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posted on 28/9/20

Let's also not forget last season sandy vs Sheffield United, Moura taken out ball blasted at him from two yards hits his arm and goal disallowed, even worse United got the free kick.

Absolute pissss poor.

posted on 28/9/20

Dier knew what he was doing. He did the same thing 2 minutes before and got away with it. He is a clown and cost us 2 points yday.

comment by sandy (U20567)

posted on 28/9/20

comment by LukaBrasi Average Team Fan (U22178)
posted 28 seconds ago
Dier knew what he was doing. He did the same thing 2 minutes before and got away with it. He is a clown and cost us 2 points yday.
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He is hopeless agreed, but no way did he know what he was doing, he had his back to the ball.

posted on 28/9/20

Why don’t Spurs appeal ?

posted on 28/9/20

I agree with Steve Bruce the managers need to combine and have ot out with the FA.

posted on 28/9/20

As a Spurs fan you almost see it coming.

I was chatting to a couple of mates in the week (Utd fans) and I said what a dreadful decision it was to award Southampton the late pen. They laughed and said well at least you were 5-1 up at the time, I said yes but imagine how you'd feel if you were 1 up in injury time and that was given against you?

One week on and here we are!

posted on 28/9/20

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 2 minutes ago
Why don’t Spurs appeal ?
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Appeal what?

posted on 28/9/20

comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Average Team Fan (U22178)
posted 28 seconds ago
Dier knew what he was doing. He did the same thing 2 minutes before and got away with it. He is a clown and cost us 2 points yday.
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He is hopeless agreed, but no way did he know what he was doing, he had his back to the ball.
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His positioning was wrong from the outset. He is a waste of space.

posted on 28/9/20

I love the way are shout for a penalty was not even looked at by VAR.

posted on 28/9/20

Shocking reffing , to think a final could be lost on that decision , hard cheese spurs fans

posted on 28/9/20

I thought our one was bad the Palace one was even worse.

posted on 28/9/20

Sandy - This isn't the rule as it stands. This is a report from tabloid. The rule as it stands can be found at https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct

Can you provide an official document from the lawmakers thay mentions this amendment about not being able to see the ball? The only source seems to he thos news article which has a number of direct quotes, but notably the bit you are relying on is not a direct quote.

The laws are clear, of the arm is deemed to akoe the body unnaturally larger, or if the arm is above the shoulder height, then the distance the ball travels (or any deflections) can be disregarded

posted on 28/9/20

I don't get the "he was facing the other way so he couldn't see" argument. By that logic all 10 outfield players could turn their back and raise their arms into a position that could block a potential shot at goal.

posted on 28/9/20

comment by Troy's Tanguy Tanganga of Tottenham (U6468)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 2 minutes ago
Why don’t Spurs appeal ?
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Appeal what?
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Didn’t a VAR decision get overturned in another game? The next day. Or am I losing the plot? I could swear it did. It was a game changing wrong decision.

posted on 28/9/20

comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Average Team Fan (U22178)
posted 28 seconds ago
Dier knew what he was doing. He did the same thing 2 minutes before and got away with it. He is a clown and cost us 2 points yday.
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He is hopeless agreed, but no way did he know what he was doing, he had his back to the ball.
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Dier is terrible, we all know that and Levy has to hurry the f** up and get a decent centre back in, but that was a shambles of a decision yesterday

posted on 28/9/20

comment by der kloppites Hi, wie geht es dir * (U13373)
posted 21 minutes ago
Shocking reffing , to think a final could be lost on that decision , hard cheese spurs fans
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What should the referee do? He was told that this is the new law. Until the rule is changed, refs will need to enforce it whether they like it or not

posted on 28/9/20

comment by No one better than Mikel Arteta (U21076)
posted 13 minutes ago
I don't get the "he was facing the other way so he couldn't see" argument. By that logic all 10 outfield players could turn their back and raise their arms into a position that could block a potential shot at goal.
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Great point for people that hate common sense.

posted on 28/9/20

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 36 minutes ago
Why don’t Spurs appeal ?
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It's a question a lot of people ask Don...seem they just don't...

posted on 28/9/20

Thought that handball was totally ridiculous BTW

posted on 28/9/20

I'm confused where this hand above shoulder height thing has come from, it literally says on the IFAB website it's handball if:

touches the ball with their hand/arm when:

the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level (unless the player deliberately plays the ball which then touches their hand/arm)

The above offences apply even if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close.

posted on 28/9/20

comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 1 minute ago
I'm confused where this hand above shoulder height thing has come from, it literally says on the IFAB website it's handball if:

touches the ball with their hand/arm when:

the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level (unless the player deliberately plays the ball which then touches their hand/arm)

The above offences apply even if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close.
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Xavi - I'm not sure I understand your point. Can you clarify what you are confused with?

posted on 28/9/20

It seems like this law needs common sense applied and can't really be written into law as any black or white interpretation is either everything is a pen or nothing.

Imo, the word deliberate is the key. It certainly gets tricky when the argument of players deliberately making their body bigger with their arms etc, but I'd rather leave that interpretation to the ref's than this current ruling.

I actually think Doherty's last week was even more ridiculous. It literally hit his arm as he was jockeying the attacker.

posted on 28/9/20

There is nothing in the law which states extra leeway is giving to players who aren't looking, that is one article from the independent, notice no quotes of the law, just the writer saying it. Even if there was, it wouldn't have changed anything considering he had his arm in the air, above his head.

posted on 28/9/20

comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 1 minute ago
I'm confused where this hand above shoulder height thing has come from, it literally says on the IFAB website it's handball if:

touches the ball with their hand/arm when:

the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level (unless the player deliberately plays the ball which then touches their hand/arm)

The above offences apply even if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close.
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Xavi - I'm not sure I understand your point. Can you clarify what you are confused with?
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I think he means he's confused where this idea if you are looking away from the ball comes from.l, since it's not in the law and the Independent have made it up.

posted on 28/9/20

comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 1 minute ago
I'm confused where this hand above shoulder height thing has come from, it literally says on the IFAB website it's handball if:

touches the ball with their hand/arm when:

the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level (unless the player deliberately plays the ball which then touches their hand/arm)

The above offences apply even if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close.
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Xavi - I'm not sure I understand your point. Can you clarify what you are confused with?
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Yeah sorry I meant when not facing, it was too early

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