12Billion spent and they’re running it off an excel spreadsheet.
people should be allowed to live
why should people die so you can go to the pub
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Why would people continue to die and and not receive adequate care because of something that is very unlikely to kill you.
Why not if you're at risk, stay in, if you're not, stimulate the economy, learn to live with this and take precautions where we can.
Is it 5 percent of positive have came from hospitality?
It's a witch hunt and too many are falling for the fear mongering
Sad to see
The money the deloite contractors must have been on! Over 2.3k daily rates I read. Scandalous stuff, I could have built that thing with a few quality developers no problem, in Ireland we built one for just over 700k and its doing a job.
comment by An s&m Lauders (U9757)
posted 12 seconds ago
people should be allowed to live
why should people die so you can go to the pub
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Why would people continue to die and and not receive adequate care because of something that is very unlikely to kill you.
Why not if you're at risk, stay in, if you're not, stimulate the economy, learn to live with this and take precautions where we can.
Is it 5 percent of positive have came from hospitality?
It's a witch hunt and too many are falling for the fear mongering
Sad to see
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Herd Immunity and if they die they die?
What a great f*cking attitude
Imagine if the company that made the app was the same one that wasted 20 billion on labours failed IT system for the NHS 😅
Can any of these clowns run things effectively? Clearly not.
Make no mistake the vast majority of that money has gone to consultant houses, its impossible to spend that amount of money in that period of time for just business analysts and developers / architects, which is all you actually need to build this app.
Phones already have geo tech that tracks movement, they're not inventing that, you can lean on the existing tech apple and androids already provide.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 6 minutes ago
12Billion spent and they’re running it off an excel spreadsheet.
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An outdated version too
If several of the people in charge of this are not fired for gross negligence then you know there's some shady stuff going on, don't expect it to happen of course but heads should roll, a gross over spend, id say if you could follow the money you'd see bungs all over the place.
Especially st a time the UK needs all the cash it can get to help business and people impacted by lockdown and forced business closures.
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comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 40 seconds ago
Well the money is somewhere, so for me its theft pure and simple.
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Absolutely.
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/legal-action-launched-over-missing-three-billion-tories-spent-on-private-coronavirus-contracts/11/10/
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 1 minute ago
Well the money is somewhere, so for me its theft pure and simple.
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Its in deloites pockets, or a good chunk of it anyway.
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 2 minutes ago
Imagine if the company that made the app was the same one that wasted 20 billion on labours failed IT system for the NHS 😅
Can any of these clowns run things effectively? Clearly not.
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Having worked for the NHS and local government, IT always seems to be a major blind spot for public services and underfunded. Never understood why that is given how reliant we are on it now, and how much more reliant we will be in the future.
The NHS still runs on Windows XP ffs 🤦♂️
Local government are a bit better but get glitches on a weekly basis.. been a few times since WFH where I have no network access or I can't get drives to open.
Mental.
Google already tracks your movements unless you specifically turn it off, down to the physical locations you enter. They mail you one a quarter to tell you where you have been. OK there's a bit more tech required besides geo locate but not 12 billions worth.
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 2 minutes ago
Imagine if the company that made the app was the same one that wasted 20 billion on labours failed IT system for the NHS 😅
Can any of these clowns run things effectively? Clearly not.
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Having worked for the NHS and local government, IT always seems to be a major blind spot for public services and underfunded. Never understood why that is given how reliant we are on it now, and how much more reliant we will be in the future.
The NHS still runs on Windows XP ffs 🤦♂️
Local government are a bit better but get glitches on a weekly basis.. been a few times since WFH where I have no network access or I can't get drives to open.
Mental.
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XP! FFS that's an absolute joke, a hackers dream.
UK Gov also paying well over the odds for PPE, to companies that are only a month old and registered in tax havens by Tory party donors or family members, whilst bypassing any tender process.
Seems legit 😒
https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1315910339821817856?s=19
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by An s&m Lauders (U9757)
posted 12 seconds ago
people should be allowed to live
why should people die so you can go to the pub
-------
Why would people continue to die and and not receive adequate care because of something that is very unlikely to kill you.
Why not if you're at risk, stay in, if you're not, stimulate the economy, learn to live with this and take precautions where we can.
Is it 5 percent of positive have came from hospitality?
It's a witch hunt and too many are falling for the fear mongering
Sad to see
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Herd Immunity and if they die they die?
What a great f*cking attitude
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's not what I said.
Corruption plain and simple. Nothing will be done about it. Yet they will bleat on about damage to the economy.
Yet some people still don't see how necessary independence is
There seems to be a narrative that people are only upset because we can't get to the pub.
Of course we're dissappointed we can't go out for a pint or a meal because we're trying to play hidey against a virus that kills less than 1% of the people it infects.
That's not the issue though, the issue is the so called 2nd wave that people are saying is happened right now started when England started pushing people back into offices, when the UK started sending kids back to school with no masks or social distancing and the uni's going back up and down the country.
Now, if anyone, with a straight face, can say that me going to sit in a pub, 1M apart from any other table, in a capacity of 50 across the full venue.
Is more of a risk to the vulnerable than a kid going to school, then heading back home to their parents or grandparents who in turn will meet up outdoors then you can bite my banger because you're talking right out your brown starfish.
The data is clear, the number of infected only began to increase once works, schools and uni's opened. The next 16 days up here aren't going to bring the infections down by any considerable measure, they'll still go up as long as the schools are opening.
If anyone wants to stay indoors, let them, let the rest of us try and get the economy back up and running before we end up having to eat Spam for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
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comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 41 seconds ago
If there is a 2nd full lock down and its heading that direction, not the other way, a good few of my mates who just managed to come out the other side last time will be without a doubt utterly fooked this time.
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So many people will, especially those in the arts and hospitality.
tbh i was just throwing out random sentences to stir debate.
i think pubs should be allowed open with strict table seating and a better way of getting people out rather than everyone out at 10pm
that said, lets not kid ourselves that some people just want everything their own way and are happy for those vulnerable to be the only ones to suffer.
we are in it together, but i don't see anybody moaning that libraries aren't open.
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Politics is THEE greatest gravy train going.
The Tories are laughing their erses off at us.
120 people went to a shooting meet this week, the Meet was granted thousands in grants.
£12Bn for an App that doesn't work?
The 5th richest country in the world - with a thousand foodbanks..?
The PPE scandal?
What happened with the Grenfell inquiry..?
The good news is 78% of Scottish 16-35 year olds would vote for Independence next time, and we can finally leave this utter shambles of a union.
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posted on 13/10/20
12Billion spent and they’re running it off an excel spreadsheet.
posted on 13/10/20
people should be allowed to live
why should people die so you can go to the pub
-------
Why would people continue to die and and not receive adequate care because of something that is very unlikely to kill you.
Why not if you're at risk, stay in, if you're not, stimulate the economy, learn to live with this and take precautions where we can.
Is it 5 percent of positive have came from hospitality?
It's a witch hunt and too many are falling for the fear mongering
Sad to see
posted on 13/10/20
The money the deloite contractors must have been on! Over 2.3k daily rates I read. Scandalous stuff, I could have built that thing with a few quality developers no problem, in Ireland we built one for just over 700k and its doing a job.
posted on 13/10/20
comment by An s&m Lauders (U9757)
posted 12 seconds ago
people should be allowed to live
why should people die so you can go to the pub
-------
Why would people continue to die and and not receive adequate care because of something that is very unlikely to kill you.
Why not if you're at risk, stay in, if you're not, stimulate the economy, learn to live with this and take precautions where we can.
Is it 5 percent of positive have came from hospitality?
It's a witch hunt and too many are falling for the fear mongering
Sad to see
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Herd Immunity and if they die they die?
What a great f*cking attitude
posted on 13/10/20
Imagine if the company that made the app was the same one that wasted 20 billion on labours failed IT system for the NHS 😅
Can any of these clowns run things effectively? Clearly not.
posted on 13/10/20
Make no mistake the vast majority of that money has gone to consultant houses, its impossible to spend that amount of money in that period of time for just business analysts and developers / architects, which is all you actually need to build this app.
Phones already have geo tech that tracks movement, they're not inventing that, you can lean on the existing tech apple and androids already provide.
posted on 13/10/20
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 6 minutes ago
12Billion spent and they’re running it off an excel spreadsheet.
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An outdated version too
posted on 13/10/20
If several of the people in charge of this are not fired for gross negligence then you know there's some shady stuff going on, don't expect it to happen of course but heads should roll, a gross over spend, id say if you could follow the money you'd see bungs all over the place.
Especially st a time the UK needs all the cash it can get to help business and people impacted by lockdown and forced business closures.
posted on 13/10/20
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 13/10/20
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 40 seconds ago
Well the money is somewhere, so for me its theft pure and simple.
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Absolutely.
posted on 13/10/20
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/legal-action-launched-over-missing-three-billion-tories-spent-on-private-coronavirus-contracts/11/10/
posted on 13/10/20
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 1 minute ago
Well the money is somewhere, so for me its theft pure and simple.
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Its in deloites pockets, or a good chunk of it anyway.
posted on 13/10/20
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 2 minutes ago
Imagine if the company that made the app was the same one that wasted 20 billion on labours failed IT system for the NHS 😅
Can any of these clowns run things effectively? Clearly not.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Having worked for the NHS and local government, IT always seems to be a major blind spot for public services and underfunded. Never understood why that is given how reliant we are on it now, and how much more reliant we will be in the future.
The NHS still runs on Windows XP ffs 🤦♂️
Local government are a bit better but get glitches on a weekly basis.. been a few times since WFH where I have no network access or I can't get drives to open.
Mental.
posted on 13/10/20
Google already tracks your movements unless you specifically turn it off, down to the physical locations you enter. They mail you one a quarter to tell you where you have been. OK there's a bit more tech required besides geo locate but not 12 billions worth.
posted on 13/10/20
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 2 minutes ago
Imagine if the company that made the app was the same one that wasted 20 billion on labours failed IT system for the NHS 😅
Can any of these clowns run things effectively? Clearly not.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Having worked for the NHS and local government, IT always seems to be a major blind spot for public services and underfunded. Never understood why that is given how reliant we are on it now, and how much more reliant we will be in the future.
The NHS still runs on Windows XP ffs 🤦♂️
Local government are a bit better but get glitches on a weekly basis.. been a few times since WFH where I have no network access or I can't get drives to open.
Mental.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
XP! FFS that's an absolute joke, a hackers dream.
posted on 13/10/20
UK Gov also paying well over the odds for PPE, to companies that are only a month old and registered in tax havens by Tory party donors or family members, whilst bypassing any tender process.
Seems legit 😒
https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1315910339821817856?s=19
posted on 13/10/20
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by An s&m Lauders (U9757)
posted 12 seconds ago
people should be allowed to live
why should people die so you can go to the pub
-------
Why would people continue to die and and not receive adequate care because of something that is very unlikely to kill you.
Why not if you're at risk, stay in, if you're not, stimulate the economy, learn to live with this and take precautions where we can.
Is it 5 percent of positive have came from hospitality?
It's a witch hunt and too many are falling for the fear mongering
Sad to see
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Herd Immunity and if they die they die?
What a great f*cking attitude
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's not what I said.
posted on 13/10/20
Corruption plain and simple. Nothing will be done about it. Yet they will bleat on about damage to the economy.
Yet some people still don't see how necessary independence is
posted on 13/10/20
There seems to be a narrative that people are only upset because we can't get to the pub.
Of course we're dissappointed we can't go out for a pint or a meal because we're trying to play hidey against a virus that kills less than 1% of the people it infects.
That's not the issue though, the issue is the so called 2nd wave that people are saying is happened right now started when England started pushing people back into offices, when the UK started sending kids back to school with no masks or social distancing and the uni's going back up and down the country.
Now, if anyone, with a straight face, can say that me going to sit in a pub, 1M apart from any other table, in a capacity of 50 across the full venue.
Is more of a risk to the vulnerable than a kid going to school, then heading back home to their parents or grandparents who in turn will meet up outdoors then you can bite my banger because you're talking right out your brown starfish.
The data is clear, the number of infected only began to increase once works, schools and uni's opened. The next 16 days up here aren't going to bring the infections down by any considerable measure, they'll still go up as long as the schools are opening.
If anyone wants to stay indoors, let them, let the rest of us try and get the economy back up and running before we end up having to eat Spam for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
posted on 13/10/20
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 13/10/20
comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 41 seconds ago
If there is a 2nd full lock down and its heading that direction, not the other way, a good few of my mates who just managed to come out the other side last time will be without a doubt utterly fooked this time.
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So many people will, especially those in the arts and hospitality.
posted on 13/10/20
tbh i was just throwing out random sentences to stir debate.
i think pubs should be allowed open with strict table seating and a better way of getting people out rather than everyone out at 10pm
that said, lets not kid ourselves that some people just want everything their own way and are happy for those vulnerable to be the only ones to suffer.
we are in it together, but i don't see anybody moaning that libraries aren't open.
posted on 13/10/20
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 13/10/20
weren't open i mean.
posted on 13/10/20
Politics is THEE greatest gravy train going.
The Tories are laughing their erses off at us.
120 people went to a shooting meet this week, the Meet was granted thousands in grants.
£12Bn for an App that doesn't work?
The 5th richest country in the world - with a thousand foodbanks..?
The PPE scandal?
What happened with the Grenfell inquiry..?
The good news is 78% of Scottish 16-35 year olds would vote for Independence next time, and we can finally leave this utter shambles of a union.
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