A free pass? They can't do their job at home...so they are following the same guidelines as any profession that can't wfh.
Why are you singing out football?
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Seeing the headline figures from the UK it's mad how it's almost become normalised to talk about hundreds of people dying per day, yet there's footballers travelling all over the country and beyond to play sport. It's all about money init. To be fair, the amount they put into the economy through taxes it might actually be worth it. I'm no economist so I'll leave that to someone better informed to confirm or deny, but that is an argument for football going on I guess.
On the flipside there's the moral issues. It's little wonder that we're seeing players flout the social distancing rules, they are very much being treated as more important than the rest of us. We're seeing the same with politicians who view the general population as cattle.
I dunno. Personally, I'm kind of glad it's still on but think it probably shouldn't be.
Null and void if we’re not gunna win the league, cancel and use points if we’re top
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 40 minutes ago
A free pass? They can't do their job at home...so they are following the same guidelines as any profession that can't wfh.
Why are you singing out football?
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Is football essential? No. So just like others, sit at home.
What is the problem with football continuing?
The regular testing means it isn’t contributing to the spread at all, and there have been no recorded deaths (or hospitalisations) for people in the game, has there?
because they can afford the testing
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Whether football should be cancelled or allowed to continue should be based on real evidence, and we won't have any real evidence until we know the result between Liverpool v Man U at Anfield. Then we can make an informed decision.
Let the players vote on it. But at the moment it is one of the few pleasures that we have left. Lockdown without football as well? Not a nice thought but their health is more important than our viewing pleasure.
Please wait though until we beat Burnley and go top.
Null and void if United’s odds of winning title at 5/1 or lower
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 13 minutes ago
Let the players vote on it. But at the moment it is one of the few pleasures that we have left. Lockdown without football as well? Not a nice thought but their health is more important than our viewing pleasure.
Please wait though until we beat Burnley and go top.
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Will them stop playing football also stop them catching covid?
Genuinely think it's good for people's mental health having this much sport on. Gives everyone something to do and takes your mind off all the doom and gloom.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 31 minutes ago
What is the problem with football continuing?
The regular testing means it isn’t contributing to the spread at all, and there have been no recorded deaths (or hospitalisations) for people in the game, has there?
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Players themselves may not have been hospitalised but you can’t assume that they aren’t transmitting the disease. How else would you explain other players in the camp catching it? They then go home to their families who then may have support bubbles or jobs that see them work away from home. The higher the transmission rate the more likely a vulnerable person is to infection. The numbers over the past 2 weeks in football shot up massively even with regular testing
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 1 hour, 24 minutes ago
Seeing the headline figures from the UK it's mad how it's almost become normalised to talk about hundreds of people dying per day, yet there's footballers travelling all over the country and beyond to play sport. It's all about money init. To be fair, the amount they put into the economy through taxes it might actually be worth it. I'm no economist so I'll leave that to someone better informed to confirm or deny, but that is an argument for football going on I guess.
On the flipside there's the moral issues. It's little wonder that we're seeing players flout the social distancing rules, they are very much being treated as more important than the rest of us. We're seeing the same with politicians who view the general population as cattle.
I dunno. Personally, I'm kind of glad it's still on but think it probably shouldn't be.
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This is where I am on it
comment by Brian Spearmint (U22339)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 31 minutes ago
What is the problem with football continuing?
The regular testing means it isn’t contributing to the spread at all, and there have been no recorded deaths (or hospitalisations) for people in the game, has there?
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Players themselves may not have been hospitalised but you can’t assume that they aren’t transmitting the disease. How else would you explain other players in the camp catching it? They then go home to their families who then may have support bubbles or jobs that see them work away from home. The higher the transmission rate the more likely a vulnerable person is to infection. The numbers over the past 2 weeks in football shot up massively even with regular testing
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‘Massively’
12 positive tests in the last round.
The point about spreading is that they’re being tested every week, so probably one of the few sections of society who know very early if they have it and therefore can isolate.
Why would you shut down a massive industry like football with so little evidence of it causing any issues?
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Brian Spearmint (U22339)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 31 minutes ago
What is the problem with football continuing?
The regular testing means it isn’t contributing to the spread at all, and there have been no recorded deaths (or hospitalisations) for people in the game, has there?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Players themselves may not have been hospitalised but you can’t assume that they aren’t transmitting the disease. How else would you explain other players in the camp catching it? They then go home to their families who then may have support bubbles or jobs that see them work away from home. The higher the transmission rate the more likely a vulnerable person is to infection. The numbers over the past 2 weeks in football shot up massively even with regular testing
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‘Massively’
12 positive tests in the last round.
The point about spreading is that they’re being tested every week, so probably one of the few sections of society who know very early if they have it and therefore can isolate.
Why would you shut down a massive industry like football with so little evidence of it causing any issues?
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28 between 28-31 Dec
12 between 1-3 Jan
That’s 40 positive cases in a week, ignoring the players & staff members who may have to self isolate from being in close proximity. Average of 2 players/staff per team in the league.
That is a massive jump in relation to the numbers at the restart of last season.
I’m not calling for the season to be cancelled, I’m merely expressing my concern with the rising numbers. What would be the harm in calling off the season for a month, letting the positive cases recover & players have a break/“pre season” in a contained bubble away from their families?
Footballers are idiots, as proven by the likes of the Spurs players and Lanzini.
The more they’re kept with their clubs the less likely to spread it they are, give them a month off from the game and unless you keep them all locked up they’re likely to spread it even more in their free time.
Brian, it’s a big jump expressed as a percentage but those numbers are tiny and show control.
I just don’t see what your point is?
The harm of suspending the season is hurting the many thousands of people who work in the sector.
What’s the benefit?
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 16 minutes ago
Brian, it’s a big jump expressed as a percentage but those numbers are tiny and show control.
I just don’t see what your point is?
The harm of suspending the season is hurting the many thousands of people who work in the sector.
What’s the benefit?
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It shows less control than previous weeks if the percentage is rising. I guess it comes down to the cost of a persons health. If continuing the season as it is causing players, staff, families their bubbles & colleagues to be infected, how many do you allow until it becomes unacceptable?
comment by Brian Spearmint (U22339)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 16 minutes ago
Brian, it’s a big jump expressed as a percentage but those numbers are tiny and show control.
I just don’t see what your point is?
The harm of suspending the season is hurting the many thousands of people who work in the sector.
What’s the benefit?
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It shows less control than previous weeks if the percentage is rising. I guess it comes down to the cost of a persons health. If continuing the season as it is causing players, staff, families their bubbles & colleagues to be infected, how many do you allow until it becomes unacceptable?
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But is it continuing the season that’s causing that? I don’t think it is.
If anything, continuing the season (and therefore testing) is helping prevent further spread.
I haven’t seen a single reason for stopping it tbh.
Continuing the season means players and staff will continue to travel the country and risk spreading a disease that they may have picked up through chance or negligence.
Testing helps but is no use after a person has contracted the virus and passed it on to others who won’t potentially test positive days after e.g Moeen Ali
You’re just ignoring what I’ve said now, so I’m out.
comment by Mike. (U1170)
posted 51 minutes ago
Footballers are idiots, as proven by the likes of the Spurs players and Lanzini.
The more they’re kept with their clubs the less likely to spread it they are, give them a month off from the game and unless you keep them all locked up they’re likely to spread it even more in their free time.
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Agree with this sentiment, the players that are catching Covid now would be going out and doing stupid stuff anyway but they may not be getting tested regularly if not playing? So it could go unchecked for longer.
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posted on 5/1/21
A free pass? They can't do their job at home...so they are following the same guidelines as any profession that can't wfh.
Why are you singing out football?
posted on 5/1/21
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 5/1/21
Seeing the headline figures from the UK it's mad how it's almost become normalised to talk about hundreds of people dying per day, yet there's footballers travelling all over the country and beyond to play sport. It's all about money init. To be fair, the amount they put into the economy through taxes it might actually be worth it. I'm no economist so I'll leave that to someone better informed to confirm or deny, but that is an argument for football going on I guess.
On the flipside there's the moral issues. It's little wonder that we're seeing players flout the social distancing rules, they are very much being treated as more important than the rest of us. We're seeing the same with politicians who view the general population as cattle.
I dunno. Personally, I'm kind of glad it's still on but think it probably shouldn't be.
posted on 5/1/21
Null and void if we’re not gunna win the league, cancel and use points if we’re top
posted on 5/1/21
Null and void
posted on 5/1/21
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 40 minutes ago
A free pass? They can't do their job at home...so they are following the same guidelines as any profession that can't wfh.
Why are you singing out football?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is football essential? No. So just like others, sit at home.
posted on 5/1/21
What is the problem with football continuing?
The regular testing means it isn’t contributing to the spread at all, and there have been no recorded deaths (or hospitalisations) for people in the game, has there?
posted on 5/1/21
because they can afford the testing
posted on 5/1/21
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 5/1/21
Whether football should be cancelled or allowed to continue should be based on real evidence, and we won't have any real evidence until we know the result between Liverpool v Man U at Anfield. Then we can make an informed decision.
posted on 5/1/21
Let the players vote on it. But at the moment it is one of the few pleasures that we have left. Lockdown without football as well? Not a nice thought but their health is more important than our viewing pleasure.
Please wait though until we beat Burnley and go top.
posted on 5/1/21
Null and void if United’s odds of winning title at 5/1 or lower
posted on 5/1/21
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 13 minutes ago
Let the players vote on it. But at the moment it is one of the few pleasures that we have left. Lockdown without football as well? Not a nice thought but their health is more important than our viewing pleasure.
Please wait though until we beat Burnley and go top.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Will them stop playing football also stop them catching covid?
posted on 5/1/21
Genuinely think it's good for people's mental health having this much sport on. Gives everyone something to do and takes your mind off all the doom and gloom.
posted on 5/1/21
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 31 minutes ago
What is the problem with football continuing?
The regular testing means it isn’t contributing to the spread at all, and there have been no recorded deaths (or hospitalisations) for people in the game, has there?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Players themselves may not have been hospitalised but you can’t assume that they aren’t transmitting the disease. How else would you explain other players in the camp catching it? They then go home to their families who then may have support bubbles or jobs that see them work away from home. The higher the transmission rate the more likely a vulnerable person is to infection. The numbers over the past 2 weeks in football shot up massively even with regular testing
posted on 5/1/21
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 1 hour, 24 minutes ago
Seeing the headline figures from the UK it's mad how it's almost become normalised to talk about hundreds of people dying per day, yet there's footballers travelling all over the country and beyond to play sport. It's all about money init. To be fair, the amount they put into the economy through taxes it might actually be worth it. I'm no economist so I'll leave that to someone better informed to confirm or deny, but that is an argument for football going on I guess.
On the flipside there's the moral issues. It's little wonder that we're seeing players flout the social distancing rules, they are very much being treated as more important than the rest of us. We're seeing the same with politicians who view the general population as cattle.
I dunno. Personally, I'm kind of glad it's still on but think it probably shouldn't be.
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This is where I am on it
posted on 5/1/21
comment by Brian Spearmint (U22339)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 31 minutes ago
What is the problem with football continuing?
The regular testing means it isn’t contributing to the spread at all, and there have been no recorded deaths (or hospitalisations) for people in the game, has there?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Players themselves may not have been hospitalised but you can’t assume that they aren’t transmitting the disease. How else would you explain other players in the camp catching it? They then go home to their families who then may have support bubbles or jobs that see them work away from home. The higher the transmission rate the more likely a vulnerable person is to infection. The numbers over the past 2 weeks in football shot up massively even with regular testing
----------------------------------------------------------------------
‘Massively’
12 positive tests in the last round.
The point about spreading is that they’re being tested every week, so probably one of the few sections of society who know very early if they have it and therefore can isolate.
Why would you shut down a massive industry like football with so little evidence of it causing any issues?
posted on 5/1/21
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Brian Spearmint (U22339)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 31 minutes ago
What is the problem with football continuing?
The regular testing means it isn’t contributing to the spread at all, and there have been no recorded deaths (or hospitalisations) for people in the game, has there?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Players themselves may not have been hospitalised but you can’t assume that they aren’t transmitting the disease. How else would you explain other players in the camp catching it? They then go home to their families who then may have support bubbles or jobs that see them work away from home. The higher the transmission rate the more likely a vulnerable person is to infection. The numbers over the past 2 weeks in football shot up massively even with regular testing
----------------------------------------------------------------------
‘Massively’
12 positive tests in the last round.
The point about spreading is that they’re being tested every week, so probably one of the few sections of society who know very early if they have it and therefore can isolate.
Why would you shut down a massive industry like football with so little evidence of it causing any issues?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
28 between 28-31 Dec
12 between 1-3 Jan
That’s 40 positive cases in a week, ignoring the players & staff members who may have to self isolate from being in close proximity. Average of 2 players/staff per team in the league.
That is a massive jump in relation to the numbers at the restart of last season.
I’m not calling for the season to be cancelled, I’m merely expressing my concern with the rising numbers. What would be the harm in calling off the season for a month, letting the positive cases recover & players have a break/“pre season” in a contained bubble away from their families?
posted on 5/1/21
Footballers are idiots, as proven by the likes of the Spurs players and Lanzini.
The more they’re kept with their clubs the less likely to spread it they are, give them a month off from the game and unless you keep them all locked up they’re likely to spread it even more in their free time.
posted on 5/1/21
Brian, it’s a big jump expressed as a percentage but those numbers are tiny and show control.
I just don’t see what your point is?
The harm of suspending the season is hurting the many thousands of people who work in the sector.
What’s the benefit?
posted on 5/1/21
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 16 minutes ago
Brian, it’s a big jump expressed as a percentage but those numbers are tiny and show control.
I just don’t see what your point is?
The harm of suspending the season is hurting the many thousands of people who work in the sector.
What’s the benefit?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It shows less control than previous weeks if the percentage is rising. I guess it comes down to the cost of a persons health. If continuing the season as it is causing players, staff, families their bubbles & colleagues to be infected, how many do you allow until it becomes unacceptable?
posted on 5/1/21
comment by Brian Spearmint (U22339)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 16 minutes ago
Brian, it’s a big jump expressed as a percentage but those numbers are tiny and show control.
I just don’t see what your point is?
The harm of suspending the season is hurting the many thousands of people who work in the sector.
What’s the benefit?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It shows less control than previous weeks if the percentage is rising. I guess it comes down to the cost of a persons health. If continuing the season as it is causing players, staff, families their bubbles & colleagues to be infected, how many do you allow until it becomes unacceptable?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But is it continuing the season that’s causing that? I don’t think it is.
If anything, continuing the season (and therefore testing) is helping prevent further spread.
I haven’t seen a single reason for stopping it tbh.
posted on 5/1/21
Continuing the season means players and staff will continue to travel the country and risk spreading a disease that they may have picked up through chance or negligence.
Testing helps but is no use after a person has contracted the virus and passed it on to others who won’t potentially test positive days after e.g Moeen Ali
posted on 5/1/21
You’re just ignoring what I’ve said now, so I’m out.
posted on 5/1/21
comment by Mike. (U1170)
posted 51 minutes ago
Footballers are idiots, as proven by the likes of the Spurs players and Lanzini.
The more they’re kept with their clubs the less likely to spread it they are, give them a month off from the game and unless you keep them all locked up they’re likely to spread it even more in their free time.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree with this sentiment, the players that are catching Covid now would be going out and doing stupid stuff anyway but they may not be getting tested regularly if not playing? So it could go unchecked for longer.
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