Have taken some points from that article, to help those who dOnT uNdErStAnD fOoTbAlL
Regista in Italian means ‘director.’ It actually means the one who directs, who dictates the offensive play of the team. A regista is not the one who would run around the pitch vying for the ball, but it’s someone who would start his move by lying deep in his own half just in front of the centre-backs and finding his teammates with balls that would be difficult to spot even on a TV screen. Such is the elegance of the regista.
The registas are players that remain in the midfield area and control the game through their passing, often known as ‘midfield generals’ when combined with leadership and organisation skills. They are all excellent, accurate long-range passers of the ball with great vision and can dictate the play. They tend to remain in position and leave the goal scoring to others.
The regista is not usually known for his tackling prowess, though, as these players tend to come from deep in their own halves and possess remarkable passing skills. To help support with the defensive duties, he generally has a defensive midfielder beside him – like Sami Khedira supports Xabi Alonso at Real Madrid – to form a ‘double pivot.’
From a tactical viewpoint, the success of a regista lies on building a team around him. Teammates should be aware and, in fact, will be instructed to provide him with the ball at every opportunity. The attacking moves will originate from the regista who will remain at the pivot of every attacking play. In essence, the regista becomes the focal point as well as the organisational mastermind of a team.
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 55 minutes ago
Kante is a defensive 8 as opposed to a 6
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That's semantics and shirt numbers...means nothing
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 45 minutes ago
Pirlo is a regista, but he still plays in the DM role on the pitch.
Coady and Van Dijk start a lot of attacks for their clubs, but they're still CB's not playmakers.
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I like the phrase regista as much as I like the phrase pivot...
Partey having a nightmare
comment by 14 to West Ham (U20729)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht ; (U22469)
posted 13 minutes ago
He’s a box to box destroyer, win the ball across the park and give it to more creative players
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So instead of that, tell him to sit in front of the defence, win the ball and protect the defence. Why can't he play that role? Would that not make us more solid?
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Surely that is wasting Kante's engine to get around the pitch.
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He'd need that engine to span across the area in front of the back four
I think Kante at his best has been in a midfield two, counter attacking side. I know others disagree but for me Kante just has not been at his best since Conte left. Under Leicester, under Conte world class, since then the performances have not been the same.
In Jorginho and Kante we have two very specific, niche players who really have evidence they both perform at their best in specific systems.
comment by Stretchy Mendy (U1641)
posted 16 minutes ago
I think Kante at his best has been in a midfield two, counter attacking side. I know others disagree but for me Kante just has not been at his best since Conte left. Under Leicester, under Conte world class, since then the performances have not been the same.
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I think quite a few people think this. It makes sense as well. It’s not a surprise that he’s not looked as good when Chelsea have had two managers that are ball dominant. Kante’s best work has always been when he doesn’t have it.
comment by Stretchy Mendy (U1641)
posted 18 minutes ago
In Jorginho and Kante we have two very specific, niche players who really have evidence they both perform at their best in specific systems.
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But not the same system is this what you're saying
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Stretchy Mendy (U1641)
posted 16 minutes ago
I think Kante at his best has been in a midfield two, counter attacking side. I know others disagree but for me Kante just has not been at his best since Conte left. Under Leicester, under Conte world class, since then the performances have not been the same.
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I think quite a few people think this. It makes sense as well. It’s not a surprise that he’s not looked as good when Chelsea have had two managers that are ball dominant. Kante’s best work has always been when he doesn’t have it.
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Yep defo. I’ve debated this with a few fans who think Kante was still at his best under Sarri but I very much disagree. Took him half a season to even acclimatise to the role (at which point I tentatively wanted him dropped).
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Stretchy Mendy (U1641)
posted 16 minutes ago
I think Kante at his best has been in a midfield two, counter attacking side. I know others disagree but for me Kante just has not been at his best since Conte left. Under Leicester, under Conte world class, since then the performances have not been the same.
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I think quite a few people think this. It makes sense as well. It’s not a surprise that he’s not looked as good when Chelsea have had two managers that are ball dominant. Kante’s best work has always been when he doesn’t have it.
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So should we aim not to have the ball (or not be ball dominant) or just get rid of Kante...
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Stretchy Mendy (U1641)
posted 18 minutes ago
In Jorginho and Kante we have two very specific, niche players who really have evidence they both perform at their best in specific systems.
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But not the same system is this what you're saying
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Yeah not the same system. Jorginho being DLP in basically Sarri’s 4-3-3 possession-based system, Kante being in a midfield two counter-attacking. But then they have probably struck the best partnership surprisingly out of any of the combinations we get out of Kante, Jorginho and Kovacic.
So should we aim not to have the ball (or not be ball dominant) or just get rid of Kante...
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Well don’t know about get rid..but if we received a massive bid for Kante I think we should heavily consider it, said as such last summer. Think it was a more unpopular thought then, then it is now.
comment by Stretchy Mendy (U1641)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Stretchy Mendy (U1641)
posted 16 minutes ago
I think Kante at his best has been in a midfield two, counter attacking side. I know others disagree but for me Kante just has not been at his best since Conte left. Under Leicester, under Conte world class, since then the performances have not been the same.
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I think quite a few people think this. It makes sense as well. It’s not a surprise that he’s not looked as good when Chelsea have had two managers that are ball dominant. Kante’s best work has always been when he doesn’t have it.
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Yep defo. I’ve debated this with a few fans who think Kante was still at his best under Sarri but I very much disagree. Took him half a season to even acclimatise to the role (at which point I tentatively wanted him dropped).
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I think he was better under Sarri than many gave him credit for, but I agree he wasn’t at his best.
I think Kante could still be good in a more possession dominant team if they were quicker in transition. Watching Chelsea this seems to be a problem, especially with how you build from the back. Injuries haven’t helped him either.
comment by Wahl Icht ; (U22469)
posted 5 hours ago
Because Lampard's an idiot.
Play Kante as a DM. Tell him to sit in front of the defence and protect them. Play Havertz and Kovacic either side and then play Ziyech and Pulisic Out wide with Werner through the middle. DROP YOUR FURRRKING SON MOUNT and that's all we need to do.
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Whats this 'We'?
You're not one of us!
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 2 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 55 minutes ago
Kante is a defensive 8 as opposed to a 6
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That's semantics and shirt numbers...means nothing
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That’s a bit harsh, Sheriff. I think we all understood what Christopher was getting at. In whatever position Kante plays, he basically does the same job. In front of the back four (or in the number 6 position as per Christopher’s comment) he breaks up play in this deeper role. He does this generally when he plays with Kovacic, who is more inclined to drive forward with the ball leaving Kante to mop up behind him.
Or, in a more forward position (number 8), ahead of the more defensively positioned Jorginho.
But let’s be honest, in spite of his unbelievable engine and his ability to appear out of nowhere to intercept passes and win back possession - these skills are definitely more suited to a counter-attacking set up. In a possession based team, is he a round peg in a square hole? Whether he plays in front of the back four, or just behind the front four - his passing, shooting and creativity are weaknesses.
Lampard seems to want Declan Rice for the defensive midfield position, although I am unconvinced. But he would certainly be stronger protection for the back four than Jorginho. Perhaps that would give Kante more freedom to roam.
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 3 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 55 minutes ago
Kante is a defensive 8 as opposed to a 6
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That's semantics and shirt numbers...means nothing
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comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht ; (U22469)
posted 5 hours ago
Because Lampard's an idiot.
Play Kante as a DM. Tell him to sit in front of the defence and protect them. Play Havertz and Kovacic either side and then play Ziyech and Pulisic Out wide with Werner through the middle. DROP YOUR FURRRKING SON MOUNT and that's all we need to do.
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Whats this 'We'?
You're not one of us!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Oh shiiit, Brummiebro said I can't be a Chelsea fan, guess that means I have to give up supporting Chelsea, damn it...
Oh wait, no it doesn't. I can support Chelsea if I want to, and you can't stop me Plus you're a plastic anyway, go support Aston Villa or Birmingham City.
Let us know upon your return to earth Brum !
comment by HarlequinHebdo (U16981)
posted 56 minutes ago
Let us know upon your return to earth Brum !
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I see Mourinhobro is still Masquerading as a Chelsea fan in my absence harle!
Support Aston Villa or Birmingham then.
He's a cracking CDM on FIFA. Real life never has been nor will be his 'correct position'.
So if Lampard asked Kante to sit in front of the defence and protect it, he would literally not be capable of fulfilling that role?
He has, and done so-so, but it's not his 'natural position' in any way. His two most successful seasons played as the runner in a mid 2, only played a handful of games as a CDM since coming to England.
It's a myth.
Could he not adapt to the position though? Even if his best role is what you're saying, he has all the qualities required to be a world class Sitting defensive midfielder if he was adapted to play in that position. I just see no reason why he couldn't do that and he'd be so useful to the team if he played that role behind Havertz and another midfielder.
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Kante 'in his correct position'
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posted on 21/10/20
Have taken some points from that article, to help those who dOnT uNdErStAnD fOoTbAlL
Regista in Italian means ‘director.’ It actually means the one who directs, who dictates the offensive play of the team. A regista is not the one who would run around the pitch vying for the ball, but it’s someone who would start his move by lying deep in his own half just in front of the centre-backs and finding his teammates with balls that would be difficult to spot even on a TV screen. Such is the elegance of the regista.
The registas are players that remain in the midfield area and control the game through their passing, often known as ‘midfield generals’ when combined with leadership and organisation skills. They are all excellent, accurate long-range passers of the ball with great vision and can dictate the play. They tend to remain in position and leave the goal scoring to others.
The regista is not usually known for his tackling prowess, though, as these players tend to come from deep in their own halves and possess remarkable passing skills. To help support with the defensive duties, he generally has a defensive midfielder beside him – like Sami Khedira supports Xabi Alonso at Real Madrid – to form a ‘double pivot.’
From a tactical viewpoint, the success of a regista lies on building a team around him. Teammates should be aware and, in fact, will be instructed to provide him with the ball at every opportunity. The attacking moves will originate from the regista who will remain at the pivot of every attacking play. In essence, the regista becomes the focal point as well as the organisational mastermind of a team.
posted on 21/10/20
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 55 minutes ago
Kante is a defensive 8 as opposed to a 6
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's semantics and shirt numbers...means nothing
posted on 21/10/20
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 45 minutes ago
Pirlo is a regista, but he still plays in the DM role on the pitch.
Coady and Van Dijk start a lot of attacks for their clubs, but they're still CB's not playmakers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I like the phrase regista as much as I like the phrase pivot...
posted on 21/10/20
Partey having a nightmare
posted on 21/10/20
comment by 14 to West Ham (U20729)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht ; (U22469)
posted 13 minutes ago
He’s a box to box destroyer, win the ball across the park and give it to more creative players
------------
So instead of that, tell him to sit in front of the defence, win the ball and protect the defence. Why can't he play that role? Would that not make us more solid?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Surely that is wasting Kante's engine to get around the pitch.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He'd need that engine to span across the area in front of the back four
posted on 21/10/20
I think Kante at his best has been in a midfield two, counter attacking side. I know others disagree but for me Kante just has not been at his best since Conte left. Under Leicester, under Conte world class, since then the performances have not been the same.
posted on 21/10/20
In Jorginho and Kante we have two very specific, niche players who really have evidence they both perform at their best in specific systems.
posted on 21/10/20
comment by Stretchy Mendy (U1641)
posted 16 minutes ago
I think Kante at his best has been in a midfield two, counter attacking side. I know others disagree but for me Kante just has not been at his best since Conte left. Under Leicester, under Conte world class, since then the performances have not been the same.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think quite a few people think this. It makes sense as well. It’s not a surprise that he’s not looked as good when Chelsea have had two managers that are ball dominant. Kante’s best work has always been when he doesn’t have it.
posted on 21/10/20
comment by Stretchy Mendy (U1641)
posted 18 minutes ago
In Jorginho and Kante we have two very specific, niche players who really have evidence they both perform at their best in specific systems.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But not the same system is this what you're saying
posted on 21/10/20
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Stretchy Mendy (U1641)
posted 16 minutes ago
I think Kante at his best has been in a midfield two, counter attacking side. I know others disagree but for me Kante just has not been at his best since Conte left. Under Leicester, under Conte world class, since then the performances have not been the same.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think quite a few people think this. It makes sense as well. It’s not a surprise that he’s not looked as good when Chelsea have had two managers that are ball dominant. Kante’s best work has always been when he doesn’t have it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep defo. I’ve debated this with a few fans who think Kante was still at his best under Sarri but I very much disagree. Took him half a season to even acclimatise to the role (at which point I tentatively wanted him dropped).
posted on 21/10/20
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Stretchy Mendy (U1641)
posted 16 minutes ago
I think Kante at his best has been in a midfield two, counter attacking side. I know others disagree but for me Kante just has not been at his best since Conte left. Under Leicester, under Conte world class, since then the performances have not been the same.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think quite a few people think this. It makes sense as well. It’s not a surprise that he’s not looked as good when Chelsea have had two managers that are ball dominant. Kante’s best work has always been when he doesn’t have it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So should we aim not to have the ball (or not be ball dominant) or just get rid of Kante...
posted on 21/10/20
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Stretchy Mendy (U1641)
posted 18 minutes ago
In Jorginho and Kante we have two very specific, niche players who really have evidence they both perform at their best in specific systems.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But not the same system is this what you're saying
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah not the same system. Jorginho being DLP in basically Sarri’s 4-3-3 possession-based system, Kante being in a midfield two counter-attacking. But then they have probably struck the best partnership surprisingly out of any of the combinations we get out of Kante, Jorginho and Kovacic.
posted on 21/10/20
So should we aim not to have the ball (or not be ball dominant) or just get rid of Kante...
————
Well don’t know about get rid..but if we received a massive bid for Kante I think we should heavily consider it, said as such last summer. Think it was a more unpopular thought then, then it is now.
posted on 21/10/20
comment by Stretchy Mendy (U1641)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Stretchy Mendy (U1641)
posted 16 minutes ago
I think Kante at his best has been in a midfield two, counter attacking side. I know others disagree but for me Kante just has not been at his best since Conte left. Under Leicester, under Conte world class, since then the performances have not been the same.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think quite a few people think this. It makes sense as well. It’s not a surprise that he’s not looked as good when Chelsea have had two managers that are ball dominant. Kante’s best work has always been when he doesn’t have it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep defo. I’ve debated this with a few fans who think Kante was still at his best under Sarri but I very much disagree. Took him half a season to even acclimatise to the role (at which point I tentatively wanted him dropped).
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think he was better under Sarri than many gave him credit for, but I agree he wasn’t at his best.
I think Kante could still be good in a more possession dominant team if they were quicker in transition. Watching Chelsea this seems to be a problem, especially with how you build from the back. Injuries haven’t helped him either.
posted on 21/10/20
comment by Wahl Icht ; (U22469)
posted 5 hours ago
Because Lampard's an idiot.
Play Kante as a DM. Tell him to sit in front of the defence and protect them. Play Havertz and Kovacic either side and then play Ziyech and Pulisic Out wide with Werner through the middle. DROP YOUR FURRRKING SON MOUNT and that's all we need to do.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Whats this 'We'?
You're not one of us!
posted on 21/10/20
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 2 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 55 minutes ago
Kante is a defensive 8 as opposed to a 6
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That's semantics and shirt numbers...means nothing
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That’s a bit harsh, Sheriff. I think we all understood what Christopher was getting at. In whatever position Kante plays, he basically does the same job. In front of the back four (or in the number 6 position as per Christopher’s comment) he breaks up play in this deeper role. He does this generally when he plays with Kovacic, who is more inclined to drive forward with the ball leaving Kante to mop up behind him.
Or, in a more forward position (number 8), ahead of the more defensively positioned Jorginho.
But let’s be honest, in spite of his unbelievable engine and his ability to appear out of nowhere to intercept passes and win back possession - these skills are definitely more suited to a counter-attacking set up. In a possession based team, is he a round peg in a square hole? Whether he plays in front of the back four, or just behind the front four - his passing, shooting and creativity are weaknesses.
Lampard seems to want Declan Rice for the defensive midfield position, although I am unconvinced. But he would certainly be stronger protection for the back four than Jorginho. Perhaps that would give Kante more freedom to roam.
posted on 21/10/20
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 3 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 55 minutes ago
Kante is a defensive 8 as opposed to a 6
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That's semantics and shirt numbers...means nothing
----------------------------------------------------------------------
posted on 21/10/20
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht ; (U22469)
posted 5 hours ago
Because Lampard's an idiot.
Play Kante as a DM. Tell him to sit in front of the defence and protect them. Play Havertz and Kovacic either side and then play Ziyech and Pulisic Out wide with Werner through the middle. DROP YOUR FURRRKING SON MOUNT and that's all we need to do.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Whats this 'We'?
You're not one of us!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Oh shiiit, Brummiebro said I can't be a Chelsea fan, guess that means I have to give up supporting Chelsea, damn it...
Oh wait, no it doesn't. I can support Chelsea if I want to, and you can't stop me Plus you're a plastic anyway, go support Aston Villa or Birmingham City.
posted on 21/10/20
Let us know upon your return to earth Brum !
posted on 21/10/20
comment by HarlequinHebdo (U16981)
posted 56 minutes ago
Let us know upon your return to earth Brum !
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I see Mourinhobro is still Masquerading as a Chelsea fan in my absence harle!
posted on 21/10/20
Support Aston Villa or Birmingham then.
posted on 21/10/20
He's a cracking CDM on FIFA. Real life never has been nor will be his 'correct position'.
posted on 21/10/20
So if Lampard asked Kante to sit in front of the defence and protect it, he would literally not be capable of fulfilling that role?
posted on 21/10/20
He has, and done so-so, but it's not his 'natural position' in any way. His two most successful seasons played as the runner in a mid 2, only played a handful of games as a CDM since coming to England.
It's a myth.
posted on 21/10/20
Could he not adapt to the position though? Even if his best role is what you're saying, he has all the qualities required to be a world class Sitting defensive midfielder if he was adapted to play in that position. I just see no reason why he couldn't do that and he'd be so useful to the team if he played that role behind Havertz and another midfielder.
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