comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 27 seconds ago
Gary Neville discusses Klopp ?😂
In terms of football management, this is like Shane Richie discusses Stephen Hawkins. 🤔
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Which one is which
I'd be interested to see what would happen if the shoe was on the other foot and these injuries were to hit United/Spurs/City/Chelsea when they've been playing a lot of games this season as well.
Still time for that yet though.
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 3 minutes ago
Watched it and I thought Neville came across really well and highlighted some hypocrisies, mistruths and immaculate criticisms. The season is unique though, which I think he should have made clearer.
Due to the uniqueness managers should learn to be more adaptive - they love blaming schedules but the injuries or poor results are more on them than any broadcaster.
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Other managers have said exactly the same thing as Klopp, but Neville wasn't interested in referencing OGS, or Pep, or Mourinho.
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'd be interested to see what would happen if the shoe was on the other foot and these injuries were to hit United/Spurs/City/Chelsea when they've been playing a lot of games this season as well.
Still time for that yet though.
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yes, i'm sure you're really looking forward to that.
we do know that when, for the last 2 seasons, you were largely injury free whilst others struggled, instead of your fans showing any sympathy (or empathy) all we got was 1000 liverpool comedians screaming "they'll walk the league when laporte's back" every time City conceded a goal with laporte in the team.
still, fingers crossed for a spate of injuries across the league, that would make for a very merry christmas.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 25 minutes ago
Gary Neville got sacked for nearly relegating Valencia, probably the fourth biggest club in Spain. Not sure he knows much about management. I'm sure Klopp, multiple trophy winner, with a diploma in Sports Science, knows a thing or two, on the topic.
Neville seemed very selective with his stats.
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Dear me TOOR. Not your best post is it.
Firstly you do not have to be a better manager/player to have a different point of view.
Second, because it was Neville does not make his points worthless.
Third. I seem to remember you had some complaints about SAF, were you as good as him/
Fourth is your record as player and manager as good as Ole's? thought not. So we will hear no more criticism of him?
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'd be interested to see what would happen if the shoe was on the other foot and these injuries were to hit United/Spurs/City/Chelsea when they've been playing a lot of games this season as well.
Still time for that yet though.
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yes, i'm sure you're really looking forward to that.
we do know that when, for the last 2 seasons, you were largely injury free whilst others struggled, instead of your fans showing any sympathy (or empathy) all we got was 1000 liverpool comedians screaming "they'll walk the league when laporte's back" every time City conceded a goal with laporte in the team.
still, fingers crossed for a spate of injuries across the league, that would make for a very merry christmas.
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We have had many seasons with lots of injuries, all teams have
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 9 minutes ago
I'd be interested to see what would happen if the shoe was on the other foot and these injuries were to hit United/Spurs/City/Chelsea when they've been playing a lot of games this season as well.
Still time for that yet though.
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What would happen with who? Neville?
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
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We have had many seasons with lots of injuries, all teams have
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indeed. it was entirely predictable that having got lucky for 2 seasons, the pool fans would bemoan their luck as soon as a few injuries hit - salah for instance has missed 7 PL games in 3 1/4 seasons, but you'd never know that from the endless stream of "we are cursed" articles.
even this year their problems have been overblown, salah and mane have missed 1 PL match each, robertson zero, allisson 2, but you'd think they'd been rooting around in the U16 squad since day one of the season. but go and compare the team they put out vs chelsea with the home team's, and then tell me who was missing more players through injury.
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 3 minutes ago
Watched it and I thought Neville came across really well and highlighted some hypocrisies, mistruths and immaculate criticisms. The season is unique though, which I think he should have made clearer.
Due to the uniqueness managers should learn to be more adaptive - they love blaming schedules but the injuries or poor results are more on them than any broadcaster.
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Other managers have said exactly the same thing as Klopp, but Neville wasn't interested in referencing OGS, or Pep, or Mourinho.
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Oh no he said things about your manager, how will you cope
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 25 minutes ago
Gary Neville got sacked for nearly relegating Valencia, probably the fourth biggest club in Spain. Not sure he knows much about management. I'm sure Klopp, multiple trophy winner, with a diploma in Sports Science, knows a thing or two, on the topic.
Neville seemed very selective with his stats.
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Dear me TOOR. Not your best post is it.
Firstly you do not have to be a better manager/player to have a different point of view.
Second, because it was Neville does not make his points worthless.
Third. I seem to remember you had some complaints about SAF, were you as good as him/
Fourth is your record as player and manager as good as Ole's? thought not. So we will hear no more criticism of him?
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posted 36 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 11 minutes ago
Gary Neville got sacked for nearly relegating Valencia, probably the fourth biggest club in Spain. Not sure he knows much about management. I'm sure Klopp, multiple trophy winner, with a diploma in Sports Science, knows a thing or two, on the topic.
Neville seemed very selective with his stats.
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Hasn't Klopp got form for running players into the ground?
Didn't always go well for him as manager either. Probably why he went to LFC tbh. Had he been at the top of his game he probably would have said no
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He already said no to United due to them being a soulless business rather than a football club. Sorry
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Job was too big for him during his "break"
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
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We have had many seasons with lots of injuries, all teams have
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indeed. it was entirely predictable that having got lucky for 2 seasons, the pool fans would bemoan their luck as soon as a few injuries hit - salah for instance has missed 7 PL games in 3 1/4 seasons, but you'd never know that from the endless stream of "we are cursed" articles.
even this year their problems have been overblown, salah and mane have missed 1 PL match each, robertson zero, allisson 2, but you'd think they'd been rooting around in the U16 squad since day one of the season. but go and compare the team they put out vs chelsea with the home team's, and then tell me who was missing more players through injury.
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Yes, every year clubs have had injury problems, and fans and staff alike have still moaned about them.
I think the point is teams will always lose key players to injuries, but it's the volume of injuries Liverpool have suffered this year under these circumstances which is the big the issue. I can't remember the last time any top side suffered as many injuries as this and had a squad as depleted as this, but if they have, you can bet that their fans have bemoaned it and I'm sure the manager/staff of said club would be moaning as well. So it's no different for anybody.
In regards to how it would be different, not Neville's point of view because he's a pundit and should be neutral with his point, as I would expect. I was more referring to how opposition fans would react with injury problems like Liverpool have had this season.
It's been regarded as an injury crisis even by supposedly neutral pundits, that alone should tell you someone will inevitably moan about it.
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
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We have had many seasons with lots of injuries, all teams have
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indeed. it was entirely predictable that having got lucky for 2 seasons, the pool fans would bemoan their luck as soon as a few injuries hit - salah for instance has missed 7 PL games in 3 1/4 seasons, but you'd never know that from the endless stream of "we are cursed" articles.
even this year their problems have been overblown, salah and mane have missed 1 PL match each, robertson zero, allisson 2, but you'd think they'd been rooting around in the U16 squad since day one of the season. but go and compare the team they put out vs chelsea with the home team's, and then tell me who was missing more players through injury.
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The issue isn't we're the only side to have loads of injuries, it's more so it's rare to have this many just 10 games into the season, and 2 of those are season enders in the same position.
We've had at least 6 differing players out injured since game week 5.
I'm also not sure saying our injuries are overblow because 4 of our strongest 11 have been rarely affected is the best argument. You're basically admitting 7 have been.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
I think Gary made some great points but he also seemed to play down or exclude things that must have an effect, like last season / summer break.
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This, and internationals etc. Carra made some good points too. On 5 subs how it could benefit lower clubs more cause their game often falls down on tiredness at the end or too many yellow cards.
It all contributes to this insane amount of injuries happening atm and its only gna get worse over dec n january.
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
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The issue isn't we're the only side to have loads of injuries, it's more so it's rare to have this many just 10 games into the season, and 2 of those are season enders in the same position.
We've had at least 6 differing players out injured since game week 5.
I'm also not sure saying our injuries are overblow because 4 of our strongest 11 have been rarely affected is the best argument. You're basically admitting 7 have been.
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TAA has started 8 PL games, firmino 10, wijnaldum 9, jota has featured in 8. VVD has played more PL minutes this season than laporte, not that you would know it.
Winners tend to be bad losers. Klopp is no different.
The injuries we've had this year are more about bad luck than scheduling imo. The VVD injury isn't down to anything other than Pickford. Thiago = Richarlison. Gomez sounds like bad luck full stop.
You could argue the number of muscle injuries (Henderson, TAA, Milner, Fabinho) are higher than would usually be expected I guess. But even then it's not shockingly high, just problematically high given the other impact injuries.
The only real issues I have with this season is the international games - utter waste of time. Personally I'd have scrapped the Carabao Cup as well. But on those two issues everyone is in the same boat.
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
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The issue isn't we're the only side to have loads of injuries, it's more so it's rare to have this many just 10 games into the season, and 2 of those are season enders in the same position.
We've had at least 6 differing players out injured since game week 5.
I'm also not sure saying our injuries are overblow because 4 of our strongest 11 have been rarely affected is the best argument. You're basically admitting 7 have been.
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TAA has started 8 PL games, firmino 10, wijnaldum 9, jota has featured in 8. VVD has played more PL minutes this season than laporte, not that you would know it.
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Yeah the point he is referring to is the disruption in the squad. How many games have all those players started together, or even featured together in one game? My guess is not many, without looking it up.
No consistency in the starting line up because of the consistency and frequency of injuries, that's a big hinderance to any team.
It also isn’t much to suggest that this was likely to happen to Liverpool anyway. Not only had they been fortunate regarding injuries prior to this; but due to the shear number of games the first team players have been playing in the past 3/4 season. History has shown that player burnout/injuries will likely follow (Sanchez, Eriksen, etc)
JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
And if it were an opposition team suffering with injuries, you can bet the Liverpool fans would be joining in with similar comments that are being made to you right now.
Individually we can know ourselves whether we are hypocrites and you're probably not, but let's not pretend it wouldn't be the same whoever the team was... every club has them.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
And if it were an opposition team suffering with injuries, you can bet the Liverpool fans would be joining in with similar comments that are being made to you right now.
Individually we can know ourselves whether we are hypocrites and you're probably not, but let's not pretend it wouldn't be the same whoever the team was... every club has them.
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Yes, I know. It's the same for everyone and at every club.
As I say, I think the case in point is the uniqueness of the season and the volume of injuries suffered by one team. As I say, it could be Liverpool, or Spurs, or Man United, or Chelsea, it wouldn't matter, they would all be moaning all the same.
My issue is people keep thinking, because it's Liverpool, it's different. The likelihood is, it isn't. Any team who have suffered injuries like what Liverpool have would moan, so it's not anything against the club, like the OP seems to think, it's just the general principle of the situation.
pereira at leicester hasn't played once this season, soyuncu has played 4 of 10 PL matches, vs leeds they were missing their entire back 4.
aguero has started 2 matches, they beat burnley 5-0 missing laporte, sterling, and aguero, with fernandinho on the bench.
i asked earlier, when you played at stamford bridge, which team was missing more players? pulisic was chelsea's best player last year, he has played 2 of their 10 PL matches.
JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
I'm afraid you'll always get that, particularly as league winners.
Happened to little old United for many years... still does really.
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Gary Neville discusses Klopp's complaints
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posted on 4/12/20
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 27 seconds ago
Gary Neville discusses Klopp ?😂
In terms of football management, this is like Shane Richie discusses Stephen Hawkins. 🤔
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Which one is which
posted on 4/12/20
I'd be interested to see what would happen if the shoe was on the other foot and these injuries were to hit United/Spurs/City/Chelsea when they've been playing a lot of games this season as well.
Still time for that yet though.
posted on 4/12/20
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 3 minutes ago
Watched it and I thought Neville came across really well and highlighted some hypocrisies, mistruths and immaculate criticisms. The season is unique though, which I think he should have made clearer.
Due to the uniqueness managers should learn to be more adaptive - they love blaming schedules but the injuries or poor results are more on them than any broadcaster.
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Other managers have said exactly the same thing as Klopp, but Neville wasn't interested in referencing OGS, or Pep, or Mourinho.
posted on 4/12/20
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'd be interested to see what would happen if the shoe was on the other foot and these injuries were to hit United/Spurs/City/Chelsea when they've been playing a lot of games this season as well.
Still time for that yet though.
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yes, i'm sure you're really looking forward to that.
we do know that when, for the last 2 seasons, you were largely injury free whilst others struggled, instead of your fans showing any sympathy (or empathy) all we got was 1000 liverpool comedians screaming "they'll walk the league when laporte's back" every time City conceded a goal with laporte in the team.
still, fingers crossed for a spate of injuries across the league, that would make for a very merry christmas.
posted on 4/12/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 25 minutes ago
Gary Neville got sacked for nearly relegating Valencia, probably the fourth biggest club in Spain. Not sure he knows much about management. I'm sure Klopp, multiple trophy winner, with a diploma in Sports Science, knows a thing or two, on the topic.
Neville seemed very selective with his stats.
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Dear me TOOR. Not your best post is it.
Firstly you do not have to be a better manager/player to have a different point of view.
Second, because it was Neville does not make his points worthless.
Third. I seem to remember you had some complaints about SAF, were you as good as him/
Fourth is your record as player and manager as good as Ole's? thought not. So we will hear no more criticism of him?
posted on 4/12/20
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'd be interested to see what would happen if the shoe was on the other foot and these injuries were to hit United/Spurs/City/Chelsea when they've been playing a lot of games this season as well.
Still time for that yet though.
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yes, i'm sure you're really looking forward to that.
we do know that when, for the last 2 seasons, you were largely injury free whilst others struggled, instead of your fans showing any sympathy (or empathy) all we got was 1000 liverpool comedians screaming "they'll walk the league when laporte's back" every time City conceded a goal with laporte in the team.
still, fingers crossed for a spate of injuries across the league, that would make for a very merry christmas.
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We have had many seasons with lots of injuries, all teams have
posted on 4/12/20
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 9 minutes ago
I'd be interested to see what would happen if the shoe was on the other foot and these injuries were to hit United/Spurs/City/Chelsea when they've been playing a lot of games this season as well.
Still time for that yet though.
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What would happen with who? Neville?
posted on 4/12/20
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
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We have had many seasons with lots of injuries, all teams have
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indeed. it was entirely predictable that having got lucky for 2 seasons, the pool fans would bemoan their luck as soon as a few injuries hit - salah for instance has missed 7 PL games in 3 1/4 seasons, but you'd never know that from the endless stream of "we are cursed" articles.
even this year their problems have been overblown, salah and mane have missed 1 PL match each, robertson zero, allisson 2, but you'd think they'd been rooting around in the U16 squad since day one of the season. but go and compare the team they put out vs chelsea with the home team's, and then tell me who was missing more players through injury.
posted on 4/12/20
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 3 minutes ago
Watched it and I thought Neville came across really well and highlighted some hypocrisies, mistruths and immaculate criticisms. The season is unique though, which I think he should have made clearer.
Due to the uniqueness managers should learn to be more adaptive - they love blaming schedules but the injuries or poor results are more on them than any broadcaster.
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Other managers have said exactly the same thing as Klopp, but Neville wasn't interested in referencing OGS, or Pep, or Mourinho.
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Oh no he said things about your manager, how will you cope
posted on 4/12/20
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 25 minutes ago
Gary Neville got sacked for nearly relegating Valencia, probably the fourth biggest club in Spain. Not sure he knows much about management. I'm sure Klopp, multiple trophy winner, with a diploma in Sports Science, knows a thing or two, on the topic.
Neville seemed very selective with his stats.
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Dear me TOOR. Not your best post is it.
Firstly you do not have to be a better manager/player to have a different point of view.
Second, because it was Neville does not make his points worthless.
Third. I seem to remember you had some complaints about SAF, were you as good as him/
Fourth is your record as player and manager as good as Ole's? thought not. So we will hear no more criticism of him?
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bodied
posted on 4/12/20
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posted on 4/12/20
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 11 minutes ago
Gary Neville got sacked for nearly relegating Valencia, probably the fourth biggest club in Spain. Not sure he knows much about management. I'm sure Klopp, multiple trophy winner, with a diploma in Sports Science, knows a thing or two, on the topic.
Neville seemed very selective with his stats.
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Hasn't Klopp got form for running players into the ground?
Didn't always go well for him as manager either. Probably why he went to LFC tbh. Had he been at the top of his game he probably would have said no
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He already said no to United due to them being a soulless business rather than a football club. Sorry
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Job was too big for him during his "break"
posted on 4/12/20
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
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We have had many seasons with lots of injuries, all teams have
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indeed. it was entirely predictable that having got lucky for 2 seasons, the pool fans would bemoan their luck as soon as a few injuries hit - salah for instance has missed 7 PL games in 3 1/4 seasons, but you'd never know that from the endless stream of "we are cursed" articles.
even this year their problems have been overblown, salah and mane have missed 1 PL match each, robertson zero, allisson 2, but you'd think they'd been rooting around in the U16 squad since day one of the season. but go and compare the team they put out vs chelsea with the home team's, and then tell me who was missing more players through injury.
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posted on 4/12/20
Yes, every year clubs have had injury problems, and fans and staff alike have still moaned about them.
I think the point is teams will always lose key players to injuries, but it's the volume of injuries Liverpool have suffered this year under these circumstances which is the big the issue. I can't remember the last time any top side suffered as many injuries as this and had a squad as depleted as this, but if they have, you can bet that their fans have bemoaned it and I'm sure the manager/staff of said club would be moaning as well. So it's no different for anybody.
In regards to how it would be different, not Neville's point of view because he's a pundit and should be neutral with his point, as I would expect. I was more referring to how opposition fans would react with injury problems like Liverpool have had this season.
It's been regarded as an injury crisis even by supposedly neutral pundits, that alone should tell you someone will inevitably moan about it.
posted on 4/12/20
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
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We have had many seasons with lots of injuries, all teams have
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indeed. it was entirely predictable that having got lucky for 2 seasons, the pool fans would bemoan their luck as soon as a few injuries hit - salah for instance has missed 7 PL games in 3 1/4 seasons, but you'd never know that from the endless stream of "we are cursed" articles.
even this year their problems have been overblown, salah and mane have missed 1 PL match each, robertson zero, allisson 2, but you'd think they'd been rooting around in the U16 squad since day one of the season. but go and compare the team they put out vs chelsea with the home team's, and then tell me who was missing more players through injury.
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The issue isn't we're the only side to have loads of injuries, it's more so it's rare to have this many just 10 games into the season, and 2 of those are season enders in the same position.
We've had at least 6 differing players out injured since game week 5.
I'm also not sure saying our injuries are overblow because 4 of our strongest 11 have been rarely affected is the best argument. You're basically admitting 7 have been.
posted on 4/12/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
I think Gary made some great points but he also seemed to play down or exclude things that must have an effect, like last season / summer break.
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This, and internationals etc. Carra made some good points too. On 5 subs how it could benefit lower clubs more cause their game often falls down on tiredness at the end or too many yellow cards.
It all contributes to this insane amount of injuries happening atm and its only gna get worse over dec n january.
posted on 4/12/20
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
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The issue isn't we're the only side to have loads of injuries, it's more so it's rare to have this many just 10 games into the season, and 2 of those are season enders in the same position.
We've had at least 6 differing players out injured since game week 5.
I'm also not sure saying our injuries are overblow because 4 of our strongest 11 have been rarely affected is the best argument. You're basically admitting 7 have been.
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TAA has started 8 PL games, firmino 10, wijnaldum 9, jota has featured in 8. VVD has played more PL minutes this season than laporte, not that you would know it.
posted on 4/12/20
Winners tend to be bad losers. Klopp is no different.
The injuries we've had this year are more about bad luck than scheduling imo. The VVD injury isn't down to anything other than Pickford. Thiago = Richarlison. Gomez sounds like bad luck full stop.
You could argue the number of muscle injuries (Henderson, TAA, Milner, Fabinho) are higher than would usually be expected I guess. But even then it's not shockingly high, just problematically high given the other impact injuries.
The only real issues I have with this season is the international games - utter waste of time. Personally I'd have scrapped the Carabao Cup as well. But on those two issues everyone is in the same boat.
posted on 4/12/20
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
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The issue isn't we're the only side to have loads of injuries, it's more so it's rare to have this many just 10 games into the season, and 2 of those are season enders in the same position.
We've had at least 6 differing players out injured since game week 5.
I'm also not sure saying our injuries are overblow because 4 of our strongest 11 have been rarely affected is the best argument. You're basically admitting 7 have been.
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TAA has started 8 PL games, firmino 10, wijnaldum 9, jota has featured in 8. VVD has played more PL minutes this season than laporte, not that you would know it.
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Yeah the point he is referring to is the disruption in the squad. How many games have all those players started together, or even featured together in one game? My guess is not many, without looking it up.
No consistency in the starting line up because of the consistency and frequency of injuries, that's a big hinderance to any team.
posted on 4/12/20
It also isn’t much to suggest that this was likely to happen to Liverpool anyway. Not only had they been fortunate regarding injuries prior to this; but due to the shear number of games the first team players have been playing in the past 3/4 season. History has shown that player burnout/injuries will likely follow (Sanchez, Eriksen, etc)
posted on 4/12/20
JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
And if it were an opposition team suffering with injuries, you can bet the Liverpool fans would be joining in with similar comments that are being made to you right now.
Individually we can know ourselves whether we are hypocrites and you're probably not, but let's not pretend it wouldn't be the same whoever the team was... every club has them.
posted on 4/12/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
And if it were an opposition team suffering with injuries, you can bet the Liverpool fans would be joining in with similar comments that are being made to you right now.
Individually we can know ourselves whether we are hypocrites and you're probably not, but let's not pretend it wouldn't be the same whoever the team was... every club has them.
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Yes, I know. It's the same for everyone and at every club.
As I say, I think the case in point is the uniqueness of the season and the volume of injuries suffered by one team. As I say, it could be Liverpool, or Spurs, or Man United, or Chelsea, it wouldn't matter, they would all be moaning all the same.
My issue is people keep thinking, because it's Liverpool, it's different. The likelihood is, it isn't. Any team who have suffered injuries like what Liverpool have would moan, so it's not anything against the club, like the OP seems to think, it's just the general principle of the situation.
posted on 4/12/20
pereira at leicester hasn't played once this season, soyuncu has played 4 of 10 PL matches, vs leeds they were missing their entire back 4.
aguero has started 2 matches, they beat burnley 5-0 missing laporte, sterling, and aguero, with fernandinho on the bench.
i asked earlier, when you played at stamford bridge, which team was missing more players? pulisic was chelsea's best player last year, he has played 2 of their 10 PL matches.
posted on 4/12/20
JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
I'm afraid you'll always get that, particularly as league winners.
Happened to little old United for many years... still does really.
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