You're right about Sanchez being bullied. He is so weak for somebody of his build.
makes me laugh when fans say hes strong.
Sissoko cost us 2 goals yesterday, he failed to even get off the ground to defend the free kick and made a pis5 poor clearance straight at a Scammers player in the build up to another goal.
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● 2020* (U3924)
posted 7 minutes ago
Sissoko cost us 2 goals yesterday, he failed to even get off the ground to defend the free kick and made a pis5 poor clearance straight at a Scammers player in the build up to another goal.
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Yep, he's not the greatest midfielder! But we do need that physical presence in order to compliment Ndombele, PEK and Lo Celso. I'm more worried about central defence tbh
Decent article mate. But the defence whilst it has issues is not the main problem. I have always maintained that it is the midfield that needs to get its act together. It is far to easy just to walk through the Spurs midfield and get at the defence. Until you start limiting the possession in that area, then Spurs will always have a problem.
I was quite happy with PEH and Ndombele yesterday and Sissoko buzzing about. As soon as Ndombele went off and Winks came on, alarm bells started to ring. Winks is totally useless at shielding the back four, and when you have a Winks/Sissoko partnership it usually doesn`t end well.
That said whatever the partnership in defence or midfield, no team should be conceeding three goals in the last eight minutes. It was a once in every 10 year fluke result for West Ham, and fortunately three goals leads are not often surrendered.
We all need to move on though now.
so sandy sounds like its jose's fault. why would he bring on winks to see out a game.
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 3 minutes ago
so sandy sounds like its jose's fault. why would he bring on winks to see out a game.
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This is why the talk of us winning the title is nothing but laughable. We've improved going forward and I think PEH is looking an absolute steal, more than any other summer signing for me but it it is definitely defensively where we'll come up short. In terms of levels I'd say we're with Liverpool circa 2016/17 (when we were better than them). What did they do? They bought an absolute colossus at the back and kicked on. We might win a minor cup like the Carabao but for me you cannot win major trophies if you need to score 3 goals a game to win. Simple as that.
I'm hoping Joe Rodon comes in and miraculously hits the ground running from the lower leagues like Dele did. We need a talker, a commander. I'm also still not convinced at RB either. We need...
A centre half that will boss the others.
A better RB. Not convinced by either options in that department. Also, I noticed Reguillon left a lot of open gaps for WH to exploit yesterday. That may become a problem if other teams target him. We cannot play with our wing backs so high unless we're prepared to press, press, press. Give a half decent player time to look up and they'll find the space in behind.
Lots to improve on for me.
fridgeboy, if you're anything like liverpool 16/17 get ready for a bumpy ride. exciting as hell though.
Yeah, it feels more like we're being guided by Ossie Ardiles than Jose Mourinho. This is just not in his style. That's where there's a problem. We had the players yesterday to kick on and get 4 or 5 but my gut tells me that Jose's advice was to sit on 3-0 as that's served him well in the past, when he's had the players to do it. Basically, we should never sit on a lead, however big as clearly we haven't got the players to do it. There's a disconnect between the players best attributes and Jose's instincts. It'll either click in place and we'll steamroller teams like a machine or the players just won't get it and the grumpy Jose from Old Trafford will emerge. Gulp!
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posted 40 minutes ago
so sandy sounds like its jose's fault. why would he bring on winks to see out a game.
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Exactly, serial winner isn't he from all accounts
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 14 minutes ago
This is why the talk of us winning the title is nothing but laughable. We've improved going forward and I think PEH is looking an absolute steal, more than any other summer signing for me but it it is definitely defensively where we'll come up short. In terms of levels I'd say we're with Liverpool circa 2016/17 (when we were better than them). What did they do? They bought an absolute colossus at the back and kicked on. We might win a minor cup like the Carabao but for me you cannot win major trophies if you need to score 3 goals a game to win. Simple as that.
I'm hoping Joe Rodon comes in and miraculously hits the ground running from the lower leagues like Dele did. We need a talker, a commander. I'm also still not convinced at RB either. We need...
A centre half that will boss the others.
A better RB. Not convinced by either options in that department. Also, I noticed Reguillon left a lot of open gaps for WH to exploit yesterday. That may become a problem if other teams target him. We cannot play with our wing backs so high unless we're prepared to press, press, press. Give a half decent player time to look up and they'll find the space in behind.
Lots to improve on for me.
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Why is it laughable. Every other team is shipping goals in the Prem. Spurs have as good a chance as any. Only two last minute goals have stopped Spurs from going 2nd. Those slip ups won`t last forever.
Very defeatest attitude to think a team with the World Cup winning goalie, two of the best strikers in World Football, lots of other really quality players cannot have a go at winning the title. It should be a given that they are in with a chance.
Liverpool currently are shipping goals for fun in the Prem, nearly three goals a game, are you also writing them off, until they sort out their CBs?
Sandy
We have the firepower to do it. In fact I wouldn't mind betting that the numbers we put up at the end of the season in terms of goals will be of a similar level to whoever wins it. That said, you cannot ever, ever win a league title if you need to score three to scrape a win. Liverpool were nowhere near it until they signed VVD and Allison. Yes, other teams are faltering but they'll click into gear soon enough. If ever we were going to win it, we'd need to exploit their current leaky nature, not mirror it. Truth be told, we've played 3 home games against Everton, Newcastle and West Ham and picked up a poor 2 points. Yes, we were unlucky in the Newcastle game but 3 games at home without a win against sides considered beneath us and you think we can win the title? Do me a favour. I think you might have been overly charmed by the Man U and Southampton games. They were both freakishly poor and we'd played more games than both of those teams at that point. Our fitness was higher because of the EL fixtures. I think you're getting ahead of yourself. There's definitely an improvement and we might get top 4 but you're setting yourself up for a big fall if you think that we'll win the league. Didn't I hear you say on another thread that if we don't win it this year, we'll defo win it next year? Wow.
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posted 4 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 14 minutes ago
This is why the talk of us winning the title is nothing but laughable. We've improved going forward and I think PEH is looking an absolute steal, more than any other summer signing for me but it it is definitely defensively where we'll come up short. In terms of levels I'd say we're with Liverpool circa 2016/17 (when we were better than them). What did they do? They bought an absolute colossus at the back and kicked on. We might win a minor cup like the Carabao but for me you cannot win major trophies if you need to score 3 goals a game to win. Simple as that.
I'm hoping Joe Rodon comes in and miraculously hits the ground running from the lower leagues like Dele did. We need a talker, a commander. I'm also still not convinced at RB either. We need...
A centre half that will boss the others.
A better RB. Not convinced by either options in that department. Also, I noticed Reguillon left a lot of open gaps for WH to exploit yesterday. That may become a problem if other teams target him. We cannot play with our wing backs so high unless we're prepared to press, press, press. Give a half decent player time to look up and they'll find the space in behind.
Lots to improve on for me.
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Why is it laughable. Every other team is shipping goals in the Prem. Spurs have as good a chance as any. Only two last minute goals have stopped Spurs from going 2nd. Those slip ups won`t last forever.
Very defeatest attitude to think a team with the World Cup winning goalie, two of the best strikers in World Football, lots of other really quality players cannot have a go at winning the title. It should be a given that they are in with a chance.
Liverpool currently are shipping goals for fun in the Prem, nearly three goals a game, are you also writing them off, until they sort out their CBs?
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Nobody is writing Liverpool off, because they’ve proved over last 2 years that they can be consistent enough to actually win the 2 biggest trophies you can win
We haven’t done anything yet, apart from show a great aptitude for conceding leads, and bottling semi finals and finals
That’s why comparing Liverpool’s chance of winning the title to ours is frankly ridiculous
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 8 minutes ago
Sandy
We have the firepower to do it. In fact I wouldn't mind betting that the numbers we put up at the end of the season in terms of goals will be of a similar level to whoever wins it. That said, you cannot ever, ever win a league title if you need to score three to scrape a win. Liverpool were nowhere near it until they signed VVD and Allison. Yes, other teams are faltering but they'll click into gear soon enough. If ever we were going to win it, we'd need to exploit their current leaky nature, not mirror it. Truth be told, we've played 3 home games against Everton, Newcastle and West Ham and picked up a poor 2 points. Yes, we were unlucky in the Newcastle game but 3 games at home without a win against sides considered beneath us and you think we can win the title? Do me a favour. I think you might have been overly charmed by the Man U and Southampton games. They were both freakishly poor and we'd played more games than both of those teams at that point. Our fitness was higher because of the EL fixtures. I think you're getting ahead of yourself. There's definitely an improvement and we might get top 4 but you're setting yourself up for a big fall if you think that we'll win the league. Didn't I hear you say on another thread that if we don't win it this year, we'll defo win it next year? Wow.
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I give an opinion. Take it or leave it. But hard for you to disprove that Spurs cannot win the league after just five games. Let's be fair two of those home wins have been stolen with the last kicks of the game. Very unlikely a team has ever been that unlucky in successive hone games. Both freak results.
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posted 9 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 14 minutes ago
This is why the talk of us winning the title is nothing but laughable. We've improved going forward and I think PEH is looking an absolute steal, more than any other summer signing for me but it it is definitely defensively where we'll come up short. In terms of levels I'd say we're with Liverpool circa 2016/17 (when we were better than them). What did they do? They bought an absolute colossus at the back and kicked on. We might win a minor cup like the Carabao but for me you cannot win major trophies if you need to score 3 goals a game to win. Simple as that.
I'm hoping Joe Rodon comes in and miraculously hits the ground running from the lower leagues like Dele did. We need a talker, a commander. I'm also still not convinced at RB either. We need...
A centre half that will boss the others.
A better RB. Not convinced by either options in that department. Also, I noticed Reguillon left a lot of open gaps for WH to exploit yesterday. That may become a problem if other teams target him. We cannot play with our wing backs so high unless we're prepared to press, press, press. Give a half decent player time to look up and they'll find the space in behind.
Lots to improve on for me.
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Why is it laughable. Every other team is shipping goals in the Prem. Spurs have as good a chance as any. Only two last minute goals have stopped Spurs from going 2nd. Those slip ups won`t last forever.
Very defeatest attitude to think a team with the World Cup winning goalie, two of the best strikers in World Football, lots of other really quality players cannot have a go at winning the title. It should be a given that they are in with a chance.
Liverpool currently are shipping goals for fun in the Prem, nearly three goals a game, are you also writing them off, until they sort out their CBs?
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Nobody is writing Liverpool off, because they’ve proved over last 2 years that they can be consistent enough to actually win the 2 biggest trophies you can win
We haven’t done anything yet, apart from show a great aptitude for conceding leads, and bottling semi finals and finals
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Have to agree here. A defence that consists of Dier, Sanchez and Aurier isn’t winning a dime. Pi^** poor average s** they really are. Add Winks to the mix and Sissoko. That’s another 2 extremely average players. Until we sort out this defence, we are winning jack s**
comment by Sir Tottenham of Hotspur (U17379)
posted 8 minutes ago
That’s why comparing Liverpool’s chance of winning the title to ours is frankly ridiculous
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What happened in the past is totally irrelevant to this season. Had I told you at the start of the season Liverpool would have the poorest defense in the division after the first month you would have said don't be silly. But facts is facts, Liverpool currently are the worse defensive side in the division.
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posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Sir Tottenham of Hotspur (U17379)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 14 minutes ago
This is why the talk of us winning the title is nothing but laughable. We've improved going forward and I think PEH is looking an absolute steal, more than any other summer signing for me but it it is definitely defensively where we'll come up short. In terms of levels I'd say we're with Liverpool circa 2016/17 (when we were better than them). What did they do? They bought an absolute colossus at the back and kicked on. We might win a minor cup like the Carabao but for me you cannot win major trophies if you need to score 3 goals a game to win. Simple as that.
I'm hoping Joe Rodon comes in and miraculously hits the ground running from the lower leagues like Dele did. We need a talker, a commander. I'm also still not convinced at RB either. We need...
A centre half that will boss the others.
A better RB. Not convinced by either options in that department. Also, I noticed Reguillon left a lot of open gaps for WH to exploit yesterday. That may become a problem if other teams target him. We cannot play with our wing backs so high unless we're prepared to press, press, press. Give a half decent player time to look up and they'll find the space in behind.
Lots to improve on for me.
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Why is it laughable. Every other team is shipping goals in the Prem. Spurs have as good a chance as any. Only two last minute goals have stopped Spurs from going 2nd. Those slip ups won`t last forever.
Very defeatest attitude to think a team with the World Cup winning goalie, two of the best strikers in World Football, lots of other really quality players cannot have a go at winning the title. It should be a given that they are in with a chance.
Liverpool currently are shipping goals for fun in the Prem, nearly three goals a game, are you also writing them off, until they sort out their CBs?
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Nobody is writing Liverpool off, because they’ve proved over last 2 years that they can be consistent enough to actually win the 2 biggest trophies you can win
We haven’t done anything yet, apart from show a great aptitude for conceding leads, and bottling semi finals and finals
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Have to agree here. A defence that consists of Dier, Sanchez and Aurier isn’t winning a dime. Pi^** poor average s** they really are. Add Winks to the mix and Sissoko. That’s another 2 extremely average players. Until we sort out this defence, we are winning jack s**
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Keep the faith Don, I bet you were thinking half time, Spurs to win the Prem.
Jose tried this at Utd, we were smashing teams for the first 5 games or so, then City taught us a lesson in attacking football and he reverted to type.
Yesterday may well have been that game for you lot, I don’t think he trusts your defence.
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Sir Tottenham of Hotspur (U17379)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 14 minutes ago
This is why the talk of us winning the title is nothing but laughable. We've improved going forward and I think PEH is looking an absolute steal, more than any other summer signing for me but it it is definitely defensively where we'll come up short. In terms of levels I'd say we're with Liverpool circa 2016/17 (when we were better than them). What did they do? They bought an absolute colossus at the back and kicked on. We might win a minor cup like the Carabao but for me you cannot win major trophies if you need to score 3 goals a game to win. Simple as that.
I'm hoping Joe Rodon comes in and miraculously hits the ground running from the lower leagues like Dele did. We need a talker, a commander. I'm also still not convinced at RB either. We need...
A centre half that will boss the others.
A better RB. Not convinced by either options in that department. Also, I noticed Reguillon left a lot of open gaps for WH to exploit yesterday. That may become a problem if other teams target him. We cannot play with our wing backs so high unless we're prepared to press, press, press. Give a half decent player time to look up and they'll find the space in behind.
Lots to improve on for me.
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Why is it laughable. Every other team is shipping goals in the Prem. Spurs have as good a chance as any. Only two last minute goals have stopped Spurs from going 2nd. Those slip ups won`t last forever.
Very defeatest attitude to think a team with the World Cup winning goalie, two of the best strikers in World Football, lots of other really quality players cannot have a go at winning the title. It should be a given that they are in with a chance.
Liverpool currently are shipping goals for fun in the Prem, nearly three goals a game, are you also writing them off, until they sort out their CBs?
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Nobody is writing Liverpool off, because they’ve proved over last 2 years that they can be consistent enough to actually win the 2 biggest trophies you can win
We haven’t done anything yet, apart from show a great aptitude for conceding leads, and bottling semi finals and finals
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Have to agree here. A defence that consists of Dier, Sanchez and Aurier isn’t winning a dime. Pi^** poor average s** they really are. Add Winks to the mix and Sissoko. That’s another 2 extremely average players. Until we sort out this defence, we are winning jack s**
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Keep the faith Don, I bet you were thinking half time, Spurs to win the Prem.
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Football ain’t 1 half though mate. Pointless smashing teams 1st half if we are going to throw it all away every game. It’s ridiculous mate.
Sandy one minute you bang on about our glorious history in the 60s, then you say the “ past is irrelevant “ of course the recent history isn’t irrelevant which is why Liverpool and Man City are very short odds to win it and we are like 14-1.
Now of course that doesn’t mean we can’t do it, it does happen and we need to drastically improve the defensive side to even come close. In fact that’s what has disappointed me most about Jose, he just hasn’t improved the defence or the frail mentality much at all
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 3 minutes ago
Jose tried this at Utd, we were smashing teams for the first 5 games or so, then City taught us a lesson in attacking football and he reverted to type.
Yesterday may well have been that game for you lot, I don’t think he trusts your defence.
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I'd argue yesterday fell apart because Jose reverted to type in the second half
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comment by Sir Tottenham of Hotspur (U17379)
posted 8 minutes ago
That’s why comparing Liverpool’s chance of winning the title to ours is frankly ridiculous
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What happened in the past is totally irrelevant to this season. Had I told you at the start of the season Liverpool would have the poorest defense in the division after the first month you would have said don't be silly. But facts is facts, Liverpool currently are the worse defensive side in the division.
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How is it irrelevant Sandy?
They run the title last season, so although it’s in the past I’d say it’s highly relevant as they essentially have the same squad (plus Thiago and Jota)
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posted on 19/10/20
You're right about Sanchez being bullied. He is so weak for somebody of his build.
posted on 19/10/20
makes me laugh when fans say hes strong.
posted on 19/10/20
Sissoko cost us 2 goals yesterday, he failed to even get off the ground to defend the free kick and made a pis5 poor clearance straight at a Scammers player in the build up to another goal.
posted on 19/10/20
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● 2020* (U3924)
posted 7 minutes ago
Sissoko cost us 2 goals yesterday, he failed to even get off the ground to defend the free kick and made a pis5 poor clearance straight at a Scammers player in the build up to another goal.
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Yep, he's not the greatest midfielder! But we do need that physical presence in order to compliment Ndombele, PEK and Lo Celso. I'm more worried about central defence tbh
posted on 19/10/20
*PEH
posted on 19/10/20
Decent article mate. But the defence whilst it has issues is not the main problem. I have always maintained that it is the midfield that needs to get its act together. It is far to easy just to walk through the Spurs midfield and get at the defence. Until you start limiting the possession in that area, then Spurs will always have a problem.
I was quite happy with PEH and Ndombele yesterday and Sissoko buzzing about. As soon as Ndombele went off and Winks came on, alarm bells started to ring. Winks is totally useless at shielding the back four, and when you have a Winks/Sissoko partnership it usually doesn`t end well.
That said whatever the partnership in defence or midfield, no team should be conceeding three goals in the last eight minutes. It was a once in every 10 year fluke result for West Ham, and fortunately three goals leads are not often surrendered.
We all need to move on though now.
posted on 19/10/20
so sandy sounds like its jose's fault. why would he bring on winks to see out a game.
posted on 19/10/20
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 3 minutes ago
so sandy sounds like its jose's fault. why would he bring on winks to see out a game.
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posted on 19/10/20
This is why the talk of us winning the title is nothing but laughable. We've improved going forward and I think PEH is looking an absolute steal, more than any other summer signing for me but it it is definitely defensively where we'll come up short. In terms of levels I'd say we're with Liverpool circa 2016/17 (when we were better than them). What did they do? They bought an absolute colossus at the back and kicked on. We might win a minor cup like the Carabao but for me you cannot win major trophies if you need to score 3 goals a game to win. Simple as that.
I'm hoping Joe Rodon comes in and miraculously hits the ground running from the lower leagues like Dele did. We need a talker, a commander. I'm also still not convinced at RB either. We need...
A centre half that will boss the others.
A better RB. Not convinced by either options in that department. Also, I noticed Reguillon left a lot of open gaps for WH to exploit yesterday. That may become a problem if other teams target him. We cannot play with our wing backs so high unless we're prepared to press, press, press. Give a half decent player time to look up and they'll find the space in behind.
Lots to improve on for me.
posted on 19/10/20
fridgeboy, if you're anything like liverpool 16/17 get ready for a bumpy ride. exciting as hell though.
posted on 19/10/20
Yeah, it feels more like we're being guided by Ossie Ardiles than Jose Mourinho. This is just not in his style. That's where there's a problem. We had the players yesterday to kick on and get 4 or 5 but my gut tells me that Jose's advice was to sit on 3-0 as that's served him well in the past, when he's had the players to do it. Basically, we should never sit on a lead, however big as clearly we haven't got the players to do it. There's a disconnect between the players best attributes and Jose's instincts. It'll either click in place and we'll steamroller teams like a machine or the players just won't get it and the grumpy Jose from Old Trafford will emerge. Gulp!
posted on 19/10/20
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 40 minutes ago
so sandy sounds like its jose's fault. why would he bring on winks to see out a game.
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Exactly, serial winner isn't he from all accounts
posted on 19/10/20
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 14 minutes ago
This is why the talk of us winning the title is nothing but laughable. We've improved going forward and I think PEH is looking an absolute steal, more than any other summer signing for me but it it is definitely defensively where we'll come up short. In terms of levels I'd say we're with Liverpool circa 2016/17 (when we were better than them). What did they do? They bought an absolute colossus at the back and kicked on. We might win a minor cup like the Carabao but for me you cannot win major trophies if you need to score 3 goals a game to win. Simple as that.
I'm hoping Joe Rodon comes in and miraculously hits the ground running from the lower leagues like Dele did. We need a talker, a commander. I'm also still not convinced at RB either. We need...
A centre half that will boss the others.
A better RB. Not convinced by either options in that department. Also, I noticed Reguillon left a lot of open gaps for WH to exploit yesterday. That may become a problem if other teams target him. We cannot play with our wing backs so high unless we're prepared to press, press, press. Give a half decent player time to look up and they'll find the space in behind.
Lots to improve on for me.
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Why is it laughable. Every other team is shipping goals in the Prem. Spurs have as good a chance as any. Only two last minute goals have stopped Spurs from going 2nd. Those slip ups won`t last forever.
Very defeatest attitude to think a team with the World Cup winning goalie, two of the best strikers in World Football, lots of other really quality players cannot have a go at winning the title. It should be a given that they are in with a chance.
Liverpool currently are shipping goals for fun in the Prem, nearly three goals a game, are you also writing them off, until they sort out their CBs?
posted on 19/10/20
Sandy
We have the firepower to do it. In fact I wouldn't mind betting that the numbers we put up at the end of the season in terms of goals will be of a similar level to whoever wins it. That said, you cannot ever, ever win a league title if you need to score three to scrape a win. Liverpool were nowhere near it until they signed VVD and Allison. Yes, other teams are faltering but they'll click into gear soon enough. If ever we were going to win it, we'd need to exploit their current leaky nature, not mirror it. Truth be told, we've played 3 home games against Everton, Newcastle and West Ham and picked up a poor 2 points. Yes, we were unlucky in the Newcastle game but 3 games at home without a win against sides considered beneath us and you think we can win the title? Do me a favour. I think you might have been overly charmed by the Man U and Southampton games. They were both freakishly poor and we'd played more games than both of those teams at that point. Our fitness was higher because of the EL fixtures. I think you're getting ahead of yourself. There's definitely an improvement and we might get top 4 but you're setting yourself up for a big fall if you think that we'll win the league. Didn't I hear you say on another thread that if we don't win it this year, we'll defo win it next year? Wow.
posted on 19/10/20
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 14 minutes ago
This is why the talk of us winning the title is nothing but laughable. We've improved going forward and I think PEH is looking an absolute steal, more than any other summer signing for me but it it is definitely defensively where we'll come up short. In terms of levels I'd say we're with Liverpool circa 2016/17 (when we were better than them). What did they do? They bought an absolute colossus at the back and kicked on. We might win a minor cup like the Carabao but for me you cannot win major trophies if you need to score 3 goals a game to win. Simple as that.
I'm hoping Joe Rodon comes in and miraculously hits the ground running from the lower leagues like Dele did. We need a talker, a commander. I'm also still not convinced at RB either. We need...
A centre half that will boss the others.
A better RB. Not convinced by either options in that department. Also, I noticed Reguillon left a lot of open gaps for WH to exploit yesterday. That may become a problem if other teams target him. We cannot play with our wing backs so high unless we're prepared to press, press, press. Give a half decent player time to look up and they'll find the space in behind.
Lots to improve on for me.
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Why is it laughable. Every other team is shipping goals in the Prem. Spurs have as good a chance as any. Only two last minute goals have stopped Spurs from going 2nd. Those slip ups won`t last forever.
Very defeatest attitude to think a team with the World Cup winning goalie, two of the best strikers in World Football, lots of other really quality players cannot have a go at winning the title. It should be a given that they are in with a chance.
Liverpool currently are shipping goals for fun in the Prem, nearly three goals a game, are you also writing them off, until they sort out their CBs?
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Nobody is writing Liverpool off, because they’ve proved over last 2 years that they can be consistent enough to actually win the 2 biggest trophies you can win
We haven’t done anything yet, apart from show a great aptitude for conceding leads, and bottling semi finals and finals
posted on 19/10/20
That’s why comparing Liverpool’s chance of winning the title to ours is frankly ridiculous
posted on 19/10/20
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 8 minutes ago
Sandy
We have the firepower to do it. In fact I wouldn't mind betting that the numbers we put up at the end of the season in terms of goals will be of a similar level to whoever wins it. That said, you cannot ever, ever win a league title if you need to score three to scrape a win. Liverpool were nowhere near it until they signed VVD and Allison. Yes, other teams are faltering but they'll click into gear soon enough. If ever we were going to win it, we'd need to exploit their current leaky nature, not mirror it. Truth be told, we've played 3 home games against Everton, Newcastle and West Ham and picked up a poor 2 points. Yes, we were unlucky in the Newcastle game but 3 games at home without a win against sides considered beneath us and you think we can win the title? Do me a favour. I think you might have been overly charmed by the Man U and Southampton games. They were both freakishly poor and we'd played more games than both of those teams at that point. Our fitness was higher because of the EL fixtures. I think you're getting ahead of yourself. There's definitely an improvement and we might get top 4 but you're setting yourself up for a big fall if you think that we'll win the league. Didn't I hear you say on another thread that if we don't win it this year, we'll defo win it next year? Wow.
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I give an opinion. Take it or leave it. But hard for you to disprove that Spurs cannot win the league after just five games. Let's be fair two of those home wins have been stolen with the last kicks of the game. Very unlikely a team has ever been that unlucky in successive hone games. Both freak results.
posted on 19/10/20
comment by Sir Tottenham of Hotspur (U17379)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 14 minutes ago
This is why the talk of us winning the title is nothing but laughable. We've improved going forward and I think PEH is looking an absolute steal, more than any other summer signing for me but it it is definitely defensively where we'll come up short. In terms of levels I'd say we're with Liverpool circa 2016/17 (when we were better than them). What did they do? They bought an absolute colossus at the back and kicked on. We might win a minor cup like the Carabao but for me you cannot win major trophies if you need to score 3 goals a game to win. Simple as that.
I'm hoping Joe Rodon comes in and miraculously hits the ground running from the lower leagues like Dele did. We need a talker, a commander. I'm also still not convinced at RB either. We need...
A centre half that will boss the others.
A better RB. Not convinced by either options in that department. Also, I noticed Reguillon left a lot of open gaps for WH to exploit yesterday. That may become a problem if other teams target him. We cannot play with our wing backs so high unless we're prepared to press, press, press. Give a half decent player time to look up and they'll find the space in behind.
Lots to improve on for me.
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Why is it laughable. Every other team is shipping goals in the Prem. Spurs have as good a chance as any. Only two last minute goals have stopped Spurs from going 2nd. Those slip ups won`t last forever.
Very defeatest attitude to think a team with the World Cup winning goalie, two of the best strikers in World Football, lots of other really quality players cannot have a go at winning the title. It should be a given that they are in with a chance.
Liverpool currently are shipping goals for fun in the Prem, nearly three goals a game, are you also writing them off, until they sort out their CBs?
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Nobody is writing Liverpool off, because they’ve proved over last 2 years that they can be consistent enough to actually win the 2 biggest trophies you can win
We haven’t done anything yet, apart from show a great aptitude for conceding leads, and bottling semi finals and finals
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Have to agree here. A defence that consists of Dier, Sanchez and Aurier isn’t winning a dime. Pi^** poor average s** they really are. Add Winks to the mix and Sissoko. That’s another 2 extremely average players. Until we sort out this defence, we are winning jack s**
posted on 19/10/20
comment by Sir Tottenham of Hotspur (U17379)
posted 8 minutes ago
That’s why comparing Liverpool’s chance of winning the title to ours is frankly ridiculous
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What happened in the past is totally irrelevant to this season. Had I told you at the start of the season Liverpool would have the poorest defense in the division after the first month you would have said don't be silly. But facts is facts, Liverpool currently are the worse defensive side in the division.
posted on 19/10/20
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Sir Tottenham of Hotspur (U17379)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 14 minutes ago
This is why the talk of us winning the title is nothing but laughable. We've improved going forward and I think PEH is looking an absolute steal, more than any other summer signing for me but it it is definitely defensively where we'll come up short. In terms of levels I'd say we're with Liverpool circa 2016/17 (when we were better than them). What did they do? They bought an absolute colossus at the back and kicked on. We might win a minor cup like the Carabao but for me you cannot win major trophies if you need to score 3 goals a game to win. Simple as that.
I'm hoping Joe Rodon comes in and miraculously hits the ground running from the lower leagues like Dele did. We need a talker, a commander. I'm also still not convinced at RB either. We need...
A centre half that will boss the others.
A better RB. Not convinced by either options in that department. Also, I noticed Reguillon left a lot of open gaps for WH to exploit yesterday. That may become a problem if other teams target him. We cannot play with our wing backs so high unless we're prepared to press, press, press. Give a half decent player time to look up and they'll find the space in behind.
Lots to improve on for me.
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Why is it laughable. Every other team is shipping goals in the Prem. Spurs have as good a chance as any. Only two last minute goals have stopped Spurs from going 2nd. Those slip ups won`t last forever.
Very defeatest attitude to think a team with the World Cup winning goalie, two of the best strikers in World Football, lots of other really quality players cannot have a go at winning the title. It should be a given that they are in with a chance.
Liverpool currently are shipping goals for fun in the Prem, nearly three goals a game, are you also writing them off, until they sort out their CBs?
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Nobody is writing Liverpool off, because they’ve proved over last 2 years that they can be consistent enough to actually win the 2 biggest trophies you can win
We haven’t done anything yet, apart from show a great aptitude for conceding leads, and bottling semi finals and finals
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Have to agree here. A defence that consists of Dier, Sanchez and Aurier isn’t winning a dime. Pi^** poor average s** they really are. Add Winks to the mix and Sissoko. That’s another 2 extremely average players. Until we sort out this defence, we are winning jack s**
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Keep the faith Don, I bet you were thinking half time, Spurs to win the Prem.
posted on 19/10/20
Jose tried this at Utd, we were smashing teams for the first 5 games or so, then City taught us a lesson in attacking football and he reverted to type.
Yesterday may well have been that game for you lot, I don’t think he trusts your defence.
posted on 19/10/20
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Sir Tottenham of Hotspur (U17379)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 14 minutes ago
This is why the talk of us winning the title is nothing but laughable. We've improved going forward and I think PEH is looking an absolute steal, more than any other summer signing for me but it it is definitely defensively where we'll come up short. In terms of levels I'd say we're with Liverpool circa 2016/17 (when we were better than them). What did they do? They bought an absolute colossus at the back and kicked on. We might win a minor cup like the Carabao but for me you cannot win major trophies if you need to score 3 goals a game to win. Simple as that.
I'm hoping Joe Rodon comes in and miraculously hits the ground running from the lower leagues like Dele did. We need a talker, a commander. I'm also still not convinced at RB either. We need...
A centre half that will boss the others.
A better RB. Not convinced by either options in that department. Also, I noticed Reguillon left a lot of open gaps for WH to exploit yesterday. That may become a problem if other teams target him. We cannot play with our wing backs so high unless we're prepared to press, press, press. Give a half decent player time to look up and they'll find the space in behind.
Lots to improve on for me.
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Why is it laughable. Every other team is shipping goals in the Prem. Spurs have as good a chance as any. Only two last minute goals have stopped Spurs from going 2nd. Those slip ups won`t last forever.
Very defeatest attitude to think a team with the World Cup winning goalie, two of the best strikers in World Football, lots of other really quality players cannot have a go at winning the title. It should be a given that they are in with a chance.
Liverpool currently are shipping goals for fun in the Prem, nearly three goals a game, are you also writing them off, until they sort out their CBs?
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Nobody is writing Liverpool off, because they’ve proved over last 2 years that they can be consistent enough to actually win the 2 biggest trophies you can win
We haven’t done anything yet, apart from show a great aptitude for conceding leads, and bottling semi finals and finals
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Have to agree here. A defence that consists of Dier, Sanchez and Aurier isn’t winning a dime. Pi^** poor average s** they really are. Add Winks to the mix and Sissoko. That’s another 2 extremely average players. Until we sort out this defence, we are winning jack s**
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Keep the faith Don, I bet you were thinking half time, Spurs to win the Prem.
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Football ain’t 1 half though mate. Pointless smashing teams 1st half if we are going to throw it all away every game. It’s ridiculous mate.
posted on 19/10/20
Sandy one minute you bang on about our glorious history in the 60s, then you say the “ past is irrelevant “ of course the recent history isn’t irrelevant which is why Liverpool and Man City are very short odds to win it and we are like 14-1.
Now of course that doesn’t mean we can’t do it, it does happen and we need to drastically improve the defensive side to even come close. In fact that’s what has disappointed me most about Jose, he just hasn’t improved the defence or the frail mentality much at all
posted on 19/10/20
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 3 minutes ago
Jose tried this at Utd, we were smashing teams for the first 5 games or so, then City taught us a lesson in attacking football and he reverted to type.
Yesterday may well have been that game for you lot, I don’t think he trusts your defence.
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I'd argue yesterday fell apart because Jose reverted to type in the second half
posted on 19/10/20
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Sir Tottenham of Hotspur (U17379)
posted 8 minutes ago
That’s why comparing Liverpool’s chance of winning the title to ours is frankly ridiculous
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What happened in the past is totally irrelevant to this season. Had I told you at the start of the season Liverpool would have the poorest defense in the division after the first month you would have said don't be silly. But facts is facts, Liverpool currently are the worse defensive side in the division.
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How is it irrelevant Sandy?
They run the title last season, so although it’s in the past I’d say it’s highly relevant as they essentially have the same squad (plus Thiago and Jota)
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