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comment by DoireDevilBhoy (U10745)
posted 3 minutes ago
Lewis is a superb driver, but IMO nowhere near the list of greats. Compare with Schumacher who he’s now equalled. In all but two of Lewis world championships his teammate has finished 2nd in the championship, proving how strong the car was considering his teammates are hardly a whose who of drivers. Compare this to Schumacher, who despite being claimed always had the best car, only twice out of his 7 did his teammates manage to finish second...the Ferrari in that era was only the better car when driven by MS (albeit he also had a huge input into how the car was developed), the current era Mercedes is the best car no matter who drives it.
Also someone else earlier said you want the best driver and put him in the best car (or something to that effect), this is very true with Mercedes, but look at how awful Ferrari were when Schumacher joined, along with Ross Brawn he revolutionised them and it took a couple of years, if he’d went to McLaren or Williams at the time he would be out of site in terms of world championships.
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Could it not just me with Hamilton he had the second best driver on the same team, and Schumacher didn’t?
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No, because we've seen Hamilton's team mates in action and they aren't anything special, bar Alonso, whom he finished level on points with.
comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Stretchy Mendy (U1641)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by DoireDevilBhoy (U10745)
posted 3 minutes ago
Lewis is a superb driver, but IMO nowhere near the list of greats. Compare with Schumacher who he’s now equalled. In all but two of Lewis world championships his teammate has finished 2nd in the championship, proving how strong the car was considering his teammates are hardly a whose who of drivers. Compare this to Schumacher, who despite being claimed always had the best car, only twice out of his 7 did his teammates manage to finish second...the Ferrari in that era was only the better car when driven by MS (albeit he also had a huge input into how the car was developed), the current era Mercedes is the best car no matter who drives it.
Also someone else earlier said you want the best driver and put him in the best car (or something to that effect), this is very true with Mercedes, but look at how awful Ferrari were when Schumacher joined, along with Ross Brawn he revolutionised them and it took a couple of years, if he’d went to McLaren or Williams at the time he would be out of site in terms of world championships.
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Could it not just me with Hamilton he had the second best driver on the same team, and Schumacher didn’t?
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No, because we've seen Hamilton's team mates in action and they aren't anything special, bar Alonso, whom he finished level on points with.
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Rosberg?
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posted 21 seconds ago
comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Stretchy Mendy (U1641)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by DoireDevilBhoy (U10745)
posted 3 minutes ago
Lewis is a superb driver, but IMO nowhere near the list of greats. Compare with Schumacher who he’s now equalled. In all but two of Lewis world championships his teammate has finished 2nd in the championship, proving how strong the car was considering his teammates are hardly a whose who of drivers. Compare this to Schumacher, who despite being claimed always had the best car, only twice out of his 7 did his teammates manage to finish second...the Ferrari in that era was only the better car when driven by MS (albeit he also had a huge input into how the car was developed), the current era Mercedes is the best car no matter who drives it.
Also someone else earlier said you want the best driver and put him in the best car (or something to that effect), this is very true with Mercedes, but look at how awful Ferrari were when Schumacher joined, along with Ross Brawn he revolutionised them and it took a couple of years, if he’d went to McLaren or Williams at the time he would be out of site in terms of world championships.
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Could it not just me with Hamilton he had the second best driver on the same team, and Schumacher didn’t?
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No, because we've seen Hamilton's team mates in action and they aren't anything special, bar Alonso, whom he finished level on points with.
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Rosberg?
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Rosberg was a very good driver, who had a lot of luck with reliability compared to Lewis when he won the world championship. Was he of the level of say, Hamilton, Alonso, Verstappen? Not for me
I should caveat that with saying there are very very few if any drivers who could challenge Lewis, regardless of it being the fastest car. He's a generational talent and he's not in the Merc by accident
I've always wondered why many British people hate Hamilton.
Why don’t Mercedes get another driver instead if he’s not that great?
I think Hamilton is near the best driver although I think many are similar pace to him in qualifying if they had his car.
Look at Alonso, he struggled against Hamilton in the season they raced as teammates. Same for Button. Both these drivers were world champions the season before.
I think Vettel won his titles as he had a really slow teammate and the best car by miles. Hamilton has generally had the Red Bull close to him and Ferrari in previous years.
Hamilton deserved to win that 2016 season with Rosberg. Rosberg won it due to reliability and also that crash in Spain.
Remember Rosberg used to easily beat Schumacher when teammate most of the time even if he was older then. Rosberg said himself all he was focused was on the F1 in 2016 season and Hamilton was flying around everywhere that season, treating it like a part-time job you could say.
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 1 hour, 54 minutes ago
comment by Divoc==8k (U22339)
posted 8 seconds ago
George Russell is tipped to be a future world champion.
Ferrari had the fastest car in 2018 & 2019
If you build the best car you want the best driver
Genuine question.... do you watch F1 and understand it or is it just 20 cars driving around a track for you?
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Ferrari didn't have the fastest car in 2018 and 2019,they had a car on certain circuits that could match or be slightly better than the Mercs.
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Hamilton would've been world champion both those years if he was driving the Ferrari, Vettel made so many mistakes and got schooled every time they went wheel to wheel.
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I think if Hamilton was in the same Red Bull as Vettel championship winning cars, I think Vettel would struggle to manage to get a pole.
Vettel was lucky he had a really slow teammate in charge. I think of the recent Red Bull drivers. Ricciardo and Verstappen were 2 of the fastest. Gasly and Albon drove at a similar level to Vettel I would say. I think that Red Bull car was the fastest cornering car in that era by miles.
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
Reason why Bottas is in the second car is all to see.He's no threat to Hamilton,he's not disruptive but he's competent enough to collect good points in a dominant car. Put a hungry driver in it and they'd challenge Hamilton and that's not what Mercedes want
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i agree, i want to see verstappen in mercedes with Hamilton. But lets not kid ourselves Hamilton has been the most accomplished driver for a long time now. I think Leclerc, Verstappen etc n the young talent could challenge him given a similar car but if they were give exact same cars i'd still back hamilton to come out on top for now.
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
I'm not a massive F1 fan but my dad loves it. He reckons if you want to know how good a driver is, look at how they do in wet conditions.
Senna used to excel in the rain, Schumacher was so far ahead it was almost funny. Hamilton is the same.
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Hamilton should have won the 2010 championship but his car kept playing up and he still managed to beat Button. 2011 yes Button beat him but 2012 it was back to normal despite Hamilton retiring from so many races.
comment by DoireDevilBhoy (U10745)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
Lewis is a superb driver, but IMO nowhere near the list of greats. Compare with Schumacher who he’s now equalled. In all but two of Lewis world championships his teammate has finished 2nd in the championship, proving how strong the car was considering his teammates are hardly a whose who of drivers. Compare this to Schumacher, who despite being claimed always had the best car, only twice out of his 7 did his teammates manage to finish second...the Ferrari in that era was only the better car when driven by MS (albeit he also had a huge input into how the car was developed), the current era Mercedes is the best car no matter who drives it.
Also someone else earlier said you want the best driver and put him in the best car (or something to that effect), this is very true with Mercedes, but look at how awful Ferrari were when Schumacher joined, along with Ross Brawn he revolutionised them and it took a couple of years, if he’d went to McLaren or Williams at the time he would be out of site in terms of world championships.
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Merc were rubbish when he joined them though, everyone was questioning why he went there but he saw something nobody else did.
Hamilton makes very few mistakes. Bottas was one of the fastest drivers coming into the team and then when faced against Hamilton he struggled. Bottas has to pretty much nail every corner to get a pole against Hamilton.
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 6 minutes ago
See also:
Messi wouldn't score as many goals playing for Zaragoza. Proves it's about the quality of the team you play for.
Jimi Hendrix wouldn't have got laid so much if he'd played guitar in an English revival folk group instead of a rock band. Proves it's not about your personal charisma and magical guitar hero powers.
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odd comparison
messi has to use just his ability on a football pitch.
if lewis' engine is not superior to others his ability might get him up the grid but he does not win races or titles.
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He won races and had amazing drives, nearly won the world championship when McLaren didn't have anywhere near the fastest car.
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 3 minutes ago
Didn't Button get more points than Hamilton when they were team mates?
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no1s saying the other drivers arent brilliant in their own right, theres been some top drivers about. But if they were Hamiltons level and levels of consistency do you not think the best team with the best car would hire them over Hamilton?
Mercedes were not the best team with the best car when Lewis joined them either. With him theyve reached the top. Make no mistake his input on everything they do has been vital doesnt just drive the car.
Coulthard and Irvine were really slow F1 drivers. Damon Hill was a really slow F1 driver. I think if Hamilton had teammates as slow as Coulthard, Irvine and Hill he would come close to lapping them. Bottas is much faster than Hill, irvine, Barrichello Coulthard etc.
Interestingly Rosberg did race against Schumacher and easily beat him.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/schumacher-and-rosbergs-head-to-head-record-at-mercedes/3219330/?nrt=54
https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/24181/12119742/lewis-hamilton-explains-valtteri-bottas-respect-after-emilia-romagna-gp-pole-defeat
You can see how hard it is to beat Hamilton on pole.
Russell the fastest again. Not surprised as he is really fast.
Let’s wait for the race before we get ahead of ourselves, perhaps?
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 9 minutes ago
Coulthard and Irvine were really slow F1 drivers. Damon Hill was a really slow F1 driver. I think if Hamilton had teammates as slow as Coulthard, Irvine and Hill he would come close to lapping them. Bottas is much faster than Hill, irvine, Barrichello Coulthard etc.
Interestingly Rosberg did race against Schumacher and easily beat him.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/schumacher-and-rosbergs-head-to-head-record-at-mercedes/3219330/?nrt=54
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You really do talk shiite,why was former world champion slow.Or why where multi race winner Coulthard or F1 winner Irvine also slow.
Be great to hear this nugget explain this
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comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 15 minutes ago
Coulthard and Irvine were really slow F1 drivers. Damon Hill was a really slow F1 driver. I think if Hamilton had teammates as slow as Coulthard, Irvine and Hill he would come close to lapping them. Bottas is much faster than Hill, irvine, Barrichello Coulthard etc.
Interestingly Rosberg did race against Schumacher and easily beat him.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/schumacher-and-rosbergs-head-to-head-record-at-mercedes/3219330/?nrt=54
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This is another example of statistics being extremely misleading. Schumacher was 41 years old and hadn't raced in the previous three years when he returned to Mercedes. Rosberg beating a guy who was past his best and knew it enough to retire for 3 years is not a barometer of anything other than Michael's loss of pace
Loved Ronnie O'sullivan when he likened Hamilton's prowess as the best F1 driver ever.
O'sullivan said 'it would be like me playing against other players but every shot I played they made the pockets bigger for me'
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posted on 4/12/20
comment by Stretchy Mendy (U1641)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by DoireDevilBhoy (U10745)
posted 3 minutes ago
Lewis is a superb driver, but IMO nowhere near the list of greats. Compare with Schumacher who he’s now equalled. In all but two of Lewis world championships his teammate has finished 2nd in the championship, proving how strong the car was considering his teammates are hardly a whose who of drivers. Compare this to Schumacher, who despite being claimed always had the best car, only twice out of his 7 did his teammates manage to finish second...the Ferrari in that era was only the better car when driven by MS (albeit he also had a huge input into how the car was developed), the current era Mercedes is the best car no matter who drives it.
Also someone else earlier said you want the best driver and put him in the best car (or something to that effect), this is very true with Mercedes, but look at how awful Ferrari were when Schumacher joined, along with Ross Brawn he revolutionised them and it took a couple of years, if he’d went to McLaren or Williams at the time he would be out of site in terms of world championships.
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Could it not just me with Hamilton he had the second best driver on the same team, and Schumacher didn’t?
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No, because we've seen Hamilton's team mates in action and they aren't anything special, bar Alonso, whom he finished level on points with.
posted on 4/12/20
comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Stretchy Mendy (U1641)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by DoireDevilBhoy (U10745)
posted 3 minutes ago
Lewis is a superb driver, but IMO nowhere near the list of greats. Compare with Schumacher who he’s now equalled. In all but two of Lewis world championships his teammate has finished 2nd in the championship, proving how strong the car was considering his teammates are hardly a whose who of drivers. Compare this to Schumacher, who despite being claimed always had the best car, only twice out of his 7 did his teammates manage to finish second...the Ferrari in that era was only the better car when driven by MS (albeit he also had a huge input into how the car was developed), the current era Mercedes is the best car no matter who drives it.
Also someone else earlier said you want the best driver and put him in the best car (or something to that effect), this is very true with Mercedes, but look at how awful Ferrari were when Schumacher joined, along with Ross Brawn he revolutionised them and it took a couple of years, if he’d went to McLaren or Williams at the time he would be out of site in terms of world championships.
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Could it not just me with Hamilton he had the second best driver on the same team, and Schumacher didn’t?
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No, because we've seen Hamilton's team mates in action and they aren't anything special, bar Alonso, whom he finished level on points with.
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Rosberg?
posted on 4/12/20
comment by Divoc==8k (U22339)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Stretchy Mendy (U1641)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by DoireDevilBhoy (U10745)
posted 3 minutes ago
Lewis is a superb driver, but IMO nowhere near the list of greats. Compare with Schumacher who he’s now equalled. In all but two of Lewis world championships his teammate has finished 2nd in the championship, proving how strong the car was considering his teammates are hardly a whose who of drivers. Compare this to Schumacher, who despite being claimed always had the best car, only twice out of his 7 did his teammates manage to finish second...the Ferrari in that era was only the better car when driven by MS (albeit he also had a huge input into how the car was developed), the current era Mercedes is the best car no matter who drives it.
Also someone else earlier said you want the best driver and put him in the best car (or something to that effect), this is very true with Mercedes, but look at how awful Ferrari were when Schumacher joined, along with Ross Brawn he revolutionised them and it took a couple of years, if he’d went to McLaren or Williams at the time he would be out of site in terms of world championships.
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Could it not just me with Hamilton he had the second best driver on the same team, and Schumacher didn’t?
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No, because we've seen Hamilton's team mates in action and they aren't anything special, bar Alonso, whom he finished level on points with.
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Rosberg?
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Rosberg was a very good driver, who had a lot of luck with reliability compared to Lewis when he won the world championship. Was he of the level of say, Hamilton, Alonso, Verstappen? Not for me
posted on 4/12/20
I should caveat that with saying there are very very few if any drivers who could challenge Lewis, regardless of it being the fastest car. He's a generational talent and he's not in the Merc by accident
posted on 4/12/20
I've always wondered why many British people hate Hamilton.
posted on 4/12/20
Why don’t Mercedes get another driver instead if he’s not that great?
posted on 4/12/20
I think Hamilton is near the best driver although I think many are similar pace to him in qualifying if they had his car.
Look at Alonso, he struggled against Hamilton in the season they raced as teammates. Same for Button. Both these drivers were world champions the season before.
I think Vettel won his titles as he had a really slow teammate and the best car by miles. Hamilton has generally had the Red Bull close to him and Ferrari in previous years.
Hamilton deserved to win that 2016 season with Rosberg. Rosberg won it due to reliability and also that crash in Spain.
Remember Rosberg used to easily beat Schumacher when teammate most of the time even if he was older then. Rosberg said himself all he was focused was on the F1 in 2016 season and Hamilton was flying around everywhere that season, treating it like a part-time job you could say.
posted on 4/12/20
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 1 hour, 54 minutes ago
comment by Divoc==8k (U22339)
posted 8 seconds ago
George Russell is tipped to be a future world champion.
Ferrari had the fastest car in 2018 & 2019
If you build the best car you want the best driver
Genuine question.... do you watch F1 and understand it or is it just 20 cars driving around a track for you?
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Ferrari didn't have the fastest car in 2018 and 2019,they had a car on certain circuits that could match or be slightly better than the Mercs.
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Hamilton would've been world champion both those years if he was driving the Ferrari, Vettel made so many mistakes and got schooled every time they went wheel to wheel.
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posted on 4/12/20
I think if Hamilton was in the same Red Bull as Vettel championship winning cars, I think Vettel would struggle to manage to get a pole.
Vettel was lucky he had a really slow teammate in charge. I think of the recent Red Bull drivers. Ricciardo and Verstappen were 2 of the fastest. Gasly and Albon drove at a similar level to Vettel I would say. I think that Red Bull car was the fastest cornering car in that era by miles.
posted on 4/12/20
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
Reason why Bottas is in the second car is all to see.He's no threat to Hamilton,he's not disruptive but he's competent enough to collect good points in a dominant car. Put a hungry driver in it and they'd challenge Hamilton and that's not what Mercedes want
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i agree, i want to see verstappen in mercedes with Hamilton. But lets not kid ourselves Hamilton has been the most accomplished driver for a long time now. I think Leclerc, Verstappen etc n the young talent could challenge him given a similar car but if they were give exact same cars i'd still back hamilton to come out on top for now.
posted on 4/12/20
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
I'm not a massive F1 fan but my dad loves it. He reckons if you want to know how good a driver is, look at how they do in wet conditions.
Senna used to excel in the rain, Schumacher was so far ahead it was almost funny. Hamilton is the same.
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posted on 4/12/20
Hamilton should have won the 2010 championship but his car kept playing up and he still managed to beat Button. 2011 yes Button beat him but 2012 it was back to normal despite Hamilton retiring from so many races.
posted on 4/12/20
comment by DoireDevilBhoy (U10745)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
Lewis is a superb driver, but IMO nowhere near the list of greats. Compare with Schumacher who he’s now equalled. In all but two of Lewis world championships his teammate has finished 2nd in the championship, proving how strong the car was considering his teammates are hardly a whose who of drivers. Compare this to Schumacher, who despite being claimed always had the best car, only twice out of his 7 did his teammates manage to finish second...the Ferrari in that era was only the better car when driven by MS (albeit he also had a huge input into how the car was developed), the current era Mercedes is the best car no matter who drives it.
Also someone else earlier said you want the best driver and put him in the best car (or something to that effect), this is very true with Mercedes, but look at how awful Ferrari were when Schumacher joined, along with Ross Brawn he revolutionised them and it took a couple of years, if he’d went to McLaren or Williams at the time he would be out of site in terms of world championships.
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Merc were rubbish when he joined them though, everyone was questioning why he went there but he saw something nobody else did.
posted on 4/12/20
Hamilton makes very few mistakes. Bottas was one of the fastest drivers coming into the team and then when faced against Hamilton he struggled. Bottas has to pretty much nail every corner to get a pole against Hamilton.
posted on 4/12/20
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 6 minutes ago
See also:
Messi wouldn't score as many goals playing for Zaragoza. Proves it's about the quality of the team you play for.
Jimi Hendrix wouldn't have got laid so much if he'd played guitar in an English revival folk group instead of a rock band. Proves it's not about your personal charisma and magical guitar hero powers.
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odd comparison
messi has to use just his ability on a football pitch.
if lewis' engine is not superior to others his ability might get him up the grid but he does not win races or titles.
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He won races and had amazing drives, nearly won the world championship when McLaren didn't have anywhere near the fastest car.
posted on 4/12/20
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 3 minutes ago
Didn't Button get more points than Hamilton when they were team mates?
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no1s saying the other drivers arent brilliant in their own right, theres been some top drivers about. But if they were Hamiltons level and levels of consistency do you not think the best team with the best car would hire them over Hamilton?
Mercedes were not the best team with the best car when Lewis joined them either. With him theyve reached the top. Make no mistake his input on everything they do has been vital doesnt just drive the car.
posted on 4/12/20
Coulthard and Irvine were really slow F1 drivers. Damon Hill was a really slow F1 driver. I think if Hamilton had teammates as slow as Coulthard, Irvine and Hill he would come close to lapping them. Bottas is much faster than Hill, irvine, Barrichello Coulthard etc.
Interestingly Rosberg did race against Schumacher and easily beat him.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/schumacher-and-rosbergs-head-to-head-record-at-mercedes/3219330/?nrt=54
posted on 4/12/20
https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/24181/12119742/lewis-hamilton-explains-valtteri-bottas-respect-after-emilia-romagna-gp-pole-defeat
You can see how hard it is to beat Hamilton on pole.
posted on 4/12/20
Russell the fastest again. Not surprised as he is really fast.
posted on 4/12/20
Let’s wait for the race before we get ahead of ourselves, perhaps?
posted on 4/12/20
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 9 minutes ago
Coulthard and Irvine were really slow F1 drivers. Damon Hill was a really slow F1 driver. I think if Hamilton had teammates as slow as Coulthard, Irvine and Hill he would come close to lapping them. Bottas is much faster than Hill, irvine, Barrichello Coulthard etc.
Interestingly Rosberg did race against Schumacher and easily beat him.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/schumacher-and-rosbergs-head-to-head-record-at-mercedes/3219330/?nrt=54
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You really do talk shiite,why was former world champion slow.Or why where multi race winner Coulthard or F1 winner Irvine also slow.
Be great to hear this nugget explain this
posted on 4/12/20
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posted on 4/12/20
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 15 minutes ago
Coulthard and Irvine were really slow F1 drivers. Damon Hill was a really slow F1 driver. I think if Hamilton had teammates as slow as Coulthard, Irvine and Hill he would come close to lapping them. Bottas is much faster than Hill, irvine, Barrichello Coulthard etc.
Interestingly Rosberg did race against Schumacher and easily beat him.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/schumacher-and-rosbergs-head-to-head-record-at-mercedes/3219330/?nrt=54
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This is another example of statistics being extremely misleading. Schumacher was 41 years old and hadn't raced in the previous three years when he returned to Mercedes. Rosberg beating a guy who was past his best and knew it enough to retire for 3 years is not a barometer of anything other than Michael's loss of pace
posted on 4/12/20
Loved Ronnie O'sullivan when he likened Hamilton's prowess as the best F1 driver ever.
O'sullivan said 'it would be like me playing against other players but every shot I played they made the pockets bigger for me'
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