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Kane, world's most complete centre forward?

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posted on 23/11/20

Kane is incredible. This season he has taken his game to a new level. His stats are ridiculous, but he brings so much more to the table.

He's clearly a world class, elite footballer. Quite easily in the debate for third best player in the world.

posted on 23/11/20

comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Fan Gillhaus 1903 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 (U3339)
posted 12 seconds ago
41 Assists in 302 games

10 in 9 this season

so in 293 games previous he has 31

average 5 every season (6 seasons)

Assist King he is not
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Ccknys
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I know, they won’t respond to those stats

posted on 23/11/20

comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Pranky (U22336)
posted 1 minute ago
No the Polish lad is, excellent player though.

Best ever
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I’m not sure why that’s laughable though. A lot of people praise Alan Shearer for being one of the greatest strikers of our generation and to right, he was a superb striker, but why laugh when Harry Kane is mentioned ? His goal scoring is phenomenal. His hold up play incredible. His vision and range of passing world class. If anyone has actually watched Harry properly like we have, you wouldn’t be laughing. Lewandowski is superb, but Harry Kane is slightly better for me.
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I get the bias and he is world class but in terms of goals to games and doing it at the highest level Lewa is a level above. He has been hitting silly goal tallies for years.

Kane has awesome stats but Lewadowskis numbers are off the chart, season after season. If you look at just goals it's not even close.

Why can't a player just be world class instead of fans claiming he is the best based off a few games 😅
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Tbf FootyMcfootfoot, continually in threads with outrageous statements you often do match it - however with this partisan ‘oh look at me I’m neutral approach’ as if it justifies your comments.
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Yeah I'm a sucker for stats and not really getting into the rose tinted glasses. I also understand how much we over hype PL players. If you look at shot conversion, chances received etc it puts a different slant on things.

Doesn't sure hold the record for goals in a campaign without any penalties and he missed a handful of games due to his ban? Balloon d'or runner up and CL/league winner...I'd actually say he was probably the best striker of recent times in the PL but left and git even better

If city signed Kane I think he would win everything and become the best in the league ever but not atm.
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My point was evidently you don’t look at the stats, otherwise you wouldn’t have made than comment about his finishing. His finishing is freakish and he is (again) the only player who has outperformed his xG every season substantially

posted on 23/11/20

comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by der kloppites Hi, wie geht es dir * (U13373)
posted 17 minutes ago
all the talk about Kane, but what impressed me about spurs is their defensive organization I like the art of defending & spurs are much improved in that department TBF
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This is true

Last year City battered us in the game at whl but missed chance after chance and we ended up winning 2-0

Massive contrast to the game on Saturday where they created nothing of note other than an injury time headed Diaz should’ve scored

Jose deserves praise for that
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So no praise for Eric then, you know the player most of you wanted rid of about two weeks ago?

posted on 23/11/20

Ever? No. At the moment, possibly. Seems similar to Lewandowski.

posted on 23/11/20

I’d say Suarez or Henry are the most complete CFs the league has ever seen. Kane is fighting Rooney for third (and probably just losing)

posted on 23/11/20

comment by AFTP #NoWayJose (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by der kloppites Hi, wie geht es dir * (U13373)
posted 17 minutes ago
all the talk about Kane, but what impressed me about spurs is their defensive organization I like the art of defending & spurs are much improved in that department TBF
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This is true

Last year City battered us in the game at whl but missed chance after chance and we ended up winning 2-0

Massive contrast to the game on Saturday where they created nothing of note other than an injury time headed Diaz should’ve scored

Jose deserves praise for that
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So no praise for Eric then, you know the player most of you wanted rid of about two weeks ago?

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Yes Sizz, he gets praise too

posted on 23/11/20

Most complete ever is a bit of a stretch as just over the past 10 years alone I'd have Suarez above him for that.

Kane's game has gone up another level this season though, will be interesting to see if he can maintain his playmaking form.

comment by Edbo (U17933)

posted on 23/11/20

comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 13 minutes ago
I’d say Suarez or Henry are the most complete CFs the league has ever seen. Kane is fighting Rooney for third (and probably just losing)
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Not sure about this. Suarez was a better dribbler and more skilful. Kane's hold up play, strength and aerial ability is better.

posted on 23/11/20

comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Pranky (U22336)
posted 1 minute ago
No the Polish lad is, excellent player though.

Best ever
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I’m not sure why that’s laughable though. A lot of people praise Alan Shearer for being one of the greatest strikers of our generation and to right, he was a superb striker, but why laugh when Harry Kane is mentioned ? His goal scoring is phenomenal. His hold up play incredible. His vision and range of passing world class. If anyone has actually watched Harry properly like we have, you wouldn’t be laughing. Lewandowski is superb, but Harry Kane is slightly better for me.
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I get the bias and he is world class but in terms of goals to games and doing it at the highest level Lewa is a level above. He has been hitting silly goal tallies for years.

Kane has awesome stats but Lewadowskis numbers are off the chart, season after season. If you look at just goals it's not even close.

Why can't a player just be world class instead of fans claiming he is the best based off a few games 😅
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Tbf FootyMcfootfoot, continually in threads with outrageous statements you often do match it - however with this partisan ‘oh look at me I’m neutral approach’ as if it justifies your comments.
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Yeah I'm a sucker for stats and not really getting into the rose tinted glasses. I also understand how much we over hype PL players. If you look at shot conversion, chances received etc it puts a different slant on things.

Doesn't sure hold the record for goals in a campaign without any penalties and he missed a handful of games due to his ban? Balloon d'or runner up and CL/league winner...I'd actually say he was probably the best striker of recent times in the PL but left and git even better

If city signed Kane I think he would win everything and become the best in the league ever but not atm.
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My point was evidently you don’t look at the stats, otherwise you wouldn’t have made than comment about his finishing. His finishing is freakish and he is (again) the only player who has outperformed his xG every season substantially
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Yet no one mentions Aguero... most hatricks and I'm sure he is the most clinical. Kanes assists are a new part of his game and it's too early, and unfair, to expect this form to continue. If he does he is definitely in the convoy.

I think Kane is world class but the youre making out I'm saying he is rubbish 😅 when it comes to the top you have to talk about Henry and his 20 assists and shearer/Aguero etc even nistelrooy etc not sure why there is any shame in that.

posted on 23/11/20

comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 15 minutes ago
I’d say Suarez or Henry are the most complete CFs the league has ever seen. Kane is fighting Rooney for third (and probably just losing)
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Agree. Them two are freaks. Disagree with Rooney though as I never saw him as a striker really in the same way I see Shearer, Kane, Suarez, Henry etc

posted on 23/11/20

comment by The Adventures of Stevie B (U17933)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 13 minutes ago
I’d say Suarez or Henry are the most complete CFs the league has ever seen. Kane is fighting Rooney for third (and probably just losing)
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Not sure about this. Suarez was a better dribbler and more skilful. Kane's hold up play, strength and aerial ability is better.
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Suarez’s hold up play was exceptionally actually and I can’t think of a time where he was ever muscled off the ball. Suarez had the better short passing, whereas Kane is better at long range passing. We also didn’t even see the best of Suarez, he became even better after joining Barca

posted on 23/11/20

comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by AFTP #NoWayJose (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by der kloppites Hi, wie geht es dir * (U13373)
posted 17 minutes ago
all the talk about Kane, but what impressed me about spurs is their defensive organization I like the art of defending & spurs are much improved in that department TBF
----------------------------------------------------------------------

This is true

Last year City battered us in the game at whl but missed chance after chance and we ended up winning 2-0

Massive contrast to the game on Saturday where they created nothing of note other than an injury time headed Diaz should’ve scored

Jose deserves praise for that
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So no praise for Eric then, you know the player most of you wanted rid of about two weeks ago?

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Yes Sizz, he gets praise too


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Also I’ve never said I wanted rid of Dier. I also don’t subscribe to the attitude of ‘praise Jose when we win, blame the players when we lose’ nonsense

posted on 23/11/20

comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Pranky (U22336)
posted 1 minute ago
No the Polish lad is, excellent player though.

Best ever
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I’m not sure why that’s laughable though. A lot of people praise Alan Shearer for being one of the greatest strikers of our generation and to right, he was a superb striker, but why laugh when Harry Kane is mentioned ? His goal scoring is phenomenal. His hold up play incredible. His vision and range of passing world class. If anyone has actually watched Harry properly like we have, you wouldn’t be laughing. Lewandowski is superb, but Harry Kane is slightly better for me.
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I get the bias and he is world class but in terms of goals to games and doing it at the highest level Lewa is a level above. He has been hitting silly goal tallies for years.

Kane has awesome stats but Lewadowskis numbers are off the chart, season after season. If you look at just goals it's not even close.

Why can't a player just be world class instead of fans claiming he is the best based off a few games 😅
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Tbf FootyMcfootfoot, continually in threads with outrageous statements you often do match it - however with this partisan ‘oh look at me I’m neutral approach’ as if it justifies your comments.
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Yeah I'm a sucker for stats and not really getting into the rose tinted glasses. I also understand how much we over hype PL players. If you look at shot conversion, chances received etc it puts a different slant on things.

Doesn't sure hold the record for goals in a campaign without any penalties and he missed a handful of games due to his ban? Balloon d'or runner up and CL/league winner...I'd actually say he was probably the best striker of recent times in the PL but left and git even better

If city signed Kane I think he would win everything and become the best in the league ever but not atm.
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My point was evidently you don’t look at the stats, otherwise you wouldn’t have made than comment about his finishing. His finishing is freakish and he is (again) the only player who has outperformed his xG every season substantially
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Yet no one mentions Aguero... most hatricks and I'm sure he is the most clinical. Kanes assists are a new part of his game and it's too early, and unfair, to expect this form to continue. If he does he is definitely in the convoy.

I think Kane is world class but the youre making out I'm saying he is rubbish 😅 when it comes to the top you have to talk about Henry and his 20 assists and shearer/Aguero etc even nistelrooy etc not sure why there is any shame in that.


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I’m talking about finishing specifically though. Kane overperforms finishing statistics substantially every season, he is one of the best finishers since statistics started measuring that. Aguero’s hat tricks are irrelevant to him being clinical - longevity plays a part but so does the quality of team. If Kane played for City who would have blown away the hat trick record.

posted on 23/11/20

comment by The Adventures of Stevie B (U17933)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 13 minutes ago
I’d say Suarez or Henry are the most complete CFs the league has ever seen. Kane is fighting Rooney for third (and probably just losing)
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Not sure about this. Suarez was a better dribbler and more skilful. Kane's hold up play, strength and aerial ability is better.
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Suarez's hold play was sublime he was pretty good with his head as well however not on Kanes level.
Suarez was a level above Kane in the PL.

Maybe Kane can improve however he is not there yet

posted on 23/11/20

Hard to compare Suárez and Kane.

My instinct is to say Suárez was better but when you stop and think about it, it’s an interesting discussion.

posted on 23/11/20

I think Suarez is hugely underrated and has an argument for one of the all-time great strikers

posted on 23/11/20

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 2 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
Kane is not fit to lace Haalands boots, and Haaland is still a baby.
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How's his assist record?
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Not bad. Haaland is on another level to Kane's level at the same age. Kane was playing sub top flight football when developing. Also probably has more assists than Kane at the same age.
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Not badIn other words, you haven’t got a clue. Haaland isn’t a patch on Harry Kane. Maybe one day he might be better, but he isn’t patch on Harry.
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Haaland not a patch on Kane?

You're getting badly carried away here.
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Nope, I’m not getting carried away. Harry Kane has been doing this for 6/7 years. He’s been at the top of his game for years. He’s been consistently breaking records season in season out. Haaland been doing it for a 1 year and a bit. I suggest you are the one going OTT. Haaland on another level to Kanefunniest thing I have heard in a long time. Like I say, clueless.
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I thought this was a laugh article. My comment was clearly tongue in cheek. Yours clearly wasn't. You genuinely think Kane is the best of all time and Haalands is not a patch on him.



Typical Spurs always providing the comedy any time their team is doing well. Last time they couldn't stop telling us about Toby and Verts, the best CB pairing in history that won fack all
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There we go, there it is. The bitterness coming out nowso because you hate Spurs, you don’t rate Kane. Ok then. I don’t think Kane is the best of all time. When did I say that ? I think he’s one of the best premier league strikers of all time and he’s currently the best striker on the planet. I never said he’s the best player ever so wind you’re neck in. You genuinely think Haaland is a level above HarryKanehilarious
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As football clubs go I assure you Spurs are not even near the top of clubs I hate.

I don't really think Haaland is a level above Kane, but he is better than Kane was at that age, and has the potential to be better than Kane, that much is obvious IMO.

posted on 23/11/20

comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 2 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
Kane is not fit to lace Haalands boots, and Haaland is still a baby.
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How's his assist record?
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Not bad. Haaland is on another level to Kane's level at the same age. Kane was playing sub top flight football when developing. Also probably has more assists than Kane at the same age.
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Not badIn other words, you haven’t got a clue. Haaland isn’t a patch on Harry Kane. Maybe one day he might be better, but he isn’t patch on Harry.
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Haaland not a patch on Kane?

You're getting badly carried away here.
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Nope, I’m not getting carried away. Harry Kane has been doing this for 6/7 years. He’s been at the top of his game for years. He’s been consistently breaking records season in season out. Haaland been doing it for a 1 year and a bit. I suggest you are the one going OTT. Haaland on another level to Kanefunniest thing I have heard in a long time. Like I say, clueless.
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I thought this was a laugh article. My comment was clearly tongue in cheek. Yours clearly wasn't. You genuinely think Kane is the best of all time and Haalands is not a patch on him.



Typical Spurs always providing the comedy any time their team is doing well. Last time they couldn't stop telling us about Toby and Verts, the best CB pairing in history that won fack all
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There we go, there it is. The bitterness coming out nowso because you hate Spurs, you don’t rate Kane. Ok then. I don’t think Kane is the best of all time. When did I say that ? I think he’s one of the best premier league strikers of all time and he’s currently the best striker on the planet. I never said he’s the best player ever so wind you’re neck in. You genuinely think Haaland is a level above HarryKanehilarious
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As football clubs go I assure you Spurs are not even near the top of clubs I hate.

I don't really think Haaland is a level above Kane, but he is better than Kane was at that age, and has the potential to be better than Kane, that much is obvious IMO.
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Never denied that. I already said Haaland is an exceptional young striker and you are right, he could potentially be one of the greatest strikers if he keeps going, but he’s got a long way to even come remotely close to Kane.

posted on 23/11/20

"Kane is not fit to lace Haalands boots, and Haaland is still a baby."

This is a ridiculous comment.

posted on 24/11/20

comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 1 day, 7 hours ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Pranky (U22336)
posted 1 minute ago
No the Polish lad is, excellent player though.

Best ever
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I’m not sure why that’s laughable though. A lot of people praise Alan Shearer for being one of the greatest strikers of our generation and to right, he was a superb striker, but why laugh when Harry Kane is mentioned ? His goal scoring is phenomenal. His hold up play incredible. His vision and range of passing world class. If anyone has actually watched Harry properly like we have, you wouldn’t be laughing. Lewandowski is superb, but Harry Kane is slightly better for me.
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I get the bias and he is world class but in terms of goals to games and doing it at the highest level Lewa is a level above. He has been hitting silly goal tallies for years.

Kane has awesome stats but Lewadowskis numbers are off the chart, season after season. If you look at just goals it's not even close.

Why can't a player just be world class instead of fans claiming he is the best based off a few games 😅
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Tbf FootyMcfootfoot, continually in threads with outrageous statements you often do match it - however with this partisan ‘oh look at me I’m neutral approach’ as if it justifies your comments.
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Yeah I'm a sucker for stats and not really getting into the rose tinted glasses. I also understand how much we over hype PL players. If you look at shot conversion, chances received etc it puts a different slant on things.

Doesn't sure hold the record for goals in a campaign without any penalties and he missed a handful of games due to his ban? Balloon d'or runner up and CL/league winner...I'd actually say he was probably the best striker of recent times in the PL but left and git even better

If city signed Kane I think he would win everything and become the best in the league ever but not atm.
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My point was evidently you don’t look at the stats, otherwise you wouldn’t have made than comment about his finishing. His finishing is freakish and he is (again) the only player who has outperformed his xG every season substantially
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Yet no one mentions Aguero... most hatricks and I'm sure he is the most clinical. Kanes assists are a new part of his game and it's too early, and unfair, to expect this form to continue. If he does he is definitely in the convoy.

I think Kane is world class but the youre making out I'm saying he is rubbish 😅 when it comes to the top you have to talk about Henry and his 20 assists and shearer/Aguero etc even nistelrooy etc not sure why there is any shame in that.


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I’m talking about finishing specifically though. Kane overperforms finishing statistics substantially every season, he is one of the best finishers since statistics started measuring that. Aguero’s hat tricks are irrelevant to him being clinical - longevity plays a part but so does the quality of team. If Kane played for City who would have blown away the hat trick record.
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That unfortunately isn't true. If you look at last season aguero and vardy dominated most categories.

https://totalfootballanalysis.com/data-analysis/best-finishers-2019-20-premier-league-data-analysis-statistics

He is exceptional but scoring more than xg doesn't mean others aren't performing better from season to season. Being the best is something few players can do for more than a year or two and it's because the margins between the best strikers is so small.

I get why spurs fans rate him the best I just think being the best fit for spurs doesn't mean he is the best in the world. He is world class 100% and def not far off though.

Also worth noting Vardy had a 30% conversion rate last year....that's crazy playing at a club like Leicester.

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