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posted on 10/8/20

comment by Jay. (U16498)
posted 1 minute ago
Take out tonight's pen - coz this narrative has been going on a while.

Look at all of the pens, and try and take off the tinted specs, the vast majority of them are clear cut.
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My utd pal here says most of not all are legit. Says it's due to the fast technical players you guys have. I guess it could be so. I was thinking back to the days of our fast technical players and I recall being frustrated at times when I thought we were getting fouled in and out of the box and would get nothing (the story going around was we were soft). 21 seemed like an unusually high number is all.

posted on 10/8/20

comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 seconds ago
It's an anomoly to have so many but not a conspiracy.
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just copy and paste this comment every f@cking time this subject comes up

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 10/8/20

comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 5 minutes ago
21 pens and the only one definitely wrongly awarded was the Fernandez one at Villa.

Plenty not awarded to United that could or should have.
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No there was one where James went down and Rashford took it and missed. That one was wrong.
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defender stretched for the ball, didn't get it, impeded James. Foul anywhere else on the pitch.
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It featured in Sky's compilation of bad VAR decisions only just today. Seems like they agree it was a poor decision.
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Bet they never showed the Pogba one in the Villa game that wasn't given? Or the 2 v Palace earlier in the season that weren't given?
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Didn't see them but it was only the first part. If they're very bad then I'm sure they'd be shown.

comment by Jay. (U16498)

posted on 10/8/20

comment by MaineGunner (U10130)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Jay. (U16498)
posted 1 minute ago
Take out tonight's pen - coz this narrative has been going on a while.

Look at all of the pens, and try and take off the tinted specs, the vast majority of them are clear cut.
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My utd pal here says most of not all are legit. Says it's due to the fast technical players you guys have. I guess it could be so. I was thinking back to the days of our fast technical players and I recall being frustrated at times when I thought we were getting fouled in and out of the box and would get nothing (the story going around was we were soft). 21 seemed like an unusually high number is all.
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I think the main difference has been VAR, I've no doubt that a lot of these decisions we would have been complaining about crap refs had they been last season, because a lot of them just aren't given by the officials in the first place.

It is a very high number, but it just seems an odd thing for people to bang on about when the majority of people have literally only seen the Villa one, and the one tonight. There are 19 other examples that go against that narrative that we get soft pens, but that just gets ignored in favour of having a moan

posted on 10/8/20

comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 8 minutes ago
Salah gets denied about 3/4 pens a game for what Utd get given penalties for Jay. Thats the problem. If Salah did what Martial did tonight, Utd fans be all over him for it.
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Certainly can't argue with that last sentence.

posted on 10/8/20

Time to ban penalties. Just make it a indirect free kick.

posted on 10/8/20

comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 seconds ago
It's an anomoly to have so many but not a conspiracy.
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just copy and paste this comment every f@cking time this subject comes up
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Which just happens to be every f@cking time United get a pen

posted on 10/8/20

It's the modern game. Your team is just behind. There has been tiki taka from Barca, counter attack from Germans, park the bus from Mourinho, but this era is us drawing penalties. We are revolutionary. This is our era. The opposition fans will naturally be envious.

posted on 10/8/20

I think that's over fifty penalties since the start of 2017/18 season.

comment by Jay. (U16498)

posted on 10/8/20

https://youtu.be/moRvPGJET6M?t=1

Is this a soft pen too?

What about this one?

https://youtu.be/E__EUarCVB4?t=8

Maybe this one is soft?

https://youtu.be/CS3-E7zEmRI?t=41

posted on 10/8/20

comment by Jay. (U16498)
posted 17 seconds ago
https://youtu.be/moRvPGJET6M?t=1

Is this a soft pen too?

What about this one?

https://youtu.be/E__EUarCVB4?t=8

Maybe this one is soft?

https://youtu.be/CS3-E7zEmRI?t=41
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Pen, pen, & pen!

posted on 10/8/20

Tonight’s was soft. Most of theirs haven’t been though, the way they ply with all the front three taking on defenders more than passing across the box means they are going to get a lot of penalties.

posted on 10/8/20

comment by Geoff Tipps (U1449)

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Which just happens to be every f@cking time United get a pen
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yup. don't remember the corruption claims when watford scored more from the spot this season (as a % of total goals) than united, or when palace in 04/05 were awarded 13 penalties, and scored just 41 PL goals (we received 14 this season, but scored 66 goals).

And we're still only second in the all-time PL penalties table!

comment by Jay. (U16498)

posted on 10/8/20

Actually why I just leave this here -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS3-E7zEmRI

There are maybe 2-3 soft ones (debatable), and one very dodgy one (Villa), so, is there a conspiracy?

posted on 10/8/20

We are like the most attacking team in world football right now. Attack attack attack, chance after chance after chance. No surprise we get so many penalties as virtually most of the game we have the ball in the opposition penalty box.

posted on 10/8/20

Looks like united got 14 in the league this season and that is a record. Before that, it was Leicester in 15/16 with 13. United also got 12 last season which was the highest amount. But looking back further, they have not gotten as many.

So 14 in the league and 7 in cup competitions.

Past few seasons in the league, we have received 4, 5,5, 6 and 2 penalties per season.

posted on 10/8/20

comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 2 minutes ago
We are like the most attacking team in world football right now. Attack attack attack, chance after chance after chance. No surprise we get so many penalties as virtually most of the game we have the ball in the opposition penalty box.
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I need to stop taking heroin before logging into the hafi account.

posted on 10/8/20

Martial is a diver on the slightest of touch also Raheem Sterling comes to mind those two mist be watched by ref for diving next season

posted on 10/8/20

I actual think refs should be giving teams far more penalties, there are loads of infringements in most matches that warrant them.

So many tackles that are stonewall freekicks are never given.

More penalties, more goals, more entertainment

posted on 10/8/20

comment by The Crystal Skull from thon Indiana Jones Disaster (U21917)
posted 1 minute ago
I actual think refs should be giving teams far more penalties, there are loads of infringements in most matches that warrant them.

So many tackles that are stonewall freekicks are never given.

More penalties, more goals, more entertainment
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this is true. in this respect united are trailblazers, where we lead, others follow.

posted on 10/8/20

I'm confused - Are people upset that we are awarded penalties, despite the number of checks now done beforehand?

posted on 10/8/20

comment by Darkphoenix (U11503)
posted 36 seconds ago

Are people upset
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this is putting it mildly

posted on 10/8/20

You will never get a penalty when your team are sat on their backsides in their own half. Those box shaped lines at the other end of the pitch from where your team's players are is where you have to be. Simples.

posted on 10/8/20

comment by Darkphoenix (U11503)
posted 53 seconds ago
I'm confused - Are people upset that we are awarded penalties, despite the number of checks now done beforehand?
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You’d be the same if you sat at your computer wearing nothing but a tin foil hat

posted on 10/8/20

We actually had an insane amount of penalties wrongly turned down this season. Over 10 I believe that were stonewall. Shows you VAR isn't yet perfect.

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