class" is to be obviously ahead of anyone else in your position“
If that is your definition, then that would be world best rather than world class surely?
posted on 20/7/20
Aguero has to be one of the most prolific strikers ever in the PL. He was world class for a long while. Might of gone of the boil a bit these days, but he’s certainly a quality player.
On a par with the Shearers, Henry’s, Van Nistleroys.
posted on 20/7/20
comment by The Power Of Now (U20893)
posted 17 minutes ago
What about those strikers who’ve scored a lot of tap ins. Are they considered as WC ?
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If they score a lot of goals doing it, and they do it season after season then yes.
If scoring from lots of tap ins was easy then loads of strikers would be getting 20 league goals or more a season.
posted on 20/7/20
comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 23 minutes ago
One of the definitions of being "world Class" is to be obviously ahead of anyone else in your position, and doing it for a sustained period of time ( not, as we keep seeing, being good for a few games and being labelled world class. )
So, for me, with the term "world Class" being chucked about like confetti these days, there are only two who clearly that fit this, Messi and Ronaldo.
All the above players mentioned are good, but are they head and shoulders above everyone else in their position ?
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I would say it's debatable that Messi and Ronaldo belong to that elite 2 that are far better than anyone else, anymore. In terms of this era then yes, but presently no.
posted on 20/7/20
Interesting debate. I think the words "world class" are bandied about far too easily these days. A player has a good season or even a couple of good weeks and he's suddenly world class. For me, a world class player is on who could "easily" fit into any and every top team. Ronaldo, Messi - truly world class players.
Virgil Van Dijk is the only defender in the whole of the league who can stake a case imo. There are some other very good players but VVD is on course to be world class although maybe not quite there.
Alisson is the best keeper in the league I think but not sure he's as good as say Cech was at his peak.
Silva was definitely top class and de Bruyne is very very close. Aguero is also the only true world class striker in my view.
We have some really very good players in the league, Salah, Kane (the best English player), Kante - but are they really world class? I'm probably going to get slaughtered for not jumping onto the bandwagon but I just think it's reality.
posted on 20/7/20
Personally I choose to define world class as anyone who would get into the ‘world squad’ ie top 2 of any given position.
For example rewind a few years ago with Neuer & De Gea both were world class and it would be unfair to use starting world XI as one of them would miss out when they were clearly both world class.
I think using 2 is good for keeping it truly at world class level rather than top 5 in any given position.
posted on 20/7/20
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
Personally I choose to define world class as anyone who would get into the ‘world squad’ ie top 2 of any given position.
For example rewind a few years ago with Neuer & De Gea both were world class and it would be unfair to use starting world XI as one of them would miss out when they were clearly both world class.
I think using 2 is good for keeping it truly at world class level rather than top 5 in any given position.
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What if there are 3 really top players then in the same position?
posted on 20/7/20
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
Personally I choose to define world class as anyone who would get into the ‘world squad’ ie top 2 of any given position.
For example rewind a few years ago with Neuer & De Gea both were world class and it would be unfair to use starting world XI as one of them would miss out when they were clearly both world class.
I think using 2 is good for keeping it truly at world class level rather than top 5 in any given position.
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What if there are 3 really top players then in the same position?
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I think he is saying that Paul Scholes wasn't world class.
posted on 20/7/20
comment by Eric_Draven (U20260)
posted 13 minutes ago
Interesting debate. I think the words "world class" are bandied about far too easily these days. A player has a good season or even a couple of good weeks and he's suddenly world class. For me, a world class player is on who could "easily" fit into any and every top team. Ronaldo, Messi - truly world class players.
Virgil Van Dijk is the only defender in the whole of the league who can stake a case imo. There are some other very good players but VVD is on course to be world class although maybe not quite there.
Alisson is the best keeper in the league I think but not sure he's as good as say Cech was at his peak.
Silva was definitely top class and de Bruyne is very very close. Aguero is also the only true world class striker in my view.
We have some really very good players in the league, Salah, Kane (the best English player), Kante - but are they really world class? I'm probably going to get slaughtered for not jumping onto the bandwagon but I just think it's reality.
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I think KDB is world class as I really don’t know what else he has to do to show it.
posted on 20/7/20
comment by Eric_Draven (U20260)
posted 15 minutes ago
Interesting debate. I think the words "world class" are bandied about far too easily these days. A player has a good season or even a couple of good weeks and he's suddenly world class. For me, a world class player is on who could "easily" fit into any and every top team. Ronaldo, Messi - truly world class players.
Virgil Van Dijk is the only defender in the whole of the league who can stake a case imo. There are some other very good players but VVD is on course to be world class although maybe not quite there.
Alisson is the best keeper in the league I think but not sure he's as good as say Cech was at his peak.
Silva was definitely top class and de Bruyne is very very close. Aguero is also the only true world class striker in my view.
We have some really very good players in the league, Salah, Kane (the best English player), Kante - but are they really world class? I'm probably going to get slaughtered for not jumping onto the bandwagon but I just think it's reality.
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I think Kane just as an example has to be considered world class. Golden Boot on 2 occasions and would have been more but for injury. 20 or more goals per season for the last 6 seasons, again barring the last 2 due to injury.
Quickest player to reach 20 CL goals. Look at the company he beats.
Golden Boot winner at the World Cup and 32 goals in 45 for England. A better strike rate for country than most.
posted on 20/7/20
comment by Benjamin Kallman (U1734)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
Personally I choose to define world class as anyone who would get into the ‘world squad’ ie top 2 of any given position.
For example rewind a few years ago with Neuer & De Gea both were world class and it would be unfair to use starting world XI as one of them would miss out when they were clearly both world class.
I think using 2 is good for keeping it truly at world class level rather than top 5 in any given position.
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What if there are 3 really top players then in the same position?
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I think he is saying that Paul Scholes wasn't world class.
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You could take most eras and use that criteria and I'm sure some really top players would miss out.
posted on 20/7/20
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Eric_Draven (U20260)
posted 15 minutes ago
Interesting debate. I think the words "world class" are bandied about far too easily these days. A player has a good season or even a couple of good weeks and he's suddenly world class. For me, a world class player is on who could "easily" fit into any and every top team. Ronaldo, Messi - truly world class players.
Virgil Van Dijk is the only defender in the whole of the league who can stake a case imo. There are some other very good players but VVD is on course to be world class although maybe not quite there.
Alisson is the best keeper in the league I think but not sure he's as good as say Cech was at his peak.
Silva was definitely top class and de Bruyne is very very close. Aguero is also the only true world class striker in my view.
We have some really very good players in the league, Salah, Kane (the best English player), Kante - but are they really world class? I'm probably going to get slaughtered for not jumping onto the bandwagon but I just think it's reality.
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I think Kane just as an example has to be considered world class. Golden Boot on 2 occasions and would have been more but for injury. 20 or more goals per season for the last 6 seasons, again barring the last 2 due to injury.
Quickest player to reach 20 CL goals. Look at the company he beats.
Golden Boot winner at the World Cup and 32 goals in 45 for England. A better strike rate for country than most.
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20 CL goals by at age 26 doesn't sound that great.
Fair play though he did win the golden penalty so that's something.
posted on 20/7/20
comment by Benjamin Kallman (U1734)
posted 2 hours, 5 minutes ago
World class XI in EPL:
---------------De Gea-----------
AWB------VVD------Maguire------Shaw
Martial--------Pogba---------------Bruno
Greenwood--------Kane------------Rashford
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wow lol..... just wow. the ignorance and bias here is plain for all to see.
I don't know what's funnier. the goalie, 3 of the back 4. Martial in midfield or Pogba.
posted on 20/7/20
comment by Benjamin Kallman (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Geoff Tipps (U1449)
posted 9 minutes ago
Deary me Lordy be, anyone who doesn’t think Sergio Aguero is a world class striker must be on some seriously hard drugs
Been one of the best strikers in Europe for at least a decade
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european success? europa league 10 years ago with atletico. thats not enough.
International success? ziltch can we count the olympics really? has two runners up medals.
Aguero is class, we all know it but has he been just under the level or just not been lucky. Who knows.
As a forward its tough to compete with Messi and ronaldo for attention.
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Lewandowski has one CL runners up medal and nothing at international level.
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who the F mentioned lewandowski chump?
posted on 20/7/20
comment by Benjamin Kallman (U1734)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Eric_Draven (U20260)
posted 15 minutes ago
Interesting debate. I think the words "world class" are bandied about far too easily these days. A player has a good season or even a couple of good weeks and he's suddenly world class. For me, a world class player is on who could "easily" fit into any and every top team. Ronaldo, Messi - truly world class players.
Virgil Van Dijk is the only defender in the whole of the league who can stake a case imo. There are some other very good players but VVD is on course to be world class although maybe not quite there.
Alisson is the best keeper in the league I think but not sure he's as good as say Cech was at his peak.
Silva was definitely top class and de Bruyne is very very close. Aguero is also the only true world class striker in my view.
We have some really very good players in the league, Salah, Kane (the best English player), Kante - but are they really world class? I'm probably going to get slaughtered for not jumping onto the bandwagon but I just think it's reality.
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I think Kane just as an example has to be considered world class. Golden Boot on 2 occasions and would have been more but for injury. 20 or more goals per season for the last 6 seasons, again barring the last 2 due to injury.
Quickest player to reach 20 CL goals. Look at the company he beats.
Golden Boot winner at the World Cup and 32 goals in 45 for England. A better strike rate for country than most.
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20 CL goals by at age 26 doesn't sound that great.
Fair play though he did win the golden penalty so that's something.
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You may have caught some others in your net Barry, but you're not catching me.
posted on 20/7/20
World class by position with 2 allowed for each positon:
GK:
De Gea
Henderson
RB:
AWB
TAA
Centre Back:
Maguire
VVD
Left Back:
Shaw
Robertson
DM:
Matic
Kante
CM:
Pogba
Bruno
LW:
Martial
Salah
RW:
Rashford
Greenwood
CF:
Kane
Rashford
posted on 20/7/20
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 3 hours, 9 minutes ago
comment by ttliv87 English, European and World Champions (U11882)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by ttliv87 English, European and World Champions (U11882)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 2 minutes ago
If your definition of world class is ‘would start for every team in the world’ then that is probably only KDB surprisingly
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Name one team Van Dijk wouldn't be the best defender at.
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Wouldn’t start for Real Madrid
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Ok thanks for confirming you are reetarded.
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wow
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He loves that word
posted on 20/7/20
comment by Benjamin Kallman (U1734)
posted 4 minutes ago
World class by position with 2 allowed for each positon:
GK:
De Gea
Henderson
RB:
AWB
TAA
Centre Back:
Maguire
VVD
Left Back:
Shaw
Robertson
DM:
Matic
Kante
CM:
Pogba
Bruno
LW:
Martial
Salah
RW:
Rashford
Greenwood
CF:
Kane
Rashford
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your wumming seriously needs work lol.
posted on 20/7/20
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 7 minutes ago
Is this article a wum?🤔
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How so GT?
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Because of the names in the list?
posted on 20/7/20
My definition of world class is a bit broad. Anyone who could be considered/argued to be the top 5-6 in their position in the world, or any player who you could picture starting and being a key player for most of the top, elite teams in Europe.
I don’t really like the definition of world class being ‘whoever makes a world XI’ or ‘top 2 in each position’ as you could have three right-backs all performing at the same world class level but apparently only one or two can be world class by these definitions. Maybe I’m being over pedantic and others don’t take it that literally but hey this whole thread has basically turned into the classic debate of the ‘world class’ definition.
World class PL players:
City: Laporte, KDB, Aguero. Sterling, Ederson borderline
Liverpool: Allison, TAA, VVD, Robertson, Salah, Mane
Chelsea: Kante at his best but imo he has not been at his best since Conte.
Arsenal: Aubameyang
United: -
Spurs: Kane
posted on 20/7/20
To think we used to have three genuine world class players in the same team.
Happy days.
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