Why are we talking like a change of manager is imminent?
Ole deserved this season unless it turns treacherous.
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Why are we talking like a change of manager is imminent?
Ole deserved this season unless it turns treacherous.
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What would constitute treacherous?
Just curious
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comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 3 minutes ago
Why are we talking like a change of manager is imminent?
Ole deserved this season unless it turns treacherous.
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What would constitute treacherous?
Just curious
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Similar to the times when Ole got the job.
I think football has moved on a bit. I used to mention Allegri a lot for Utd, he ticks a lot of boxes, but attacking is the way to go now.
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 8 minutes ago
Why are we talking like a change of manager is imminent?
Ole deserved this season unless it turns treacherous.
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I get where you're coming from but it's because he's odds on favourite to go next in the Prem.
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comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 8 minutes ago
Why are we talking like a change of manager is imminent?
Ole deserved this season unless it turns treacherous.
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I get where you're coming from but it's because he's odds on favourite to go next in the Prem.
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Created by the media I reckon
It’s a bit of both, but most managers will have a preference for how they set up and coach their teams.
I think that with the attacking players we have, Big Sam could come in and have us playing expansive football from the off.
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posted 12 minutes ago
Why are we talking like a change of manager is imminent?
Ole deserved this season unless it turns treacherous.
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I wasn't tbh. Just going by some of the discussions I've seen and thought it would be interesting topic
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comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 18 minutes ago
It’s a bit of both, but most managers will have a preference for how they set up and coach their teams.
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I get that daz. But, to expand a little, take Simeone at athletico what does he expect to achieve with his style? Is he not basically a sam allardyce?
No, he’s more Sean Dyche.
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posted 8 minutes ago
Why are we talking like a change of manager is imminent?
Ole deserved this season unless it turns treacherous.
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I get where you're coming from but it's because he's odds on favourite to go next in the Prem.
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Created by the media I reckon
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It was inevitable with our start and I think if it continues the media will be proved right. Not because they are right currently, for all we know Ole has full backing. But lose a few more and I think UTD maybe forced to look elsewhere and media will shout "we told you so"
They are in a win win situation really. If Ole goes on a run of good results they'll still go with "was on brinkmof getting sacked but results have saved him" etc
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
No, he’s more Sean Dyche.
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Yeah tbf that's a better example but I saw Sam's name in Elvis's comment so went with him.
You get what I mean though?
A certain style to keep a team in a certain position with an almost certainty that they won't beat the top 2 etc without a plan to knock them off their perch is not exactly experience to take over a team wanting to challenge in their league for the top spot
Could an Allegri come and surprise us?
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Doubt it.
There aren't many managers that are that flexible.
Atleti have finished above the top 2 in Spain, though. I think Atleti are limited in many ways by Big Sameone, but they’ve also made some really poor decisions in the transfer market as well - and I don’t know just how much of that is down to him.
Most top managers aren’t going to move too far away from what made them successful, and I don’t think it’s quite simply a matter of choice either, some managers are just better than others at getting their teams to play in a certain way.
Even if he did it, and he never would, I don’t think Pep would have been as successful if he got his teams to play defensive, park the bus football.
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
Atleti have finished above the top 2 in Spain, though. I think Atleti are limited in many ways by Big Sameone, but they’ve also made some really poor decisions in the transfer market as well - and I don’t know just how much of that is down to him.
Most top managers aren’t going to move too far away from what made them successful, and I don’t think it’s quite simply a matter of choice either, some managers are just better than others at getting their teams to play in a certain way.
Even if he did it, and he never would, I don’t think Pep would have been as successful if he got his teams to play defensive, park the bus football.
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Yeah pretty much agree.
Although I find Pep a bit of an anomaly really. I just think what he wants hinders his team some what. A little flexibility and I think he beats liverpool to the top spot, for example.
That said he has the resources to throw money at a position to try and implement his style which for me isn't really management. Making what you have function as part of a collective is management. SAF getting league titles with o'shea and fletch etc was management
But what he wants has proven to be so successful that I’m not sure how much it really hinders. Every single manager will have things that potentially hinder them, but their value is in the consistency of their success.
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Why are we talking like a change of manager is imminent?
Ole deserved this season unless it turns treacherous.
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I get where you're coming from but it's because he's odds on favourite to go next in the Prem.
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Created by the media I reckon
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It was inevitable with our start and I think if it continues the media will be proved right. Not because they are right currently, for all we know Ole has full backing. But lose a few more and I think UTD maybe forced to look elsewhere and media will shout "we told you so"
They are in a win win situation really. If Ole goes on a run of good results they'll still go with "was on brinkmof getting sacked but results have saved him" etc
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I thought the saying ‘any manager is potentially 3 losses from the sack’ was well known. I fully believe Ed doesn’t want to sack Ole as he’s a guy who doesn’t cause waves by kicking off about his hand in public and is loved by the fans but if results don’t improve the pressure will build. No one ‘deserves’ anything in football if you lose games in the manner we are. But his destiny us in his hands and (obviously) good results will keep him in the job. Next few weeks will be massive.
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 41 minutes ago
But what he wants has proven to be so successful that I’m not sure how much it really hinders. Every single manager will have things that potentially hinder them, but their value is in the consistency of their success.
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It's subjective I guess. But for me Pep in the prem has been a disappointment.
On paper he has the squad who should be doing what LFC achieved, ie cl and prem.
For me him losing say kompany shouldn't have had th impact of say if LFC lost mane
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comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 8 minutes ago
Why are we talking like a change of manager is imminent?
Ole deserved this season unless it turns treacherous.
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I get where you're coming from but it's because he's odds on favourite to go next in the Prem.
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Created by the media I reckon
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It was inevitable with our start and I think if it continues the media will be proved right. Not because they are right currently, for all we know Ole has full backing. But lose a few more and I think UTD maybe forced to look elsewhere and media will shout "we told you so"
They are in a win win situation really. If Ole goes on a run of good results they'll still go with "was on brinkmof getting sacked but results have saved him" etc
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I thought the saying ‘any manager is potentially 3 losses from the sack’ was well known. I fully believe Ed doesn’t want to sack Ole as he’s a guy who doesn’t cause waves by kicking off about his hand in public and is loved by the fans but if results don’t improve the pressure will build. No one ‘deserves’ anything in football if you lose games in the manner we are. But his destiny us in his hands and (obviously) good results will keep him in the job. Next few weeks will be massive.
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Evening robb. I think the issue is based on how you lose too somewhat. For me the BHA game, although a win was more telling than the 6-1 defeat to Spurs
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posted 39 minutes ago
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posted 37 minutes ago
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posted 25 minutes ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 8 minutes ago
Why are we talking like a change of manager is imminent?
Ole deserved this season unless it turns treacherous.
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I get where you're coming from but it's because he's odds on favourite to go next in the Prem.
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Created by the media I reckon
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It was inevitable with our start and I think if it continues the media will be proved right. Not because they are right currently, for all we know Ole has full backing. But lose a few more and I think UTD maybe forced to look elsewhere and media will shout "we told you so"
They are in a win win situation really. If Ole goes on a run of good results they'll still go with "was on brinkmof getting sacked but results have saved him" etc
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I thought the saying ‘any manager is potentially 3 losses from the sack’ was well known. I fully believe Ed doesn’t want to sack Ole as he’s a guy who doesn’t cause waves by kicking off about his hand in public and is loved by the fans but if results don’t improve the pressure will build. No one ‘deserves’ anything in football if you lose games in the manner we are. But his destiny us in his hands and (obviously) good results will keep him in the job. Next few weeks will be massive.
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Evening robb. I think the issue is based on how you lose too somewhat. For me the BHA game, although a win was more telling than the 6-1 defeat to Spurs
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Morning. Yeah, I agree, even though at half time we had lost that game to Spurs I would have loved to have seen some fight in the second half but it was arguably worse as there was zero effort or pride. The Brighton game was a warning that we didn’t take notice of and Spurs were more than happy to take advantage of the lack of preparedness.
He’s won two league titles, in very impressive fashion. The CL’s certainly been a disappointment, but I don’t think he has in the prem.
But my point stands, the success far outweighs the failures with how he’s coached his teams. Whatever it is you think is hindering him is almost hindering perfection.
Yeah forgot it's morning where you are.
I agree the heads down and not batoning down was woeful.
But the reason I felt more let down by the BHA game was the fact it was BHA and the ran rings round us. I was happy we won but let's be honest it wasn't deserved.
Spurs on paper are a better team than BHA and we were down to 10. Although I'm not sure having 11 on the pitch would have helped
The BHA game made the spurs one an almost inevitability unless we got our act together. We didn't
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 12 seconds ago
He’s won two league titles, in very impressive fashion. The CL’s certainly been a disappointment, but I don’t think he has in the prem.
But my point stands, the success far outweighs the failures with how he’s coached his teams. Whatever it is you think is hindering him is almost hindering perfection.
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Not necessarily disagreeing with you.
I think it was Henry who scored a great goal and was told off by pep? I get a sort of "express yourself" vibe from Pep but it's a expr as yourself in a way I want you to.
Still think with the money and players bought he should have done better in CL and beat LFC to the title
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posted on 15/10/20
Why are we talking like a change of manager is imminent?
Ole deserved this season unless it turns treacherous.
posted on 15/10/20
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 3 minutes ago
Why are we talking like a change of manager is imminent?
Ole deserved this season unless it turns treacherous.
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What would constitute treacherous?
Just curious
posted on 15/10/20
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 3 minutes ago
Why are we talking like a change of manager is imminent?
Ole deserved this season unless it turns treacherous.
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What would constitute treacherous?
Just curious
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Similar to the times when Ole got the job.
posted on 15/10/20
I think football has moved on a bit. I used to mention Allegri a lot for Utd, he ticks a lot of boxes, but attacking is the way to go now.
posted on 15/10/20
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 8 minutes ago
Why are we talking like a change of manager is imminent?
Ole deserved this season unless it turns treacherous.
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I get where you're coming from but it's because he's odds on favourite to go next in the Prem.
posted on 15/10/20
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 8 minutes ago
Why are we talking like a change of manager is imminent?
Ole deserved this season unless it turns treacherous.
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I get where you're coming from but it's because he's odds on favourite to go next in the Prem.
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Created by the media I reckon
posted on 15/10/20
It’s a bit of both, but most managers will have a preference for how they set up and coach their teams.
posted on 15/10/20
I think that with the attacking players we have, Big Sam could come in and have us playing expansive football from the off.
posted on 15/10/20
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 12 minutes ago
Why are we talking like a change of manager is imminent?
Ole deserved this season unless it turns treacherous.
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I wasn't tbh. Just going by some of the discussions I've seen and thought it would be interesting topic
posted on 15/10/20
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comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 18 minutes ago
It’s a bit of both, but most managers will have a preference for how they set up and coach their teams.
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I get that daz. But, to expand a little, take Simeone at athletico what does he expect to achieve with his style? Is he not basically a sam allardyce?
posted on 15/10/20
No, he’s more Sean Dyche.
posted on 15/10/20
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 8 minutes ago
Why are we talking like a change of manager is imminent?
Ole deserved this season unless it turns treacherous.
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I get where you're coming from but it's because he's odds on favourite to go next in the Prem.
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Created by the media I reckon
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It was inevitable with our start and I think if it continues the media will be proved right. Not because they are right currently, for all we know Ole has full backing. But lose a few more and I think UTD maybe forced to look elsewhere and media will shout "we told you so"
They are in a win win situation really. If Ole goes on a run of good results they'll still go with "was on brinkmof getting sacked but results have saved him" etc
posted on 15/10/20
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
No, he’s more Sean Dyche.
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Yeah tbf that's a better example but I saw Sam's name in Elvis's comment so went with him.
You get what I mean though?
A certain style to keep a team in a certain position with an almost certainty that they won't beat the top 2 etc without a plan to knock them off their perch is not exactly experience to take over a team wanting to challenge in their league for the top spot
posted on 15/10/20
Could an Allegri come and surprise us?
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Doubt it.
There aren't many managers that are that flexible.
posted on 15/10/20
Atleti have finished above the top 2 in Spain, though. I think Atleti are limited in many ways by Big Sameone, but they’ve also made some really poor decisions in the transfer market as well - and I don’t know just how much of that is down to him.
Most top managers aren’t going to move too far away from what made them successful, and I don’t think it’s quite simply a matter of choice either, some managers are just better than others at getting their teams to play in a certain way.
Even if he did it, and he never would, I don’t think Pep would have been as successful if he got his teams to play defensive, park the bus football.
posted on 15/10/20
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
Atleti have finished above the top 2 in Spain, though. I think Atleti are limited in many ways by Big Sameone, but they’ve also made some really poor decisions in the transfer market as well - and I don’t know just how much of that is down to him.
Most top managers aren’t going to move too far away from what made them successful, and I don’t think it’s quite simply a matter of choice either, some managers are just better than others at getting their teams to play in a certain way.
Even if he did it, and he never would, I don’t think Pep would have been as successful if he got his teams to play defensive, park the bus football.
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Yeah pretty much agree.
Although I find Pep a bit of an anomaly really. I just think what he wants hinders his team some what. A little flexibility and I think he beats liverpool to the top spot, for example.
That said he has the resources to throw money at a position to try and implement his style which for me isn't really management. Making what you have function as part of a collective is management. SAF getting league titles with o'shea and fletch etc was management
posted on 15/10/20
But what he wants has proven to be so successful that I’m not sure how much it really hinders. Every single manager will have things that potentially hinder them, but their value is in the consistency of their success.
posted on 15/10/20
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posted 25 minutes ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 8 minutes ago
Why are we talking like a change of manager is imminent?
Ole deserved this season unless it turns treacherous.
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I get where you're coming from but it's because he's odds on favourite to go next in the Prem.
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Created by the media I reckon
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It was inevitable with our start and I think if it continues the media will be proved right. Not because they are right currently, for all we know Ole has full backing. But lose a few more and I think UTD maybe forced to look elsewhere and media will shout "we told you so"
They are in a win win situation really. If Ole goes on a run of good results they'll still go with "was on brinkmof getting sacked but results have saved him" etc
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I thought the saying ‘any manager is potentially 3 losses from the sack’ was well known. I fully believe Ed doesn’t want to sack Ole as he’s a guy who doesn’t cause waves by kicking off about his hand in public and is loved by the fans but if results don’t improve the pressure will build. No one ‘deserves’ anything in football if you lose games in the manner we are. But his destiny us in his hands and (obviously) good results will keep him in the job. Next few weeks will be massive.
posted on 15/10/20
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 41 minutes ago
But what he wants has proven to be so successful that I’m not sure how much it really hinders. Every single manager will have things that potentially hinder them, but their value is in the consistency of their success.
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It's subjective I guess. But for me Pep in the prem has been a disappointment.
On paper he has the squad who should be doing what LFC achieved, ie cl and prem.
For me him losing say kompany shouldn't have had th impact of say if LFC lost mane
posted on 15/10/20
comment by Robb Pochettino (U22311)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 8 minutes ago
Why are we talking like a change of manager is imminent?
Ole deserved this season unless it turns treacherous.
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I get where you're coming from but it's because he's odds on favourite to go next in the Prem.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Created by the media I reckon
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It was inevitable with our start and I think if it continues the media will be proved right. Not because they are right currently, for all we know Ole has full backing. But lose a few more and I think UTD maybe forced to look elsewhere and media will shout "we told you so"
They are in a win win situation really. If Ole goes on a run of good results they'll still go with "was on brinkmof getting sacked but results have saved him" etc
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I thought the saying ‘any manager is potentially 3 losses from the sack’ was well known. I fully believe Ed doesn’t want to sack Ole as he’s a guy who doesn’t cause waves by kicking off about his hand in public and is loved by the fans but if results don’t improve the pressure will build. No one ‘deserves’ anything in football if you lose games in the manner we are. But his destiny us in his hands and (obviously) good results will keep him in the job. Next few weeks will be massive.
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Evening robb. I think the issue is based on how you lose too somewhat. For me the BHA game, although a win was more telling than the 6-1 defeat to Spurs
posted on 15/10/20
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robb Pochettino (U22311)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 8 minutes ago
Why are we talking like a change of manager is imminent?
Ole deserved this season unless it turns treacherous.
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I get where you're coming from but it's because he's odds on favourite to go next in the Prem.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Created by the media I reckon
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It was inevitable with our start and I think if it continues the media will be proved right. Not because they are right currently, for all we know Ole has full backing. But lose a few more and I think UTD maybe forced to look elsewhere and media will shout "we told you so"
They are in a win win situation really. If Ole goes on a run of good results they'll still go with "was on brinkmof getting sacked but results have saved him" etc
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I thought the saying ‘any manager is potentially 3 losses from the sack’ was well known. I fully believe Ed doesn’t want to sack Ole as he’s a guy who doesn’t cause waves by kicking off about his hand in public and is loved by the fans but if results don’t improve the pressure will build. No one ‘deserves’ anything in football if you lose games in the manner we are. But his destiny us in his hands and (obviously) good results will keep him in the job. Next few weeks will be massive.
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Evening robb. I think the issue is based on how you lose too somewhat. For me the BHA game, although a win was more telling than the 6-1 defeat to Spurs
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Morning. Yeah, I agree, even though at half time we had lost that game to Spurs I would have loved to have seen some fight in the second half but it was arguably worse as there was zero effort or pride. The Brighton game was a warning that we didn’t take notice of and Spurs were more than happy to take advantage of the lack of preparedness.
posted on 15/10/20
He’s won two league titles, in very impressive fashion. The CL’s certainly been a disappointment, but I don’t think he has in the prem.
But my point stands, the success far outweighs the failures with how he’s coached his teams. Whatever it is you think is hindering him is almost hindering perfection.
posted on 15/10/20
Yeah forgot it's morning where you are.
I agree the heads down and not batoning down was woeful.
But the reason I felt more let down by the BHA game was the fact it was BHA and the ran rings round us. I was happy we won but let's be honest it wasn't deserved.
Spurs on paper are a better team than BHA and we were down to 10. Although I'm not sure having 11 on the pitch would have helped
The BHA game made the spurs one an almost inevitability unless we got our act together. We didn't
posted on 15/10/20
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 12 seconds ago
He’s won two league titles, in very impressive fashion. The CL’s certainly been a disappointment, but I don’t think he has in the prem.
But my point stands, the success far outweighs the failures with how he’s coached his teams. Whatever it is you think is hindering him is almost hindering perfection.
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Not necessarily disagreeing with you.
I think it was Henry who scored a great goal and was told off by pep? I get a sort of "express yourself" vibe from Pep but it's a expr as yourself in a way I want you to.
Still think with the money and players bought he should have done better in CL and beat LFC to the title
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