They lost the plot after losing Neymar. What about the odd signings like Paulinho, Vidal and now Pjanic. Players way past there best. They also wanted Willian.
Barca have to pay us if Coutinho wins the CL with Bayern? That's amazing
"Furthermore, Barcelona will pay Liverpool €5m if Coutinho wins the Champions League this season (the reported clause is, incredibly, player specific and not club specific)."
This is just tragic.
Probably the only major club in Europe who's recruitment has been worse than ours the past 5 or so years. You look at some of thr signings they've made in that time and it beggars belief.
How the hell have they allowed Coutinho to also play against them as well? It was the same with James when he was on loan there despite being a Real player.
Just read on Twitter that apparently we sold the debt to a finance company, so it will in fact be them that Barca have to pay. But I guess they're still paying us for it in a roundabout way.
I can see the logic in the Dembele and Coutinho signings. Both were looking like they would be top players for years to come. They overpaid but looked like they were getting class.
The Griezmann one made no sense. Late 20s and plays in similar areas to Messi and Suarez. Total waste of money.
Then there is the weird signings like Prince Boateng, Braithwaite and Paulinho. Pjanic is also another strange one. Quality but ageing and going into an already ageing team.
Imagine we sign Sancho for stupid money and he flops. We're right to try to minimise the fees we pay for the players we target.
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comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 4 minutes ago
Imagine we sign Sancho for stupid money and he flops. We're right to try to minimise the fees we pay for the players we target.
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If that happens it happens. We’ll probably have to pay stupid money to get him but I wouldn’t criticise the club if he flopped.
If we went and signed say the likes of Jiménez or Koulibaly for huge money and they flopped I would criticise.
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - PL Champione (U1108)
posted 18 minutes ago
They lost the plot after losing Neymar. What about the odd signings like Paulinho, Vidal and now Pjanic. Players way past there best. They also wanted Willian.
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Paulinho actually did really well for them.
Pjanic is a good player.
It’s the ones like Turan, Aleix Vidal, Braithwaite and Kevin Prince Boateng that were truly bizarre
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 4 minutes ago
Imagine we sign Sancho for stupid money and he flops. We're right to try to minimise the fees we pay for the players we target.
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It's crazy money given the present economic situation that's likely to get worse.
Just goes to show however good you are you have to keep getting it right to stay ahead.
Fergie was the master of this.
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke - 🏆 CHAMP19NS 🏆 (U1217)
posted 13 minutes ago
Just read on Twitter that apparently we sold the debt to a finance company, so it will in fact be them that Barca have to pay. But I guess they're still paying us for it in a roundabout way.
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I didn't know clubs could sell those debts
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 29 seconds ago
Just goes to show however good you are you have to keep getting it right to stay ahead.
Fergie was the master of this.
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Not so sure Fergie got it that right in the transfer market in his later years.
His strength was in being able to get the most out of what he had
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 4 minutes ago
Imagine we sign Sancho for stupid money and he flops. We're right to try to minimise the fees we pay for the players we target.
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It's crazy money given the present economic situation that's likely to get worse.
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Somebody think of the pug
comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke - 🏆 CHAMP19NS 🏆 (U1217)
posted 13 minutes ago
Just read on Twitter that apparently we sold the debt to a finance company, so it will in fact be them that Barca have to pay. But I guess they're still paying us for it in a roundabout way.
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I didn't know clubs could sell those debts
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Me neither
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 4 minutes ago
Imagine we sign Sancho for stupid money and he flops. We're right to try to minimise the fees we pay for the players we target.
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It's crazy money given the present economic situation that's likely to get worse.
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Somebody think of the pug
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Someone needs to
Matth is only thinking of Sancho rn
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 4 minutes ago
Imagine we sign Sancho for stupid money and he flops. We're right to try to minimise the fees we pay for the players we target.
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It's crazy money given the present economic situation that's likely to get worse.
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It’s only crazy money if it doesn’t work out.
Their transfer dealings have been staggeringly bad since Neymar left. A lot of absolutely terrible signings.
Expecting a major overhaul this summer, should be an entertaining watch from the sidelines.
its not helped by the fans of clubs like barca n RM though, absolute clown fans. Coutinho stats weren't even that bad for Barca for example. RM fans even turned on Ronaldo ffs. Also player politics in these clubs means manager dont really stand a chance, when the players run the joint.
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
I can see the logic in the Dembele and Coutinho signings. Both were looking like they would be top players for years to come. They overpaid but looked like they were getting class.
The Griezmann one made no sense. Late 20s and plays in similar areas to Messi and Suarez. Total waste of money.
Then there is the weird signings like Prince Boateng, Braithwaite and Paulinho. Pjanic is also another strange one. Quality but ageing and going into an already ageing team.
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I'm a Barça man 100% and I agree almost completely with you.
The problem we have is historical. It more or less stems from when Van Gaal was coach and he sold all the players from La Masia for next to nothing and bought in the Dutch national team for exorbitant fees and wages. Whilst Cocu and Kluivert would turn out to be good signings - players like Overmars, Zenden, Rudiger, Bogarde, Ronald de Boer etc were expensive and inferior to most of the players we sold.
When Van Gaal (twice) and Serra Ferrer left the club in 2001, we were effectively bankrupt, in huge debt.
Rijkaard and the acquisition of Ronaldinho surrounded by homegrown talent (Xavi, Pujol, Oleguer, with Iniesta and Messi towards the end) steadied the ship. But we relied greatly on the fact that players like Edgar Davids and Deco wanted to be at Barça to cut their wages. Although Guardiola (and Messi) will be the one everyone remembers, Rijkaard (with Ronnie) saved us in my opinion.
Just when we were on a stable financial footing, Guardiola wasted a fortune on Ibrahimovic, Henry, Chygrynskyi, Hleb etc etc etc.
Then post Guardiola, We bought Neymar for 90m € and sold him for 270m. We still managed to waste more money than we made on Dembele and Coutinho. We overspent on Griezmann - buying him at least 2 years too late.
The wages we pay to Messi would be the equivalent of three world class players. Basically, we are financially impotent. Still in debt and looking at bargain basement footballers to compliment the team. What is amazing is that by the law of averages, we should have found at least one gem in all these footballers who have come and gone in the last decade, but our recruitment team is so awful that we have bought dud after dud.
Now, the soap opera begins!
good article Arab
Yes , they've made an absolute mess of recruitment for years
There was a report in the athletic saying that they've had one scouting meeting in the last year
Do you guys think is genuinely possible Messi could leave? Where would he even go? Back to Argentina could arguably be the only realistic option
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 1 minute ago
Do you guys think is genuinely possible Messi could leave? Where would he even go? Back to Argentina could arguably be the only realistic option
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDrfE9I8_hs
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posted on 15/8/20
They lost the plot after losing Neymar. What about the odd signings like Paulinho, Vidal and now Pjanic. Players way past there best. They also wanted Willian.
posted on 15/8/20
Barca have to pay us if Coutinho wins the CL with Bayern? That's amazing
posted on 15/8/20
"Furthermore, Barcelona will pay Liverpool €5m if Coutinho wins the Champions League this season (the reported clause is, incredibly, player specific and not club specific)."
This is just tragic.
Probably the only major club in Europe who's recruitment has been worse than ours the past 5 or so years. You look at some of thr signings they've made in that time and it beggars belief.
posted on 15/8/20
How the hell have they allowed Coutinho to also play against them as well? It was the same with James when he was on loan there despite being a Real player.
posted on 15/8/20
Just read on Twitter that apparently we sold the debt to a finance company, so it will in fact be them that Barca have to pay. But I guess they're still paying us for it in a roundabout way.
posted on 15/8/20
I can see the logic in the Dembele and Coutinho signings. Both were looking like they would be top players for years to come. They overpaid but looked like they were getting class.
The Griezmann one made no sense. Late 20s and plays in similar areas to Messi and Suarez. Total waste of money.
Then there is the weird signings like Prince Boateng, Braithwaite and Paulinho. Pjanic is also another strange one. Quality but ageing and going into an already ageing team.
posted on 15/8/20
Imagine we sign Sancho for stupid money and he flops. We're right to try to minimise the fees we pay for the players we target.
posted on 15/8/20
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 15/8/20
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 4 minutes ago
Imagine we sign Sancho for stupid money and he flops. We're right to try to minimise the fees we pay for the players we target.
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If that happens it happens. We’ll probably have to pay stupid money to get him but I wouldn’t criticise the club if he flopped.
If we went and signed say the likes of Jiménez or Koulibaly for huge money and they flopped I would criticise.
posted on 15/8/20
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - PL Champione (U1108)
posted 18 minutes ago
They lost the plot after losing Neymar. What about the odd signings like Paulinho, Vidal and now Pjanic. Players way past there best. They also wanted Willian.
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Paulinho actually did really well for them.
Pjanic is a good player.
It’s the ones like Turan, Aleix Vidal, Braithwaite and Kevin Prince Boateng that were truly bizarre
posted on 15/8/20
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 4 minutes ago
Imagine we sign Sancho for stupid money and he flops. We're right to try to minimise the fees we pay for the players we target.
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It's crazy money given the present economic situation that's likely to get worse.
posted on 15/8/20
Just goes to show however good you are you have to keep getting it right to stay ahead.
Fergie was the master of this.
posted on 15/8/20
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke - 🏆 CHAMP19NS 🏆 (U1217)
posted 13 minutes ago
Just read on Twitter that apparently we sold the debt to a finance company, so it will in fact be them that Barca have to pay. But I guess they're still paying us for it in a roundabout way.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I didn't know clubs could sell those debts
posted on 15/8/20
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 29 seconds ago
Just goes to show however good you are you have to keep getting it right to stay ahead.
Fergie was the master of this.
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Not so sure Fergie got it that right in the transfer market in his later years.
His strength was in being able to get the most out of what he had
posted on 15/8/20
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 4 minutes ago
Imagine we sign Sancho for stupid money and he flops. We're right to try to minimise the fees we pay for the players we target.
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It's crazy money given the present economic situation that's likely to get worse.
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Somebody think of the pug
posted on 15/8/20
comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke - 🏆 CHAMP19NS 🏆 (U1217)
posted 13 minutes ago
Just read on Twitter that apparently we sold the debt to a finance company, so it will in fact be them that Barca have to pay. But I guess they're still paying us for it in a roundabout way.
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I didn't know clubs could sell those debts
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Me neither
posted on 15/8/20
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 4 minutes ago
Imagine we sign Sancho for stupid money and he flops. We're right to try to minimise the fees we pay for the players we target.
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It's crazy money given the present economic situation that's likely to get worse.
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Somebody think of the pug
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Someone needs to
Matth is only thinking of Sancho rn
posted on 15/8/20
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 4 minutes ago
Imagine we sign Sancho for stupid money and he flops. We're right to try to minimise the fees we pay for the players we target.
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It's crazy money given the present economic situation that's likely to get worse.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s only crazy money if it doesn’t work out.
posted on 15/8/20
Their transfer dealings have been staggeringly bad since Neymar left. A lot of absolutely terrible signings.
Expecting a major overhaul this summer, should be an entertaining watch from the sidelines.
posted on 15/8/20
its not helped by the fans of clubs like barca n RM though, absolute clown fans. Coutinho stats weren't even that bad for Barca for example. RM fans even turned on Ronaldo ffs. Also player politics in these clubs means manager dont really stand a chance, when the players run the joint.
posted on 15/8/20
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
I can see the logic in the Dembele and Coutinho signings. Both were looking like they would be top players for years to come. They overpaid but looked like they were getting class.
The Griezmann one made no sense. Late 20s and plays in similar areas to Messi and Suarez. Total waste of money.
Then there is the weird signings like Prince Boateng, Braithwaite and Paulinho. Pjanic is also another strange one. Quality but ageing and going into an already ageing team.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm a Barça man 100% and I agree almost completely with you.
The problem we have is historical. It more or less stems from when Van Gaal was coach and he sold all the players from La Masia for next to nothing and bought in the Dutch national team for exorbitant fees and wages. Whilst Cocu and Kluivert would turn out to be good signings - players like Overmars, Zenden, Rudiger, Bogarde, Ronald de Boer etc were expensive and inferior to most of the players we sold.
When Van Gaal (twice) and Serra Ferrer left the club in 2001, we were effectively bankrupt, in huge debt.
Rijkaard and the acquisition of Ronaldinho surrounded by homegrown talent (Xavi, Pujol, Oleguer, with Iniesta and Messi towards the end) steadied the ship. But we relied greatly on the fact that players like Edgar Davids and Deco wanted to be at Barça to cut their wages. Although Guardiola (and Messi) will be the one everyone remembers, Rijkaard (with Ronnie) saved us in my opinion.
Just when we were on a stable financial footing, Guardiola wasted a fortune on Ibrahimovic, Henry, Chygrynskyi, Hleb etc etc etc.
Then post Guardiola, We bought Neymar for 90m € and sold him for 270m. We still managed to waste more money than we made on Dembele and Coutinho. We overspent on Griezmann - buying him at least 2 years too late.
The wages we pay to Messi would be the equivalent of three world class players. Basically, we are financially impotent. Still in debt and looking at bargain basement footballers to compliment the team. What is amazing is that by the law of averages, we should have found at least one gem in all these footballers who have come and gone in the last decade, but our recruitment team is so awful that we have bought dud after dud.
Now, the soap opera begins!
posted on 15/8/20
good article Arab
Yes , they've made an absolute mess of recruitment for years
posted on 15/8/20
There was a report in the athletic saying that they've had one scouting meeting in the last year
posted on 15/8/20
Do you guys think is genuinely possible Messi could leave? Where would he even go? Back to Argentina could arguably be the only realistic option
posted on 15/8/20
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 1 minute ago
Do you guys think is genuinely possible Messi could leave? Where would he even go? Back to Argentina could arguably be the only realistic option
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDrfE9I8_hs
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