Azhar Ali "we need to find an all-rounder at the number 7 position if we are to compete against teams outside of Asia"
___________
We need a batsman at no3 and a captain too mate
comment by Neo- PL CHAMPIONS (U9135)
posted 1 minute ago
Cheers for the banter chaps, onto the next.
ps. Woakes wants me to pass on a message to A14.
It reads ‘Hello’
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Fair play Neo, you have the last laugh until next time
when is the next test starting?
comment by Neo- PL CHAMPIONS (U9135)
posted 33 minutes ago
Cheers for the banter chaps, onto the next.
ps. Woakes wants me to pass on a message to A14.
It reads ‘Hello’
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comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
I was just about the only one that called this. 270 plus,was never ever going to be enough. Poor really from Pakistan throwing that game away 2nd Innings.
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This is only the third time 200 plus has been chased down at Old Trafford Sandy
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Modern players though should always be able chase down scores under 300. West Indies chased down over 300 only a month or so back. Test matches tend to get played like one day stuff nowadays.
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 9 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
I was just about the only one that called this. 270 plus,was never ever going to be enough. Poor really from Pakistan throwing that game away 2nd Innings.
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This is only the third time 200 plus has been chased down at Old Trafford Sandy
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Modern players though should always be able chase down scores under 300. West Indies chased down over 300 only a month or so back. Test matches tend to get played like one day stuff nowadays.
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No they didn't. They chased 200 and that was thanks to a brilliant innings from Blackwood. They chased over 300 in 2017 when Braithwaite and Hope were brilliant. There aren't too many chases of over 250 because usually pitches start misbehaving and attacking fields can be set. Unlike one day cricket.
If Ali had kept attacking and asking Buttler and Woakes to hit boundaries then I don't think they would have done it. Once the field spread, they could score 1s and 2s for 12 or 13 overs to steadily bring the target down without too much pressure.
I don't really understand your obsession by saying modern players should be able to but can't. It's not as if history is loaded with high run chases. In fact, 6 if the top 10 run chases have come since 2003.
comment by TCM (U8959)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 9 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
I was just about the only one that called this. 270 plus,was never ever going to be enough. Poor really from Pakistan throwing that game away 2nd Innings.
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This is only the third time 200 plus has been chased down at Old Trafford Sandy
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Modern players though should always be able chase down scores under 300. West Indies chased down over 300 only a month or so back. Test matches tend to get played like one day stuff nowadays.
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No they didn't. They chased 200 and that was thanks to a brilliant innings from Blackwood. They chased over 300 in 2017 when Braithwaite and Hope were brilliant. There aren't too many chases of over 250 because usually pitches start misbehaving and attacking fields can be set. Unlike one day cricket.
If Ali had kept attacking and asking Buttler and Woakes to hit boundaries then I don't think they would have done it. Once the field spread, they could score 1s and 2s for 12 or 13 overs to steadily bring the target down without too much pressure.
I don't really understand your obsession by saying modern players should be able to but can't. It's not as if history is loaded with high run chases. In fact, 6 if the top 10 run chases have come since 2003.
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OK we will beg to differ then. But you will see bigger and bigger successful run chases in Test match cricket in the future.
There was a time when 220 was considered good in a 50 over match, now you need 300 and above as a minimum. With tail enders capable of putting together quick 50s any run chase up to 350 should not be out of reach.
Oh and nearly all the successful big run chases have come in the past 20 years or so. One day cricket has changed Test cricket for ever.
Sandy knows, if he doesnt he will make it up anyway, a wealth of knowledge and total WUM
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 5 hours, 16 minutes ago.
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OK we will beg to differ then. But you will see bigger and bigger successful run chases in Test match cricket in the future.
There was a time when 220 was considered good in a 50 over match, now you need 300 and above as a minimum. With tail enders capable of putting together quick 50s any run chase up to 350 should not be out of reach.
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You may be right in that we will see a few more chases but by no means will teams fancy chasing scores over 250 let alone 300 especially when you've been bowled out for 200ish and then bowled your opponent out for 150ish. Day 4/5 pitches will also usually be a lot harder to bat on and you'll find you will need luck as well as skill to pull it off along with some poor and negative captaincy.
Stokes will miss the rest of the Test series for family reasons. All the best to him and his family.
https://www.ecb.co.uk/england/men/news/1750548/official-statement-ben-stokes
comment by TCM (U8959)
posted 1 hour, 34 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 5 hours, 16 minutes ago.
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OK we will beg to differ then. But you will see bigger and bigger successful run chases in Test match cricket in the future.
There was a time when 220 was considered good in a 50 over match, now you need 300 and above as a minimum. With tail enders capable of putting together quick 50s any run chase up to 350 should not be out of reach.
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You may be right in that we will see a few more chases but by no means will teams fancy chasing scores over 250 let alone 300 especially when you've been bowled out for 200ish and then bowled your opponent out for 150ish. Day 4/5 pitches will also usually be a lot harder to bat on and you'll find you will need luck as well as skill to pull it off along with some poor and negative captaincy.
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Sandy is not interested in anyone else's point of view, he has his black or white narrative and that's as far as he can see, very narrow minded individual
Sandy is not interested in anyone else's point of view, he has his black or white narrative and that's as far as he can see, very narrow minded individual
......
Sandy is like a well known poster from our board who throws so much $hit at the wall eventually some will stick.
OT Test Match stats, England’s penchant for recent collapses and the earlier signs in this test and the series against the WI suggested Pakistan had too many runs for England to chase on a bowler friendly wicket.
comment by Blue Heaven (U20912)
posted 42 minutes ago
Stokes will miss the rest of the Test series for family reasons. All the best to him and his family.
https://www.ecb.co.uk/england/men/news/1750548/official-statement-ben-stokes
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We should have definitely won the 1st test now as we'd be in a decent position to clinch the series with Stokes being out.
Do you think Crawley comes in for Stokes?
comment by Tablighi Jamaat (U15973)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Blue Heaven (U20912)
posted 42 minutes ago
Stokes will miss the rest of the Test series for family reasons. All the best to him and his family.
https://www.ecb.co.uk/england/men/news/1750548/official-statement-ben-stokes
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We should have definitely won the 1st test now as we'd be in a decent position to clinch the series with Stokes being out.
Do you think Crawley comes in for Stokes?
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Our batting is too fragile to win in England. Their batting is not strong point either but they have much bigger depth in batting than ours.
comment by Tablighi Jamaat (U15973)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Blue Heaven (U20912)
posted 42 minutes ago
Stokes will miss the rest of the Test series for family reasons. All the best to him and his family.
https://www.ecb.co.uk/england/men/news/1750548/official-statement-ben-stokes
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We should have definitely won the 1st test now as we'd be in a decent position to clinch the series with Stokes being out.
Do you think Crawley comes in for Stokes?
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I guess so. Seems the obvious option.
comment by Tablighi Jamaat (U15973)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Blue Heaven (U20912)
posted 42 minutes ago
Stokes will miss the rest of the Test series for family reasons. All the best to him and his family.
https://www.ecb.co.uk/england/men/news/1750548/official-statement-ben-stokes
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We should have definitely won the 1st test now as we'd be in a decent position to clinch the series with Stokes being out.
Do you think Crawley comes in for Stokes?
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Crawley will come in for certain. I think Woakes will play the all rounder role at 7 again with Crawley at 3 and Root at 4. Curran will surely come in as well to give a bit more batting depth at 8 with Bess at 9. Broad and I wouldn't be surprised to see Wood come in although that will be quite a lot of changes.
I would like to see Dan Lawrence given a go. If not can we have him back at Essex please.
Think they might rest Anderson, still not sure about Archers role in Test cricket
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 4 minutes ago
Think they might rest Anderson, still not sure about Archers role in Test cricket
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It shouldn’t be third choice of the new ball.
comment by Tablighi Jamaat (U15973)
posted about an hour ago
comment by Blue Heaven (U20912)
posted 42 minutes ago
Stokes will miss the rest of the Test series for family reasons. All the best to him and his family.
https://www.ecb.co.uk/england/men/news/1750548/official-statement-ben-stokes
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We should have definitely won the 1st test now as we'd be in a decent position to clinch the series with Stokes being out.
Do you think Crawley comes in for Stokes?
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England beat us without needing Stokes. Yes he got 2 late wickets but Woakes has always been a issue for us.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 13 minutes ago
I would like to see Dan Lawrence given a go. If not can we have him back at Essex please.
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this
i would be tempted to load up on batting and play no front line spinner
no Stokes means we lose a batter and a fast bowler, really is two players. Woakes is good with the bat and proved himself, but hes still a bowler who can bat for me, not an all rounder.
Burns, Sibley, Crawley, Root, Lawrence, Pope, Buttler, Woakes, Broad, Archer/Wood, Anderson
Crawley will just come in and replace Stokes from the last side though. Anderson could be rotated out for Wood.
Burns
Sibley
Crawley
Root
Pope
Buttler
Foakes
Woakes
Bess
Curran
Broad
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posted on 8/8/20
Azhar Ali "we need to find an all-rounder at the number 7 position if we are to compete against teams outside of Asia"
___________
We need a batsman at no3 and a captain too mate
posted on 8/8/20
comment by Neo- PL CHAMPIONS (U9135)
posted 1 minute ago
Cheers for the banter chaps, onto the next.
ps. Woakes wants me to pass on a message to A14.
It reads ‘Hello’
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fair play Neo, you have the last laugh until next time
posted on 8/8/20
when is the next test starting?
posted on 8/8/20
Thursday I think
posted on 8/8/20
Decent
posted on 8/8/20
comment by Neo- PL CHAMPIONS (U9135)
posted 33 minutes ago
Cheers for the banter chaps, onto the next.
ps. Woakes wants me to pass on a message to A14.
It reads ‘Hello’
----------------------------------------------------------------------
posted on 8/8/20
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
I was just about the only one that called this. 270 plus,was never ever going to be enough. Poor really from Pakistan throwing that game away 2nd Innings.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is only the third time 200 plus has been chased down at Old Trafford Sandy
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Modern players though should always be able chase down scores under 300. West Indies chased down over 300 only a month or so back. Test matches tend to get played like one day stuff nowadays.
posted on 9/8/20
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 9 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
I was just about the only one that called this. 270 plus,was never ever going to be enough. Poor really from Pakistan throwing that game away 2nd Innings.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is only the third time 200 plus has been chased down at Old Trafford Sandy
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Modern players though should always be able chase down scores under 300. West Indies chased down over 300 only a month or so back. Test matches tend to get played like one day stuff nowadays.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No they didn't. They chased 200 and that was thanks to a brilliant innings from Blackwood. They chased over 300 in 2017 when Braithwaite and Hope were brilliant. There aren't too many chases of over 250 because usually pitches start misbehaving and attacking fields can be set. Unlike one day cricket.
If Ali had kept attacking and asking Buttler and Woakes to hit boundaries then I don't think they would have done it. Once the field spread, they could score 1s and 2s for 12 or 13 overs to steadily bring the target down without too much pressure.
I don't really understand your obsession by saying modern players should be able to but can't. It's not as if history is loaded with high run chases. In fact, 6 if the top 10 run chases have come since 2003.
posted on 9/8/20
comment by TCM (U8959)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 9 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
I was just about the only one that called this. 270 plus,was never ever going to be enough. Poor really from Pakistan throwing that game away 2nd Innings.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is only the third time 200 plus has been chased down at Old Trafford Sandy
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Modern players though should always be able chase down scores under 300. West Indies chased down over 300 only a month or so back. Test matches tend to get played like one day stuff nowadays.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No they didn't. They chased 200 and that was thanks to a brilliant innings from Blackwood. They chased over 300 in 2017 when Braithwaite and Hope were brilliant. There aren't too many chases of over 250 because usually pitches start misbehaving and attacking fields can be set. Unlike one day cricket.
If Ali had kept attacking and asking Buttler and Woakes to hit boundaries then I don't think they would have done it. Once the field spread, they could score 1s and 2s for 12 or 13 overs to steadily bring the target down without too much pressure.
I don't really understand your obsession by saying modern players should be able to but can't. It's not as if history is loaded with high run chases. In fact, 6 if the top 10 run chases have come since 2003.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
OK we will beg to differ then. But you will see bigger and bigger successful run chases in Test match cricket in the future.
There was a time when 220 was considered good in a 50 over match, now you need 300 and above as a minimum. With tail enders capable of putting together quick 50s any run chase up to 350 should not be out of reach.
posted on 9/8/20
Oh and nearly all the successful big run chases have come in the past 20 years or so. One day cricket has changed Test cricket for ever.
posted on 9/8/20
Sandy knows, if he doesnt he will make it up anyway, a wealth of knowledge and total WUM
posted on 9/8/20
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 5 hours, 16 minutes ago.
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OK we will beg to differ then. But you will see bigger and bigger successful run chases in Test match cricket in the future.
There was a time when 220 was considered good in a 50 over match, now you need 300 and above as a minimum. With tail enders capable of putting together quick 50s any run chase up to 350 should not be out of reach.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You may be right in that we will see a few more chases but by no means will teams fancy chasing scores over 250 let alone 300 especially when you've been bowled out for 200ish and then bowled your opponent out for 150ish. Day 4/5 pitches will also usually be a lot harder to bat on and you'll find you will need luck as well as skill to pull it off along with some poor and negative captaincy.
posted on 9/8/20
Stokes will miss the rest of the Test series for family reasons. All the best to him and his family.
https://www.ecb.co.uk/england/men/news/1750548/official-statement-ben-stokes
posted on 9/8/20
comment by TCM (U8959)
posted 1 hour, 34 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 5 hours, 16 minutes ago.
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OK we will beg to differ then. But you will see bigger and bigger successful run chases in Test match cricket in the future.
There was a time when 220 was considered good in a 50 over match, now you need 300 and above as a minimum. With tail enders capable of putting together quick 50s any run chase up to 350 should not be out of reach.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You may be right in that we will see a few more chases but by no means will teams fancy chasing scores over 250 let alone 300 especially when you've been bowled out for 200ish and then bowled your opponent out for 150ish. Day 4/5 pitches will also usually be a lot harder to bat on and you'll find you will need luck as well as skill to pull it off along with some poor and negative captaincy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sandy is not interested in anyone else's point of view, he has his black or white narrative and that's as far as he can see, very narrow minded individual
posted on 9/8/20
Sandy is not interested in anyone else's point of view, he has his black or white narrative and that's as far as he can see, very narrow minded individual
......
Sandy is like a well known poster from our board who throws so much $hit at the wall eventually some will stick.
OT Test Match stats, England’s penchant for recent collapses and the earlier signs in this test and the series against the WI suggested Pakistan had too many runs for England to chase on a bowler friendly wicket.
posted on 9/8/20
comment by Blue Heaven (U20912)
posted 42 minutes ago
Stokes will miss the rest of the Test series for family reasons. All the best to him and his family.
https://www.ecb.co.uk/england/men/news/1750548/official-statement-ben-stokes
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We should have definitely won the 1st test now as we'd be in a decent position to clinch the series with Stokes being out.
Do you think Crawley comes in for Stokes?
posted on 9/8/20
comment by Tablighi Jamaat (U15973)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Blue Heaven (U20912)
posted 42 minutes ago
Stokes will miss the rest of the Test series for family reasons. All the best to him and his family.
https://www.ecb.co.uk/england/men/news/1750548/official-statement-ben-stokes
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We should have definitely won the 1st test now as we'd be in a decent position to clinch the series with Stokes being out.
Do you think Crawley comes in for Stokes?
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Our batting is too fragile to win in England. Their batting is not strong point either but they have much bigger depth in batting than ours.
posted on 9/8/20
comment by Tablighi Jamaat (U15973)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Blue Heaven (U20912)
posted 42 minutes ago
Stokes will miss the rest of the Test series for family reasons. All the best to him and his family.
https://www.ecb.co.uk/england/men/news/1750548/official-statement-ben-stokes
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We should have definitely won the 1st test now as we'd be in a decent position to clinch the series with Stokes being out.
Do you think Crawley comes in for Stokes?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I guess so. Seems the obvious option.
posted on 9/8/20
comment by Tablighi Jamaat (U15973)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Blue Heaven (U20912)
posted 42 minutes ago
Stokes will miss the rest of the Test series for family reasons. All the best to him and his family.
https://www.ecb.co.uk/england/men/news/1750548/official-statement-ben-stokes
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We should have definitely won the 1st test now as we'd be in a decent position to clinch the series with Stokes being out.
Do you think Crawley comes in for Stokes?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Crawley will come in for certain. I think Woakes will play the all rounder role at 7 again with Crawley at 3 and Root at 4. Curran will surely come in as well to give a bit more batting depth at 8 with Bess at 9. Broad and I wouldn't be surprised to see Wood come in although that will be quite a lot of changes.
posted on 9/8/20
I would like to see Dan Lawrence given a go. If not can we have him back at Essex please.
posted on 9/8/20
Think they might rest Anderson, still not sure about Archers role in Test cricket
posted on 9/8/20
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 4 minutes ago
Think they might rest Anderson, still not sure about Archers role in Test cricket
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It shouldn’t be third choice of the new ball.
posted on 9/8/20
comment by Tablighi Jamaat (U15973)
posted about an hour ago
comment by Blue Heaven (U20912)
posted 42 minutes ago
Stokes will miss the rest of the Test series for family reasons. All the best to him and his family.
https://www.ecb.co.uk/england/men/news/1750548/official-statement-ben-stokes
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We should have definitely won the 1st test now as we'd be in a decent position to clinch the series with Stokes being out.
Do you think Crawley comes in for Stokes?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
England beat us without needing Stokes. Yes he got 2 late wickets but Woakes has always been a issue for us.
posted on 9/8/20
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 13 minutes ago
I would like to see Dan Lawrence given a go. If not can we have him back at Essex please.
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this
i would be tempted to load up on batting and play no front line spinner
no Stokes means we lose a batter and a fast bowler, really is two players. Woakes is good with the bat and proved himself, but hes still a bowler who can bat for me, not an all rounder.
Burns, Sibley, Crawley, Root, Lawrence, Pope, Buttler, Woakes, Broad, Archer/Wood, Anderson
Crawley will just come in and replace Stokes from the last side though. Anderson could be rotated out for Wood.
posted on 9/8/20
Burns
Sibley
Crawley
Root
Pope
Buttler
Foakes
Woakes
Bess
Curran
Broad
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