comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 11 seconds ago
I want to hear from Robbing. He’s such a fountain of knowledge about universal credit, it should be very quick and easy to answer my questions about it.
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Did you miss the part where I said I cba? It's not my job to elevate your ignorance is it? It's roughly £450 fwiw but it depends on whether you have the audacity to have a spare bedroom so your child can stay. You can quite easily do a calculation online.
UC doesnt take into account any other bills either but you have to be online to claim it. It also doesn't take into account such things as maintenance so in other words paying towards a child you can't claim for.
Google is your friend. I'm not.
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Well well well Robbing. I know for a fact that you’re wrong. A former colleague of mine gets her rent of £825 per month paid for and gets £400 per month allowance on top of that. Every month, without question. I’ve seen the online paperwork.
“people like you are always so confidently wrong about subjects you have little to no knoweldge of it's nauseating.”
😂😂😂😂
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Yes you can get special dispensation, especially at the moment.
Do the calculation online and see what you get.
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comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
Google is your friend. I'm not.
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Have to say I chuckled at that too...
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 11 seconds ago
I want to hear from Robbing. He’s such a fountain of knowledge about universal credit, it should be very quick and easy to answer my questions about it.
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Did you miss the part where I said I cba? It's not my job to elevate your ignorance is it? It's roughly £450 fwiw but it depends on whether you have the audacity to have a spare bedroom so your child can stay. You can quite easily do a calculation online.
UC doesnt take into account any other bills either but you have to be online to claim it. It also doesn't take into account such things as maintenance so in other words paying towards a child you can't claim for.
Google is your friend. I'm not.
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Well well well Robbing. I know for a fact that you’re wrong. A former colleague of mine gets her rent of £825 per month paid for and gets £400 per month allowance on top of that. Every month, without question. I’ve seen the online paperwork.
“people like you are always so confidently wrong about subjects you have little to no knoweldge of it's nauseating.”
😂😂😂😂
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Yes you can get special dispensation, especially at the moment.
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There was nothing special about it Robbing, she went through the all of the application documents with me online, it’s all stored for each user.
You’re either outdated or just plain wrong. Either way, maybe don’t talk like you’re some kind of fountain of knowledge, accuse someone else of being confidently wrong about subject they no little or nothing about when in fact you’re completely wrong.
You’re a pathetic, insulting little child. Jog on now son, laters.
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Not even mentioned being sanctioned because you don't want to work night shifts in a pizza factory 15 miles away.
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Proves my point. Never had it so good. My father would cycle 15 miles to work. Why? He had a family to take care of.
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We're back to yorkshire again...
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 3 minutes ago
In the 1950s we spent a third of our income on food shopping, but in 1974 this had gone down to 24%. By 2016 food shopping accounted for just 10.5% of our income.
Read more: https://www.which.co.uk/news/2019/11/heres-how-our-food-prices-compare-to-30-years-ago-and-you-might-be-surprised/ - Which?
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And then the UK joined the EEC which along with a globalised economy, (ie cheaper food from abroad) helped bring down national prices.
It also enabled more competition amongst supermarkets thus giving them more purchasing power.
Anyway, going off topic so will leave it there.
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Not even mentioned being sanctioned because you don't want to work night shifts in a pizza factory 15 miles away.
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Proves my point. Never had it so good. My father would cycle 15 miles to work. Why? He had a family to take care of.
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I had to travel 5 miles in a semi inflated, punctured dinghy down a main river, then crawl across a muddy field to get to work when I was 13. Luckily there was a spare change of clothes there. True story.
But EVEN I don't think children deserve to die to death from hunger.
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Rampant (U3126)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 3 minutes ago
60k debt when it includes the mortgage is peanuts.
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60k is the *average* debt.
Low-income households over the last ten years (as the United Nations report highlighted) has seen a stark raise in consumer debt.
As more and more normal household purchases / bills/ food are being purchased via credit card (average interest @ 20%). Multiple charities, trade bodies, debt support groups across the country (including the FCA) have universally reached the same conclusions over the last number of years in regard to consumer debt.
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And that average is peanuts when a house is £200k.
Consumer debt is bad management. I know I was a victim ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ of it for many years.
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Now I know you're wumming.
Afternoon all.
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 11 seconds ago
I want to hear from Robbing. He’s such a fountain of knowledge about universal credit, it should be very quick and easy to answer my questions about it.
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Did you miss the part where I said I cba? It's not my job to elevate your ignorance is it? It's roughly £450 fwiw but it depends on whether you have the audacity to have a spare bedroom so your child can stay. You can quite easily do a calculation online.
UC doesnt take into account any other bills either but you have to be online to claim it. It also doesn't take into account such things as maintenance so in other words paying towards a child you can't claim for.
Google is your friend. I'm not.
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Well well well Robbing. I know for a fact that you’re wrong. A former colleague of mine gets her rent of £825 per month paid for and gets £400 per month allowance on top of that. Every month, without question. I’ve seen the online paperwork.
“people like you are always so confidently wrong about subjects you have little to no knoweldge of it's nauseating.”
😂😂😂😂
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Yes you can get special dispensation, especially at the moment.
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There was nothing special about it Robbing, she went through the all of the application documents with me online, it’s all stored for each user.
You’re either outdated or just plain wrong. Either way, maybe don’t talk like you’re some kind of fountain of knowledge, accuse someone else of being confidently wrong about subject they no little or nothing about when in fact you’re completely wrong.
You’re a pathetic, insulting little child. Jog on now son, laters.
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Feel free to do the assessment now, it takes 10 minutes and I guarantee you you're wrong. Far be it from me not to accept the story about your mate even though you've seen the paperwork and everything.
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comment by Garry Brady (U1734)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Not even mentioned being sanctioned because you don't want to work night shifts in a pizza factory 15 miles away.
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Proves my point. Never had it so good. My father would cycle 15 miles to work. Why? He had a family to take care of.
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I had to travel 5 miles in a semi inflated, punctured dinghy down a main river, then crawl across a muddy field to get to work when I was 13. Luckily there was a spare change of clothes there. True story.
But EVEN I don't think children deserve to die to death from hunger.
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you were lucky...we had to stay wet all day
I worked in social exclusion for many years and overall I think to have starving children in the UK is a problem we shouldn't be seeing.
The discussion on this topic usually gets people riled up and having worked in the field you see and hear of some absolute horror stories.
However (and I say this knowing I will probably get stick) when you unpick the issue of a family struggling or children starving then the issue isn't as simple as lack of money or benefits.
Sure the provision for caviar and champagne is not there and it maybe simply beans on toast as a meal. But for those kids not getting even beans on toast for supper/tea/dinner there almost always "other" issues than simply money or benefits
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comment by Radical (U8691)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
Yeah ask the parents and they'll say they lost their job due to unforeseen circumstances and are now unable to afford all they need. But yeah parents should've predicted a pandemic years in advance.
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If you lose your job with children you get .....what they called ....?.....errrr.....BENEFITS.....
Pensioners pensions us the biggest chunk of UK benefits another big chunk is working tax credits,you know, tax payers subsidising wages so businesses don't need to pay a living wage,
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 11 seconds ago
I want to hear from Robbing. He’s such a fountain of knowledge about universal credit, it should be very quick and easy to answer my questions about it.
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Did you miss the part where I said I cba? It's not my job to elevate your ignorance is it? It's roughly £450 fwiw but it depends on whether you have the audacity to have a spare bedroom so your child can stay. You can quite easily do a calculation online.
UC doesnt take into account any other bills either but you have to be online to claim it. It also doesn't take into account such things as maintenance so in other words paying towards a child you can't claim for.
Google is your friend. I'm not.
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Well well well Robbing. I know for a fact that you’re wrong. A former colleague of mine gets her rent of £825 per month paid for and gets £400 per month allowance on top of that. Every month, without question. I’ve seen the online paperwork.
“people like you are always so confidently wrong about subjects you have little to no knoweldge of it's nauseating.”
😂😂😂😂
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Yes you can get special dispensation, especially at the moment.
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There was nothing special about it Robbing, she went through the all of the application documents with me online, it’s all stored for each user.
You’re either outdated or just plain wrong. Either way, maybe don’t talk like you’re some kind of fountain of knowledge, accuse someone else of being confidently wrong about subject they no little or nothing about when in fact you’re completely wrong.
You’re a pathetic, insulting little child. Jog on now son, laters.
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Feel free to do the assessment now, it takes 10 minutes and I guarantee you you're wrong. Far be it from me not to accept the story about your mate even though you've seen the paperwork and everything.
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Yes I’m lying to prove a point to a random stranger on the internet....
I think I’ll ignore your guarantees Robbing, you don’t have a clue. I’ve seen her paperwork and I know her personal circumstances, there is nothing out of the ordinary about either.
There will be a limit no doubt but it’s probably at a level whereby once you’re at that level you’re expected to have a certain amount of savings.
Perhaps the limit is affected by geography? Hence why you’re saying £450 which wasn’t true for my colleague in London. But hey, that’s just an idea from silly me who doesn’t know anything.
Either way, I’m not interested in talking to you anymore, you’re a rude prck who doesn’t even know what he’s talking about but acts like he’s the Alex Ferguson of claiming benefits.
Just to add that some of the people who suffer them most are not the ones are on benefits, although I'm not saying none of these suffer.
The biggest "losers" are often those who are just above thresholds and those in things like zero hours contracts etc.
Working people who make just enough money that makes them ineligible for certain benefits often end up suffering more than those not working
comment by Picasso (U21397)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Radical (U8691)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
Yeah ask the parents and they'll say they lost their job due to unforeseen circumstances and are now unable to afford all they need. But yeah parents should've predicted a pandemic years in advance.
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If you lose your job with children you get .....what they called ....?.....errrr.....BENEFITS.....
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The benefit of hindsight perhaps...
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Rampant (U3126)
posted 59 minutes ago
Seems to be a lack of appreciation that family situations/dynamics can change due to a multitude of external circumstances.
The simple fact is that millions of families struggle to make ends meet. Sometimes due to no fault of their own.
I recall reading a few comments condemning a parent for having a smart phone but at the same time struggling to make ends meet.
Owning a mobile phone is not a luxury but a modern day essential.
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So is a car...
So is a 65 inch tv..
So is the latest PlayStation..
So is alcohol
So is 40 cigarettes a day...
comment by Picasso (U21397)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Rampant (U3126)
posted 59 minutes ago
Seems to be a lack of appreciation that family situations/dynamics can change due to a multitude of external circumstances.
The simple fact is that millions of families struggle to make ends meet. Sometimes due to no fault of their own.
I recall reading a few comments condemning a parent for having a smart phone but at the same time struggling to make ends meet.
Owning a mobile phone is not a luxury but a modern day essential.
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So is a car...
So is a 65 inch tv..
So is the latest PlayStation..
So is alcohol
So is 40 cigarettes a day...
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There are phones...& there are phones
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 1 minute ago
Just to add that some of the people who suffer them most are not the ones are on benefits, although I'm not saying none of these suffer.
The biggest "losers" are often those who are just above thresholds and those in things like zero hours contracts etc.
Working people who make just enough money that makes them ineligible for certain benefits often end up suffering more than those not working
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This is the biggest problem. It’s tragic that many people will be better off not working and being on benefits (and some people actually do this). But, contrary to the numbnuts that complain it’s as the benefits are too much, it’s the scandalous way employers can exploit people and not pay them a living wage.
No that's the limit but you can get dispensation.
I'm assuming she's got a fair few kids or something.
You could quite easily do the assessment online though instead of talking bollox. From what I can see your stance is on some mysterious paperwork so do it as a single person if you want a real horror story.
I feel you're rude and some of the stuff you've written is ignorant, bigoted and offensive so at least we're on the same page about that.
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 1 minute ago
Just to add that some of the people who suffer them most are not the ones are on benefits, although I'm not saying none of these suffer.
The biggest "losers" are often those who are just above thresholds and those in things like zero hours contracts etc.
Working people who make just enough money that makes them ineligible for certain benefits often end up suffering more than those not working
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This is the biggest problem. It’s tragic that many people will be better off not working and being on benefits (and some people actually do this). But, contrary to the numbnuts that complain it’s as the benefits are too much, it’s the scandalous way employers can exploit people and not pay them a living wage.
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In my experience, through the work I used to do and people I have known, it is an absolute ludicrous state of affairs that a person getting a payrise of a few pence an hour can be in tears because they will now be worse off.
Not sure if it's the case as I write this but one study showed that there was a lot of working folk in council houses. They paid all or most of the rent themselves (dependent on what the work and wages were). When councils changed the housing system to bands it made it difficult for that group of up coming people to get a council house.
Basically people working but in certain bands/brackets have been most affected by changes than unemployed
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 6 minutes ago
No that's the limit but you can get dispensation.
I'm assuming she's got a fair few kids or something.
You could quite easily do the assessment online though instead of talking bollox. From what I can see your stance is on some mysterious paperwork so do it as a single person if you want a real horror story.
I feel you're rude and some of the stuff you've written is ignorant, bigoted and offensive so at least we're on the same page about that.
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Unlucky mate, she’s single and no kids.
I don’t need to do the bloody assessment, I’ve seen hers. Even if I did, and I confirmed that my mortgage was covered up to an amount higher than £450.00, you wouldn’t believe me anyway because you won’t believe me about my former colleague; so why on earth would I waste more time on someone like you?
I’ve only been rude to you after you were rude to me; not that difficult to understand even for you.
You think my calculations were wrong earlier and they weren’t. Don’t worry though; everyone is wrong on occasion.
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posted on 19/11/20
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 11 seconds ago
I want to hear from Robbing. He’s such a fountain of knowledge about universal credit, it should be very quick and easy to answer my questions about it.
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Did you miss the part where I said I cba? It's not my job to elevate your ignorance is it? It's roughly £450 fwiw but it depends on whether you have the audacity to have a spare bedroom so your child can stay. You can quite easily do a calculation online.
UC doesnt take into account any other bills either but you have to be online to claim it. It also doesn't take into account such things as maintenance so in other words paying towards a child you can't claim for.
Google is your friend. I'm not.
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Well well well Robbing. I know for a fact that you’re wrong. A former colleague of mine gets her rent of £825 per month paid for and gets £400 per month allowance on top of that. Every month, without question. I’ve seen the online paperwork.
“people like you are always so confidently wrong about subjects you have little to no knoweldge of it's nauseating.”
😂😂😂😂
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Yes you can get special dispensation, especially at the moment.
posted on 19/11/20
Do the calculation online and see what you get.
posted on 19/11/20
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posted on 19/11/20
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
Google is your friend. I'm not.
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Have to say I chuckled at that too...
posted on 19/11/20
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 11 seconds ago
I want to hear from Robbing. He’s such a fountain of knowledge about universal credit, it should be very quick and easy to answer my questions about it.
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Did you miss the part where I said I cba? It's not my job to elevate your ignorance is it? It's roughly £450 fwiw but it depends on whether you have the audacity to have a spare bedroom so your child can stay. You can quite easily do a calculation online.
UC doesnt take into account any other bills either but you have to be online to claim it. It also doesn't take into account such things as maintenance so in other words paying towards a child you can't claim for.
Google is your friend. I'm not.
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Well well well Robbing. I know for a fact that you’re wrong. A former colleague of mine gets her rent of £825 per month paid for and gets £400 per month allowance on top of that. Every month, without question. I’ve seen the online paperwork.
“people like you are always so confidently wrong about subjects you have little to no knoweldge of it's nauseating.”
😂😂😂😂
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Yes you can get special dispensation, especially at the moment.
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There was nothing special about it Robbing, she went through the all of the application documents with me online, it’s all stored for each user.
You’re either outdated or just plain wrong. Either way, maybe don’t talk like you’re some kind of fountain of knowledge, accuse someone else of being confidently wrong about subject they no little or nothing about when in fact you’re completely wrong.
You’re a pathetic, insulting little child. Jog on now son, laters.
posted on 19/11/20
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Not even mentioned being sanctioned because you don't want to work night shifts in a pizza factory 15 miles away.
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Proves my point. Never had it so good. My father would cycle 15 miles to work. Why? He had a family to take care of.
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We're back to yorkshire again...
posted on 19/11/20
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 3 minutes ago
In the 1950s we spent a third of our income on food shopping, but in 1974 this had gone down to 24%. By 2016 food shopping accounted for just 10.5% of our income.
Read more: https://www.which.co.uk/news/2019/11/heres-how-our-food-prices-compare-to-30-years-ago-and-you-might-be-surprised/ - Which?
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And then the UK joined the EEC which along with a globalised economy, (ie cheaper food from abroad) helped bring down national prices.
It also enabled more competition amongst supermarkets thus giving them more purchasing power.
Anyway, going off topic so will leave it there.
posted on 19/11/20
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Not even mentioned being sanctioned because you don't want to work night shifts in a pizza factory 15 miles away.
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Proves my point. Never had it so good. My father would cycle 15 miles to work. Why? He had a family to take care of.
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I had to travel 5 miles in a semi inflated, punctured dinghy down a main river, then crawl across a muddy field to get to work when I was 13. Luckily there was a spare change of clothes there. True story.
But EVEN I don't think children deserve to die to death from hunger.
posted on 19/11/20
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Rampant (U3126)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 3 minutes ago
60k debt when it includes the mortgage is peanuts.
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60k is the *average* debt.
Low-income households over the last ten years (as the United Nations report highlighted) has seen a stark raise in consumer debt.
As more and more normal household purchases / bills/ food are being purchased via credit card (average interest @ 20%). Multiple charities, trade bodies, debt support groups across the country (including the FCA) have universally reached the same conclusions over the last number of years in regard to consumer debt.
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And that average is peanuts when a house is £200k.
Consumer debt is bad management. I know I was a victim ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ of it for many years.
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Now I know you're wumming.
Afternoon all.
posted on 19/11/20
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 11 seconds ago
I want to hear from Robbing. He’s such a fountain of knowledge about universal credit, it should be very quick and easy to answer my questions about it.
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Did you miss the part where I said I cba? It's not my job to elevate your ignorance is it? It's roughly £450 fwiw but it depends on whether you have the audacity to have a spare bedroom so your child can stay. You can quite easily do a calculation online.
UC doesnt take into account any other bills either but you have to be online to claim it. It also doesn't take into account such things as maintenance so in other words paying towards a child you can't claim for.
Google is your friend. I'm not.
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Well well well Robbing. I know for a fact that you’re wrong. A former colleague of mine gets her rent of £825 per month paid for and gets £400 per month allowance on top of that. Every month, without question. I’ve seen the online paperwork.
“people like you are always so confidently wrong about subjects you have little to no knoweldge of it's nauseating.”
😂😂😂😂
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Yes you can get special dispensation, especially at the moment.
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There was nothing special about it Robbing, she went through the all of the application documents with me online, it’s all stored for each user.
You’re either outdated or just plain wrong. Either way, maybe don’t talk like you’re some kind of fountain of knowledge, accuse someone else of being confidently wrong about subject they no little or nothing about when in fact you’re completely wrong.
You’re a pathetic, insulting little child. Jog on now son, laters.
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Feel free to do the assessment now, it takes 10 minutes and I guarantee you you're wrong. Far be it from me not to accept the story about your mate even though you've seen the paperwork and everything.
posted on 19/11/20
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posted on 19/11/20
comment by Garry Brady (U1734)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Not even mentioned being sanctioned because you don't want to work night shifts in a pizza factory 15 miles away.
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Proves my point. Never had it so good. My father would cycle 15 miles to work. Why? He had a family to take care of.
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I had to travel 5 miles in a semi inflated, punctured dinghy down a main river, then crawl across a muddy field to get to work when I was 13. Luckily there was a spare change of clothes there. True story.
But EVEN I don't think children deserve to die to death from hunger.
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you were lucky...we had to stay wet all day
posted on 19/11/20
I worked in social exclusion for many years and overall I think to have starving children in the UK is a problem we shouldn't be seeing.
The discussion on this topic usually gets people riled up and having worked in the field you see and hear of some absolute horror stories.
However (and I say this knowing I will probably get stick) when you unpick the issue of a family struggling or children starving then the issue isn't as simple as lack of money or benefits.
Sure the provision for caviar and champagne is not there and it maybe simply beans on toast as a meal. But for those kids not getting even beans on toast for supper/tea/dinner there almost always "other" issues than simply money or benefits
posted on 19/11/20
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posted on 19/11/20
comment by Radical (U8691)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
Yeah ask the parents and they'll say they lost their job due to unforeseen circumstances and are now unable to afford all they need. But yeah parents should've predicted a pandemic years in advance.
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If you lose your job with children you get .....what they called ....?.....errrr.....BENEFITS.....
posted on 19/11/20
Pensioners pensions us the biggest chunk of UK benefits another big chunk is working tax credits,you know, tax payers subsidising wages so businesses don't need to pay a living wage,
posted on 19/11/20
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 11 seconds ago
I want to hear from Robbing. He’s such a fountain of knowledge about universal credit, it should be very quick and easy to answer my questions about it.
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Did you miss the part where I said I cba? It's not my job to elevate your ignorance is it? It's roughly £450 fwiw but it depends on whether you have the audacity to have a spare bedroom so your child can stay. You can quite easily do a calculation online.
UC doesnt take into account any other bills either but you have to be online to claim it. It also doesn't take into account such things as maintenance so in other words paying towards a child you can't claim for.
Google is your friend. I'm not.
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Well well well Robbing. I know for a fact that you’re wrong. A former colleague of mine gets her rent of £825 per month paid for and gets £400 per month allowance on top of that. Every month, without question. I’ve seen the online paperwork.
“people like you are always so confidently wrong about subjects you have little to no knoweldge of it's nauseating.”
😂😂😂😂
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Yes you can get special dispensation, especially at the moment.
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There was nothing special about it Robbing, she went through the all of the application documents with me online, it’s all stored for each user.
You’re either outdated or just plain wrong. Either way, maybe don’t talk like you’re some kind of fountain of knowledge, accuse someone else of being confidently wrong about subject they no little or nothing about when in fact you’re completely wrong.
You’re a pathetic, insulting little child. Jog on now son, laters.
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Feel free to do the assessment now, it takes 10 minutes and I guarantee you you're wrong. Far be it from me not to accept the story about your mate even though you've seen the paperwork and everything.
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Yes I’m lying to prove a point to a random stranger on the internet....
I think I’ll ignore your guarantees Robbing, you don’t have a clue. I’ve seen her paperwork and I know her personal circumstances, there is nothing out of the ordinary about either.
There will be a limit no doubt but it’s probably at a level whereby once you’re at that level you’re expected to have a certain amount of savings.
Perhaps the limit is affected by geography? Hence why you’re saying £450 which wasn’t true for my colleague in London. But hey, that’s just an idea from silly me who doesn’t know anything.
Either way, I’m not interested in talking to you anymore, you’re a rude prck who doesn’t even know what he’s talking about but acts like he’s the Alex Ferguson of claiming benefits.
posted on 19/11/20
Just to add that some of the people who suffer them most are not the ones are on benefits, although I'm not saying none of these suffer.
The biggest "losers" are often those who are just above thresholds and those in things like zero hours contracts etc.
Working people who make just enough money that makes them ineligible for certain benefits often end up suffering more than those not working
posted on 19/11/20
comment by Picasso (U21397)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Radical (U8691)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
Yeah ask the parents and they'll say they lost their job due to unforeseen circumstances and are now unable to afford all they need. But yeah parents should've predicted a pandemic years in advance.
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If you lose your job with children you get .....what they called ....?.....errrr.....BENEFITS.....
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The benefit of hindsight perhaps...
posted on 19/11/20
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Rampant (U3126)
posted 59 minutes ago
Seems to be a lack of appreciation that family situations/dynamics can change due to a multitude of external circumstances.
The simple fact is that millions of families struggle to make ends meet. Sometimes due to no fault of their own.
I recall reading a few comments condemning a parent for having a smart phone but at the same time struggling to make ends meet.
Owning a mobile phone is not a luxury but a modern day essential.
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So is a car...
So is a 65 inch tv..
So is the latest PlayStation..
So is alcohol
So is 40 cigarettes a day...
posted on 19/11/20
comment by Picasso (U21397)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Rampant (U3126)
posted 59 minutes ago
Seems to be a lack of appreciation that family situations/dynamics can change due to a multitude of external circumstances.
The simple fact is that millions of families struggle to make ends meet. Sometimes due to no fault of their own.
I recall reading a few comments condemning a parent for having a smart phone but at the same time struggling to make ends meet.
Owning a mobile phone is not a luxury but a modern day essential.
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So is a car...
So is a 65 inch tv..
So is the latest PlayStation..
So is alcohol
So is 40 cigarettes a day...
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There are phones...& there are phones
posted on 19/11/20
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 1 minute ago
Just to add that some of the people who suffer them most are not the ones are on benefits, although I'm not saying none of these suffer.
The biggest "losers" are often those who are just above thresholds and those in things like zero hours contracts etc.
Working people who make just enough money that makes them ineligible for certain benefits often end up suffering more than those not working
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This is the biggest problem. It’s tragic that many people will be better off not working and being on benefits (and some people actually do this). But, contrary to the numbnuts that complain it’s as the benefits are too much, it’s the scandalous way employers can exploit people and not pay them a living wage.
posted on 19/11/20
No that's the limit but you can get dispensation.
I'm assuming she's got a fair few kids or something.
You could quite easily do the assessment online though instead of talking bollox. From what I can see your stance is on some mysterious paperwork so do it as a single person if you want a real horror story.
I feel you're rude and some of the stuff you've written is ignorant, bigoted and offensive so at least we're on the same page about that.
posted on 19/11/20
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 1 minute ago
Just to add that some of the people who suffer them most are not the ones are on benefits, although I'm not saying none of these suffer.
The biggest "losers" are often those who are just above thresholds and those in things like zero hours contracts etc.
Working people who make just enough money that makes them ineligible for certain benefits often end up suffering more than those not working
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This is the biggest problem. It’s tragic that many people will be better off not working and being on benefits (and some people actually do this). But, contrary to the numbnuts that complain it’s as the benefits are too much, it’s the scandalous way employers can exploit people and not pay them a living wage.
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In my experience, through the work I used to do and people I have known, it is an absolute ludicrous state of affairs that a person getting a payrise of a few pence an hour can be in tears because they will now be worse off.
Not sure if it's the case as I write this but one study showed that there was a lot of working folk in council houses. They paid all or most of the rent themselves (dependent on what the work and wages were). When councils changed the housing system to bands it made it difficult for that group of up coming people to get a council house.
Basically people working but in certain bands/brackets have been most affected by changes than unemployed
posted on 19/11/20
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 6 minutes ago
No that's the limit but you can get dispensation.
I'm assuming she's got a fair few kids or something.
You could quite easily do the assessment online though instead of talking bollox. From what I can see your stance is on some mysterious paperwork so do it as a single person if you want a real horror story.
I feel you're rude and some of the stuff you've written is ignorant, bigoted and offensive so at least we're on the same page about that.
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Unlucky mate, she’s single and no kids.
I don’t need to do the bloody assessment, I’ve seen hers. Even if I did, and I confirmed that my mortgage was covered up to an amount higher than £450.00, you wouldn’t believe me anyway because you won’t believe me about my former colleague; so why on earth would I waste more time on someone like you?
I’ve only been rude to you after you were rude to me; not that difficult to understand even for you.
You think my calculations were wrong earlier and they weren’t. Don’t worry though; everyone is wrong on occasion.
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