Starting games slowly just seems to be a United thing and has been for years.
"United just haven't got going yet."
"United just aren't at the races here."
"United just looking a bit off the pace in these early stages."
Listen to a game on the radio and you can almost play bingo with phrases like this in the first half. Unfortunately, we don't finish games particularly well either , or at least when we're trying to defend a slender lead.
I find it actually quite disrespectful that we have to fulfil this fixture tonight. With West Ham already safe we should be given a 3-0 win and we can focus our efforts on more important things like the Europa League.
In golf, if your ball is less than a foot away from the hole after a putt, then your opponent lets you have a gimme. That's the kind of respect that you get in golf and we have certainly earned it over the years. Absolutely SICK of being treated with disrespect.
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 14 minutes ago
Starting games slowly just seems to be a United thing and has been for years.
"United just haven't got going yet."
"United just aren't at the races here."
"United just looking a bit off the pace in these early stages."
Listen to a game on the radio and you can almost play bingo with phrases like this in the first half. Unfortunately, we don't finish games particularly well either, or at least when we're trying to defend a slender lead.
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As much as it annoyed me under Jose we were actually quite good at seeing out games under him even if it was dull to watch.
Would just be nice to be 2-3 up at half time just so we can let go in the second half.
Because of that it'll 2-1 going into the last 10!!!!!
I never like the phrase "should be beating". It's a bad enough when it's a championship team, but but worse when it's against a PL team just off a thumping win and half our team jiggered.
I think à draw is the most likely one result.
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As much as it annoyed me under Jose we were actually quite good at seeing out games under him even if it was dull to watch.
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funny isn't it, the perception was that we would drop deep, concede all possession, and barely hang on as the fans chewed their fingernails, but under jose we hardly ever gave away a lead.
whereas under ole the team spirit is better, we keep the ball better, are more solid etc, yet we keep giving away points from winning positions.
anyhoo, i don't know why we are often so slow to get going, but tonight i expect them to be at it immediately, we should be surging forward whilst the eastenders are taking their knee.
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster
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As much as it annoyed me under Jose we were actually quite good at seeing out games under him even if it was dull to watch.
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funny isn't it, the perception was that we would drop deep, concede all possession, and barely hang on as the fans chewed their fingernails, but under jose we hardly ever gave away a lead.
whereas under ole the team spirit is better, we keep the ball better, are more solid etc, yet we keep giving away points from winning positions.
anyhoo, i don't know why we are often so slow to get going, but tonight i expect them to be at it immediately, we should be surging forward whilst the eastenders are taking their knee.
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The one thing you can't criticise Jose on is his record at keeping leads!
We need to be at it from the off tonight though. Get Sunday out of the system asap!
The team definitely got something to prove after a mediocre performance against Chelsea.
But let's not remember the difference in quality between the two London clubs also.
But back to the topic, Yes, we should try grasp the game but it's start, obviously.
In a scenario where we go 1-0 down, we might find ourself in lack of time to actually score a goal. We should do our thing, this team is actually more than good enough to out play most teams as long we are trying.
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comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 42 seconds ago
Draw is an awful result
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Effectively, a draw is identical to a one or two goal win in terms of implications for what we need from the Leicester game.
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 42 seconds ago
Draw is an awful result
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I thought two draws was enough
comment by Dunne was under Unger and I was over Dunne (U6037)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
Would just be nice to be 2-3 up at half time just so we can let go in the second half.
Because of that it'll 2-1 going into the last 10!!!!!
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To west Ham
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 2 minutes ago
Draw is an awful result
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Better than a loss
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
I never like the phrase "should be beating". It's a bad enough when it's a championship team, but but worse when it's against a PL team just off a thumping win and half our team jiggered.
I think à draw is the most likely one result.
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Agreed. This is a potential banana skin. Against a team that can play with freedom after reaching safety. A team that traditionally raises its game against us and relishes tripping us up. A team that's in decent form and much better rested than we are. Managed by someone who still harbours a grudge that he wasn't treated well by our club.
There are lots of examples of big games where we slipped up against 'teams we ought to beat'. Remember how LVG lost the crunch match against West Ham that resulted in failing to qualify for the CL? Or how Fergie's team failed to beat Moyes' Everton, thus handing the advantage in the title race to City? Or how we failed to beat West Ham on the final day of the season to pip Blackburn to the league title?
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
I never like the phrase "should be beating". It's a bad enough when it's a championship team, but but worse when it's against a PL team just off a thumping win and half our team jiggered.
I think à draw is the most likely one result.
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Agreed. This is a potential banana skin. Against a team that can play with freedom after reaching safety. A team that traditionally raises its game against us and relishes tripping us up. A team that's in decent form and much better rested than we are. Managed by someone who still harbours a grudge that he wasn't treated well by our club.
There are lots of examples of big games where we slipped up against 'teams we ought to beat'. Remember how LVG lost the crunch match against West Ham that resulted in failing to qualify for the CL? Or how Fergie's team failed to beat Moyes' Everton, thus handing the advantage in the title race to City? Or how we failed to beat West Ham on the final day of the season to pip Blackburn to the league title?
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Yeah but we should be beating West Ham though...
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 42 seconds ago
Draw is an awful result
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I thought two draws was enough
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Ironically, 2 draws guarantees top 4 but one win might not!!!
comment by Dunne was under Unger and I was over Dunne (U6037)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 42 seconds ago
Draw is an awful result
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I thought two draws was enough
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Ironically, 2 draws guarantees top 4 but one win might not!!!
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Even one draw could do it!
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
I never like the phrase "should be beating". It's a bad enough when it's a championship team, but but worse when it's against a PL team just off a thumping win and half our team jiggered.
I think à draw is the most likely one result.
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Agreed. This is a potential banana skin. Against a team that can play with freedom after reaching safety. A team that traditionally raises its game against us and relishes tripping us up. A team that's in decent form and much better rested than we are. Managed by someone who still harbours a grudge that he wasn't treated well by our club.
There are lots of examples of big games where we slipped up against 'teams we ought to beat'. Remember how LVG lost the crunch match against West Ham that resulted in failing to qualify for the CL? Or how Fergie's team failed to beat Moyes' Everton, thus handing the advantage in the title race to City? Or how we failed to beat West Ham on the final day of the season to pip Blackburn to the league title?
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Yeah but we should be beating West Ham though...
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It's like after the Southampton and Chelsea games we have forgotten the run that we were on. If we can't take 4 points out of our next 2 games we really shouldn't be thinking about being in the CL.
Let's not mess around you defeatist morons, let's go for the win! 😊
Let's hammer West Ham!
Worth remembering that one win is enough for you if Chelsea fail to win again. So you've got that permutation going for you by winning this match rather than drawing.
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 8 minutes ago
Worth remembering that one win is enough for you if Chelsea fail to win again. So you've got that permutation going for you by winning this match rather than drawing.
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True, seeing Chelsea win tonight would actually suprise me quite a bit.
Liverpool a far better team and have had a whole week break
Hopefully we win by a big margin to setup the Leicester City game with Leicester City chasing goals.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/53496489
Next year is our year as we are to start next list of names like last time.
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comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 48 minutes ago
If we draw today we will lose against Leicester imho as all the momentum will have gone
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Depends on the context. If West Ham play incredibly well, score a couple of random worldies for which our defence can't be faulted but, despite aggressive disciplined defending we play confidently, control the game and come back with two well constructed goals, I think morale and confidence will be pretty good.
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posted on 22/7/20
Starting games slowly just seems to be a United thing and has been for years.
"United just haven't got going yet."
"United just aren't at the races here."
"United just looking a bit off the pace in these early stages."
Listen to a game on the radio and you can almost play bingo with phrases like this in the first half. Unfortunately, we don't finish games particularly well either , or at least when we're trying to defend a slender lead.
posted on 22/7/20
I find it actually quite disrespectful that we have to fulfil this fixture tonight. With West Ham already safe we should be given a 3-0 win and we can focus our efforts on more important things like the Europa League.
In golf, if your ball is less than a foot away from the hole after a putt, then your opponent lets you have a gimme. That's the kind of respect that you get in golf and we have certainly earned it over the years. Absolutely SICK of being treated with disrespect.
posted on 22/7/20
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 14 minutes ago
Starting games slowly just seems to be a United thing and has been for years.
"United just haven't got going yet."
"United just aren't at the races here."
"United just looking a bit off the pace in these early stages."
Listen to a game on the radio and you can almost play bingo with phrases like this in the first half. Unfortunately, we don't finish games particularly well either, or at least when we're trying to defend a slender lead.
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As much as it annoyed me under Jose we were actually quite good at seeing out games under him even if it was dull to watch.
posted on 22/7/20
Would just be nice to be 2-3 up at half time just so we can let go in the second half.
Because of that it'll 2-1 going into the last 10!!!!!
posted on 22/7/20
I never like the phrase "should be beating". It's a bad enough when it's a championship team, but but worse when it's against a PL team just off a thumping win and half our team jiggered.
I think à draw is the most likely one result.
posted on 22/7/20
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster
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As much as it annoyed me under Jose we were actually quite good at seeing out games under him even if it was dull to watch.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
funny isn't it, the perception was that we would drop deep, concede all possession, and barely hang on as the fans chewed their fingernails, but under jose we hardly ever gave away a lead.
whereas under ole the team spirit is better, we keep the ball better, are more solid etc, yet we keep giving away points from winning positions.
anyhoo, i don't know why we are often so slow to get going, but tonight i expect them to be at it immediately, we should be surging forward whilst the eastenders are taking their knee.
posted on 22/7/20
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster
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As much as it annoyed me under Jose we were actually quite good at seeing out games under him even if it was dull to watch.
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funny isn't it, the perception was that we would drop deep, concede all possession, and barely hang on as the fans chewed their fingernails, but under jose we hardly ever gave away a lead.
whereas under ole the team spirit is better, we keep the ball better, are more solid etc, yet we keep giving away points from winning positions.
anyhoo, i don't know why we are often so slow to get going, but tonight i expect them to be at it immediately, we should be surging forward whilst the eastenders are taking their knee.
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The one thing you can't criticise Jose on is his record at keeping leads!
We need to be at it from the off tonight though. Get Sunday out of the system asap!
posted on 22/7/20
The team definitely got something to prove after a mediocre performance against Chelsea.
But let's not remember the difference in quality between the two London clubs also.
But back to the topic, Yes, we should try grasp the game but it's start, obviously.
In a scenario where we go 1-0 down, we might find ourself in lack of time to actually score a goal. We should do our thing, this team is actually more than good enough to out play most teams as long we are trying.
posted on 22/7/20
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posted on 22/7/20
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 42 seconds ago
Draw is an awful result
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Effectively, a draw is identical to a one or two goal win in terms of implications for what we need from the Leicester game.
posted on 22/7/20
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 42 seconds ago
Draw is an awful result
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I thought two draws was enough
posted on 22/7/20
comment by Dunne was under Unger and I was over Dunne (U6037)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
Would just be nice to be 2-3 up at half time just so we can let go in the second half.
Because of that it'll 2-1 going into the last 10!!!!!
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To west Ham
posted on 22/7/20
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 2 minutes ago
Draw is an awful result
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Better than a loss
posted on 22/7/20
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
I never like the phrase "should be beating". It's a bad enough when it's a championship team, but but worse when it's against a PL team just off a thumping win and half our team jiggered.
I think à draw is the most likely one result.
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Agreed. This is a potential banana skin. Against a team that can play with freedom after reaching safety. A team that traditionally raises its game against us and relishes tripping us up. A team that's in decent form and much better rested than we are. Managed by someone who still harbours a grudge that he wasn't treated well by our club.
There are lots of examples of big games where we slipped up against 'teams we ought to beat'. Remember how LVG lost the crunch match against West Ham that resulted in failing to qualify for the CL? Or how Fergie's team failed to beat Moyes' Everton, thus handing the advantage in the title race to City? Or how we failed to beat West Ham on the final day of the season to pip Blackburn to the league title?
posted on 22/7/20
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
I never like the phrase "should be beating". It's a bad enough when it's a championship team, but but worse when it's against a PL team just off a thumping win and half our team jiggered.
I think à draw is the most likely one result.
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Agreed. This is a potential banana skin. Against a team that can play with freedom after reaching safety. A team that traditionally raises its game against us and relishes tripping us up. A team that's in decent form and much better rested than we are. Managed by someone who still harbours a grudge that he wasn't treated well by our club.
There are lots of examples of big games where we slipped up against 'teams we ought to beat'. Remember how LVG lost the crunch match against West Ham that resulted in failing to qualify for the CL? Or how Fergie's team failed to beat Moyes' Everton, thus handing the advantage in the title race to City? Or how we failed to beat West Ham on the final day of the season to pip Blackburn to the league title?
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Yeah but we should be beating West Ham though...
posted on 22/7/20
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 42 seconds ago
Draw is an awful result
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I thought two draws was enough
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Ironically, 2 draws guarantees top 4 but one win might not!!!
posted on 22/7/20
comment by Dunne was under Unger and I was over Dunne (U6037)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 42 seconds ago
Draw is an awful result
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I thought two draws was enough
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Ironically, 2 draws guarantees top 4 but one win might not!!!
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Even one draw could do it!
posted on 22/7/20
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
I never like the phrase "should be beating". It's a bad enough when it's a championship team, but but worse when it's against a PL team just off a thumping win and half our team jiggered.
I think à draw is the most likely one result.
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Agreed. This is a potential banana skin. Against a team that can play with freedom after reaching safety. A team that traditionally raises its game against us and relishes tripping us up. A team that's in decent form and much better rested than we are. Managed by someone who still harbours a grudge that he wasn't treated well by our club.
There are lots of examples of big games where we slipped up against 'teams we ought to beat'. Remember how LVG lost the crunch match against West Ham that resulted in failing to qualify for the CL? Or how Fergie's team failed to beat Moyes' Everton, thus handing the advantage in the title race to City? Or how we failed to beat West Ham on the final day of the season to pip Blackburn to the league title?
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Yeah but we should be beating West Ham though...
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100%
It's like after the Southampton and Chelsea games we have forgotten the run that we were on. If we can't take 4 points out of our next 2 games we really shouldn't be thinking about being in the CL.
posted on 22/7/20
Let's not mess around you defeatist morons, let's go for the win! 😊
Let's hammer West Ham!
posted on 22/7/20
Worth remembering that one win is enough for you if Chelsea fail to win again. So you've got that permutation going for you by winning this match rather than drawing.
posted on 22/7/20
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 8 minutes ago
Worth remembering that one win is enough for you if Chelsea fail to win again. So you've got that permutation going for you by winning this match rather than drawing.
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True, seeing Chelsea win tonight would actually suprise me quite a bit.
Liverpool a far better team and have had a whole week break
posted on 22/7/20
Hopefully we win by a big margin to setup the Leicester City game with Leicester City chasing goals.
posted on 22/7/20
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/53496489
Next year is our year as we are to start next list of names like last time.
posted on 22/7/20
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posted on 22/7/20
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 48 minutes ago
If we draw today we will lose against Leicester imho as all the momentum will have gone
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Depends on the context. If West Ham play incredibly well, score a couple of random worldies for which our defence can't be faulted but, despite aggressive disciplined defending we play confidently, control the game and come back with two well constructed goals, I think morale and confidence will be pretty good.
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