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posted on 27/10/20

comment by Darkphoenix (U11503)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 minutes ago
I have no time for Pogba, but what Neville said is bang on. There is no way you can say to me a player part of that Juventus side and the French side that won the World cup is not a great player.

For us, he has failed so far. This failure is not just down to him though
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I always thought that the reason Pogba never showed his level was because we didn't have quality around him.

That had changed quite dramatically once I saw Fernandes' impact on the team.

For me now, I think Pogba is a great player, however you need quality around him. He's not the player to bring the best out of others, the way Fernandes has.
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I think we should be careful here how we hype Bruno. No doubt he has done fantastic, but from looking at him play it appears to me Bruno's head is better than his technical ability- he tries a lot of things and they never work. Pogba has registered some phenomenal assists stats for us in the past let's not brush this under the carpet

posted on 27/10/20

comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
I have no time for Pogba, but what Neville said is bang on. There is no way you can say to me a player part of that Juventus side and the French side that won the World cup is not a great player.

For us, he has failed so far. This failure is not just down to him though
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A small cog for each of those though lets be honest.

As has been said both those teams would have had no problems without him being there.
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This is speculation and we would never know. What we do know is that he was there. He was not just there based on being a clown, he was in both squads because he is a bloody good player. We paid top dollar for him because he is a good player.

For me, he should have gone this summer. I have no doubt he can look like a world class player week in and week out in another league. I also believe he may never be for us what we all thought we were getting when we bought him.
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Like you are now.
Basically you are saying “I agree with you so you are voice of reason”
“I don’t agree with you, you’re wrong”

posted on 27/10/20

comment by AlwaysUnited (U4063)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 5 minutes ago
I like him tbf, think he has good points and isn’t afraid to speak his mind.

However I disagreed with him massively here. The first point was his reference to kdb not being great before pep which is nonsense, he was unreal at wolfsburg and before pep.

As for the France and juve comments, does anyone in the world think juve and France wouldn’t have won what they did without pogba?

He was probably the 7th or 8th best player for France in the World Cup, and juventus had pirlo, marchisio and Vidal in midfield in a one team league.
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It was a while ago now but I feel like pogba was definitely one of their 5 or so best players
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I remember mbappe, varane, Pavard, kante being outstanding, umtiti, lloris and giroud despite not scoring we’re also good, pogba was decent enough but not a standout and they would have won it without him. Griezmann was awful
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Pogba did not have a particularly good world cup. IMO largely due to playing in a 2 man midfield similar to how he's mostly operated for United in the last 18 months.
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Not strictly true, Matiuidi played a similar role to ramires at chelsea which was a kind of inverted left mid, similar in a role to pogbas at juve.

posted on 27/10/20

Pogba was great from the knockout rounds onwards, also the footage of him in the dressing room getting the players motivated showed that he was a very influential player for France and their success.

posted on 27/10/20

when neville start out he really tried to elevate this game.

There was analysis but the reality is he's been a long time out of the game now and is losing his ins round the place.

For me he is ranty and it is very funny when utd are losing that he absolutely loses the rag and starts abusing players

I find that he's now branching into "being the champion of the game" and its patently obvious he is doing it to get attention not cos he actually cares

the reality is he's morphing into Andy gray.

posted on 27/10/20

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by AlwaysUnited (U4063)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 5 minutes ago
I like him tbf, think he has good points and isn’t afraid to speak his mind.

However I disagreed with him massively here. The first point was his reference to kdb not being great before pep which is nonsense, he was unreal at wolfsburg and before pep.

As for the France and juve comments, does anyone in the world think juve and France wouldn’t have won what they did without pogba?

He was probably the 7th or 8th best player for France in the World Cup, and juventus had pirlo, marchisio and Vidal in midfield in a one team league.
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It was a while ago now but I feel like pogba was definitely one of their 5 or so best players
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I remember mbappe, varane, Pavard, kante being outstanding, umtiti, lloris and giroud despite not scoring we’re also good, pogba was decent enough but not a standout and they would have won it without him. Griezmann was awful
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Pogba did not have a particularly good world cup. IMO largely due to playing in a 2 man midfield similar to how he's mostly operated for United in the last 18 months.
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Not strictly true, Matiuidi played a similar role to ramires at chelsea which was a kind of inverted left mid, similar in a role to pogbas at juve.
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True, France didn't operate the same system as United but Pogba was still operating mostly as a deep-lying playmaker just as he has for United. A role which doesn't suit him.

posted on 27/10/20

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
I have no time for Pogba, but what Neville said is bang on. There is no way you can say to me a player part of that Juventus side and the French side that won the World cup is not a great player.

For us, he has failed so far. This failure is not just down to him though
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A small cog for each of those though lets be honest.

As has been said both those teams would have had no problems without him being there.
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This is speculation and we would never know. What we do know is that he was there. He was not just there based on being a clown, he was in both squads because he is a bloody good player. We paid top dollar for him because he is a good player.

For me, he should have gone this summer. I have no doubt he can look like a world class player week in and week out in another league. I also believe he may never be for us what we all thought we were getting when we bought him.
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Like you are now.
Basically you are saying “I agree with you so you are voice of reason”
“I don’t agree with you, you’re wrong”
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What are you talking about???

posted on 27/10/20

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 5 minutes ago
I like him tbf, think he has good points and isn’t afraid to speak his mind.

However I disagreed with him massively here. The first point was his reference to kdb not being great before pep which is nonsense, he was unreal at wolfsburg and before pep.

As for the France and juve comments, does anyone in the world think juve and France wouldn’t have won what they did without pogba?

He was probably the 7th or 8th best player for France in the World Cup, and juventus had pirlo, marchisio and Vidal in midfield in a one team league.
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It was a while ago now but I feel like pogba was definitely one of their 5 or so best players
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I remember mbappe, varane, Pavard, kante being outstanding, umtiti, lloris and giroud despite not scoring we’re also good, pogba was decent enough but not a standout and they would have won it without him. Griezmann was awful
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Varane's numbers look pretty poor - only won 58% of his aerial duels, 3.5 clearances per game is below average for a centre back.

Pavard was pretty solid but didn't offer much in the final third except for one absolutely incredible goal.

Pogba was france's main ball progressor and he really orchestrated their build up play and counter attacks. I don't think he was as replaceable as you seem to.

Mbappe, Pogba and then kante and matuidi for their defensive work were the stand outs to me.

posted on 27/10/20

Pogba is a great player.... there is absolutely no doubt that on his day he is one of the best midfielders out there.

he has good passing ability, good on the ball, decent in the air and can finish.

but here lies the problem... his day only comes 2 or 3 times a season.
ive said it before, id much rather have a 7 or 8 out of 10 midfielder every week than a 10 out of 10 once in a blue moon and 5 or 6 out of 10 for the rest.

posted on 27/10/20

Like, that France team lacked creativity with pogba in the team, imagine it without him there. They had two CBs at club level playing as fullbacks and matuidi on the left. It was very pragmatic stuff. It's why I think pogba was actually one of their more important players rather than their less important players

posted on 27/10/20

You don’t always have to agree with someone for them to be a good pundit. Everyone has different opinions, nothing wrong with that.

posted on 27/10/20

I think Neville talks a lot of sense and his chemistry with Carragher is great. Like anybody, they will have opinions you disagree with.

posted on 27/10/20

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posted on 27/10/20

Neville and Carra are streets ahead of the rest of the scene when you're thinking about insight and entertainment combined imo

posted on 27/10/20

comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 37 minutes ago
Him and Carra are class. Really enjoyed their show last night.

Think Neville's analysis is worst when it's United. He speaks more like a fan when it's about them. Generally though, they both have great knowledge and are very interesting.
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Neville is more critical of United than any other club. At times he is absolutely hammering us and going a bit OTT during his commentary

posted on 27/10/20

He’s got Pogba wrong imo. I stand with what Carra said: it’s been 4 years now. The price we paid for him we should have gotten more from him by now.
Look at the change Fernandes made; that’s what I would expect from Pogba at this stage.

Neville is a great pundit, he talks well about patterns and tactics. He’s just got a blind spot for Pogba is all.

posted on 27/10/20

comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 37 minutes ago
Him and Carra are class. Really enjoyed their show last night.

Think Neville's analysis is worst when it's United. He speaks more like a fan when it's about them. Generally though, they both have great knowledge and are very interesting.
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Neville is more critical of United than any other club. At times he is absolutely hammering us and going a bit OTT during his commentary
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i think thats what he is suggesting

posted on 27/10/20

I think Pogba has dissapointed at United but while he is partly to blame I think the key to it is that neither Jose or Ole have used him correctly or have the right players to get the most out of him.

At Juve he had the technique, control and creativity of Pirlo and the worerate of players such as Marchisio and Vidal to let him do his thing. While for France at the WC he had Kante and Matuidi next to him doing all the hard work.

At United he's usually been asked to play too deep and this has been accentuated by the arrival of Bruno who has come in and justified his place in the side.

posted on 27/10/20

Chris agree to disagree bro. I think he’s a good player though

comment by Ron (U1646)

posted on 27/10/20

comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 40 minutes ago
Pogba is a great player.... there is absolutely no doubt that on his day he is one of the best midfielders out there.

he has good passing ability, good on the ball, decent in the air and can finish.

but here lies the problem... his day only comes 2 or 3 times a season.
ive said it before, id much rather have a 7 or 8 out of 10 midfielder every week than a 10 out of 10 once in a blue moon and 5 or 6 out of 10 for the rest.


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How can you call someone a great player whilst at the same time saying they only perform in 2-3 games a season?

The most importance thing about being great is consistency.

I think you're confusing the word talent and greatness.

comment by Neo (U9135)

posted on 27/10/20

Nev and Carra are a great combo, excellent analysis with a good bit of banter as well. Really enjoy watching the prelim on Monday night football.

The pundits on the BBC and BT in comparison are embarrassingly shiite.

posted on 27/10/20

Not a fan of either or pundits in general... They just state the obvious. If they are not funny, there's no point to them.

posted on 27/10/20

comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 40 minutes ago
Pogba is a great player.... there is absolutely no doubt that on his day he is one of the best midfielders out there.

he has good passing ability, good on the ball, decent in the air and can finish.

but here lies the problem... his day only comes 2 or 3 times a season.
ive said it before, id much rather have a 7 or 8 out of 10 midfielder every week than a 10 out of 10 once in a blue moon and 5 or 6 out of 10 for the rest.


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How can you call someone a great player whilst at the same time saying they only perform in 2-3 games a season?

The most importance thing about being great is consistency.

I think you're confusing the word talent and greatness.
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I disagree, it's more about performing when your team needs you the most. For some this is more often than for others.

A good example is Zidane who is remembered as a great but produced numerous performances in his career which were below par

posted on 27/10/20

comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
I have no time for Pogba, but what Neville said is bang on. There is no way you can say to me a player part of that Juventus side and the French side that won the World cup is not a great player.

For us, he has failed so far. This failure is not just down to him though
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Facking hell, I agree with Scholay. Must be a glitch in the matrix

And as to Rashford, play him at nine and he’ll deliver you 20+ goals a season. What’s the problem?

He netted more than a goal every other league game last season, and 22 in all comps despite being out for months and playing out wide most of the time.

And the lad is only 22 years old.

posted on 27/10/20

comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 40 minutes ago
Pogba is a great player.... there is absolutely no doubt that on his day he is one of the best midfielders out there.

he has good passing ability, good on the ball, decent in the air and can finish.

but here lies the problem... his day only comes 2 or 3 times a season.
ive said it before, id much rather have a 7 or 8 out of 10 midfielder every week than a 10 out of 10 once in a blue moon and 5 or 6 out of 10 for the rest.


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How can you call someone a great player whilst at the same time saying they only perform in 2-3 games a season?

The most importance thing about being great is consistency.

I think you're confusing the word talent and greatness.
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Play Bruno at left back or DDG up front and let’s see how great they are.

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