There's no evidence he knew her age, even if he did I wouldn't call it rape... don't really want to defend Benzema but she wasn't a victim in the situation, she was a streetwise young girl who used the attention to profit nicely out of it
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 8 hours, 49 minutes ago
"It's funny how statutes decide if you're a statutory rapist". Pearls of wisdom there.
He did rape her. She was unable to consent to sechs in the context of prostitution. This really isn't complicated.
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loool....you're really reaching very hard there, mate.
Oh, and it's actually complicated. Certainly far more completed that the self-righteous, simplistic drivel you're crafting here.
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 8 hours, 46 minutes ago
There's no evidence he knew her age, even if he did I wouldn't call it rape... don't really want to defend Benzema but she wasn't a victim in the situation, she was a streetwise young girl who used the attention to profit nicely out of it
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A kid who's into prostitution by 16 is a victim. It's just categorical. Yes she made a lot of money, but she had none. The second she could she went into other ears, which should be telling.
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta OUT!!! (U7482)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 8 hours, 49 minutes ago
"It's funny how statutes decide if you're a statutory rapist". Pearls of wisdom there.
He did rape her. She was unable to consent to sechs in the context of prostitution. This really isn't complicated.
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loool....you're really reaching very hard there, mate.
Oh, and it's actually complicated. Certainly far more completed that the self-righteous, simplistic drivel you're crafting here.
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It's only complicated if you don't understand how consent works.
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 8 hours, 46 minutes ago
There's no evidence he knew her age, even if he did I wouldn't call it rape... don't really want to defend Benzema but she wasn't a victim in the situation, she was a streetwise young girl who used the attention to profit nicely out of it
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A kid who's into prostitution by 16 is a victim. It's just categorical. Yes she made a lot of money, but she had none. The second she could she went into other ears, which should be telling.
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How can you know that? You've already falsely accused him of rape and said he knew she was underage when the courts ruled he didn't. Just because she did it for money doesn't make her a victim, maybe she wanted money and chose to do it of her own free will? maybe despite her age she's very mature and calculated and not the helpless victim you want her to be? she used the fallout to make a name for herself when real victims of rape and trafficking suffer from PTSD and that kind of thing. And I'm not knocking her for it either, according to google her net worth is £5m
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 8 hours, 46 minutes ago
There's no evidence he knew her age, even if he did I wouldn't call it rape... don't really want to defend Benzema but she wasn't a victim in the situation, she was a streetwise young girl who used the attention to profit nicely out of it
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A kid who's into prostitution by 16 is a victim. It's just categorical. Yes she made a lot of money, but she had none. The second she could she went into other ears, which should be telling.
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How can you know that? You've already falsely accused him of rape and said he knew she was underage when the courts ruled he didn't. Just because she did it for money doesn't make her a victim, maybe she wanted money and chose to do it of her own free will? maybe despite her age she's very mature and calculated and not the helpless victim you want her to be? she used the fallout to make a name for herself when real victims of rape and trafficking suffer from PTSD and that kind of thing. And I'm not knocking her for it either, according to google her net worth is £5m
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Well he said it's not complicated, so he knows that for sure. Every 16-year-old prostitute has no agency or capacity to knowingly sell her body for profit since we know all 16-year-olds really have the mind of toddlers, and everyone who sleeps with her regardless of their personal knowledge or her and regardless of whether she misled them about her age is obviously just a rapist and child molester. It's always simple and can never be complicated.
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 8 hours, 46 minutes ago
There's no evidence he knew her age, even if he did I wouldn't call it rape... don't really want to defend Benzema but she wasn't a victim in the situation, she was a streetwise young girl who used the attention to profit nicely out of it
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A kid who's into prostitution by 16 is a victim. It's just categorical. Yes she made a lot of money, but she had none. The second she could she went into other ears, which should be telling.
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How can you know that? You've already falsely accused him of rape and said he knew she was underage when the courts ruled he didn't. Just because she did it for money doesn't make her a victim, maybe she wanted money and chose to do it of her own free will? maybe despite her age she's very mature and calculated and not the helpless victim you want her to be? she used the fallout to make a name for herself when real victims of rape and trafficking suffer from PTSD and that kind of thing. And I'm not knocking her for it either, according to google her net worth is £5m
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I did not say he knew. I said he had a responsibility to make sure.
Man, it really isn't worth going into how consent works with children if you can't understand how a kid might think they want something but nonetheless cannot consent to it. Child prostitution is wrong, even if you think she wanted it. She made the most of her situation afterwards and that's what you judge her on? Christ above society has a long way to go.
I never said child prostitution is ok, but she's quoted as saying she lied about her age and chose to get into prostitution for the money. She's doing a job that requires her to be 18 so there's no responsibility on him to make sure, it was her choice to lie and you want to blame Benzema for that.
And I'm not judging her for making money out of it, I applaud her for it. Talking about how society has a long way to go The only person here with a backwards attitude is you because you can't comprehend that a young 16 year old girl could be ambitious, money hungry, independent, a go getter, want to express her sexuality, wants to get paid for sexxs or take her clothes off on instagram on her own free will
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
I never said child prostitution is ok, but she's quoted as saying she lied about her age and chose to get into prostitution for the money. She's doing a job that requires her to be 18 so there's no responsibility on him to make sure, it was her choice to lie and you want to blame Benzema for that.
And I'm not judging her for making money out of it, I applaud her for it. Talking about how society has a long way to goThe only person here with a backwards attitude is you because you can't comprehend that a young 16 year old girl could be ambitious, money hungry, independent, a go getter, want to express her sexuality, wants to get paid for sexxs or take her clothes off on instagram on her own free will
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You don't think he has a responsibility to make sure he doesn't stick his diiick in a kid? Do bars not have a responsibility to ID young-looking people, either?
A girl can be all those things, but there's a reason age limits are put on prostitution. I'm not even against prostitution as a concept, I just know crap when I see it. This was a girl who got into it at 16 as an immigrant into France at the age of 10 with her single mum and brother. She knows how to get hers in life, it's true. Again though, notice how quickly she pivoted to fashion when it became viable. She slept with Benzema when she had just turned 16, ffs.
The reason we have ages of consent for different things is because power dynamics can be so harmful. Like, two ten year olds fooling around with each other in a "what does this button do" manner is not the same as a ten year old with a sixteen year old. Likewise, a sixteen year old prostitute being paid for by a pre-eminent rich footballer involves power dynamics that makes it much worse.
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posted on 2/1/21
There's no evidence he knew her age, even if he did I wouldn't call it rape... don't really want to defend Benzema but she wasn't a victim in the situation, she was a streetwise young girl who used the attention to profit nicely out of it
posted on 2/1/21
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 8 hours, 49 minutes ago
"It's funny how statutes decide if you're a statutory rapist". Pearls of wisdom there.
He did rape her. She was unable to consent to sechs in the context of prostitution. This really isn't complicated.
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loool....you're really reaching very hard there, mate.
Oh, and it's actually complicated. Certainly far more completed that the self-righteous, simplistic drivel you're crafting here.
posted on 2/1/21
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 8 hours, 46 minutes ago
There's no evidence he knew her age, even if he did I wouldn't call it rape... don't really want to defend Benzema but she wasn't a victim in the situation, she was a streetwise young girl who used the attention to profit nicely out of it
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A kid who's into prostitution by 16 is a victim. It's just categorical. Yes she made a lot of money, but she had none. The second she could she went into other ears, which should be telling.
posted on 2/1/21
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta OUT!!! (U7482)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 8 hours, 49 minutes ago
"It's funny how statutes decide if you're a statutory rapist". Pearls of wisdom there.
He did rape her. She was unable to consent to sechs in the context of prostitution. This really isn't complicated.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
loool....you're really reaching very hard there, mate.
Oh, and it's actually complicated. Certainly far more completed that the self-righteous, simplistic drivel you're crafting here.
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It's only complicated if you don't understand how consent works.
posted on 2/1/21
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 8 hours, 46 minutes ago
There's no evidence he knew her age, even if he did I wouldn't call it rape... don't really want to defend Benzema but she wasn't a victim in the situation, she was a streetwise young girl who used the attention to profit nicely out of it
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A kid who's into prostitution by 16 is a victim. It's just categorical. Yes she made a lot of money, but she had none. The second she could she went into other ears, which should be telling.
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How can you know that? You've already falsely accused him of rape and said he knew she was underage when the courts ruled he didn't. Just because she did it for money doesn't make her a victim, maybe she wanted money and chose to do it of her own free will? maybe despite her age she's very mature and calculated and not the helpless victim you want her to be? she used the fallout to make a name for herself when real victims of rape and trafficking suffer from PTSD and that kind of thing. And I'm not knocking her for it either, according to google her net worth is £5m
posted on 2/1/21
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 8 hours, 46 minutes ago
There's no evidence he knew her age, even if he did I wouldn't call it rape... don't really want to defend Benzema but she wasn't a victim in the situation, she was a streetwise young girl who used the attention to profit nicely out of it
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A kid who's into prostitution by 16 is a victim. It's just categorical. Yes she made a lot of money, but she had none. The second she could she went into other ears, which should be telling.
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How can you know that? You've already falsely accused him of rape and said he knew she was underage when the courts ruled he didn't. Just because she did it for money doesn't make her a victim, maybe she wanted money and chose to do it of her own free will? maybe despite her age she's very mature and calculated and not the helpless victim you want her to be? she used the fallout to make a name for herself when real victims of rape and trafficking suffer from PTSD and that kind of thing. And I'm not knocking her for it either, according to google her net worth is £5m
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Well he said it's not complicated, so he knows that for sure. Every 16-year-old prostitute has no agency or capacity to knowingly sell her body for profit since we know all 16-year-olds really have the mind of toddlers, and everyone who sleeps with her regardless of their personal knowledge or her and regardless of whether she misled them about her age is obviously just a rapist and child molester. It's always simple and can never be complicated.
posted on 2/1/21
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 8 hours, 46 minutes ago
There's no evidence he knew her age, even if he did I wouldn't call it rape... don't really want to defend Benzema but she wasn't a victim in the situation, she was a streetwise young girl who used the attention to profit nicely out of it
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A kid who's into prostitution by 16 is a victim. It's just categorical. Yes she made a lot of money, but she had none. The second she could she went into other ears, which should be telling.
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How can you know that? You've already falsely accused him of rape and said he knew she was underage when the courts ruled he didn't. Just because she did it for money doesn't make her a victim, maybe she wanted money and chose to do it of her own free will? maybe despite her age she's very mature and calculated and not the helpless victim you want her to be? she used the fallout to make a name for herself when real victims of rape and trafficking suffer from PTSD and that kind of thing. And I'm not knocking her for it either, according to google her net worth is £5m
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I did not say he knew. I said he had a responsibility to make sure.
Man, it really isn't worth going into how consent works with children if you can't understand how a kid might think they want something but nonetheless cannot consent to it. Child prostitution is wrong, even if you think she wanted it. She made the most of her situation afterwards and that's what you judge her on? Christ above society has a long way to go.
posted on 2/1/21
I never said child prostitution is ok, but she's quoted as saying she lied about her age and chose to get into prostitution for the money. She's doing a job that requires her to be 18 so there's no responsibility on him to make sure, it was her choice to lie and you want to blame Benzema for that.
And I'm not judging her for making money out of it, I applaud her for it. Talking about how society has a long way to go The only person here with a backwards attitude is you because you can't comprehend that a young 16 year old girl could be ambitious, money hungry, independent, a go getter, want to express her sexuality, wants to get paid for sexxs or take her clothes off on instagram on her own free will
posted on 2/1/21
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
I never said child prostitution is ok, but she's quoted as saying she lied about her age and chose to get into prostitution for the money. She's doing a job that requires her to be 18 so there's no responsibility on him to make sure, it was her choice to lie and you want to blame Benzema for that.
And I'm not judging her for making money out of it, I applaud her for it. Talking about how society has a long way to goThe only person here with a backwards attitude is you because you can't comprehend that a young 16 year old girl could be ambitious, money hungry, independent, a go getter, want to express her sexuality, wants to get paid for sexxs or take her clothes off on instagram on her own free will
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You don't think he has a responsibility to make sure he doesn't stick his diiick in a kid? Do bars not have a responsibility to ID young-looking people, either?
A girl can be all those things, but there's a reason age limits are put on prostitution. I'm not even against prostitution as a concept, I just know crap when I see it. This was a girl who got into it at 16 as an immigrant into France at the age of 10 with her single mum and brother. She knows how to get hers in life, it's true. Again though, notice how quickly she pivoted to fashion when it became viable. She slept with Benzema when she had just turned 16, ffs.
The reason we have ages of consent for different things is because power dynamics can be so harmful. Like, two ten year olds fooling around with each other in a "what does this button do" manner is not the same as a ten year old with a sixteen year old. Likewise, a sixteen year old prostitute being paid for by a pre-eminent rich footballer involves power dynamics that makes it much worse.
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