comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 1 minute ago
Extra leeway will be permitted when it comes to ricocheted handballs when it comes off a nearby player of if they cannot see the ball.
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Even if that part is true, can't find it on IFAB website, wouldn't a ricochet mean if it takes a deflection and then hits the arm?
A player heading it towards goal doesn't strike me as something that would be classed as a ricochet.
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You have not read the last bit, which says if a player cannot see the ball. And Dier had his back to the ball. Last week Spurs had a ricochet, which also led to a penalty, again it was wrongly given according to the rules. You cannot pick and choose which bits of the rules you want fella.
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What? The line you quoted states leeway is given if they cannot see the ball when it comes to ricochet handballs. It doesn't say anytime a player can't see the ball.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 9 minutes ago
sandy (U20567)
Yeh, I saw that - just haven't seen it in any official document.
This is part of the problem... we don't know what guidance has been given to refs - the whole thing is a mess.
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That was off an official IFAB document, that implemented the new handball rule. So it is about as official as it gets.
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Where's the document?
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I don`t need to go to the document, you can do that yourself, if you are that bothered. I am just quoting the important part. I am sure you can find it if you want it Winston, you sound like a reasonably intelligent fella.
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Okay sandy, no need to be shirty with me.
I have looked and I can't find it.
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https://resources.fifa.com/image/upload/ifab-laws-of-the-game-2020-21.pdf?cloudid=d6g1
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Phenom- least knowledgeable spurs poster 2019/20 (U20037)
posted 29 minutes ago
the ref has to give it because of the law.
however there were two instances were ball crossed into to Newcastles box seems to hit the arms of their players but these were never further investigated for penalties.
worst thing about the penalty was the farcical decision the ref gave to award them the free kick that led to the penalty. The cant was looking the other way as well.
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The law says if you cannot see the ball (and Dier had his back to the ball, so clearly could not see it), so he should have not given it. End of discussion. The ref fecked up big time. When he looked at the moniter, he could have easily said no penalty. He chose to not know the rule properly and just go along with VAR.
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Is there a link to the law with that part, sandy?
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I took this off a football website:
IFAB have amended the handball law to ensure an accidental handball will only be punished if it occurs “immediately" before a goal is scored.
“It is not an offence if, after an accidental handball, the ball travels some distance (pass or dribble) and/or there are several passes before the goal or goal-scoring opportunity," read a statement from IFAB.
The handball rule was clarified last season to state that any goal scored or created with the use of the hand or arm will be disallowed – even if it is accidental. It does not consider intent by a player.
If the ball hits a player who has made their body “unnaturally bigger" then a foul will be awarded. IFAB determine that a hand/arm above shoulder height is rarely a “natural position" with some exceptions such as when a player is falling permitted.
IFAB says that having the hand/arm above shoulder height is rarely a “natural" position and a player is “taking a risk" by having the hand/arm in that position.
Extra leeway will be permitted when it comes to ricocheted handballs when it comes off a nearby player of if they cannot see the ball.
The last paragraph is very, very, very important in the context of yesterday`s shambles, especially the last few words, where it says if a player cannot see the ball, which Dier clearly could not as it was behind him.
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No you took that from the independent article. Word for word. Notice the parts in quotes and your part has no quotes.
The more I watch it the more I am sure Dier knows what he is doing. Had it been Aurier, Carra would have been on him like a rash.
https://twitter.com/tomwfootball/status/1310492529507348481?s=19
Watch it again. It's blantant hand ball by Dier. What a mug.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Good luck in your interview, TOOR.
Will you tell them that you need 3 hours a day 'personal time' in order to defend VAR on a football forum?
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Nope as I don't! I don't use the website during working hours, only when I stop for a break. Although in one job in the past I literally did one hour work and seven hours on the site! I'll not mention it, of course.
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Only joking - all the best with it.
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Not getting my hopes up. I'm awful at interviews, as I get too nervous and start talking before I work out my answer. Although with this one being a Google Hangout interview it might be easier.
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I’d say I’m overall quite good in interviews. Though on occasion I sometimes will try to blag an answer and it’s obvious I’m bullshitttting
Got to a third stage interview the other week but didn’t get it
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 9 minutes ago
sandy (U20567)
Yeh, I saw that - just haven't seen it in any official document.
This is part of the problem... we don't know what guidance has been given to refs - the whole thing is a mess.
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That was off an official IFAB document, that implemented the new handball rule. So it is about as official as it gets.
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Where's the document?
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I don`t need to go to the document, you can do that yourself, if you are that bothered. I am just quoting the important part. I am sure you can find it if you want it Winston, you sound like a reasonably intelligent fella.
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Okay sandy, no need to be shirty with me.
I have looked and I can't find it.
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https://resources.fifa.com/image/upload/ifab-laws-of-the-game-2020-21.pdf?cloudid=d6g1
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Doesn't work mate
comment by Sir Tottenham of Hotspur (U17379)
posted 21 minutes ago
Faacking gooooners and scousers coming on here defending it, watch them whine like little biiiitches when it happens to them the snivelling hypocrites
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At the end of the day, Spurs should have killed that game off in the first 20 mins, they didn't, gave Newcastle that bit of hope right til the end, and as we have seen time and time again, you can get bitten in the a$$.
The IBAF rules state the same as the FA rules:
It is handball when:
touches the ball with their hand/arm when:
the hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger
the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level (unless the player deliberately plays the ball which then touches their hand/arm)
The above offences apply even if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close.
Diers arm was above shoulder height, easy call.
By the letter of the law and how it has changed then I'd say it was a penalty, but it's the law that is wrong more than what it is the referee's. They are doing their job at the end of the day. I think most people know that it was a very harsh decision, but that's the nature of the law. Although having said that, I do remember the argument from years ago that handball should be given as a foul, regardless of if its harsh or not. It makes life easier for the referee's, although that was before VAR was introduced and all these touchline monitors.
Although I don't agree that you should purposely miss a penalty or let the opposition score. Leeds' scenario was a lack of sportsmanship from the players on the field at the time, yesterday was a controversial decision that wen in favour of Newcastle, its not the players' fault that the referee gave it.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 9 minutes ago
sandy (U20567)
Yeh, I saw that - just haven't seen it in any official document.
This is part of the problem... we don't know what guidance has been given to refs - the whole thing is a mess.
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That was off an official IFAB document, that implemented the new handball rule. So it is about as official as it gets.
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Where's the document?
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I don`t need to go to the document, you can do that yourself, if you are that bothered. I am just quoting the important part. I am sure you can find it if you want it Winston, you sound like a reasonably intelligent fella.
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Okay sandy, no need to be shirty with me.
I have looked and I can't find it.
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https://resources.fifa.com/image/upload/ifab-laws-of-the-game-2020-21.pdf?cloudid=d6g1
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Doesn't work mate
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Bit like their rules.
Try the second one.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 14 minutes ago
The IBAF rules state the same as the FA rules:
It is handball when:
touches the ball with their hand/arm when:
the hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger
the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level (unless the player deliberately plays the ball which then touches their hand/arm)
The above offences apply even if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close.
Diers arm was above shoulder height, easy call.
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You are so wrong
comment by Sir Tottenham of Hotspur (U17379)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
Oh right so let’s defend the referee because he was just “doing his job” NO!! he is in charge and if more refs had the balls to not give the pens and when the FA says why not they all just say “well it’s bollllox that’s why “ then watch the rule change sharpish
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They’d just get replaced.
You cannot honestly believe a referee has the power to dictate to the FA and the IFAB the laws of the game can you?
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
comment by Sir Tottenham of Hotspur (U17379)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
Oh right so let’s defend the referee because he was just “doing his job” NO!! he is in charge and if more refs had the balls to not give the pens and when the FA says why not they all just say “well it’s bollllox that’s why “ then watch the rule change sharpish
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They’d just get replaced.
You cannot honestly believe a referee has the power to dictate to the FA and the IFAB the laws of the game can you?
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What you think they can instantly replace well trained and experienced referees, don’t talk shiiit
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
What am I wrong about?
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If you don’t know then seriously, give up on football mate because you are utterly clueless
comment by Sir Tottenham of Hotspur (U17379)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
What am I wrong about?
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If you don’t know then seriously, give up on football mate because you are utterly clueless
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So nothing then
I’m talking shiiiit? You’re the one thinking referees can force changes to the laws of the game.
Players could morally just roll the penalty back at the keeper if they don't like the rule. Would get lots of plaudits for it
How are people so thick that they are justifying a decision where the OPPOSING manager himself has said is ridiculous and stupid. Clowns.
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 9 hours, 55 minutes ago
I’m talking shiiiit? You’re the one thinking referees can force changes to the laws of the game.
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Yes you're a nonce. If referee doesn't give that penalty nobody would be complaining.
That has nothing to do with referees refusing to adhere to the laws of the game and forcing the FA and IFAB to change them, you nonce.
I would complain. The laws of the game say that was a penalty.
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 31 minutes ago
That has nothing to do with referees refusing to adhere to the laws of the game and forcing the FA and IFAB to change them, you nonce.
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It wouldnt need a change if common sense was applied by referees. He didnt need to give that.
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posted on 28/9/20
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 1 minute ago
Extra leeway will be permitted when it comes to ricocheted handballs when it comes off a nearby player of if they cannot see the ball.
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Even if that part is true, can't find it on IFAB website, wouldn't a ricochet mean if it takes a deflection and then hits the arm?
A player heading it towards goal doesn't strike me as something that would be classed as a ricochet.
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You have not read the last bit, which says if a player cannot see the ball. And Dier had his back to the ball. Last week Spurs had a ricochet, which also led to a penalty, again it was wrongly given according to the rules. You cannot pick and choose which bits of the rules you want fella.
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What? The line you quoted states leeway is given if they cannot see the ball when it comes to ricochet handballs. It doesn't say anytime a player can't see the ball.
posted on 28/9/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 9 minutes ago
sandy (U20567)
Yeh, I saw that - just haven't seen it in any official document.
This is part of the problem... we don't know what guidance has been given to refs - the whole thing is a mess.
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That was off an official IFAB document, that implemented the new handball rule. So it is about as official as it gets.
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Where's the document?
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I don`t need to go to the document, you can do that yourself, if you are that bothered. I am just quoting the important part. I am sure you can find it if you want it Winston, you sound like a reasonably intelligent fella.
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Okay sandy, no need to be shirty with me.
I have looked and I can't find it.
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https://resources.fifa.com/image/upload/ifab-laws-of-the-game-2020-21.pdf?cloudid=d6g1
posted on 28/9/20
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Phenom- least knowledgeable spurs poster 2019/20 (U20037)
posted 29 minutes ago
the ref has to give it because of the law.
however there were two instances were ball crossed into to Newcastles box seems to hit the arms of their players but these were never further investigated for penalties.
worst thing about the penalty was the farcical decision the ref gave to award them the free kick that led to the penalty. The cant was looking the other way as well.
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The law says if you cannot see the ball (and Dier had his back to the ball, so clearly could not see it), so he should have not given it. End of discussion. The ref fecked up big time. When he looked at the moniter, he could have easily said no penalty. He chose to not know the rule properly and just go along with VAR.
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Is there a link to the law with that part, sandy?
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I took this off a football website:
IFAB have amended the handball law to ensure an accidental handball will only be punished if it occurs “immediately" before a goal is scored.
“It is not an offence if, after an accidental handball, the ball travels some distance (pass or dribble) and/or there are several passes before the goal or goal-scoring opportunity," read a statement from IFAB.
The handball rule was clarified last season to state that any goal scored or created with the use of the hand or arm will be disallowed – even if it is accidental. It does not consider intent by a player.
If the ball hits a player who has made their body “unnaturally bigger" then a foul will be awarded. IFAB determine that a hand/arm above shoulder height is rarely a “natural position" with some exceptions such as when a player is falling permitted.
IFAB says that having the hand/arm above shoulder height is rarely a “natural" position and a player is “taking a risk" by having the hand/arm in that position.
Extra leeway will be permitted when it comes to ricocheted handballs when it comes off a nearby player of if they cannot see the ball.
The last paragraph is very, very, very important in the context of yesterday`s shambles, especially the last few words, where it says if a player cannot see the ball, which Dier clearly could not as it was behind him.
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No you took that from the independent article. Word for word. Notice the parts in quotes and your part has no quotes.
posted on 28/9/20
https://www.theifab.com/
posted on 28/9/20
The more I watch it the more I am sure Dier knows what he is doing. Had it been Aurier, Carra would have been on him like a rash.
https://twitter.com/tomwfootball/status/1310492529507348481?s=19
Watch it again. It's blantant hand ball by Dier. What a mug.
posted on 28/9/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Good luck in your interview, TOOR.
Will you tell them that you need 3 hours a day 'personal time' in order to defend VAR on a football forum?
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Nope as I don't! I don't use the website during working hours, only when I stop for a break. Although in one job in the past I literally did one hour work and seven hours on the site! I'll not mention it, of course.
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Only joking - all the best with it.
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Not getting my hopes up. I'm awful at interviews, as I get too nervous and start talking before I work out my answer. Although with this one being a Google Hangout interview it might be easier.
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I’d say I’m overall quite good in interviews. Though on occasion I sometimes will try to blag an answer and it’s obvious I’m bullshitttting
Got to a third stage interview the other week but didn’t get it
posted on 28/9/20
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 9 minutes ago
sandy (U20567)
Yeh, I saw that - just haven't seen it in any official document.
This is part of the problem... we don't know what guidance has been given to refs - the whole thing is a mess.
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That was off an official IFAB document, that implemented the new handball rule. So it is about as official as it gets.
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Where's the document?
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I don`t need to go to the document, you can do that yourself, if you are that bothered. I am just quoting the important part. I am sure you can find it if you want it Winston, you sound like a reasonably intelligent fella.
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Okay sandy, no need to be shirty with me.
I have looked and I can't find it.
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https://resources.fifa.com/image/upload/ifab-laws-of-the-game-2020-21.pdf?cloudid=d6g1
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Doesn't work mate
posted on 28/9/20
comment by Sir Tottenham of Hotspur (U17379)
posted 21 minutes ago
Faacking gooooners and scousers coming on here defending it, watch them whine like little biiiitches when it happens to them the snivelling hypocrites
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At the end of the day, Spurs should have killed that game off in the first 20 mins, they didn't, gave Newcastle that bit of hope right til the end, and as we have seen time and time again, you can get bitten in the a$$.
posted on 28/9/20
The IBAF rules state the same as the FA rules:
It is handball when:
touches the ball with their hand/arm when:
the hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger
the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level (unless the player deliberately plays the ball which then touches their hand/arm)
The above offences apply even if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close.
Diers arm was above shoulder height, easy call.
posted on 28/9/20
By the letter of the law and how it has changed then I'd say it was a penalty, but it's the law that is wrong more than what it is the referee's. They are doing their job at the end of the day. I think most people know that it was a very harsh decision, but that's the nature of the law. Although having said that, I do remember the argument from years ago that handball should be given as a foul, regardless of if its harsh or not. It makes life easier for the referee's, although that was before VAR was introduced and all these touchline monitors.
Although I don't agree that you should purposely miss a penalty or let the opposition score. Leeds' scenario was a lack of sportsmanship from the players on the field at the time, yesterday was a controversial decision that wen in favour of Newcastle, its not the players' fault that the referee gave it.
posted on 28/9/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 9 minutes ago
sandy (U20567)
Yeh, I saw that - just haven't seen it in any official document.
This is part of the problem... we don't know what guidance has been given to refs - the whole thing is a mess.
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That was off an official IFAB document, that implemented the new handball rule. So it is about as official as it gets.
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Where's the document?
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I don`t need to go to the document, you can do that yourself, if you are that bothered. I am just quoting the important part. I am sure you can find it if you want it Winston, you sound like a reasonably intelligent fella.
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Okay sandy, no need to be shirty with me.
I have looked and I can't find it.
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https://resources.fifa.com/image/upload/ifab-laws-of-the-game-2020-21.pdf?cloudid=d6g1
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Doesn't work mate
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Bit like their rules.
Try the second one.
posted on 28/9/20
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 14 minutes ago
The IBAF rules state the same as the FA rules:
It is handball when:
touches the ball with their hand/arm when:
the hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger
the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level (unless the player deliberately plays the ball which then touches their hand/arm)
The above offences apply even if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close.
Diers arm was above shoulder height, easy call.
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You are so wrong
posted on 28/9/20
What am I wrong about?
posted on 28/9/20
comment by Sir Tottenham of Hotspur (U17379)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
Oh right so let’s defend the referee because he was just “doing his job” NO!! he is in charge and if more refs had the balls to not give the pens and when the FA says why not they all just say “well it’s bollllox that’s why “ then watch the rule change sharpish
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They’d just get replaced.
You cannot honestly believe a referee has the power to dictate to the FA and the IFAB the laws of the game can you?
posted on 28/9/20
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
comment by Sir Tottenham of Hotspur (U17379)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
Oh right so let’s defend the referee because he was just “doing his job” NO!! he is in charge and if more refs had the balls to not give the pens and when the FA says why not they all just say “well it’s bollllox that’s why “ then watch the rule change sharpish
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They’d just get replaced.
You cannot honestly believe a referee has the power to dictate to the FA and the IFAB the laws of the game can you?
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What you think they can instantly replace well trained and experienced referees, don’t talk shiiit
posted on 28/9/20
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
What am I wrong about?
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If you don’t know then seriously, give up on football mate because you are utterly clueless
posted on 28/9/20
comment by Sir Tottenham of Hotspur (U17379)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
What am I wrong about?
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If you don’t know then seriously, give up on football mate because you are utterly clueless
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So nothing then
posted on 28/9/20
I’m talking shiiiit? You’re the one thinking referees can force changes to the laws of the game.
posted on 28/9/20
oh sir TH
posted on 28/9/20
Players could morally just roll the penalty back at the keeper if they don't like the rule. Would get lots of plaudits for it
posted on 28/9/20
How are people so thick that they are justifying a decision where the OPPOSING manager himself has said is ridiculous and stupid. Clowns.
posted on 28/9/20
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 9 hours, 55 minutes ago
I’m talking shiiiit? You’re the one thinking referees can force changes to the laws of the game.
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Yes you're a nonce. If referee doesn't give that penalty nobody would be complaining.
posted on 28/9/20
That has nothing to do with referees refusing to adhere to the laws of the game and forcing the FA and IFAB to change them, you nonce.
posted on 28/9/20
I would complain. The laws of the game say that was a penalty.
posted on 29/9/20
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 31 minutes ago
That has nothing to do with referees refusing to adhere to the laws of the game and forcing the FA and IFAB to change them, you nonce.
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It wouldnt need a change if common sense was applied by referees. He didnt need to give that.
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