Haven't bet on a match in a good while. It just isn't something I really think about and isn't one of those things that ever got a hold of me fortunately. Biggest win was around £500 a few years ago when practically every top side from the big leagues won. Wonder how often that happens?
Also I find that some people seem to have the golden touch when it comes to putting a bet together and I'm just not one of them. My sisters fella is as is a guy at work. Seems to be if they fancy winning a couple of hundred then they're more than able of doing so.
comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
Put in £5 a week and rarely down in a season. Think it's been once or twice. Last two seasons I've been up thousands. Started this season excellent winning a couple of grand but haven't picked up a win in about four weeks. Had three wins and a draw tonight. Bloody Cheltenham dominated the game but couldn't score.
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Impressive, what type of bets do you tend to put on?
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I just do £5 accumulators, picking four teams. If I win say £100, I bank £50 and bet with the other £50, perhaps reducing it to two or three teams. I also decrease the risk, in terms of odds, unlike my first bet where I'll always put a couple of teams in who are good odds but I think will win.
comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
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comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 33 seconds ago
Stopped doing horses as I couldn't control myself like I can betting on football. It's more of a quick buzz with horses and feels like an addiction brewing.
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U ever go to the dogs at Dunmore? Remember my da taking me a few times in the 80s. Would drop my ma and her mum off at her sisters and me and him would no round the corner for a couple of races
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Not sure. My grandfather took me to the dogs a load of times, early 90s but no idea where it was. May have been there. Been a few times to Drumbo which is a great night out.
I do similar to toor, put on a few accumulators and generally tend to be up by the end of the season.
My brother does it a lot. He’s got no kids, a lot of disposable income and he’s also invested very well elsewhere. He averages making about a thousand a month from it and has done for about five years now.
Also I find that some people seem to have the golden touch when it comes to putting a bet together
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You have to be careful of people who just tell you about the wins, though. Or sugarcoat it so they sound as if they are up but in reality they are in the mire.
(not saying your sisters bloke or the bloke at your work are, just seen it many times).
Yeah a gambler will never talk about his losses until he’s in rehab
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 9 minutes ago
The simple answer is yes, it’s a mugs game and the road to ruin if you get in too deep.
Not at the level you’re talking about - £100 a year loss is less than a tenner a month and totally negligible. But it doesn’t matter whether you’re betting a fiver on a line on the footy or high rolling in a casino, you can never beat the book. These facks aren’t in it for charity.
Close pal of mine has lost about half a million quid to gambling in the last four or five years. He always played down how much he spent, but his executive accounts with various bookmakers got him (and therefore me, numerous times) gratis front row seats at the snooker, ringside at Haye Bellew, tickets for PL games and the Darts. He’s in GA now, and nearly lost everything. It’s not just him, my uncles were wide boys, only time they left the pubs was to walk over the road to the bookies, always skint because everything they made went into the bookies pocket. Gambling is big business because because bookies want you to bet because every punter, in the end, is a mug punter.
If you want to turn your money into more money buy bricks & mortar, bitcoin and Rolex steel sports watches.
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Trading Rolex’ is something my dad does well out of and I’m considering getting involved when the time is right, are you into it Ace?
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 7 minutes ago
A "fun" thing to do if you are a light better is to start with a fiver, find a good bet odds-on. Win that then put the lot on another "safe" bet. Win that, and repeat. They reckon in about 15 bets you can be on a fortune.
Done it a few times, but never past 9 and £385. Lost that on PSG to score in-play bet where they had spent the first 20 minutes conceding then non stop attacking. Looked a certainty. Ended in a 1-0 loss. Fuming.
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Used to do that when I worked a boring office job at a hospital. Started off in the morning with a fiver on some random Malaysian team and by the end of the week had built up to a couple of hundred. Did it for months and only once lifted anything. Keep setting myself a £500 target and always fell short.
A few months before that I opened my first betting account. Got a free bet, think it was £10. Anyway won and it wouldn't let me take it out. Think it was £30 or something. Went on live chat complaining and they were waffling about turning it over three times which I couldn't get my head around. Won my next bet, getting it up to around £90. Went on again and they still wouldn't let me take it out. Got it up to around £370 and same story. Argued with them and couldn't understand how I couldn't have turned it over three times. Anyway got it over a grand and it let me take it out. Couldn't believe my luck.
I remember the day I first watched a mate put £5 in a FOBT. Since then, mainly on footies, I’ve lost nearly everything. Debts run into the thousands over about 10 years. Only recently got help for it. On medication for depression ATM.
The things I was doing for a bet are scary, and in general, completely out of character - but over time, it became my character.
Used to do that when I worked a boring office job at a hospital.
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Yes, night shift always used to be a killer for me. Go from tennis, to NBA, to Ice Hockey etc.
Yeah the simple trick is to not chase what you have lost. When you begin doing that, you've started on a very dangerous path.
Early 20s I used to have a load of drinks and then fancy a bit of roulette. Thought I had it all sussed. Bet on first 12 and second 12, 66% chance. If you lose, double your stake. Can't go wrong. However what people never consider is it often happens where a sequence occurs for a period of time and whilst it will even out again eventually, that one period of time can completely clean you out.
Gladly I've never chased money I've lost and never had any issues with gambling but I've seen in destroy some people and take over their whole lives.
Saw a guy win tens of thousands and the following week he was asking me to lend him a grand. These people can't help themselves. No matter what they win, it goes back in again, chasing a bigger win, a bigger thrill.
I drink way, way too much. I smoke and it's only my age and having moved and lost the dealers I used to know that has curtailed my illegal drug intake.
Gambling is the one vice that has never attracted me, probably lucky really as I'd have no money if I were.
Only tend to gamble little amounts. Couple of quid or a fiver here or there. Keeps sport interesting and the amounts are negligible.
Mate of mine’s missus doesn’t like him doing it, so he’s been asking me to bet for him recently from my william hill account, and transferring the money across to my bank account. Getting a bit heavy with it recently though, so I might tell him I’m not comfortable with it, particularly as I’m friends with his wife. Spent £100 on the weekend and he lost it, then £50 last night and lost that too.
He probably gambles about £400 a month.
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It's a mugs game. Hands down.
I worked in the HQ of one of the biggest bookies in the land for 5+ years and saw several colleagues who liked a punt go broke in that short period of time. One guy got banged up for exploiting the odds compiling trading software, which gave him a slight edge over everyone else. He pocketed a couple of 100k before being caught out, then had to sell his house to repay a debt to get a more lenient sentence.
I was mostly a poker player at the time and I managed my bankroll well, however working in that environment definitely encourages you to take a punt here and there. The worst example i recall was a buddy of mine - renowned for his Horse racing knowledge - gave me a 60/1 tip with a few minutes notice, on which i bunged on a fiver. The thing actually won. I then used that money to go onto roulette and by the end of the working day was sitting on £1300. Stupidly, i carried on the roulette later that evening at home and lost everything
That episode taught me not to gamble to that extent ever again.
The only bet i have had in 2020 was couple of weeks back. £100 on Everton to beat Arsenal and the Liverpool v palace (7-0) game to be over 2.5, as a multiplier. Gave me a tidy £316 profit
I only did that bet so that i can antagonize my muggy Arsenal supporting friends on our group chat. Double win haha
I bet the amount of the ticket price I would have paid to watch a specific game.
For example Liverpool v Spurs. I would be fine betting the amount I would have paid for a ticket.
No surprises I have hardly bet on a Spurs game this season. Jose saving me ££££s
Sorry guys I thought I was £100 down for the year. I checked my sky bet and I’m only £62 down. Barely anything. Mugs game yes, but as long as you don’t become addicted and limit yourself to what you want to spend, it’s a bit of fun on a weekend when I’m pottering around the house. Gives me something to keep an eye on with accumulators. If I’m out and about, I don’t usually bet, so it’s literally when I’m bored and fancy putting a cheeky £5 on an Acca.
I'm up £1076.55, in the past five months. Thought it was more than that, although I always seem to do very well at the beginning of seasons and then struggle to get a win towards the end. I think it's the odds. I go with teams in the beginning at good odds who I think are going to do well. After they sustain that the bookies wise up to it. Then I'm left taking bigger risks.
I could go and on about the dangers of betting per say but without doubt the poker/slot machines and having a market that is now 24/7 is criminal.
Easily the worse addiction that is out there.
comment by Igor we may not have much to trump about recen... (U22200)
posted 4 seconds ago
I could go and on about the dangers of betting per say but without doubt the poker/slot machines and having a market that is now 24/7 is criminal.
Easily the worse addiction that is out there.
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Criminal? How so? There is a law which forces the machines to be set at 70% payout.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Igor we may not have much to trump about recen... (U22200)
posted 4 seconds ago
I could go and on about the dangers of betting per say but without doubt the poker/slot machines and having a market that is now 24/7 is criminal.
Easily the worse addiction that is out there.
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Criminal? How so? There is a law which forces the machines to be set at 70% payout.
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Oh Toor, how innocent can one be.
And just to add a PS, shy were right to dumpLe Tisseier, Nicholas and Thompson by selling their souls to the devil that is Paddy Power.
Consider the 70% payout thing, I never understood people who would spent hours sitting at those things trying to win the money back they've lost. The bloody things have 70% written on them ffs. You sit long enough, say put a grand in, you're coming out with around £700.
The only time you can win and it's by sheer luck is by timing when you play and how long you play for.
Some people actually think there's a skill to these games, trying to time it to stop on repeat, hi lo etc when it's all geared up to the 70%. It doesn't matter when you press it, the game has already predetermined what will happen.
comment by Igor we may not have much to trump about recen... (U22200)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Igor we may not have much to trump about recen... (U22200)
posted 4 seconds ago
I could go and on about the dangers of betting per say but without doubt the poker/slot machines and having a market that is now 24/7 is criminal.
Easily the worse addiction that is out there.
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Criminal? How so? There is a law which forces the machines to be set at 70% payout.
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Oh Toor, how innocent can one be.
And just to add a PS, shy were right to dumpLe Tisseier, Nicholas and Thompson by selling their souls to the devil that is Paddy Power.
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You're saying companies break the law and somehow fix their machines so they're not set at 70%? Seems a bit far fetched to me, when they can't lose anyhow.
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posted on 29/12/20
Haven't bet on a match in a good while. It just isn't something I really think about and isn't one of those things that ever got a hold of me fortunately. Biggest win was around £500 a few years ago when practically every top side from the big leagues won. Wonder how often that happens?
Also I find that some people seem to have the golden touch when it comes to putting a bet together and I'm just not one of them. My sisters fella is as is a guy at work. Seems to be if they fancy winning a couple of hundred then they're more than able of doing so.
posted on 29/12/20
comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
Put in £5 a week and rarely down in a season. Think it's been once or twice. Last two seasons I've been up thousands. Started this season excellent winning a couple of grand but haven't picked up a win in about four weeks. Had three wins and a draw tonight. Bloody Cheltenham dominated the game but couldn't score.
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Impressive, what type of bets do you tend to put on?
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I just do £5 accumulators, picking four teams. If I win say £100, I bank £50 and bet with the other £50, perhaps reducing it to two or three teams. I also decrease the risk, in terms of odds, unlike my first bet where I'll always put a couple of teams in who are good odds but I think will win.
posted on 29/12/20
comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 33 seconds ago
Stopped doing horses as I couldn't control myself like I can betting on football. It's more of a quick buzz with horses and feels like an addiction brewing.
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U ever go to the dogs at Dunmore? Remember my da taking me a few times in the 80s. Would drop my ma and her mum off at her sisters and me and him would no round the corner for a couple of races
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Not sure. My grandfather took me to the dogs a load of times, early 90s but no idea where it was. May have been there. Been a few times to Drumbo which is a great night out.
posted on 29/12/20
I do similar to toor, put on a few accumulators and generally tend to be up by the end of the season.
My brother does it a lot. He’s got no kids, a lot of disposable income and he’s also invested very well elsewhere. He averages making about a thousand a month from it and has done for about five years now.
posted on 29/12/20
Also I find that some people seem to have the golden touch when it comes to putting a bet together
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You have to be careful of people who just tell you about the wins, though. Or sugarcoat it so they sound as if they are up but in reality they are in the mire.
(not saying your sisters bloke or the bloke at your work are, just seen it many times).
posted on 29/12/20
Yeah a gambler will never talk about his losses until he’s in rehab
posted on 29/12/20
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 9 minutes ago
The simple answer is yes, it’s a mugs game and the road to ruin if you get in too deep.
Not at the level you’re talking about - £100 a year loss is less than a tenner a month and totally negligible. But it doesn’t matter whether you’re betting a fiver on a line on the footy or high rolling in a casino, you can never beat the book. These facks aren’t in it for charity.
Close pal of mine has lost about half a million quid to gambling in the last four or five years. He always played down how much he spent, but his executive accounts with various bookmakers got him (and therefore me, numerous times) gratis front row seats at the snooker, ringside at Haye Bellew, tickets for PL games and the Darts. He’s in GA now, and nearly lost everything. It’s not just him, my uncles were wide boys, only time they left the pubs was to walk over the road to the bookies, always skint because everything they made went into the bookies pocket. Gambling is big business because because bookies want you to bet because every punter, in the end, is a mug punter.
If you want to turn your money into more money buy bricks & mortar, bitcoin and Rolex steel sports watches.
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Trading Rolex’ is something my dad does well out of and I’m considering getting involved when the time is right, are you into it Ace?
posted on 29/12/20
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 7 minutes ago
A "fun" thing to do if you are a light better is to start with a fiver, find a good bet odds-on. Win that then put the lot on another "safe" bet. Win that, and repeat. They reckon in about 15 bets you can be on a fortune.
Done it a few times, but never past 9 and £385. Lost that on PSG to score in-play bet where they had spent the first 20 minutes conceding then non stop attacking. Looked a certainty. Ended in a 1-0 loss. Fuming.
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Used to do that when I worked a boring office job at a hospital. Started off in the morning with a fiver on some random Malaysian team and by the end of the week had built up to a couple of hundred. Did it for months and only once lifted anything. Keep setting myself a £500 target and always fell short.
A few months before that I opened my first betting account. Got a free bet, think it was £10. Anyway won and it wouldn't let me take it out. Think it was £30 or something. Went on live chat complaining and they were waffling about turning it over three times which I couldn't get my head around. Won my next bet, getting it up to around £90. Went on again and they still wouldn't let me take it out. Got it up to around £370 and same story. Argued with them and couldn't understand how I couldn't have turned it over three times. Anyway got it over a grand and it let me take it out. Couldn't believe my luck.
posted on 29/12/20
I remember the day I first watched a mate put £5 in a FOBT. Since then, mainly on footies, I’ve lost nearly everything. Debts run into the thousands over about 10 years. Only recently got help for it. On medication for depression ATM.
The things I was doing for a bet are scary, and in general, completely out of character - but over time, it became my character.
posted on 29/12/20
Used to do that when I worked a boring office job at a hospital.
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Yes, night shift always used to be a killer for me. Go from tennis, to NBA, to Ice Hockey etc.
posted on 29/12/20
Yeah the simple trick is to not chase what you have lost. When you begin doing that, you've started on a very dangerous path.
Early 20s I used to have a load of drinks and then fancy a bit of roulette. Thought I had it all sussed. Bet on first 12 and second 12, 66% chance. If you lose, double your stake. Can't go wrong. However what people never consider is it often happens where a sequence occurs for a period of time and whilst it will even out again eventually, that one period of time can completely clean you out.
Gladly I've never chased money I've lost and never had any issues with gambling but I've seen in destroy some people and take over their whole lives.
Saw a guy win tens of thousands and the following week he was asking me to lend him a grand. These people can't help themselves. No matter what they win, it goes back in again, chasing a bigger win, a bigger thrill.
posted on 29/12/20
I drink way, way too much. I smoke and it's only my age and having moved and lost the dealers I used to know that has curtailed my illegal drug intake.
Gambling is the one vice that has never attracted me, probably lucky really as I'd have no money if I were.
posted on 29/12/20
Only tend to gamble little amounts. Couple of quid or a fiver here or there. Keeps sport interesting and the amounts are negligible.
Mate of mine’s missus doesn’t like him doing it, so he’s been asking me to bet for him recently from my william hill account, and transferring the money across to my bank account. Getting a bit heavy with it recently though, so I might tell him I’m not comfortable with it, particularly as I’m friends with his wife. Spent £100 on the weekend and he lost it, then £50 last night and lost that too.
He probably gambles about £400 a month.
posted on 29/12/20
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posted on 29/12/20
It's a mugs game. Hands down.
I worked in the HQ of one of the biggest bookies in the land for 5+ years and saw several colleagues who liked a punt go broke in that short period of time. One guy got banged up for exploiting the odds compiling trading software, which gave him a slight edge over everyone else. He pocketed a couple of 100k before being caught out, then had to sell his house to repay a debt to get a more lenient sentence.
I was mostly a poker player at the time and I managed my bankroll well, however working in that environment definitely encourages you to take a punt here and there. The worst example i recall was a buddy of mine - renowned for his Horse racing knowledge - gave me a 60/1 tip with a few minutes notice, on which i bunged on a fiver. The thing actually won. I then used that money to go onto roulette and by the end of the working day was sitting on £1300. Stupidly, i carried on the roulette later that evening at home and lost everything
That episode taught me not to gamble to that extent ever again.
The only bet i have had in 2020 was couple of weeks back. £100 on Everton to beat Arsenal and the Liverpool v palace (7-0) game to be over 2.5, as a multiplier. Gave me a tidy £316 profit
I only did that bet so that i can antagonize my muggy Arsenal supporting friends on our group chat. Double win haha
posted on 29/12/20
I bet the amount of the ticket price I would have paid to watch a specific game.
For example Liverpool v Spurs. I would be fine betting the amount I would have paid for a ticket.
No surprises I have hardly bet on a Spurs game this season. Jose saving me ££££s
posted on 29/12/20
Betting is for losers
posted on 29/12/20
Sorry guys I thought I was £100 down for the year. I checked my sky bet and I’m only £62 down. Barely anything. Mugs game yes, but as long as you don’t become addicted and limit yourself to what you want to spend, it’s a bit of fun on a weekend when I’m pottering around the house. Gives me something to keep an eye on with accumulators. If I’m out and about, I don’t usually bet, so it’s literally when I’m bored and fancy putting a cheeky £5 on an Acca.
posted on 29/12/20
I'm up £1076.55, in the past five months. Thought it was more than that, although I always seem to do very well at the beginning of seasons and then struggle to get a win towards the end. I think it's the odds. I go with teams in the beginning at good odds who I think are going to do well. After they sustain that the bookies wise up to it. Then I'm left taking bigger risks.
posted on 29/12/20
I could go and on about the dangers of betting per say but without doubt the poker/slot machines and having a market that is now 24/7 is criminal.
Easily the worse addiction that is out there.
posted on 29/12/20
comment by Igor we may not have much to trump about recen... (U22200)
posted 4 seconds ago
I could go and on about the dangers of betting per say but without doubt the poker/slot machines and having a market that is now 24/7 is criminal.
Easily the worse addiction that is out there.
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Criminal? How so? There is a law which forces the machines to be set at 70% payout.
posted on 29/12/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Igor we may not have much to trump about recen... (U22200)
posted 4 seconds ago
I could go and on about the dangers of betting per say but without doubt the poker/slot machines and having a market that is now 24/7 is criminal.
Easily the worse addiction that is out there.
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Criminal? How so? There is a law which forces the machines to be set at 70% payout.
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Oh Toor, how innocent can one be.
And just to add a PS, shy were right to dumpLe Tisseier, Nicholas and Thompson by selling their souls to the devil that is Paddy Power.
posted on 29/12/20
Sky*
posted on 29/12/20
Consider the 70% payout thing, I never understood people who would spent hours sitting at those things trying to win the money back they've lost. The bloody things have 70% written on them ffs. You sit long enough, say put a grand in, you're coming out with around £700.
The only time you can win and it's by sheer luck is by timing when you play and how long you play for.
Some people actually think there's a skill to these games, trying to time it to stop on repeat, hi lo etc when it's all geared up to the 70%. It doesn't matter when you press it, the game has already predetermined what will happen.
posted on 29/12/20
comment by Igor we may not have much to trump about recen... (U22200)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Igor we may not have much to trump about recen... (U22200)
posted 4 seconds ago
I could go and on about the dangers of betting per say but without doubt the poker/slot machines and having a market that is now 24/7 is criminal.
Easily the worse addiction that is out there.
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Criminal? How so? There is a law which forces the machines to be set at 70% payout.
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Oh Toor, how innocent can one be.
And just to add a PS, shy were right to dumpLe Tisseier, Nicholas and Thompson by selling their souls to the devil that is Paddy Power.
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You're saying companies break the law and somehow fix their machines so they're not set at 70%? Seems a bit far fetched to me, when they can't lose anyhow.
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