Said for ages, it’s a myth that keepers get better and develop later.
comment by LIW Radchancer (U8453)
posted 44 seconds ago
Said for ages, it’s a myth that keepers get better and develop later.
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no its not, if you've ever played a sport you'd know experience plays a huge part
That said ive no problem with playing young keepers and def, esp when you have 30+ year old defenders nkeepers like Lovren n Adrian still making the same mistakes as often. Aslong as theyre talented n overall ability is there.
Meslier got his chance when Kiko tried his chat up line!..
Most said he was to young, many made out Goalkeepers had to be older, I've said all along if you're good enough you're old enough, Meslier is for a keeper very young and the way he's going with that experience people say a keeper needs, has France ever had such a young keeper, because the way he's going he'll be in for a shout as the youngest ever French keeper!..
Experience comes with games, he could turn into the best we've ever had!..
Sooner or later he will have a howler, he's too young not to, will be interested to see how he reacts and how supporters react. Nobody has ever forgiven Rachubka for being human and having an off day (albeit a truly off day), nor Kiko (the clown) for that matter.
Goalkeepers are defined by their mistakes as much as the savers they make.
When you think of Gary Sprake, who was one of the best keepers we have ever had, you are more likely to think of him in terms of his disloyalty or the daisycutters going between his legs than the great saves or the clean sheets.
He has had a good start to his Leeds career but it's far too early.
it is early but he's really good. and imo he will get even better.
comment by Elsbels - Just Some Guy (U21658)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
Sooner or later he will have a howler, he's too young not to, will be interested to see how he reacts and how supporters react. Nobody has ever forgiven Rachubka for being human and having an off day (albeit a truly off day), nor Kiko (the clown) for that matter.
Goalkeepers are defined by their mistakes as much as the savers they make.
When you think of Gary Sprake, who was one of the best keepers we have ever had, you are more likely to think of him in terms of his disloyalty or the daisycutters going between his legs than the great saves or the clean sheets.
He has had a good start to his Leeds career but it's far too early.
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Rachubka had an off day? He was shocking before the blackpool game.
I'm sure he must be a better keeper than what we saw at Leeds, but it wasn't just one game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0XaIewFtTM
He's been amazing. Would not be surprised if
France senior team starts getting interested soon.
Let's not forget, we had another youngster Bailey Peacock-Farrell between the sticks for a fair period. He did really well aswell.
comment by Long Short Tall 666 (U19233)
posted 53 minutes ago
Let's not forget, we had another youngster Bailey Peacock-Farrell between the sticks for a fair period. He did really well aswell.
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Third or fourth choice at Burnley, think he's been found out.
comment by Elsbels - Just Some Guy (U21658)
posted 4 hours, 41 minutes ago
Sooner or later he will have a howler, he's too young not to, will be interested to see how he reacts and how supporters react. Nobody has ever forgiven Rachubka for being human and having an off day (albeit a truly off day), nor Kiko (the clown) for that matter.
Goalkeepers are defined by their mistakes as much as the savers they make.
When you think of Gary Sprake, who was one of the best keepers we have ever had, you are more likely to think of him in terms of his disloyalty or the daisycutters going between his legs than the great saves or the clean sheets.
He has had a good start to his Leeds career but it's far too early.
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Should anyone be defined by their mistakes?
comment by Elsbels - Just Some Guy (U21658)
posted 7 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by Long Short Tall 666 (U19233)
posted 53 minutes ago
Let's not forget, we had another youngster Bailey Peacock-Farrell between the sticks for a fair period. He did really well aswell.
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Third or fourth choice at Burnley, think he's been found out.
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2nd choice at Burnley behind tom pope. Several man of the match performances at international level.
I like meslier, he made a couple of great saves against sheff Utd. The rest, any keeper would have made, and that’s the thing with keepers. They have a game where every shot was just out of reach and they look average- then a spell when the strikers keep hitting them at a nice height.
He’s made a few mistakes in Liverpool and Fulham games, his distribution is generally very good but has been erratic. On the whole though he’s done very well... and for his age and experience he’s been a big plus .
Agree Germany. Reckon he's stepped up to the plate in an exceptional way. 20 years old, ffs, but yup, if he's good enough he's old enough - and he's keeping Casilla on the bench on merit. Last year there was some footage of him celebrating - I forget which game but it was a must-win and he was clearly made up and now Leeds through and through. The back line will only improve as he becomes more comfortable speaking English. He's producing some excellent reaction saves at important moments - from Grealish and McGinn on Friday and during the Fulham game, for example. Keeping a clean sheet at Villa in the first half set up that unstoppable second half Bielsablitz. I'm chuffed to bits with Meslier's performances so far.
I think we can now see why Bielsa wasn't making the keeper a priority in the market!..
He might have looked at some, but if he's happy with what he has than so am I!..
Its an odd one with keepers.
For some reason there has been this persistent idea that keeps dont mature and play their best until they get to be in their 30s.
In many ways its odd as nobody would question for a minute a 20 year old outfield player staring but people do when it's a keeper.
In regards to messlier...
He is doing a great job this far and his game has improved as he has gone along, im not saying has hasn't had great aspects to his game from the get go, however he seems to be working on, and improving on, things he need to.
His movement and diving has improved for example.
He could be our keeper for years to come
Milner scored in his first 2 games for Leeds, he was 16!..
With everything that's happened since Bielsa and his team have come in, praise must be thrown in their direction, it seems his set up and their work is the answer to everything we're now seeing!..
we can only assume bielsa has found the right bunch of players who all are on board with his ethos, no prima donna etc....and all willing to do what is expected
comment by Mattyp (U8926)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
Its an odd one with keepers.
For some reason there has been this persistent idea that keeps dont mature and play their best until they get to be in their 30s.
In many ways its odd as nobody would question for a minute a 20 year old outfield player staring but people do when it's a keeper.
In regards to messlier...
He is doing a great job this far and his game has improved as he has gone along, im not saying has hasn't had great aspects to his game from the get go, however he seems to be working on, and improving on, things he need to.
His movement and diving has improved for example.
He could be our keeper for years to come
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Think with the keepers it’s not that they get better in their 30’s it’s that they can still play top level long after an outfield player can.
But the getting better with age thing is two fold.
The main one is experience/judgement/ decision making... in a position where the main priority is not fcking up.
Two is a physicality thing in terms of coming for crosses, getting knocked about and blocked at corners etc. Some mature early, some a little later. So it’s variable but physical strength is less of an issue for a fleet footed winger than it is for a keeper.
Look at BPF, skinny runt for us, bulked up now (though suspect part if that was fat % target)
comment by Long Short Tall 666 (U19233)
posted 1 day, 20 hours ago
Let's not forget, we had another youngster Bailey Peacock-Farrell between the sticks for a fair period. He did really well aswell.
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He constantly let in very soft goals
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posted on 24/10/20
Said for ages, it’s a myth that keepers get better and develop later.
posted on 24/10/20
comment by LIW Radchancer (U8453)
posted 44 seconds ago
Said for ages, it’s a myth that keepers get better and develop later.
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no its not, if you've ever played a sport you'd know experience plays a huge part
posted on 24/10/20
That said ive no problem with playing young keepers and def, esp when you have 30+ year old defenders nkeepers like Lovren n Adrian still making the same mistakes as often. Aslong as theyre talented n overall ability is there.
posted on 24/10/20
Meslier got his chance when Kiko tried his chat up line!..
Most said he was to young, many made out Goalkeepers had to be older, I've said all along if you're good enough you're old enough, Meslier is for a keeper very young and the way he's going with that experience people say a keeper needs, has France ever had such a young keeper, because the way he's going he'll be in for a shout as the youngest ever French keeper!..
Experience comes with games, he could turn into the best we've ever had!..
posted on 24/10/20
Sooner or later he will have a howler, he's too young not to, will be interested to see how he reacts and how supporters react. Nobody has ever forgiven Rachubka for being human and having an off day (albeit a truly off day), nor Kiko (the clown) for that matter.
Goalkeepers are defined by their mistakes as much as the savers they make.
When you think of Gary Sprake, who was one of the best keepers we have ever had, you are more likely to think of him in terms of his disloyalty or the daisycutters going between his legs than the great saves or the clean sheets.
He has had a good start to his Leeds career but it's far too early.
posted on 24/10/20
it is early but he's really good. and imo he will get even better.
posted on 24/10/20
comment by Elsbels - Just Some Guy (U21658)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
Sooner or later he will have a howler, he's too young not to, will be interested to see how he reacts and how supporters react. Nobody has ever forgiven Rachubka for being human and having an off day (albeit a truly off day), nor Kiko (the clown) for that matter.
Goalkeepers are defined by their mistakes as much as the savers they make.
When you think of Gary Sprake, who was one of the best keepers we have ever had, you are more likely to think of him in terms of his disloyalty or the daisycutters going between his legs than the great saves or the clean sheets.
He has had a good start to his Leeds career but it's far too early.
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Rachubka had an off day? He was shocking before the blackpool game.
I'm sure he must be a better keeper than what we saw at Leeds, but it wasn't just one game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0XaIewFtTM
posted on 24/10/20
He's been amazing. Would not be surprised if
France senior team starts getting interested soon.
posted on 24/10/20
Let's not forget, we had another youngster Bailey Peacock-Farrell between the sticks for a fair period. He did really well aswell.
posted on 25/10/20
comment by Long Short Tall 666 (U19233)
posted 53 minutes ago
Let's not forget, we had another youngster Bailey Peacock-Farrell between the sticks for a fair period. He did really well aswell.
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Third or fourth choice at Burnley, think he's been found out.
posted on 25/10/20
comment by Elsbels - Just Some Guy (U21658)
posted 4 hours, 41 minutes ago
Sooner or later he will have a howler, he's too young not to, will be interested to see how he reacts and how supporters react. Nobody has ever forgiven Rachubka for being human and having an off day (albeit a truly off day), nor Kiko (the clown) for that matter.
Goalkeepers are defined by their mistakes as much as the savers they make.
When you think of Gary Sprake, who was one of the best keepers we have ever had, you are more likely to think of him in terms of his disloyalty or the daisycutters going between his legs than the great saves or the clean sheets.
He has had a good start to his Leeds career but it's far too early.
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Should anyone be defined by their mistakes?
posted on 25/10/20
comment by Elsbels - Just Some Guy (U21658)
posted 7 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by Long Short Tall 666 (U19233)
posted 53 minutes ago
Let's not forget, we had another youngster Bailey Peacock-Farrell between the sticks for a fair period. He did really well aswell.
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Third or fourth choice at Burnley, think he's been found out.
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2nd choice at Burnley behind tom pope. Several man of the match performances at international level.
I like meslier, he made a couple of great saves against sheff Utd. The rest, any keeper would have made, and that’s the thing with keepers. They have a game where every shot was just out of reach and they look average- then a spell when the strikers keep hitting them at a nice height.
He’s made a few mistakes in Liverpool and Fulham games, his distribution is generally very good but has been erratic. On the whole though he’s done very well... and for his age and experience he’s been a big plus .
posted on 25/10/20
Agree Germany. Reckon he's stepped up to the plate in an exceptional way. 20 years old, ffs, but yup, if he's good enough he's old enough - and he's keeping Casilla on the bench on merit. Last year there was some footage of him celebrating - I forget which game but it was a must-win and he was clearly made up and now Leeds through and through. The back line will only improve as he becomes more comfortable speaking English. He's producing some excellent reaction saves at important moments - from Grealish and McGinn on Friday and during the Fulham game, for example. Keeping a clean sheet at Villa in the first half set up that unstoppable second half Bielsablitz. I'm chuffed to bits with Meslier's performances so far.
posted on 25/10/20
I think we can now see why Bielsa wasn't making the keeper a priority in the market!..
He might have looked at some, but if he's happy with what he has than so am I!..
posted on 25/10/20
Its an odd one with keepers.
For some reason there has been this persistent idea that keeps dont mature and play their best until they get to be in their 30s.
In many ways its odd as nobody would question for a minute a 20 year old outfield player staring but people do when it's a keeper.
In regards to messlier...
He is doing a great job this far and his game has improved as he has gone along, im not saying has hasn't had great aspects to his game from the get go, however he seems to be working on, and improving on, things he need to.
His movement and diving has improved for example.
He could be our keeper for years to come
posted on 25/10/20
Milner scored in his first 2 games for Leeds, he was 16!..
With everything that's happened since Bielsa and his team have come in, praise must be thrown in their direction, it seems his set up and their work is the answer to everything we're now seeing!..
posted on 25/10/20
we can only assume bielsa has found the right bunch of players who all are on board with his ethos, no prima donna etc....and all willing to do what is expected
posted on 25/10/20
comment by Mattyp (U8926)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
Its an odd one with keepers.
For some reason there has been this persistent idea that keeps dont mature and play their best until they get to be in their 30s.
In many ways its odd as nobody would question for a minute a 20 year old outfield player staring but people do when it's a keeper.
In regards to messlier...
He is doing a great job this far and his game has improved as he has gone along, im not saying has hasn't had great aspects to his game from the get go, however he seems to be working on, and improving on, things he need to.
His movement and diving has improved for example.
He could be our keeper for years to come
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Think with the keepers it’s not that they get better in their 30’s it’s that they can still play top level long after an outfield player can.
But the getting better with age thing is two fold.
The main one is experience/judgement/ decision making... in a position where the main priority is not fcking up.
Two is a physicality thing in terms of coming for crosses, getting knocked about and blocked at corners etc. Some mature early, some a little later. So it’s variable but physical strength is less of an issue for a fleet footed winger than it is for a keeper.
Look at BPF, skinny runt for us, bulked up now (though suspect part if that was fat % target)
posted on 26/10/20
comment by Long Short Tall 666 (U19233)
posted 1 day, 20 hours ago
Let's not forget, we had another youngster Bailey Peacock-Farrell between the sticks for a fair period. He did really well aswell.
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He constantly let in very soft goals
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