Disappointed but not too gutted. City turned up and played very well. Got to give them credit. When they play like that they are too good for most teams.
He may as well change tact now. We've been rubbish in the big games this season and the policy of sitting back and waiting for counter attacks to develop isn't working. So maybe a more proactive, pleasing on the eye approach might be worth trying? It can't possibly see us pick up many less points in the bigger games, that's for sure
comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 19 minutes ago
He may as well change tact now. We've been rubbish in the big games this season and the policy of sitting back and waiting for counter attacks to develop isn't working. So maybe a more proactive, pleasing on the eye approach might be worth trying? It can't possibly see us pick up many less points in the bigger games, that's for sure
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Until we lose one of them by 4 goals and all hell breaks loose.
City were pretty defensive in a lot they did last night. It wasn't attack after attack we faced. They are very solid at the back and they keep the ball for fun though.
I'm not too downbeat. Got to beat Watford n Burnley now and then go to Anfield and see how we get on.
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 19 minutes ago
He may as well change tact now. We've been rubbish in the big games this season and the policy of sitting back and waiting for counter attacks to develop isn't working. So maybe a more proactive, pleasing on the eye approach might be worth trying? It can't possibly see us pick up many less points in the bigger games, that's for sure
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Until we lose one of them by 4 goals and all hell breaks loose.
City were pretty defensive in a lot they did last night. It wasn't attack after attack we faced. They are very solid at the back and they keep the ball for fun though.
I'm not too downbeat. Got to beat Watford n Burnley now and then go to Anfield and see how we get on.
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Better to lose by 4 goals now and again if it means you actually also win the odd game. I don't think it takes a time traveller to tell us how we'll get on at Anfield if we just sit back and wait for opportunities to knock the ball to an offside Martial or Rashford for 90 mins. As I pretty as it is ineffective
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posted 44 seconds ago
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 19 minutes ago
He may as well change tact now. We've been rubbish in the big games this season and the policy of sitting back and waiting for counter attacks to develop isn't working. So maybe a more proactive, pleasing on the eye approach might be worth trying? It can't possibly see us pick up many less points in the bigger games, that's for sure
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Until we lose one of them by 4 goals and all hell breaks loose.
City were pretty defensive in a lot they did last night. It wasn't attack after attack we faced. They are very solid at the back and they keep the ball for fun though.
I'm not too downbeat. Got to beat Watford n Burnley now and then go to Anfield and see how we get on.
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Better to lose by 4 goals now and again if it means you actually also win the odd game. I don't think it takes a time traveller to tell us how we'll get on at Anfield if we just sit back and wait for opportunities to knock the ball to an offside Martial or Rashford for 90 mins. As I pretty as it is ineffective
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ffs... someone doesnt remember the spurs game
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posted 2 minutes ago
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 19 minutes ago
He may as well change tact now. We've been rubbish in the big games this season and the policy of sitting back and waiting for counter attacks to develop isn't working. So maybe a more proactive, pleasing on the eye approach might be worth trying? It can't possibly see us pick up many less points in the bigger games, that's for sure
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Until we lose one of them by 4 goals and all hell breaks loose.
City were pretty defensive in a lot they did last night. It wasn't attack after attack we faced. They are very solid at the back and they keep the ball for fun though.
I'm not too downbeat. Got to beat Watford n Burnley now and then go to Anfield and see how we get on.
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Better to lose by 4 goals now and again if it means you actually also win the odd game. I don't think it takes a time traveller to tell us how we'll get on at Anfield if we just sit back and wait for opportunities to knock the ball to an offside Martial or Rashford for 90 mins. As I pretty as it is ineffective
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We beat City 3 times last season didn't we? Chelsea twice too. We've beaten PSG away twice under Ole and countless other big teams.
City would beat most teams in the world playing like they did last night. Their passing was back to their very best. Its very difficult to live with.
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posted 44 seconds ago
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 19 minutes ago
He may as well change tact now. We've been rubbish in the big games this season and the policy of sitting back and waiting for counter attacks to develop isn't working. So maybe a more proactive, pleasing on the eye approach might be worth trying? It can't possibly see us pick up many less points in the bigger games, that's for sure
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Until we lose one of them by 4 goals and all hell breaks loose.
City were pretty defensive in a lot they did last night. It wasn't attack after attack we faced. They are very solid at the back and they keep the ball for fun though.
I'm not too downbeat. Got to beat Watford n Burnley now and then go to Anfield and see how we get on.
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Better to lose by 4 goals now and again if it means you actually also win the odd game. I don't think it takes a time traveller to tell us how we'll get on at Anfield if we just sit back and wait for opportunities to knock the ball to an offside Martial or Rashford for 90 mins. As I pretty as it is ineffective
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ffs... someone doesnt remember the spurs game
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I very much do. I also remember that we were not remotely up to speed and had made Palace and Brighton look like peak Barcelona in the preceding games.
What are you not getting? I said I'd accept the odd hammering if it meant we had a go and actually won some big games, rather than this passive nonsense that isn't delivering anyway. Do you really think we'd pick up any less results in these games by being more proactive? I don't
He may as well change tact now. We've been rubbish in the big games this season and the policy of sitting back and waiting for counter attacks to develop isn't working.
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We’ve been rubbish in loads of games this season regardless of the approach. That’s the bigger problem.
Is this a wum article, I can't quite tell.
For those who are happy with how we are setting up in each and every big game, how few points and how many bad results does it take before you think that it might be an idea to try to be more proactive, rather than bore the hell out of everyone, whilst not delivering results anyway? A ball park figure will suffice
Henderson doesn’t strike me as any better than Romero was. He is young though so could turn out to be a great keeper.
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Henderson doesn’t strike me as any better than Romero was. He is young though so could turn out to be a great keeper.
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He's done some things well and other things less so. Still quite a small sample size though, so hard to draw too many conclusions. Don't think he did a lot wrong last night
comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 13 minutes ago
For those who are happy with how we are setting up in each and every big game, how few points and how many bad results does it take before you think that it might be an idea to try to be more proactive, rather than bore the hell out of everyone, whilst not delivering results anyway? A ball park figure will suffice
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I don’t think you need to be happy with the set up to realise it’s not necessarily the set up that it the problem.
I don’t like it, it’s too much like Mourinho ball for my liking, but it does suit our players best for these games. They’re just not performing.
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posted 12 minutes ago
comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 13 minutes ago
For those who are happy with how we are setting up in each and every big game, how few points and how many bad results does it take before you think that it might be an idea to try to be more proactive, rather than bore the hell out of everyone, whilst not delivering results anyway? A ball park figure will suffice
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I don’t think you need to be happy with the set up to realise it’s not necessarily the set up that it the problem.
I don’t like it, it’s too much like Mourinho ball for my liking, but it does suit our players best for these games. They’re just not performing.
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I get where you're coming from. My main problem is that I don't think we can trust this defence to hold out, particularly from set pieces. Is having more players in defensive areas actually protecting the defence or just inviting more pressure and actually magnifying the issues we have there?
We’ve tended to defend well in our box when we set up like this, in fairness. It suits Maguire and Lindelof. The set piece issues will remain regardless. I know it’s not ideal to invite so much pressure either, it’s why I don’t like it. But with the strengths of the team is served us best in these games when we set up like this. We’re just not performing as well as we have done previously. Rashford and Martial’s form hasn’t helped in this regard.
Also, in particular reference to City, they strangle teams with the ball and force you back. They had Liverpool penned in their own half for a lot of the game earlier in the season, for example. It’s facking frustrating playing them as they do this to you, even if you don’t really want to.
Apart from Liverpool, the rest of the top half we shouldn’t need to play quite so deep. None of those sides are good enough to do that to us.
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
We’ve tended to defend well in our box when we set up like this, in fairness. It suits Maguire and Lindelof. The set piece issues will remain regardless. I know it’s not ideal to invite so much pressure either, it’s why I don’t like it. But with the strengths of the team is served us best in these games when we set up like this. We’re just not performing as well as we have done previously. Rashford and Martial’s form hasn’t helped in this regard.
Also, in particular reference to City, they strangle teams with the ball and force you back. They had Liverpool penned in their own half for a lot of the game earlier in the season, for example. It’s facking frustrating playing them as they do this to you, even if you don’t really want to.
Apart from Liverpool, the rest of the top half we shouldn’t need to play quite so deep. None of those sides are good enough to do that to us.
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Yeah I think that's all fair points. I'm by no means suggesting the manager should go or any of that nonsense. Just not sure about the defensiveness at times. But as you say, particularly against City, sometimes it's forced upon us
comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
I don't think it takes a time traveller to tell us how we'll get on at Anfield if we just sit back and wait for opportunities to knock the ball to an offside Martial or Rashford for 90 mins. As unpretty as it is ineffective
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Isn't that the kind of setup Liverpool have struggled against so much recently - or don't they generally find it harder when teams sit deep against them than when they're able to press opponents high up the pitch or exploit the space behind their defenders?
And by the way...how many set piece goals does Maguire get per season? I only really watch highlights, but some of his heading recently has looked really awful.
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
And by the way...how many set piece goals does Maguire get per season? I only really watch highlights, but some of his heading recently has looked really awful.
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set pieces are a major issue, at both ends of the pitch...i think i read last year that we conceded 7(ish) more goals than liverpool in the league, but the same from open play...it could be we concede more set pieces near our box than them, but we do seem to have a chronic inability to defend them well.
oh, and the answer to your question is "not many, and not enough".
I get that, I’m not a fan either. I’d rather we played a different way as well. But my point is more that the approach isn’t necessarily the problem, where results are concerned.
The issues we have collectively, the form of some players and the lack of quality in others means we’ll see lots of performances, and results, that don’t meet the expectations of Manchester United, regardless of how we set up in these games.
That’s the most concerning thing. And our position in the table shouldn’t deflect from it.
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
And by the way...how many set piece goals does Maguire get per season? I only really watch highlights, but some of his heading recently has looked really awful.
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set pieces are a major issue, at both ends of the pitch...i think i read last year that we conceded 7(ish) more goals than liverpool in the league, but the same from open play...it could be we concede more set pieces near our box than them, but we do seem to have a chronic inability to defend them well.
oh, and the answer to your question is "not many, and not enough".
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Cheers, Don. He had a couple of decent opportunities last night, but his timing just looked totally off, and I think I've seen similar from him a few times recently.
I can't imagine it's generally like that, because it would seem odd for someone who's probably been a focal point for set pieces since he was about four.
It is generally like that. Not sure whether it was for his other clubs, but it’s been a common problem for United and England.
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
Disappointed but not too gutted. City turned up and played very well. Got to give them credit. When they play like that they are too good for most teams.
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posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
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posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
I don't think it takes a time traveller to tell us how we'll get on at Anfield if we just sit back and wait for opportunities to knock the ball to an offside Martial or Rashford for 90 mins. As unpretty as it is ineffective
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Isn't that the kind of setup Liverpool have struggled against so much recently - or don't they generally find it harder when teams sit deep against them than when they're able to press opponents high up the pitch or exploit the space behind their defenders?
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That's what they have generally struggled against but, in some ways, I also see an opportunity for us to get at their back four next week as well so it needs to be a balanced approach in that game IMO.
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posted on 7/1/21
Disappointed but not too gutted. City turned up and played very well. Got to give them credit. When they play like that they are too good for most teams.
posted on 7/1/21
He may as well change tact now. We've been rubbish in the big games this season and the policy of sitting back and waiting for counter attacks to develop isn't working. So maybe a more proactive, pleasing on the eye approach might be worth trying? It can't possibly see us pick up many less points in the bigger games, that's for sure
posted on 7/1/21
comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 19 minutes ago
He may as well change tact now. We've been rubbish in the big games this season and the policy of sitting back and waiting for counter attacks to develop isn't working. So maybe a more proactive, pleasing on the eye approach might be worth trying? It can't possibly see us pick up many less points in the bigger games, that's for sure
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Until we lose one of them by 4 goals and all hell breaks loose.
City were pretty defensive in a lot they did last night. It wasn't attack after attack we faced. They are very solid at the back and they keep the ball for fun though.
I'm not too downbeat. Got to beat Watford n Burnley now and then go to Anfield and see how we get on.
posted on 7/1/21
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 19 minutes ago
He may as well change tact now. We've been rubbish in the big games this season and the policy of sitting back and waiting for counter attacks to develop isn't working. So maybe a more proactive, pleasing on the eye approach might be worth trying? It can't possibly see us pick up many less points in the bigger games, that's for sure
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Until we lose one of them by 4 goals and all hell breaks loose.
City were pretty defensive in a lot they did last night. It wasn't attack after attack we faced. They are very solid at the back and they keep the ball for fun though.
I'm not too downbeat. Got to beat Watford n Burnley now and then go to Anfield and see how we get on.
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Better to lose by 4 goals now and again if it means you actually also win the odd game. I don't think it takes a time traveller to tell us how we'll get on at Anfield if we just sit back and wait for opportunities to knock the ball to an offside Martial or Rashford for 90 mins. As I pretty as it is ineffective
posted on 7/1/21
*unpretty
posted on 7/1/21
comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 19 minutes ago
He may as well change tact now. We've been rubbish in the big games this season and the policy of sitting back and waiting for counter attacks to develop isn't working. So maybe a more proactive, pleasing on the eye approach might be worth trying? It can't possibly see us pick up many less points in the bigger games, that's for sure
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Until we lose one of them by 4 goals and all hell breaks loose.
City were pretty defensive in a lot they did last night. It wasn't attack after attack we faced. They are very solid at the back and they keep the ball for fun though.
I'm not too downbeat. Got to beat Watford n Burnley now and then go to Anfield and see how we get on.
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Better to lose by 4 goals now and again if it means you actually also win the odd game. I don't think it takes a time traveller to tell us how we'll get on at Anfield if we just sit back and wait for opportunities to knock the ball to an offside Martial or Rashford for 90 mins. As I pretty as it is ineffective
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ffs... someone doesnt remember the spurs game
posted on 7/1/21
comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 19 minutes ago
He may as well change tact now. We've been rubbish in the big games this season and the policy of sitting back and waiting for counter attacks to develop isn't working. So maybe a more proactive, pleasing on the eye approach might be worth trying? It can't possibly see us pick up many less points in the bigger games, that's for sure
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Until we lose one of them by 4 goals and all hell breaks loose.
City were pretty defensive in a lot they did last night. It wasn't attack after attack we faced. They are very solid at the back and they keep the ball for fun though.
I'm not too downbeat. Got to beat Watford n Burnley now and then go to Anfield and see how we get on.
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Better to lose by 4 goals now and again if it means you actually also win the odd game. I don't think it takes a time traveller to tell us how we'll get on at Anfield if we just sit back and wait for opportunities to knock the ball to an offside Martial or Rashford for 90 mins. As I pretty as it is ineffective
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We beat City 3 times last season didn't we? Chelsea twice too. We've beaten PSG away twice under Ole and countless other big teams.
City would beat most teams in the world playing like they did last night. Their passing was back to their very best. Its very difficult to live with.
posted on 7/1/21
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
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comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 19 minutes ago
He may as well change tact now. We've been rubbish in the big games this season and the policy of sitting back and waiting for counter attacks to develop isn't working. So maybe a more proactive, pleasing on the eye approach might be worth trying? It can't possibly see us pick up many less points in the bigger games, that's for sure
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Until we lose one of them by 4 goals and all hell breaks loose.
City were pretty defensive in a lot they did last night. It wasn't attack after attack we faced. They are very solid at the back and they keep the ball for fun though.
I'm not too downbeat. Got to beat Watford n Burnley now and then go to Anfield and see how we get on.
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Better to lose by 4 goals now and again if it means you actually also win the odd game. I don't think it takes a time traveller to tell us how we'll get on at Anfield if we just sit back and wait for opportunities to knock the ball to an offside Martial or Rashford for 90 mins. As I pretty as it is ineffective
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ffs... someone doesnt remember the spurs game
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I very much do. I also remember that we were not remotely up to speed and had made Palace and Brighton look like peak Barcelona in the preceding games.
What are you not getting? I said I'd accept the odd hammering if it meant we had a go and actually won some big games, rather than this passive nonsense that isn't delivering anyway. Do you really think we'd pick up any less results in these games by being more proactive? I don't
posted on 7/1/21
He may as well change tact now. We've been rubbish in the big games this season and the policy of sitting back and waiting for counter attacks to develop isn't working.
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We’ve been rubbish in loads of games this season regardless of the approach. That’s the bigger problem.
posted on 7/1/21
Is this a wum article, I can't quite tell.
posted on 7/1/21
For those who are happy with how we are setting up in each and every big game, how few points and how many bad results does it take before you think that it might be an idea to try to be more proactive, rather than bore the hell out of everyone, whilst not delivering results anyway? A ball park figure will suffice
posted on 7/1/21
Henderson doesn’t strike me as any better than Romero was. He is young though so could turn out to be a great keeper.
posted on 7/1/21
comment by Ole-dirty-baztard - You want ole in, ole out, in, out, in, out, shake it all about. Do the ole Koke (U19119)
posted 5 minutes ago
Henderson doesn’t strike me as any better than Romero was. He is young though so could turn out to be a great keeper.
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He's done some things well and other things less so. Still quite a small sample size though, so hard to draw too many conclusions. Don't think he did a lot wrong last night
posted on 7/1/21
comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 13 minutes ago
For those who are happy with how we are setting up in each and every big game, how few points and how many bad results does it take before you think that it might be an idea to try to be more proactive, rather than bore the hell out of everyone, whilst not delivering results anyway? A ball park figure will suffice
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I don’t think you need to be happy with the set up to realise it’s not necessarily the set up that it the problem.
I don’t like it, it’s too much like Mourinho ball for my liking, but it does suit our players best for these games. They’re just not performing.
posted on 7/1/21
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 13 minutes ago
For those who are happy with how we are setting up in each and every big game, how few points and how many bad results does it take before you think that it might be an idea to try to be more proactive, rather than bore the hell out of everyone, whilst not delivering results anyway? A ball park figure will suffice
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I don’t think you need to be happy with the set up to realise it’s not necessarily the set up that it the problem.
I don’t like it, it’s too much like Mourinho ball for my liking, but it does suit our players best for these games. They’re just not performing.
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I get where you're coming from. My main problem is that I don't think we can trust this defence to hold out, particularly from set pieces. Is having more players in defensive areas actually protecting the defence or just inviting more pressure and actually magnifying the issues we have there?
posted on 7/1/21
We’ve tended to defend well in our box when we set up like this, in fairness. It suits Maguire and Lindelof. The set piece issues will remain regardless. I know it’s not ideal to invite so much pressure either, it’s why I don’t like it. But with the strengths of the team is served us best in these games when we set up like this. We’re just not performing as well as we have done previously. Rashford and Martial’s form hasn’t helped in this regard.
Also, in particular reference to City, they strangle teams with the ball and force you back. They had Liverpool penned in their own half for a lot of the game earlier in the season, for example. It’s facking frustrating playing them as they do this to you, even if you don’t really want to.
Apart from Liverpool, the rest of the top half we shouldn’t need to play quite so deep. None of those sides are good enough to do that to us.
posted on 7/1/21
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
We’ve tended to defend well in our box when we set up like this, in fairness. It suits Maguire and Lindelof. The set piece issues will remain regardless. I know it’s not ideal to invite so much pressure either, it’s why I don’t like it. But with the strengths of the team is served us best in these games when we set up like this. We’re just not performing as well as we have done previously. Rashford and Martial’s form hasn’t helped in this regard.
Also, in particular reference to City, they strangle teams with the ball and force you back. They had Liverpool penned in their own half for a lot of the game earlier in the season, for example. It’s facking frustrating playing them as they do this to you, even if you don’t really want to.
Apart from Liverpool, the rest of the top half we shouldn’t need to play quite so deep. None of those sides are good enough to do that to us.
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Yeah I think that's all fair points. I'm by no means suggesting the manager should go or any of that nonsense. Just not sure about the defensiveness at times. But as you say, particularly against City, sometimes it's forced upon us
posted on 7/1/21
comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
I don't think it takes a time traveller to tell us how we'll get on at Anfield if we just sit back and wait for opportunities to knock the ball to an offside Martial or Rashford for 90 mins. As unpretty as it is ineffective
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Isn't that the kind of setup Liverpool have struggled against so much recently - or don't they generally find it harder when teams sit deep against them than when they're able to press opponents high up the pitch or exploit the space behind their defenders?
posted on 7/1/21
And by the way...how many set piece goals does Maguire get per season? I only really watch highlights, but some of his heading recently has looked really awful.
posted on 7/1/21
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
And by the way...how many set piece goals does Maguire get per season? I only really watch highlights, but some of his heading recently has looked really awful.
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set pieces are a major issue, at both ends of the pitch...i think i read last year that we conceded 7(ish) more goals than liverpool in the league, but the same from open play...it could be we concede more set pieces near our box than them, but we do seem to have a chronic inability to defend them well.
oh, and the answer to your question is "not many, and not enough".
posted on 7/1/21
I get that, I’m not a fan either. I’d rather we played a different way as well. But my point is more that the approach isn’t necessarily the problem, where results are concerned.
The issues we have collectively, the form of some players and the lack of quality in others means we’ll see lots of performances, and results, that don’t meet the expectations of Manchester United, regardless of how we set up in these games.
That’s the most concerning thing. And our position in the table shouldn’t deflect from it.
posted on 7/1/21
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
And by the way...how many set piece goals does Maguire get per season? I only really watch highlights, but some of his heading recently has looked really awful.
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set pieces are a major issue, at both ends of the pitch...i think i read last year that we conceded 7(ish) more goals than liverpool in the league, but the same from open play...it could be we concede more set pieces near our box than them, but we do seem to have a chronic inability to defend them well.
oh, and the answer to your question is "not many, and not enough".
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Cheers, Don. He had a couple of decent opportunities last night, but his timing just looked totally off, and I think I've seen similar from him a few times recently.
I can't imagine it's generally like that, because it would seem odd for someone who's probably been a focal point for set pieces since he was about four.
posted on 7/1/21
It is generally like that. Not sure whether it was for his other clubs, but it’s been a common problem for United and England.
posted on 7/1/21
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
Disappointed but not too gutted. City turned up and played very well. Got to give them credit. When they play like that they are too good for most teams.
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as we discovered last week...
posted on 7/1/21
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
I don't think it takes a time traveller to tell us how we'll get on at Anfield if we just sit back and wait for opportunities to knock the ball to an offside Martial or Rashford for 90 mins. As unpretty as it is ineffective
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Isn't that the kind of setup Liverpool have struggled against so much recently - or don't they generally find it harder when teams sit deep against them than when they're able to press opponents high up the pitch or exploit the space behind their defenders?
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That's what they have generally struggled against but, in some ways, I also see an opportunity for us to get at their back four next week as well so it needs to be a balanced approach in that game IMO.
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