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posted on 4/12/20

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Bumblebeetuna (U4302)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 23 minutes ago
The car is a big deal of course, I mean nobody who follows F1 would say Vettel is a better driver than Alonso but he's won 4 titles to 2. You need luck to be at the right team at the right time. But I don't know how anyone who follows F1 doesn't think Hamilton is easily the best driver in the world. The dominance of the Merc right now actually does his talent a disservice. When the new regs come in then we will hopefully see other teams on a more level playing field.
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Budget also plays a part. It’s very difficult for independent and customer teams to compete with manufacturers. Teams with more resources will always do better, just how it’s always been in F1. The only team that can complete financially with Merc is Ferrari. But they have their own issues.
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Lotus? Williams ?
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They had works deals which basically means exclusive engine and partnership where they work together to create an engine with the chassis. A works deal for independent teams is vital. As a customer they’ll never be able to beat a manufacturer. Unfortunately with current v6 engines, they’re so expensive to build, there’s only 4 engine manufacturers soon to be 3 as Honda’s pulling out. Doesn’t give the independent teams much of a chance.

posted on 4/12/20

comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Bumblebeetuna (U4302)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 23 minutes ago
The car is a big deal of course, I mean nobody who follows F1 would say Vettel is a better driver than Alonso but he's won 4 titles to 2. You need luck to be at the right team at the right time. But I don't know how anyone who follows F1 doesn't think Hamilton is easily the best driver in the world. The dominance of the Merc right now actually does his talent a disservice. When the new regs come in then we will hopefully see other teams on a more level playing field.
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Budget also plays a part. It’s very difficult for independent and customer teams to compete with manufacturers. Teams with more resources will always do better, just how it’s always been in F1. The only team that can complete financially with Merc is Ferrari. But they have their own issues.
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Lotus? Williams ?
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Hesketh?
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Totally different eras,when they competed the likes of Derby,Forest and Burnley's competed and won the old first division.

Mercedes F1 team employs 950 people for the F1 team and 550 people working on it's engine development.That's 1500 people for 2 cars
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True, but it said that's how it's always been.
It is now though for sure

posted on 4/12/20

comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Bumblebeetuna (U4302)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 23 minutes ago
The car is a big deal of course, I mean nobody who follows F1 would say Vettel is a better driver than Alonso but he's won 4 titles to 2. You need luck to be at the right team at the right time. But I don't know how anyone who follows F1 doesn't think Hamilton is easily the best driver in the world. The dominance of the Merc right now actually does his talent a disservice. When the new regs come in then we will hopefully see other teams on a more level playing field.
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Budget also plays a part. It’s very difficult for independent and customer teams to compete with manufacturers. Teams with more resources will always do better, just how it’s always been in F1. The only team that can complete financially with Merc is Ferrari. But they have their own issues.
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Also being an engine manufacturer is a big advantage.You build engines to suit your own teams chassis,plus you can refuse to sell engines to teams you think could be competitive against you.

Hence the reason why Merc will never supply their engines to red bull.
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They’re supplying McLaren next year, a team they had a works deal, although they’re a fallen giant these days. Biggest mistake McLaren made losing works status with Merc. They slid down the table ever since, the Honda partnership was a disaster and now they’re back as a customer. As McLaren fan I’d love to see them competing for wins again.

posted on 4/12/20

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Bumblebeetuna (U4302)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 23 minutes ago
The car is a big deal of course, I mean nobody who follows F1 would say Vettel is a better driver than Alonso but he's won 4 titles to 2. You need luck to be at the right team at the right time. But I don't know how anyone who follows F1 doesn't think Hamilton is easily the best driver in the world. The dominance of the Merc right now actually does his talent a disservice. When the new regs come in then we will hopefully see other teams on a more level playing field.
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Budget also plays a part. It’s very difficult for independent and customer teams to compete with manufacturers. Teams with more resources will always do better, just how it’s always been in F1. The only team that can complete financially with Merc is Ferrari. But they have their own issues.
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Lotus? Williams ?
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Hesketh?
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Totally different eras,when they competed the likes of Derby,Forest and Burnley's competed and won the old first division.

Mercedes F1 team employs 950 people for the F1 team and 550 people working on it's engine development.That's 1500 people for 2 cars
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True, but it said that's how it's always been.
It is now though for sure
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Going back to the 70's 80's and most of the 90's you had independent engine suppliers like cosworth,who basically built engines and supplied them to whatever teams wanted them basically of the shelf.

Since F1 decided to go down the hybrid engine era then costs have been so prohibitive it's become an engine manufacturer series.Unfortunately only 1 has won the championships,it's killing the sport.

posted on 4/12/20

In 2013
Points: Hamilton 189 Rosberg 171
Poles: Hamilton 5 Rosberg 3
Wins: Hamilton 1 Rosberg 2
Podiums: Hamilton 5 Rosberg 4
Points finish: Hamilton 17 Rosberg 16
DNF’s: Hamilton 1 Rosberg 2
WDC: Hamilton 4th Rosberg 6th

In 2014
Points: Hamilton 384 Rosberg 317
Poles: Hamilton 7 Rosberg 11
Wins: Hamilton 11 Rosberg 5
Podiums: Hamilton 16 Rosberg 15
Points finish: Hamilton 16 Rosberg 16
DNF’s: Hamilton 3 Rosberg 2
WDC: Hamilton 1st Rosberg 2nd

In 2015
Points: Hamilton 381 Rosberg 322
Poles: Hamilton 11 Rosberg 7
Wins: Hamilton 10 Rosberg 6
Podiums: Hamilton 17 Rosberg 15
Points finish: Hamilton 18 Rosberg 17
DNF’s: Hamilton 1 Rosberg 1
WDC: Hamilton 1st Rosberg 2nd

In 2016
Points: Hamilton 380 Rosberg 385
Poles: Hamilton 12 Rosberg 8
Wins: Hamilton 10 Rosberg 9
Podiums: Hamilton 17 Rosberg 16
Points finish: Hamilton 19 Rosberg 20
DNF’s: Hamilton 2 Rosberg 1
WDC: Hamilton 2nd Rosberg 1st

out qualified: Hamilton 42 to Rosberg 36
Races won: Hamilton 32 to Rosberg 22
Podiums: Hamilton 55 to Rosberg 50
Ahead when both cars finished: Hamilton 37 to Rosberg 27
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I saw this post on youtube. The crazy thing was Rosberg won the championship the season Lewis drove amazing. That one brand new power unit cost him the championship or that crash in Spain could have been the race he got those points to win it in.

posted on 4/12/20

comment by Bumblebeetuna (U4302)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Bumblebeetuna (U4302)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 23 minutes ago
The car is a big deal of course, I mean nobody who follows F1 would say Vettel is a better driver than Alonso but he's won 4 titles to 2. You need luck to be at the right team at the right time. But I don't know how anyone who follows F1 doesn't think Hamilton is easily the best driver in the world. The dominance of the Merc right now actually does his talent a disservice. When the new regs come in then we will hopefully see other teams on a more level playing field.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Budget also plays a part. It’s very difficult for independent and customer teams to compete with manufacturers. Teams with more resources will always do better, just how it’s always been in F1. The only team that can complete financially with Merc is Ferrari. But they have their own issues.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Also being an engine manufacturer is a big advantage.You build engines to suit your own teams chassis,plus you can refuse to sell engines to teams you think could be competitive against you.

Hence the reason why Merc will never supply their engines to red bull.
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They’re supplying McLaren next year, a team they had a works deal, although they’re a fallen giant these days. Biggest mistake McLaren made losing works status with Merc. They slid down the table ever since, the Honda partnership was a disaster and now they’re back as a customer. As McLaren fan I’d love to see them competing for wins again.
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Think Mclaren could see they could never win the title with the same engine as the Mercs and decided Honda was the only option and I think they were right.

Problem is both they and Honda didn't realize how difficult and long this engine series would take to develop.Also Mclaren insisting the engine had to be so compact that the turbo size was comprimised didn't help.Just like Alonso having terrible choices when it came to moving teams,then Mclaren have been the same with engines.

posted on 4/12/20

comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Bumblebeetuna (U4302)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Bumblebeetuna (U4302)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 23 minutes ago
The car is a big deal of course, I mean nobody who follows F1 would say Vettel is a better driver than Alonso but he's won 4 titles to 2. You need luck to be at the right team at the right time. But I don't know how anyone who follows F1 doesn't think Hamilton is easily the best driver in the world. The dominance of the Merc right now actually does his talent a disservice. When the new regs come in then we will hopefully see other teams on a more level playing field.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Budget also plays a part. It’s very difficult for independent and customer teams to compete with manufacturers. Teams with more resources will always do better, just how it’s always been in F1. The only team that can complete financially with Merc is Ferrari. But they have their own issues.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Also being an engine manufacturer is a big advantage.You build engines to suit your own teams chassis,plus you can refuse to sell engines to teams you think could be competitive against you.

Hence the reason why Merc will never supply their engines to red bull.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They’re supplying McLaren next year, a team they had a works deal, although they’re a fallen giant these days. Biggest mistake McLaren made losing works status with Merc. They slid down the table ever since, the Honda partnership was a disaster and now they’re back as a customer. As McLaren fan I’d love to see them competing for wins again.
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Think Mclaren could see they could never win the title with the same engine as the Mercs and decided Honda was the only option and I think they were right.

Problem is both they and Honda didn't realize how difficult and long this engine series would take to develop.Also Mclaren insisting the engine had to be so compact that the turbo size was comprimised didn't help.Just like Alonso having terrible choices when it came to moving teams,then Mclaren have been the same with engines.
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Yeah Ron Dennis acknowledged that too. It was kind of their doing, if you go back to 2009 when Brawn won the title, they had a Merc engine which was approved by McLaren to allow Merc to supply then. Also the conflict of in these with McLaren deciding to make road cars which competed with Merc resulted in them ending their partnership. Selling their 30% stake back. Then buying Brawn and the rest is history.

posted on 4/12/20

you put anyone else on the grid in Hamiltons car, they're world champion. simple.

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You are talking utter bollox there mate.

posted on 4/12/20

I really don't like Hamilton but surely he's the best driver of this current era? Admittedly the car does make a big difference, but it's hard to downplay what he's done too much.

I have no idea how he'd fare against other drivers, I'd be inclined to say Schumacher is better but part of that is probably rose tinted in my head.

posted on 4/12/20

comment by CurrentlyStuckIntheUK (U11181)
posted 3 hours, 6 minutes ago
I've always wondered why many British people hate Hamilton.
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No idea. It really is bizarre.

posted on 4/12/20

comment by TBaggerin (U11806)
posted 17 minutes ago
I really don't like Hamilton but surely he's the best driver of this current era? Admittedly the car does make a big difference, but it's hard to downplay what he's done too much.

I have no idea how he'd fare against other drivers, I'd be inclined to say Schumacher is better but part of that is probably rose tinted in my head.
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Why don't you like Hamilton?

posted on 4/12/20

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyStuckIntheUK (U11181)
posted 3 hours, 6 minutes ago
I've always wondered why many British people hate Hamilton.
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No idea. It really is bizarre.

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something about being an arrogant twit, tax exile, or whenever he loses a race its the teams fault and his childish tirades on the radio, but when he wins its all down to him.

just a few reasons there to consume

posted on 4/12/20

I'd be a tax exile too. I've regularly heard him praise the team when he's won.
Of course, he is black.

posted on 4/12/20

whenever he loses a race its the teams fault and his childish tirades on the radio, but when he wins its all down to him.

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That's just not true.

posted on 4/12/20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxBs2xZfW6M

good example

posted on 4/12/20

I'm not saying he doesn't moan. They all do. But he most certainly credits and thanks the team for his wins

https://youtu.be/Xq4MsQoDO9w

posted on 5/12/20

Just about every recent British F1 driver has been a tax exile. Weirdly, the other ones didn't regularly get slammed for this by large numbers of people who otherwise don't embrace left-wing values like aggressive taxation of the rich.

posted on 5/12/20

Fastest in practice......its like scoring a worldie in training. It means almost feckall

posted on 5/12/20

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
Just about every recent British F1 driver has been a tax exile. Weirdly, the other ones didn't regularly get slammed for this by large numbers of people who otherwise don't embrace left-wing values like aggressive taxation of the rich.
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The tax exile thing is just one in a long line.

Everyone should stop eating meat, I'm doing my bit for co2 by buying a 100k electric car, music is my passion and first love, he crashed in to me, F1 needs more black people (forgetting Ron Dennis sponsored him from 13 and he has never sponsored anyone), etc, etc

comment by Greg- (U1192)

posted on 5/12/20

comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 14 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
Anyone who thinks Mercedes don't have the best car is deluded.
Anyone who doesn't think Hamilton is the best driver is deluded.
Don't take my word for it, read
what the professionals say.
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No doubt the car is not only the best,but the most dominant car in F1 history.Hamilton's record before joining Mercedes was 1 championship in 7 years.

So for me the car is the bigger factor for his next 6 titles.
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What was mercedes record before Hamilton?

posted on 5/12/20

Russell barely managed to fit in the car as he's a tall lad.

Hamilton is an excellent driver, he is uber consistent and always wins when it matters. However, so much of his success is down to his far superior car. When was the last time his car broke down or his team gave Bottas preferential treatment or got there tactics/setup wrong?

posted on 5/12/20

comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 18 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by Divoc==8k (U22339)
posted 8 seconds ago
George Russell is tipped to be a future world champion.

Ferrari had the fastest car in 2018 & 2019

If you build the best car you want the best driver



Genuine question.... do you watch F1 and understand it or is it just 20 cars driving around a track for you?
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Ferrari didn't have the fastest car in 2018 and 2019,they had a car on certain circuits that could match or be slightly better than the Mercs.
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The Ferrari that season was better on the faster tracks if I remember rightly, so every 3rd race or so, they were better than Mercs. You also had a good red bull team back then too.

posted on 5/12/20

comment by Shaun M - Bye bye, to the football league! (U9955)
posted 11 minutes ago
Russell barely managed to fit in the car as he's a tall lad.

Hamilton is an excellent driver, he is uber consistent and always wins when it matters. However, so much of his success is down to his far superior car. When was the last time his car broke down or his team gave Bottas preferential treatment or got there tactics/setup wrong?

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👍

posted on 5/12/20

comment by Shaun M - Bye bye, to the football league! (U9955)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 18 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by Divoc==8k (U22339)
posted 8 seconds ago
George Russell is tipped to be a future world champion.

Ferrari had the fastest car in 2018 & 2019

If you build the best car you want the best driver



Genuine question.... do you watch F1 and understand it or is it just 20 cars driving around a track for you?
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Ferrari didn't have the fastest car in 2018 and 2019,they had a car on certain circuits that could match or be slightly better than the Mercs.
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The Ferrari that season was better on the faster tracks if I remember rightly, so every 3rd race or so, they were better than Mercs. You also had a good red bull team back then too.
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The Ferrari was better over a single lap on the high speed tracks. The car was too hard on tyres in race trim though, meaning that on the rare occasions they did deliver on race day, it was through defensive drives and the gap to second place was never more than 1.5 seconds. Impossible to compete on anything like a regular basis over a season in those circumstances.

posted on 5/12/20

It is because Ferrari worked around the rules and had you could say power they shouldn't have had. That is why when they banned this, Ferrari became a backmarker.

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