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Goals and assists 20/21

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posted on 22/3/21

Lamela 1 assist all season

posted on 22/3/21

comment by MKspur ツ - We remember (U9129)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 5 minutes ago
Bergwijn 0 goals. That stat is Simply not good enough
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Precisely and still you got a few fans on here making excuses for him. “He’s just lost his confidence”. No, he’s not good enough,

Harry Kane outstanding as per usual. Gareth Bale, very good return if you ask me. 10 goals and 5 assist. Not to be sniffed at. Vinicius, got goals when given opportunities.
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He is good enough we have seen it when he first joined. We even saw it against us on the champion league.

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I don’t see how you can defend 0 goals all season when he’s an attacker. If this was Gareth Bale, you’d be using this stat all the time. He played pretty much all of the 1st half of our season as 1st choice before Jose started to bench him, so nobody can sit there and tell me he hasn’t had opportunities. 0 goals is an extremely poor return. Lamela, who you absolutely hate has 4 more goals than him. Bergwijn come onto the pitch yesterday and was totally out of his depth as per usual.

comment by Hengy (U9129)

posted on 22/3/21

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by MKspur ツ - We remember (U9129)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 5 minutes ago
Bergwijn 0 goals. That stat is Simply not good enough
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Precisely and still you got a few fans on here making excuses for him. “He’s just lost his confidence”. No, he’s not good enough,

Harry Kane outstanding as per usual. Gareth Bale, very good return if you ask me. 10 goals and 5 assist. Not to be sniffed at. Vinicius, got goals when given opportunities.
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He is good enough we have seen it when he first joined. We even saw it against us on the champion league.

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I don’t see how you can defend 0 goals all season when he’s an attacker. If this was Gareth Bale, you’d be using this stat all the time. He played pretty much all of the 1st half of our season as 1st choice before Jose started to bench him, so nobody can sit there and tell me he hasn’t had opportunities. 0 goals is an extremely poor return. Lamela, who you absolutely hate has 4 more goals than him. Bergwijn come onto the pitch yesterday and was totally out of his depth as per usual.
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Lamela has been here 8 seasons and done nothing but steal a pay cheque yet you still stick up for him? Why not show the same patience with other players.

His goals out put is poor this season but let’s not forget tactics have played a huge part in that.

If he’s still putting this out put this time next year then yes it’ll be time to call him out

posted on 22/3/21

Whilst we still have Danny Rose on the payroll I find it hard to accuse anyone else of stealing a living when you have the walking definition of it still with us.

comment by Hengy (U9129)

posted on 22/3/21

comment by RespectYourAldersSon (U22365)
posted 15 seconds ago
Whilst we still have Danny Rose on the payroll I find it hard to accuse anyone else of stealing a living when you have the walking definition of it still with us.
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posted on 22/3/21

comment by MKspur ツ - We remember (U9129)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by MKspur ツ - We remember (U9129)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 5 minutes ago
Bergwijn 0 goals. That stat is Simply not good enough
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Precisely and still you got a few fans on here making excuses for him. “He’s just lost his confidence”. No, he’s not good enough,

Harry Kane outstanding as per usual. Gareth Bale, very good return if you ask me. 10 goals and 5 assist. Not to be sniffed at. Vinicius, got goals when given opportunities.
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He is good enough we have seen it when he first joined. We even saw it against us on the champion league.

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I don’t see how you can defend 0 goals all season when he’s an attacker. If this was Gareth Bale, you’d be using this stat all the time. He played pretty much all of the 1st half of our season as 1st choice before Jose started to bench him, so nobody can sit there and tell me he hasn’t had opportunities. 0 goals is an extremely poor return. Lamela, who you absolutely hate has 4 more goals than him. Bergwijn come onto the pitch yesterday and was totally out of his depth as per usual.
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Lamela has been here 8 seasons and done nothing but steal a pay cheque yet you still stick up for him? Why not show the same patience with other players.

His goals out put is poor this season but let’s not forget tactics have played a huge part in that.

If he’s still putting this out put this time next year then yes it’ll be time to call him out
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I only mentioned Lamela because you harbour a lot of hate towards him, so I’m trying to do a comparison on who’s actually scored goals out of 2 players that don’t usually contribute much. Lamela is a squad player too where as Bergwijn was actually 1st choice at 1st half of our season. The tactics thing is an excuse. How comes those same tactics haven’t affected Gareth Bales or Lucas Moura’s goal scoring stats ? I think you just need to accept he’s been really poor this season. No excuses for it mate.

comment by Hengy (U9129)

posted on 22/3/21

It’s not hate it’s he’s had his chance for Many many seasons and he’s failed.

If you remember I stuck up for him against chicken like I’m sticking up for Bergwijn against you.

You need to give a player time before you write them off

posted on 22/3/21

comment by MKspur ツ - We remember (U9129)
posted 19 seconds ago
It’s not hate it’s he’s had his chance for Many many seasons and he’s failed.

If you remember I stuck up for him against chicken like I’m sticking up for Bergwijn against you.

You need to give a player time before you write them off
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I want him to succeed mate. It’s not like I’m sitting there hoping Bergwijn does s**. Nothing I would love more than for him to come on and bang in a last minute screamer. But, when I’m watching him probing me right time and time again with the stats to back it up too, it’s no wonder I’m frustrated with him. I’m certainly not alone in this either.

posted on 22/3/21

comment by MKspur ツ - We remember (U9129)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RespectYourAldersSon (U22365)
posted 15 seconds ago
Whilst we still have Danny Rose on the payroll I find it hard to accuse anyone else of stealing a living when you have the walking definition of it still with us.
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Most irrelevant comment of the day
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Give it time, its only midday 👍

But if you wish to keep it more relevant I'll jump out of my comfort zone and give it a go.
Lamela's output is pretty poor, sure, but there's a reason that both Mourhino and Poch have continually selected him when fit.
So stealing a living? Sounds like he's playing for a living, especially the majority of this season, which sort of renders your comment moot.

Danny Rose however...

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 22/3/21

comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 36 minutes ago
Bergwijn 0 goals. That stat is Simply not good enough
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No it isn't good enough. The guy seems talented and does well outside of the box but you cannot be going a whole season without scoring. For someone to be part of 29 games and not get a goal must put him in a very small minority for attacking players in PL history who have not scored from a decent chunk of games.

Has to improve his end product next season.

comment by Hengy (U9129)

posted on 22/3/21

As for the tactical bits Bale doesn’t do the defensive parts that’s been falling onto Son hence why his goal scoring stats took a huge hit.

Similarly like Lucas before he got moved into the 10 position recently.

posted on 22/3/21

Yes, basically one winger is a defensive winger so the other has the freedom to roam and continually attack.

Bergwijn should have scored more goals, but around 2-4 league goals would be an appropriate amount based on the job that is being asked of him. His role is to facilitate for Kane/Son and he’s a reason why our best form coincided with him being in the team. Similarly how when Bale came in Son stopped scoring as Son had to do the defensive work as Bale doesn’t defend.

posted on 22/3/21

I think those two big misses at Anfield knocked his confidence big time. His stats are poor though, however we try to dress it up.

posted on 22/3/21

Kane and Son really are incredible players.

On Bergwijn, you can see the quality there. Similar to how Ndombele was getting slagged off last year, it was obvious he would be a quality footballer for us, just the manager holding him back.

Bergwijn is not Ndombele level, but I expect under a progressive manager next season he will be a very useful squad player, similar to what Lucas currently is.

posted on 22/3/21

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by MKspur ツ - We remember (U9129)
posted 19 seconds ago
It’s not hate it’s he’s had his chance for Many many seasons and he’s failed.

If you remember I stuck up for him against chicken like I’m sticking up for Bergwijn against you.

You need to give a player time before you write them off
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I want him to succeed mate. It’s not like I’m sitting there hoping Bergwijn does s**. Nothing I would love more than for him to come on and bang in a last minute screamer. But, when I’m watching him probing me right time and time again with the stats to back it up too, it’s no wonder I’m frustrated with him. I’m certainly not alone in this either.
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Somebody needs to explain to Bergwijn that if the ball crosses the white line for a goal kick its not a good situation for the attacking team.

When coming in from an angle he is the master of neither crossing or shooting before running out of pitch and when he does actually try to do something positive its so telegraphed that the defender usually ensures that the last touch is off Berg so we don't even get a corner.

posted on 22/3/21

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by MKspur ツ - We remember (U9129)
posted 19 seconds ago
It’s not hate it’s he’s had his chance for Many many seasons and he’s failed.

If you remember I stuck up for him against chicken like I’m sticking up for Bergwijn against you.

You need to give a player time before you write them off
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I want him to succeed mate. It’s not like I’m sitting there hoping Bergwijn does s**. Nothing I would love more than for him to come on and bang in a last minute screamer. But, when I’m watching him probing me right time and time again with the stats to back it up too, it’s no wonder I’m frustrated with him. I’m certainly not alone in this either.
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Somebody needs to explain to Bergwijn that if the ball crosses the white line for a goal kick its not a good situation for the attacking team.

When coming in from an angle he is the master of neither crossing or shooting before running out of pitch and when he does actually try to do something positive its so telegraphed that the defender usually ensures that the last touch is off Berg so we don't even get a corner.
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I know mate and this is my gripe. He proves me right time and time again. His stats are simply not good enough and he doesn’t offer much else on the pitch either. Had a decent start to his Spurs career with the introduction at City, but hasn’t kicked on whatsoever.

posted on 22/3/21

So whats the solution Don? Let him rot on the bench or sell or give him time? I go with with later option. He just needs one goal to give him that push imo.

comment by Edbo (U17933)

posted on 22/3/21

My biggest gripe about Bergwijn is that he often dribbles away from goal with the ball and makes a hell of a lot of passes backwards. I'd prefer him to turn and drive at defences.

posted on 22/3/21

comment by LukaBrasi #RentFree Patience - We never forget (U22178)
posted 16 minutes ago
So whats the solution Don? Let him rot on the bench or sell or give him time? I go with with later option. He just needs one goal to give him that push imo.
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I don’t think he’s good enough mate, but he’s proves me wrong next season then great. He simply hasn’t been good enough this season and 0 goals is p** poor, no excuses.

posted on 22/3/21

Vinicius with a goal per game.

comment by Hengy (U9129)

posted on 5/4/21

Updated for Newcastle - away

Kane x2 goals
Ndombele x1 assist

posted on 5/4/21

Ndombele’s contributions are decent for someone who is/should be an 8. You’d want 5 to 10 goal involvements a season from that position

comment by Hengy (U9129)

posted on 5/4/21

comment by Edinspur - Graham Potter Fan Club (U1109)
posted 29 seconds ago
Ndombele’s contributions are decent for someone who is/should be an 8. You’d want 5 to 10 goal involvements a season from that position
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Yea it’s a good output especially if you include the assist to the assister stat we used to laud modric for.

I would like a few more assists to finish the season with though

comment by Hengy (U9129)

posted on 11/4/21

Updated for Man United - away

Son x1 goal
Lucas x1 assist

comment by Hengy (U9129)

posted on 16/4/21

Updated for Everton - away

Kane x2 goals

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