That one-star rating is a real kick in the teeth after I poured my heart and soul into the OP.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 14 minutes ago
That one-star rating is a real kick in the teeth after I poured my heart and soul into the OP.
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I had this one challenging matth for the 606 Pulitzer award too....
Thanks Baz, that means a lot coming from you
The 1 star is probably from RDD, our self appointed moderator of football gossip
Have 5 from me red
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 minutes ago
Thanks Baz, that means a lot coming from you
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I’ve also added 5 stars, got to rise above the rdd’s of the world..
Just read something that cites a L'Equipe article, which tries to shed light on Dembele's injury woes. He was fine before he went to Barcelona. A slight suggestion that Barca got his training wrong, but overall it's not particularly encouraging if one was hoping his problems are behind him. The same article mentions lifestyle issues of late nights and junk food, although there's a suggestion he has mended his ways (and of course late nights and junk food isn't cigarettes and grannies).
Here are the key paragraphs about the hamstring issues:
"This has led L’Equipe to highlight Barcelona’s training methods as the reasons for his injuries.
Data retrieved from Dembélé’s GPS monitor by the Aspetar Clinic in Doha, where the player has previously been treated, revealed something important. In training, only 20% of the time he is involved in plays was spent sprinting, while in matches that figure rose to a staggering 90%, which could suggest that the demands in games are beyond him.
In that sense, it is argued in the L’Equipe report that Dembélé's sprinter-type profile is not compatible with Barcelona’s training methods, meaning when the demand significantly increases on him to sprint in matches he is more prone to injuries.
Speaking to L’Equipe, Michel Troin, the current assistant to Philippe Montanier at Monaco, who previously worked with Dembélé at Rennes, explained that: “There are club cultures that do not match the needs of the players they recruit.” The report also cites the case of Frenkie de Jong, who, after moving from Ajax to Barcelona, had to hire a personal trainer during his first week to help him cope with the extra workload.
L’Equipe claim that a representative from Barcelona recognised that the club was responsible for Dembélé’s chain of injures but the Catalan outfit were not prepared to admit blame publically. The French newspaper reports that a Barça executive even contacted his counterpart in Dortmund to try to understand the reasons why Dembélé had no muscle problems while in Germany.
The report ends with more statements from Michel Torin, in which he blames Barcelona for his current injuries woes: “Ousmane is not responsible for his situation. He is the victim of a precocious talent. At Rennes we had huge pressure on training and matches, only we didn't kill him.
“If you see the photos, his bone development had not finished; he still had growing to do. There was a rush to make him play because he is a phenomenon and now he is paying for it.”
He looked mint at Dortmund, bit like sancho. Maybe ole could get him going?
comment by Ole-dirty-baztard (U19119)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 minutes ago
Thanks Baz, that means a lot coming from you
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I’ve also added 5 stars, got to rise above the rdd’s of the world..
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Ha! I filtered RDD because life is too short to waste a few seconds a week engaging with him.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Ole-dirty-baztard (U19119)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 minutes ago
Thanks Baz, that means a lot coming from you
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I’ve also added 5 stars, got to rise above the rdd’s of the world..
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Ha! I filtered RDD because life is too short to waste a few days a week answering the same question over and over..
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Fixed that RR
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 10 minutes ago
Just read something that cites a L'Equipe article, which tries to shed light on Dembele's injury woes. He was fine before he went to Barcelona. A slight suggestion that Barca got his training wrong, but overall it's not particularly encouraging if one was hoping his problems are behind him. The same article mentions lifestyle issues of late nights and junk food, although there's a suggestion he has mended his ways (and of course late nights and junk food isn't cigarettes and grannies).
Here are the key paragraphs about the hamstring issues:
"This has led L’Equipe to highlight Barcelona’s training methods as the reasons for his injuries.
Data retrieved from Dembélé’s GPS monitor by the Aspetar Clinic in Doha, where the player has previously been treated, revealed something important. In training, only 20% of the time he is involved in plays was spent sprinting, while in matches that figure rose to a staggering 90%, which could suggest that the demands in games are beyond him.
In that sense, it is argued in the L’Equipe report that Dembélé's sprinter-type profile is not compatible with Barcelona’s training methods, meaning when the demand significantly increases on him to sprint in matches he is more prone to injuries.
Speaking to L’Equipe, Michel Troin, the current assistant to Philippe Montanier at Monaco, who previously worked with Dembélé at Rennes, explained that: “There are club cultures that do not match the needs of the players they recruit.” The report also cites the case of Frenkie de Jong, who, after moving from Ajax to Barcelona, had to hire a personal trainer during his first week to help him cope with the extra workload.
L’Equipe claim that a representative from Barcelona recognised that the club was responsible for Dembélé’s chain of injures but the Catalan outfit were not prepared to admit blame publically. The French newspaper reports that a Barça executive even contacted his counterpart in Dortmund to try to understand the reasons why Dembélé had no muscle problems while in Germany.
The report ends with more statements from Michel Torin, in which he blames Barcelona for his current injuries woes: “Ousmane is not responsible for his situation. He is the victim of a precocious talent. At Rennes we had huge pressure on training and matches, only we didn't kill him.
“If you see the photos, his bone development had not finished; he still had growing to do. There was a rush to make him play because he is a phenomenon and now he is paying for it.”
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He'll be right at United. A loan of Giggs' leggings and a bit of yoga and he'll be good as new.
I very rarely use the filter button, ODB. I'm happy to co-exist with wums, the aggressively stupid and people whose values I fundamentally disagree with. (So I'm fine with you - mwahaha.) The thing about RDD is that his intention isn't to wind up, isn't to obsessively defend a particular point of view, but to troll. He engages in bad faith. No time for that.
P.S. I have to make a confession. Speaking of the aggressively stupid, it took me about two years to notice the 'Ole' pun in your name. (I've always been a bit of a Wu-Tang fan.)
I agree with the consensus that Dembele looks too big a risk.
But wouldn't it be nice if one day we were the club who bought a player at a knock-down price and he emerged as a world-class performer, rather than being the club who paid for world-class players and got knock-down performances?
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
I agree with the consensus that Dembele looks too big a risk.
But wouldn't it be nice if one day we were the club who bought a player at a knock-down price and he emerged as a world-class performer, rather than being the club who paid for world-class players and got knock-down performances?
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Brings us back to the conversation about our owners and Woodward who continue to persist with thier tried and failed methods.
60m a knockdown price 😂
But I get what you mean.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 11 minutes ago
I very rarely use the filter button, ODB. I'm happy to co-exist with wums, the aggressively stupid and people whose values I fundamentally disagree with. (So I'm fine with you - mwahaha.) The thing about RDD is that his intention isn't to wind up, isn't to obsessively defend a particular point of view, but to troll. He engages in bad faith. No time for that.
P.S. I have to make a confession. Speaking of the aggressively stupid, it took me about two years to notice the 'Ole' pun in your name. (I've always been a bit of a Wu-Tang fan.)
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I think that the board had it right when we mass-filtered the nugget. I do wonder what kind of life you have to have to seek attention in such a manner. Weird.
i was momentarily excited imagining a terrace chant to the tune of the lion sleeps tonight, but seems that there is already a benteke one.
on that basis, it's a no from me.
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 3 minutes ago
i was momentarily excited imagining a terrace chant to the tune of the lion sleeps tonight, but seems that there is already a benteke one.
on that basis, it's a no from me.
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Thanks for showing your workings. I can find no fault in them.
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 9 minutes ago
i was momentarily excited imagining a terrace chant to the tune of the lion sleeps tonight, but seems that there is already a benteke one.
on that basis, it's a no from me.
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Flawless Logic here.
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 18 minutes ago
i was momentarily excited imagining a terrace chant to the tune of the lion sleeps tonight, but seems that there is already a benteke one.
on that basis, it's a no from me.
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Not sure on the benteke one, but we definitely had a mignolet one to that tune when he joined
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 18 minutes ago
i was momentarily excited imagining a terrace chant to the tune of the lion sleeps tonight, but seems that there is already a benteke one.
on that basis, it's a no from me.
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Not sure on the benteke one, but we definitely had a mignolet one to that tune when he joined
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annoyingly that would work even better than for dembele. and i thought i was the first person IN THE WHOLE WORLD to think of this. off back to bed.
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
A generational talent.
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Yes. He generates a lot of work for the physios.
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posted on 30/9/20
That one-star rating is a real kick in the teeth after I poured my heart and soul into the OP.
posted on 30/9/20
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 14 minutes ago
That one-star rating is a real kick in the teeth after I poured my heart and soul into the OP.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I had this one challenging matth for the 606 Pulitzer award too....
posted on 30/9/20
Thanks Baz, that means a lot coming from you
posted on 30/9/20
The 1 star is probably from RDD, our self appointed moderator of football gossip
Have 5 from me red
posted on 30/9/20
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 minutes ago
Thanks Baz, that means a lot coming from you
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I’ve also added 5 stars, got to rise above the rdd’s of the world..
posted on 30/9/20
Just read something that cites a L'Equipe article, which tries to shed light on Dembele's injury woes. He was fine before he went to Barcelona. A slight suggestion that Barca got his training wrong, but overall it's not particularly encouraging if one was hoping his problems are behind him. The same article mentions lifestyle issues of late nights and junk food, although there's a suggestion he has mended his ways (and of course late nights and junk food isn't cigarettes and grannies).
Here are the key paragraphs about the hamstring issues:
"This has led L’Equipe to highlight Barcelona’s training methods as the reasons for his injuries.
Data retrieved from Dembélé’s GPS monitor by the Aspetar Clinic in Doha, where the player has previously been treated, revealed something important. In training, only 20% of the time he is involved in plays was spent sprinting, while in matches that figure rose to a staggering 90%, which could suggest that the demands in games are beyond him.
In that sense, it is argued in the L’Equipe report that Dembélé's sprinter-type profile is not compatible with Barcelona’s training methods, meaning when the demand significantly increases on him to sprint in matches he is more prone to injuries.
Speaking to L’Equipe, Michel Troin, the current assistant to Philippe Montanier at Monaco, who previously worked with Dembélé at Rennes, explained that: “There are club cultures that do not match the needs of the players they recruit.” The report also cites the case of Frenkie de Jong, who, after moving from Ajax to Barcelona, had to hire a personal trainer during his first week to help him cope with the extra workload.
L’Equipe claim that a representative from Barcelona recognised that the club was responsible for Dembélé’s chain of injures but the Catalan outfit were not prepared to admit blame publically. The French newspaper reports that a Barça executive even contacted his counterpart in Dortmund to try to understand the reasons why Dembélé had no muscle problems while in Germany.
The report ends with more statements from Michel Torin, in which he blames Barcelona for his current injuries woes: “Ousmane is not responsible for his situation. He is the victim of a precocious talent. At Rennes we had huge pressure on training and matches, only we didn't kill him.
“If you see the photos, his bone development had not finished; he still had growing to do. There was a rush to make him play because he is a phenomenon and now he is paying for it.”
posted on 30/9/20
He looked mint at Dortmund, bit like sancho. Maybe ole could get him going?
posted on 30/9/20
comment by Ole-dirty-baztard (U19119)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 minutes ago
Thanks Baz, that means a lot coming from you
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I’ve also added 5 stars, got to rise above the rdd’s of the world..
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Ha! I filtered RDD because life is too short to waste a few seconds a week engaging with him.
posted on 30/9/20
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Ole-dirty-baztard (U19119)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 minutes ago
Thanks Baz, that means a lot coming from you
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I’ve also added 5 stars, got to rise above the rdd’s of the world..
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Ha! I filtered RDD because life is too short to waste a few days a week answering the same question over and over..
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Fixed that RR
posted on 30/9/20
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 10 minutes ago
Just read something that cites a L'Equipe article, which tries to shed light on Dembele's injury woes. He was fine before he went to Barcelona. A slight suggestion that Barca got his training wrong, but overall it's not particularly encouraging if one was hoping his problems are behind him. The same article mentions lifestyle issues of late nights and junk food, although there's a suggestion he has mended his ways (and of course late nights and junk food isn't cigarettes and grannies).
Here are the key paragraphs about the hamstring issues:
"This has led L’Equipe to highlight Barcelona’s training methods as the reasons for his injuries.
Data retrieved from Dembélé’s GPS monitor by the Aspetar Clinic in Doha, where the player has previously been treated, revealed something important. In training, only 20% of the time he is involved in plays was spent sprinting, while in matches that figure rose to a staggering 90%, which could suggest that the demands in games are beyond him.
In that sense, it is argued in the L’Equipe report that Dembélé's sprinter-type profile is not compatible with Barcelona’s training methods, meaning when the demand significantly increases on him to sprint in matches he is more prone to injuries.
Speaking to L’Equipe, Michel Troin, the current assistant to Philippe Montanier at Monaco, who previously worked with Dembélé at Rennes, explained that: “There are club cultures that do not match the needs of the players they recruit.” The report also cites the case of Frenkie de Jong, who, after moving from Ajax to Barcelona, had to hire a personal trainer during his first week to help him cope with the extra workload.
L’Equipe claim that a representative from Barcelona recognised that the club was responsible for Dembélé’s chain of injures but the Catalan outfit were not prepared to admit blame publically. The French newspaper reports that a Barça executive even contacted his counterpart in Dortmund to try to understand the reasons why Dembélé had no muscle problems while in Germany.
The report ends with more statements from Michel Torin, in which he blames Barcelona for his current injuries woes: “Ousmane is not responsible for his situation. He is the victim of a precocious talent. At Rennes we had huge pressure on training and matches, only we didn't kill him.
“If you see the photos, his bone development had not finished; he still had growing to do. There was a rush to make him play because he is a phenomenon and now he is paying for it.”
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He'll be right at United. A loan of Giggs' leggings and a bit of yoga and he'll be good as new.
posted on 30/9/20
I very rarely use the filter button, ODB. I'm happy to co-exist with wums, the aggressively stupid and people whose values I fundamentally disagree with. (So I'm fine with you - mwahaha.) The thing about RDD is that his intention isn't to wind up, isn't to obsessively defend a particular point of view, but to troll. He engages in bad faith. No time for that.
P.S. I have to make a confession. Speaking of the aggressively stupid, it took me about two years to notice the 'Ole' pun in your name. (I've always been a bit of a Wu-Tang fan.)
posted on 30/9/20
I agree with the consensus that Dembele looks too big a risk.
But wouldn't it be nice if one day we were the club who bought a player at a knock-down price and he emerged as a world-class performer, rather than being the club who paid for world-class players and got knock-down performances?
posted on 30/9/20
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
I agree with the consensus that Dembele looks too big a risk.
But wouldn't it be nice if one day we were the club who bought a player at a knock-down price and he emerged as a world-class performer, rather than being the club who paid for world-class players and got knock-down performances?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Brings us back to the conversation about our owners and Woodward who continue to persist with thier tried and failed methods.
posted on 30/9/20
60m a knockdown price 😂
But I get what you mean.
posted on 30/9/20
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 11 minutes ago
I very rarely use the filter button, ODB. I'm happy to co-exist with wums, the aggressively stupid and people whose values I fundamentally disagree with. (So I'm fine with you - mwahaha.) The thing about RDD is that his intention isn't to wind up, isn't to obsessively defend a particular point of view, but to troll. He engages in bad faith. No time for that.
P.S. I have to make a confession. Speaking of the aggressively stupid, it took me about two years to notice the 'Ole' pun in your name. (I've always been a bit of a Wu-Tang fan.)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think that the board had it right when we mass-filtered the nugget. I do wonder what kind of life you have to have to seek attention in such a manner. Weird.
posted on 30/9/20
i was momentarily excited imagining a terrace chant to the tune of the lion sleeps tonight, but seems that there is already a benteke one.
on that basis, it's a no from me.
posted on 30/9/20
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 3 minutes ago
i was momentarily excited imagining a terrace chant to the tune of the lion sleeps tonight, but seems that there is already a benteke one.
on that basis, it's a no from me.
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Thanks for showing your workings. I can find no fault in them.
posted on 30/9/20
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 9 minutes ago
i was momentarily excited imagining a terrace chant to the tune of the lion sleeps tonight, but seems that there is already a benteke one.
on that basis, it's a no from me.
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Flawless Logic here.
posted on 30/9/20
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 18 minutes ago
i was momentarily excited imagining a terrace chant to the tune of the lion sleeps tonight, but seems that there is already a benteke one.
on that basis, it's a no from me.
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Not sure on the benteke one, but we definitely had a mignolet one to that tune when he joined
posted on 30/9/20
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 18 minutes ago
i was momentarily excited imagining a terrace chant to the tune of the lion sleeps tonight, but seems that there is already a benteke one.
on that basis, it's a no from me.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not sure on the benteke one, but we definitely had a mignolet one to that tune when he joined
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annoyingly that would work even better than for dembele. and i thought i was the first person IN THE WHOLE WORLD to think of this. off back to bed.
posted on 30/9/20
posted on 30/9/20
A generational talent.
posted on 30/9/20
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
A generational talent.
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Yes. He generates a lot of work for the physios.
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