That is pretty cool
I imagine there are many (me included) people that had no idea they were this far along with it yet.
I think it would be a long time before people could fully trust being in one themselves on the open road, as a passenger in a driverless bus or taxi for example. Just seems so wrong!
Tesla have been working on this technology for years. From the early days of Tesla, they have fitted them out with the camera's and sensors needed for full self driving.
So basically almost every Tesla out there is collecting data to train the AI, and every day more Tesla's are added and every day the Ai learns from them. there are now billions of miles of data that gives Tesla a huge advantage.
Weymo also has self driving, but it is very specific to apart of California, and not able to drive anywhere else. and is going about it in a very different way.
There is still work to be done, but this technology will become a lot safer than humans, In fact one of the videos the guy behind the wheel was talking about how the car moved over unexpectedly then back. He then realised it was avoiding some legs of a dead deer, he hadn't even noticed.
Sorry, Waymo drives around Pheonix Arizona, not California.
What's the max speed for this to work?
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 4 minutes ago
What's the max speed for this to work?
Not sure what you mean by max speed? Tesla have been doing Motorway driving for years, and have refined it to work extremely well.
If you are talking about everyday driving I'm pretty sure it will handle whatever the speed limit might be.
I think the only things that slow it down is if the system gets confused, and it might slow down to think about it.
Having said that this is still a beta, but Tesla are saying it will role out by the end of the year (America)
The basic technology is pretty much done, it is the edge cases that may cause some issues, But the AI will learn more and more quickly, especially with Tesla's investment in Dojo, which will offer a huge leap forward in the training of the AI.
I would be pretty worried about self-driving on motorways - given the increasing move towards 20mph in built up areas, I would have imagined (perhaps wrongly) that this would quicken the development of this tech, but motorway driving would be far more difficult to successfully overcome.
What will it first be used for, when the technology is fully ready?
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 16 seconds ago
What will it first be used for, when the technology is fully ready?
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No doubt the military will be interested
Tesla have had Motorway driving for years, it is the easiest to achieve. Straight roads, with little manouvering, basically an advance cruise control.
Normal roads are far more challenging, junctions, roundabouts, Parked cars, signs, trees/ bushes etc, not to mention people, make it far more difficult for the AI.
But the major work is done, now it's a case of the march of nines.
Oh, Tesla are not allowing anyone in America to buy any car they lease. They want to use them as Robotaxis, basically UBER without the driver.
How would self driving cars affect the economy? It would put taxi drivers out of business and more importantly how would car insurance work
Self driving cars will affect many things. But once the genie is out of the bottle there will be no putting it back.
Once available, any country not embracing this tech will fall behind competitively. Cheaper transport of goods and people will offer a significant economic advantage.
Of course it will displace many traditional jobs, But that has always been the case with new technology. a simple example would be the computer.
Now instead of huge typing pools, one person can type and print more in half hour than a typing pool could manage in a day.
Many lost their jobs, but found opportunities elsewhere, that is the price of progress.
My biggest concern is what would happen if the vehicle malfunctions and runs over a person. Obviously there will be safeguards against that kind of thing happening but it can happen and even one accident to a person will bring bad publicity to self driving cars and stop it from being a reality
I used to think this was a fantastic advancement and looked forward to the day when I could sit in a self driving car and relax on my 30 mile commute to work - before I stopped going to the office.
It would be great to be able to go out and have a few drinks without having to worry about driving home.
But, as soon as the first self driving car crashes and kills someone, the mass hyseria will strike and I imagine put this back quite a while. The Luddites will revolt.
comment by See The Stars (U21395)
posted 1 minute ago
I used to think this was a fantastic advancement and looked forward to the day when I could sit in a self driving car and relax on my 30 mile commute to work - before I stopped going to the office.
It would be great to be able to go out and have a few drinks without having to worry about driving home.
But, as soon as the first self driving car crashes and kills someone, the mass hyseria will strike and I imagine put this back quite a while. The Luddites will revolt.
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Yeah that's what I'm most sceptical of. All it takes is one death and it could end the life of self driving cars before it even took off.
Well as of now, the driver is still the one responsible. They are the ones that are in charge of engaging and monitoring the system.
This is by no means level 5 autonomy, and Tesla makes sure you know that before using it.
Having said that it is a solid base to work from, The framework for self driving is in place, and it is now a matter of teaching the AI the more subtle art of driving, which is where the drivers using it come in .
Training the AI used to be done solely by humans, Tesla have invested In a supercomputer (Dojo) to massively increase data tagging, so we should see a rapid increase in learning.
No system will ever be 100% safe (even humans) So then as I said it's down to the march of nines, How safe must the car be, before it is deemed safe enough 99% 99.9% 99.99% 99.999%? etc
One thing is for sure, it will only keep improving with age, unlike humans, who get worse.
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posted on 26/10/20
That is pretty cool
I imagine there are many (me included) people that had no idea they were this far along with it yet.
I think it would be a long time before people could fully trust being in one themselves on the open road, as a passenger in a driverless bus or taxi for example. Just seems so wrong!
posted on 26/10/20
Tesla have been working on this technology for years. From the early days of Tesla, they have fitted them out with the camera's and sensors needed for full self driving.
So basically almost every Tesla out there is collecting data to train the AI, and every day more Tesla's are added and every day the Ai learns from them. there are now billions of miles of data that gives Tesla a huge advantage.
Weymo also has self driving, but it is very specific to apart of California, and not able to drive anywhere else. and is going about it in a very different way.
There is still work to be done, but this technology will become a lot safer than humans, In fact one of the videos the guy behind the wheel was talking about how the car moved over unexpectedly then back. He then realised it was avoiding some legs of a dead deer, he hadn't even noticed.
posted on 26/10/20
Sorry, Waymo drives around Pheonix Arizona, not California.
posted on 26/10/20
What's the max speed for this to work?
posted on 26/10/20
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 4 minutes ago
What's the max speed for this to work?
Not sure what you mean by max speed? Tesla have been doing Motorway driving for years, and have refined it to work extremely well.
If you are talking about everyday driving I'm pretty sure it will handle whatever the speed limit might be.
I think the only things that slow it down is if the system gets confused, and it might slow down to think about it.
Having said that this is still a beta, but Tesla are saying it will role out by the end of the year (America)
The basic technology is pretty much done, it is the edge cases that may cause some issues, But the AI will learn more and more quickly, especially with Tesla's investment in Dojo, which will offer a huge leap forward in the training of the AI.
posted on 26/10/20
I would be pretty worried about self-driving on motorways - given the increasing move towards 20mph in built up areas, I would have imagined (perhaps wrongly) that this would quicken the development of this tech, but motorway driving would be far more difficult to successfully overcome.
posted on 26/10/20
What will it first be used for, when the technology is fully ready?
posted on 26/10/20
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 16 seconds ago
What will it first be used for, when the technology is fully ready?
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No doubt the military will be interested
posted on 26/10/20
Tesla have had Motorway driving for years, it is the easiest to achieve. Straight roads, with little manouvering, basically an advance cruise control.
Normal roads are far more challenging, junctions, roundabouts, Parked cars, signs, trees/ bushes etc, not to mention people, make it far more difficult for the AI.
But the major work is done, now it's a case of the march of nines.
posted on 26/10/20
Oh, Tesla are not allowing anyone in America to buy any car they lease. They want to use them as Robotaxis, basically UBER without the driver.
posted on 26/10/20
How would self driving cars affect the economy? It would put taxi drivers out of business and more importantly how would car insurance work
posted on 26/10/20
Self driving cars will affect many things. But once the genie is out of the bottle there will be no putting it back.
Once available, any country not embracing this tech will fall behind competitively. Cheaper transport of goods and people will offer a significant economic advantage.
Of course it will displace many traditional jobs, But that has always been the case with new technology. a simple example would be the computer.
Now instead of huge typing pools, one person can type and print more in half hour than a typing pool could manage in a day.
Many lost their jobs, but found opportunities elsewhere, that is the price of progress.
posted on 27/10/20
My biggest concern is what would happen if the vehicle malfunctions and runs over a person. Obviously there will be safeguards against that kind of thing happening but it can happen and even one accident to a person will bring bad publicity to self driving cars and stop it from being a reality
posted on 27/10/20
I used to think this was a fantastic advancement and looked forward to the day when I could sit in a self driving car and relax on my 30 mile commute to work - before I stopped going to the office.
It would be great to be able to go out and have a few drinks without having to worry about driving home.
But, as soon as the first self driving car crashes and kills someone, the mass hyseria will strike and I imagine put this back quite a while. The Luddites will revolt.
posted on 27/10/20
comment by See The Stars (U21395)
posted 1 minute ago
I used to think this was a fantastic advancement and looked forward to the day when I could sit in a self driving car and relax on my 30 mile commute to work - before I stopped going to the office.
It would be great to be able to go out and have a few drinks without having to worry about driving home.
But, as soon as the first self driving car crashes and kills someone, the mass hyseria will strike and I imagine put this back quite a while. The Luddites will revolt.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah that's what I'm most sceptical of. All it takes is one death and it could end the life of self driving cars before it even took off.
posted on 27/10/20
Well as of now, the driver is still the one responsible. They are the ones that are in charge of engaging and monitoring the system.
This is by no means level 5 autonomy, and Tesla makes sure you know that before using it.
Having said that it is a solid base to work from, The framework for self driving is in place, and it is now a matter of teaching the AI the more subtle art of driving, which is where the drivers using it come in .
Training the AI used to be done solely by humans, Tesla have invested In a supercomputer (Dojo) to massively increase data tagging, so we should see a rapid increase in learning.
No system will ever be 100% safe (even humans) So then as I said it's down to the march of nines, How safe must the car be, before it is deemed safe enough 99% 99.9% 99.99% 99.999%? etc
One thing is for sure, it will only keep improving with age, unlike humans, who get worse.
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