Well said Stewart Robertson
Well said Goldstein
And I hope the racist ignorant kwnt that trolled and racially abused Morelos gets identified, charged and convicted.

Yep. A good, strong statement.

comment by Tully 1 (U20686)
posted 5 minutes ago
Well said Stewart Robertson
Well said Goldstein
And I hope the racist ignorant kwnt that trolled and racially abused Morelos gets identified, charged and convicted.

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Yup!

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Tully 1 (U20686)
posted 5 minutes ago
Well said Stewart Robertson
Well said Goldstein
And I hope the racist ignorant kwnt that trolled and racially abused Morelos gets identified, charged and convicted.

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Agree 👏

Good statement.

Important to continue to highlight the constant abuse Morelos gets.

Lot of folk who were commenting were using the fact BLM are a shiity organisation as an excuse to not support the cause in my book.

Makes you despair when you see that racism is still a very prevalent problem.

We all know people who harbour racist thoughts when they're at home or in the company of certain people, but who usually keep it to themselves because they 1. know it's wrong and 2. know they'll be called out on it.

So it still beggars belief when you see our read about someone doing it so openly. Morons of the highest order.

Sadly some folk see social media as a place where they can spout repugnant bile.

Well done

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comment by Tully 1 (U20686)
posted 22 minutes ago

Well said Goldstein

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FFS - he’s a Jew anaw?

I think it is good to see that away from faceless Twitter there is no aye bit yooz are worse. We all band together

Possibly, the best statement they’ve made.

I'm impressed with the statement, I think the Rangers board over the years have been walking a tightrope between making moves to get the club with the times but also trying not ostracising the considerable right wing portion of the fan base which could hurt the bottom line.

This part of the statement in particular stands out to me as a indication that Rangers may well be ready to leave those fans behind.

"To be clear, if you are unable to support our players, regardless of their background, you are not welcome at Ibrox. Rangers is a club for all."

Hope it continues, coz I honestly believe Scotland as a society will benefit greatly in the long run.

Hmm, thought provoking. I must admit I struggle a bit with Football Clubs championing social justice issues.

As (I think) Mags said on here, you need to be careful when having Footballers/Football clubs as role models for things other than football, they are just as flawed as the rest of us.

They absolutely did need to come out and back the player(s) though.

It is a little strange seeing some millionaire supercar driving footballers at the very top of their game (F1 drivers also) talking about institutional/systematic racism. Casual racism is obviously still prevalent.

The one black player Rangers have who I’m sure has experienced real oppression – Alfredo Morelos is doing something positive and tangible to give something back via his foundation.

There was no tangible adverse reaction from Rangers fans when ‘Show Racism the Red Card’ was championed before a game.
The problem now is (rightly or wrongly) that the anti-racism message has been conflated with the BLM movement and their motives/actions.

I don’t think that Scotland is a particularly racist country – I think we have a much, much larger issue with sectarianism.

I had my season ticket for about 20 years. In all that time I never heard anyone use the ‘n’ word. I heard ‘black b******’ being used as an insult around 5 times (3 off by the same person) and certainly no more than 10. I remember those examples quite well as they were very unusual to hear.

How many times did I hear a derogatory name for a catholic in that time? – thousands of times and by thousands of people.

I suspect it’s exactly the same at Parkhead – very little actual racism, it’ll be more anti-proddy stuff.

I do think there is a 90 minute bigotry aspect to that – I know some will not agree though.

I think you need to be credibility to sell such an important message, I just wonder how in all good consciousness Rangers as a club can sell an anti-discrimination message given how relatively ineffectual they have been dealing with the anti-catholic rhetoric that’s been so prevalent at Ibrox for decades.

A rhetoric that has led to numerous fines and stand closures.

As I’ve said elsewhere – taking a moral stance is fine. Just make sure it’s not built on sand…

A very strongly worded message to morons of any description, GTF away from our club.

Hope somebody will fire into the sectarian in our support as well.( with machine guns if necessary )

FFS - he’s a Jew anaw?

I guess this is meant to be funny Silver, but it's things like this that perpetuate continuing scheidt from said morons.

comment by deBear (U8633)
posted 9 minutes ago
Hmm, thought provoking. I must admit I struggle a bit with Football Clubs championing social justice issues.

As (I think) Mags said on here, you need to be careful when having Footballers/Football clubs as role models for things other than football, they are just as flawed as the rest of us.

They absolutely did need to come out and back the player(s) though.

It is a little strange seeing some millionaire supercar driving footballers at the very top of their game (F1 drivers also) talking about institutional/systematic racism. Casual racism is obviously still prevalent.

The one black player Rangers have who I’m sure has experienced real oppression – Alfredo Morelos is doing something positive and tangible to give something back via his foundation.

There was no tangible adverse reaction from Rangers fans when ‘Show Racism the Red Card’ was championed before a game.
The problem now is (rightly or wrongly) that the anti-racism message has been conflated with the BLM movement and their motives/actions.

I don’t think that Scotland is a particularly racist country – I think we have a much, much larger issue with sectarianism.

I had my season ticket for about 20 years. In all that time I never heard anyone use the ‘n’ word. I heard ‘black b******’ being used as an insult around 5 times (3 off by the same person) and certainly no more than 10. I remember those examples quite well as they were very unusual to hear.

How many times did I hear a derogatory name for a catholic in that time? – thousands of times and by thousands of people.

I suspect it’s exactly the same at Parkhead – very little actual racism, it’ll be more anti-proddy stuff.

I do think there is a 90 minute bigotry aspect to that – I know some will not agree though.

I think you need to be credibility to sell such an important message, I just wonder how in all good consciousness Rangers as a club can sell an anti-discrimination message given how relatively ineffectual they have been dealing with the anti-catholic rhetoric that’s been so prevalent at Ibrox for decades.

A rhetoric that has led to numerous fines and stand closures.

As I’ve said elsewhere – taking a moral stance is fine. Just make sure it’s not built on sand…
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Couldn’t agree more.

comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 35 minutes ago
Makes you despair when you see that racism is still a very prevalent problem.

We all know people who harbour racist thoughts when they're at home or in the company of certain people, but who usually keep it to themselves because they 1. know it's wrong and 2. know they'll be called out on it.

So it still beggars belief when you see our read about someone doing it so openly. Morons of the highest order.
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You mean like the potus or sometimes even politicians in our country too.

Sadly social media has given all these people how used to keep their racism behind closed doors a platform and level of legitimacy.

Although that might in the long run be a good thing as it's no longer hidden and now out in the open and can hopefully be tackled. As I think you are right juke the problem never went away or reduced it was just hidden and covered up

It's amazing that racism still exists in this day and age, but sadly stupidity also survives the ages.

comment by deBear (U8633)
posted 17 minutes ago
Hmm, thought provoking. I must admit I struggle a bit with Football Clubs championing social justice issues.

As (I think) Mags said on here, you need to be careful when having Footballers/Football clubs as role models for things other than football, they are just as flawed as the rest of us.

They absolutely did need to come out and back the player(s) though.

It is a little strange seeing some millionaire supercar driving footballers at the very top of their game (F1 drivers also) talking about institutional/systematic racism. Casual racism is obviously still prevalent.

The one black player Rangers have who I’m sure has experienced real oppression – Alfredo Morelos is doing something positive and tangible to give something back via his foundation.

There was no tangible adverse reaction from Rangers fans when ‘Show Racism the Red Card’ was championed before a game.
The problem now is (rightly or wrongly) that the anti-racism message has been conflated with the BLM movement and their motives/actions.

I don’t think that Scotland is a particularly racist country – I think we have a much, much larger issue with sectarianism.

I had my season ticket for about 20 years. In all that time I never heard anyone use the ‘n’ word. I heard ‘black b******’ being used as an insult around 5 times (3 off by the same person) and certainly no more than 10. I remember those examples quite well as they were very unusual to hear.

How many times did I hear a derogatory name for a catholic in that time? – thousands of times and by thousands of people.

I suspect it’s exactly the same at Parkhead – very little actual racism, it’ll be more anti-proddy stuff.

I do think there is a 90 minute bigotry aspect to that – I know some will not agree though.

I think you need to be credibility to sell such an important message, I just wonder how in all good consciousness Rangers as a club can sell an anti-discrimination message given how relatively ineffectual they have been dealing with the anti-catholic rhetoric that’s been so prevalent at Ibrox for decades.

A rhetoric that has led to numerous fines and stand closures.

As I’ve said elsewhere – taking a moral stance is fine. Just make sure it’s not built on sand…
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Might it be that sectarianism is more of an issue in Scotland due to the prevalence of people for the other side to be angry about? In effect, if there were more black people in Scotland, those who espouse the sectarian views would just have a new more immediate target and racism would be more prevalent?

comment by deBear (U8633)
posted 15 minutes ago
Hmm, thought provoking. I must admit I struggle a bit with Football Clubs championing social justice issues.

As (I think) Mags said on here, you need to be careful when having Footballers/Football clubs as role models for things other than football, they are just as flawed as the rest of us.

They absolutely did need to come out and back the player(s) though.

It is a little strange seeing some millionaire supercar driving footballers at the very top of their game (F1 drivers also) talking about institutional/systematic racism. Casual racism is obviously still prevalent.

The one black player Rangers have who I’m sure has experienced real oppression – Alfredo Morelos is doing something positive and tangible to give something back via his foundation.

There was no tangible adverse reaction from Rangers fans when ‘Show Racism the Red Card’ was championed before a game.
The problem now is (rightly or wrongly) that the anti-racism message has been conflated with the BLM movement and their motives/actions.

I don’t think that Scotland is a particularly racist country – I think we have a much, much larger issue with sectarianism.

I had my season ticket for about 20 years. In all that time I never heard anyone use the ‘n’ word. I heard ‘black b******’ being used as an insult around 5 times (3 off by the same person) and certainly no more than 10. I remember those examples quite well as they were very unusual to hear.

How many times did I hear a derogatory name for a catholic in that time? – thousands of times and by thousands of people.

I suspect it’s exactly the same at Parkhead – very little actual racism, it’ll be more anti-proddy stuff.

I do think there is a 90 minute bigotry aspect to that – I know some will not agree though.

I think you need to be credibility to sell such an important message, I just wonder how in all good consciousness Rangers as a club can sell an anti-discrimination message given how relatively ineffectual they have been dealing with the anti-catholic rhetoric that’s been so prevalent at Ibrox for decades.

A rhetoric that has led to numerous fines and stand closures.

As I’ve said elsewhere – taking a moral stance is fine. Just make sure it’s not built on sand…
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Good post, yup let's get all the horrible stuff done away with and move on as a society 👏

Oh and excellent statement from Rangers.

Might it be that sectarianism is more of an issue in Scotland due to the prevalence of people for the other side to be angry about? In effect, if there were more black people in Scotland, those who espouse the sectarian views would just have a new more immediate target and racism would be more prevalent?

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Good question - difficult to answer though

I tend to think that hating a group of 'others' is a symptom of an individual's insecurity (a bit overly simplistic but you get the drift) and thus the need to feel better about (empowered) yourself by putting down others.

So it might be fair to assume that if it wasn't sectarianism then it would be racism.

Interestingly (or weirdly) the most casually racist (in terms of language/in appropriate humour, etc) British people I've met have all been ex-forces.

My point still stands though, racism in Scotland is a fraction of sectarianism.

Deal with the biggest issue first and the rest will follow.

comment by deBear (U8633)
posted 6 minutes ago
Might it be that sectarianism is more of an issue in Scotland due to the prevalence of people for the other side to be angry about? In effect, if there were more black people in Scotland, those who espouse the sectarian views would just have a new more immediate target and racism would be more prevalent?

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Good question - difficult to answer though

I tend to think that hating a group of 'others' is a symptom of an individual's insecurity (a bit overly simplistic but you get the drift) and thus the need to feel better about (empowered) yourself by putting down others.

So it might be fair to assume that if it wasn't sectarianism then it would be racism.

Interestingly (or weirdly) the most casually racist (in terms of language/in appropriate humour, etc) British people I've met have all been ex-forces.

My point still stands though, racism in Scotland is a fraction of sectarianism.

Deal with the biggest issue first and the rest will follow.
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👍 agreed

Must be a new Orange strip due out soon

There's yer Oxford University got a working vaccine for Covid-19.