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comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 57 seconds ago
Of course the lockdown worked on the initial virus. Now virus boy has got sneaky and can get you more easily. That's the bottom line - even if everyone did as asked the wee bu99er decided to retaliate. And it might mutate again to be even more infectious such that we have to close house vents and not even walk past someone.
All we can do is reduce the occurrences and hope for the best until vaccine hopefully works or we find an effective treatment. The theory is, I believe, it tries to mutate to increase that infectiousness but in doing so reduces in seriousness. Virus evolution 101?
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Not necessarily. It depends how it mutated. The UK variant has 17 small mutations (I think) but the main mutation that the UK variant has seen to make it more infectious is in the spike protein, which is what attaches it to the host cell and therefore wouldn't impact seriousness. The variant in South Africa has seen a very similar mutation in the spike protein to make it more infectious, despite being completely separate (I think that variant has only seen 3 mutations).
In terms of seriousness, if a virus kills its host too quickly then it doesn't spread. At the moment, Covid probably has a perfect balance. From listening to experts, the key thing is that not of the mutations we have seen are expected to impact the effectiveness of the vaccine (the mutations were seen before the vaccine was issued, so shouldn't have been influenced by it). This probably tells us though that Covid isnt going to just go away and that vaccinations could become a regular thing.
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*not expected to impact the effectiveness of the vaccine.
Pretty key type there.
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comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 5 minutes ago
Of course the lockdown worked on the initial virus. Now virus boy has got sneaky and can get you more easily. That's the bottom line - even if everyone did as asked the wee bu99er decided to retaliate. And it might mutate again to be even more infectious such that we have to close house vents and not even walk past someone.
All we can do is reduce the occurrences and hope for the best until vaccine hopefully works or we find an effective treatment. The theory is, I believe, it tries to mutate to increase that infectiousness but in doing so reduces in seriousness. Virus evolution 101?
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Is there any actual evidence the virus is more sneaky, or was the sudden rise in South east due to the total lack of restrictions....
Was good news that there was a new effective treatment today hopefully takes pressure off the nhs. Not sure on virus mutations but all viruses mutate anyway. It’s going to come back every year.
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Not sure it's more sneakybut it is more contagious
"The new strain registered a higher reproduction (R) rate – which determines how contagious a disease is based on the number of people infected by each infected person – of 0.7 versus 0.4 for the previous strain, even with the “high levels of social distancing” during the pre-Christmas lockdown."
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Didn’t think there was enough data to prove the increase in R number. There were no high levels of social distancing in London and South east in December after their lock down. To me seemed they were simply all mixing, while we had sensible restrictions in Scotland which largely kept the virus at bay.
But still we are succumbing to the new mutant.
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Crystal Skull from thon Indiana Jones Disa... (U21917)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 5 minutes ago
Of course the lockdown worked on the initial virus. Now virus boy has got sneaky and can get you more easily. That's the bottom line - even if everyone did as asked the wee bu99er decided to retaliate. And it might mutate again to be even more infectious such that we have to close house vents and not even walk past someone.
All we can do is reduce the occurrences and hope for the best until vaccine hopefully works or we find an effective treatment. The theory is, I believe, it tries to mutate to increase that infectiousness but in doing so reduces in seriousness. Virus evolution 101?
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Is there any actual evidence the virus is more sneaky, or was the sudden rise in South east due to the total lack of restrictions....
Was good news that there was a new effective treatment today hopefully takes pressure off the nhs. Not sure on virus mutations but all viruses mutate anyway. It’s going to come back every year.
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Not sure it's more sneakybut it is more contagious
"The new strain registered a higher reproduction (R) rate – which determines how contagious a disease is based on the number of people infected by each infected person – of 0.7 versus 0.4 for the previous strain, even with the “high levels of social distancing” during the pre-Christmas lockdown."
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Didn’t think there was enough data to prove the increase in R number. There were no high levels of social distancing in London and South east in December after their lock down. To me seemed they were simply all mixing, while we had sensible restrictions in Scotland which largely kept the virus at bay.
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I would agree that the more sensible and quicker brought in restrictions in Scotland have helped massively (not too many people espousing the Swedish model now). However, this new variant is spreading quickly in Scotland and the reality is that we need to contain it as best we can until the vaccines become much more widely available.
Given that scenario, and the First Minister's comments, I can see professional sports being classed as non-essential.
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 16 minutes ago
Lockdown, if properly implemented and adhered to, quite evidently works at suppressing the spread of the virus. Remember folk are still flying into the country without needing a negative test, without quarantining, without effective track and tracing.
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It is 'interesting', bmcl.
Could we, should we? I think we over-estimated the impact on the economy of a travel ban? Hindsight an dall that but the travel industry was gonna be fckd anyway.
First wave we didn't have test capacity anyway - I think a total ban would have been seen as draconian? Plenty country borders close but I think even in the likes of Germany it was half hearted and international flights still flew. We relied on quarantine and it wasn't policed or enforced.
We still didn't have mass testing when travel opened again in the late summer. By then, rates were so low I'm not sure testing was effective anyway?
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... I can see professional sports being classed as non-essential.
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So, null & void it is? Fair enough.
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comment by Silver (U6112)
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comment by Tully1 (U20686)
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... I can see professional sports being classed as non-essential.
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So, null & void it is? Fair enough.
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Would bringing in an extended 'winter break' help?
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comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tully1 (U20686)
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... I can see professional sports being classed as non-essential.
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So, null & void it is? Fair enough.
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Would bringing in an extended 'winter break' help?
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Naw - Griff would come back 22 stone and 2 more addictions
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Crystal Skull from thon Indiana Jones Disa... (U21917)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 5 minutes ago
Of course the lockdown worked on the initial virus. Now virus boy has got sneaky and can get you more easily. That's the bottom line - even if everyone did as asked the wee bu99er decided to retaliate. And it might mutate again to be even more infectious such that we have to close house vents and not even walk past someone.
All we can do is reduce the occurrences and hope for the best until vaccine hopefully works or we find an effective treatment. The theory is, I believe, it tries to mutate to increase that infectiousness but in doing so reduces in seriousness. Virus evolution 101?
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Is there any actual evidence the virus is more sneaky, or was the sudden rise in South east due to the total lack of restrictions....
Was good news that there was a new effective treatment today hopefully takes pressure off the nhs. Not sure on virus mutations but all viruses mutate anyway. It’s going to come back every year.
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Not sure it's more sneakybut it is more contagious
"The new strain registered a higher reproduction (R) rate – which determines how contagious a disease is based on the number of people infected by each infected person – of 0.7 versus 0.4 for the previous strain, even with the “high levels of social distancing” during the pre-Christmas lockdown."
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Didn’t think there was enough data to prove the increase in R number. There were no high levels of social distancing in London and South east in December after their lock down. To me seemed they were simply all mixing, while we had sensible restrictions in Scotland which largely kept the virus at bay.
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I would agree that the more sensible and quicker brought in restrictions in Scotland have helped massively (not too many people espousing the Swedish model now). However, this new variant is spreading quickly in Scotland and the reality is that we need to contain it as best we can until the vaccines become much more widely available.
Given that scenario, and the First Minister's comments, I can see professional sports being classed as non-essential.
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Only really need to vaccinate the vulnerable before some given it’s the vulnerable that are in hospital and dieing. Obviously there are a minority that are not vulnerable but that’s the same for any virus of flu, so would surely make sense to go back to the half measures of early December in March when virus numbers will be very low after a long lockdown anyway.
comment by Silver (U6112)
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comment by Tully1 (U20686)
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comment by Silver (U6112)
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comment by Tully1 (U20686)
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... I can see professional sports being classed as non-essential.
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So, null & void it is? Fair enough.
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Would bringing in an extended 'winter break' help?
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Naw - Griff would come back 22 stone and 2 more addictions
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👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
comment by The Crystal Skull from thon Indiana Jones Disaster (U21917)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tully1 (U20686)
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... I can see professional sports being classed as non-essential.
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So, null & void it is? Fair enough.
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I personally couldn't care less there are far more important things to worry about.
I think the loss of revenue from Sky would cause even more hardship for the clubs up here, especially with the loss of revenue and the millions the league lost by ending the season early last season.
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Aye, I see the prem clubs that want the gov money are asking where it is?
Also see Arsenal have taken a £120m loan until May to ease cashflow? There's no fans coming back this year - if you need loans in lieu of cashflow you are almost certainly fckd.
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comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 3 hours, 4 minutes ago
Finish rebuilding Hadrian's Wall for a start.
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You want to build a wall through the middle of Newcastle?
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comment by Zachsda( We don’t walk away or throw sharks) (U1850)
posted 58 minutes ago
My son thinks it’s coming his way again
Him and the company owner have been “managing” jobs in the last week trying to get some finished before the “anticipated” lockdown
Not sure of the efficacy but as we now live in a police state we don’t have a choice
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Morning....out running at 5am to lose my covid baby bump and nrsy went on my hoop in ice and hail, so imagine working on a building site now....you son is in that business, right?
Saw sites may close in Scotland and regarding your police state comment, cops in NI can now turn you back in your car and we have already had curfew from 8pm to 6am.
Church closed too until Feb, so at least I save collection money for 4 weeks lol
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posted 7 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Tully1 (U20686)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Crystal Skull from thon Indiana Jones Disa... (U21917)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 5 minutes ago
Of course the lockdown worked on the initial virus. Now virus boy has got sneaky and can get you more easily. That's the bottom line - even if everyone did as asked the wee bu99er decided to retaliate. And it might mutate again to be even more infectious such that we have to close house vents and not even walk past someone.
All we can do is reduce the occurrences and hope for the best until vaccine hopefully works or we find an effective treatment. The theory is, I believe, it tries to mutate to increase that infectiousness but in doing so reduces in seriousness. Virus evolution 101?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is there any actual evidence the virus is more sneaky, or was the sudden rise in South east due to the total lack of restrictions....
Was good news that there was a new effective treatment today hopefully takes pressure off the nhs. Not sure on virus mutations but all viruses mutate anyway. It’s going to come back every year.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not sure it's more sneakybut it is more contagious
"The new strain registered a higher reproduction (R) rate – which determines how contagious a disease is based on the number of people infected by each infected person – of 0.7 versus 0.4 for the previous strain, even with the “high levels of social distancing” during the pre-Christmas lockdown."
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Didn’t think there was enough data to prove the increase in R number. There were no high levels of social distancing in London and South east in December after their lock down. To me seemed they were simply all mixing, while we had sensible restrictions in Scotland which largely kept the virus at bay.
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I would agree that the more sensible and quicker brought in restrictions in Scotland have helped massively (not too many people espousing the Swedish model now). However, this new variant is spreading quickly in Scotland and the reality is that we need to contain it as best we can until the vaccines become much more widely available.
Given that scenario, and the First Minister's comments, I can see professional sports being classed as non-essential.
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Only really need to vaccinate the vulnerable before some given it’s the vulnerable that are in hospital and dieing. Obviously there are a minority that are not vulnerable but that’s the same for any virus of flu, so would surely make sense to go back to the half measures of early December in March when virus numbers will be very low after a long lockdown anyway.
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Rangers fans should get the vaccine first.
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comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
posted 43 seconds ago
I think it is inevitable that restrictions will tighten further, when Sturgeon says 'we may have to' you can bet you house that is her saying 'get ready for it'.
Christmas was lunacy, the fact that just before it they cut down the days means nothing, they undid a lot of hard work by allowing it even for a day.
No person(s) could have got this right from day one I will give any govt that but equally it could be argued that some of the decisions have been simply baffling.
Peoples attitudes I think in the main have been superb but it only takes a handful of idiots to raise the 'R' number. A good example of that is one lassie at my work who can and should be working from home but simply won't as she is refusing as she finds it boring. Her boss despite my repeated mention of this, is too scared to send her home, in reality she is scared in case she misses some gossip or incident at work. It utterly pathetic.
If I could I would be working from home and doing my bit tbh.
Globally I have seen good and bad, America is a joke and as the other night shows the COVID distancing there is not being forced at all, Israel are superb with their vaccine roll out, along socially distanced people to queue at the end of the day for any vaccine left that may have otherwise have been unusable. On the other hand the won't vaccinate any Palestinians in the West Bank, their long running war taken to new levels even during a Pandemic.
As for the football, could not give a fook tbh, right now there are far, far more pressing issues.
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Agreed Lex
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tbbab, you know I love you but anyone out jogging at 5AM deserves to go erse over teat.
Hope your okay bud. Keep that posterior safe for me.
Why do more and more people contract covid..?
It's not difficult to work out - it's obvious some people are not obeying the rules.
It was ever thus - some people think the rules don't apply to them.
Aliens lock their UFO doors when they fly past Earth.
It was ever thus - some people think the rules don't apply to them.
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To be fair, Rangers were punished for that. Even if not really enough.
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posted on 7/1/21
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 57 seconds ago
Of course the lockdown worked on the initial virus. Now virus boy has got sneaky and can get you more easily. That's the bottom line - even if everyone did as asked the wee bu99er decided to retaliate. And it might mutate again to be even more infectious such that we have to close house vents and not even walk past someone.
All we can do is reduce the occurrences and hope for the best until vaccine hopefully works or we find an effective treatment. The theory is, I believe, it tries to mutate to increase that infectiousness but in doing so reduces in seriousness. Virus evolution 101?
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Not necessarily. It depends how it mutated. The UK variant has 17 small mutations (I think) but the main mutation that the UK variant has seen to make it more infectious is in the spike protein, which is what attaches it to the host cell and therefore wouldn't impact seriousness. The variant in South Africa has seen a very similar mutation in the spike protein to make it more infectious, despite being completely separate (I think that variant has only seen 3 mutations).
In terms of seriousness, if a virus kills its host too quickly then it doesn't spread. At the moment, Covid probably has a perfect balance. From listening to experts, the key thing is that not of the mutations we have seen are expected to impact the effectiveness of the vaccine (the mutations were seen before the vaccine was issued, so shouldn't have been influenced by it). This probably tells us though that Covid isnt going to just go away and that vaccinations could become a regular thing.
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*not expected to impact the effectiveness of the vaccine.
Pretty key type there.
posted on 7/1/21
comment by The Crystal Skull from thon Indiana Jones Disa... (U21917)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 5 minutes ago
Of course the lockdown worked on the initial virus. Now virus boy has got sneaky and can get you more easily. That's the bottom line - even if everyone did as asked the wee bu99er decided to retaliate. And it might mutate again to be even more infectious such that we have to close house vents and not even walk past someone.
All we can do is reduce the occurrences and hope for the best until vaccine hopefully works or we find an effective treatment. The theory is, I believe, it tries to mutate to increase that infectiousness but in doing so reduces in seriousness. Virus evolution 101?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is there any actual evidence the virus is more sneaky, or was the sudden rise in South east due to the total lack of restrictions....
Was good news that there was a new effective treatment today hopefully takes pressure off the nhs. Not sure on virus mutations but all viruses mutate anyway. It’s going to come back every year.
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Not sure it's more sneakybut it is more contagious
"The new strain registered a higher reproduction (R) rate – which determines how contagious a disease is based on the number of people infected by each infected person – of 0.7 versus 0.4 for the previous strain, even with the “high levels of social distancing” during the pre-Christmas lockdown."
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Didn’t think there was enough data to prove the increase in R number. There were no high levels of social distancing in London and South east in December after their lock down. To me seemed they were simply all mixing, while we had sensible restrictions in Scotland which largely kept the virus at bay.
posted on 7/1/21
But still we are succumbing to the new mutant.
posted on 7/1/21
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Crystal Skull from thon Indiana Jones Disa... (U21917)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 5 minutes ago
Of course the lockdown worked on the initial virus. Now virus boy has got sneaky and can get you more easily. That's the bottom line - even if everyone did as asked the wee bu99er decided to retaliate. And it might mutate again to be even more infectious such that we have to close house vents and not even walk past someone.
All we can do is reduce the occurrences and hope for the best until vaccine hopefully works or we find an effective treatment. The theory is, I believe, it tries to mutate to increase that infectiousness but in doing so reduces in seriousness. Virus evolution 101?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is there any actual evidence the virus is more sneaky, or was the sudden rise in South east due to the total lack of restrictions....
Was good news that there was a new effective treatment today hopefully takes pressure off the nhs. Not sure on virus mutations but all viruses mutate anyway. It’s going to come back every year.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not sure it's more sneakybut it is more contagious
"The new strain registered a higher reproduction (R) rate – which determines how contagious a disease is based on the number of people infected by each infected person – of 0.7 versus 0.4 for the previous strain, even with the “high levels of social distancing” during the pre-Christmas lockdown."
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Didn’t think there was enough data to prove the increase in R number. There were no high levels of social distancing in London and South east in December after their lock down. To me seemed they were simply all mixing, while we had sensible restrictions in Scotland which largely kept the virus at bay.
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I would agree that the more sensible and quicker brought in restrictions in Scotland have helped massively (not too many people espousing the Swedish model now). However, this new variant is spreading quickly in Scotland and the reality is that we need to contain it as best we can until the vaccines become much more widely available.
Given that scenario, and the First Minister's comments, I can see professional sports being classed as non-essential.
posted on 7/1/21
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 16 minutes ago
Lockdown, if properly implemented and adhered to, quite evidently works at suppressing the spread of the virus. Remember folk are still flying into the country without needing a negative test, without quarantining, without effective track and tracing.
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It is 'interesting', bmcl.
Could we, should we? I think we over-estimated the impact on the economy of a travel ban? Hindsight an dall that but the travel industry was gonna be fckd anyway.
First wave we didn't have test capacity anyway - I think a total ban would have been seen as draconian? Plenty country borders close but I think even in the likes of Germany it was half hearted and international flights still flew. We relied on quarantine and it wasn't policed or enforced.
We still didn't have mass testing when travel opened again in the late summer. By then, rates were so low I'm not sure testing was effective anyway?
posted on 7/1/21
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posted on 7/1/21
comment by Tully1 (U20686)
posted 3 minutes ago
... I can see professional sports being classed as non-essential.
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So, null & void it is? Fair enough.
posted on 7/1/21
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posted on 7/1/21
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tully1 (U20686)
posted 3 minutes ago
... I can see professional sports being classed as non-essential.
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So, null & void it is? Fair enough.
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Would bringing in an extended 'winter break' help?
posted on 7/1/21
comment by Tully1 (U20686)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tully1 (U20686)
posted 3 minutes ago
... I can see professional sports being classed as non-essential.
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So, null & void it is? Fair enough.
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Would bringing in an extended 'winter break' help?
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Naw - Griff would come back 22 stone and 2 more addictions
posted on 7/1/21
comment by Tully1 (U20686)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Crystal Skull from thon Indiana Jones Disa... (U21917)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 5 minutes ago
Of course the lockdown worked on the initial virus. Now virus boy has got sneaky and can get you more easily. That's the bottom line - even if everyone did as asked the wee bu99er decided to retaliate. And it might mutate again to be even more infectious such that we have to close house vents and not even walk past someone.
All we can do is reduce the occurrences and hope for the best until vaccine hopefully works or we find an effective treatment. The theory is, I believe, it tries to mutate to increase that infectiousness but in doing so reduces in seriousness. Virus evolution 101?
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Is there any actual evidence the virus is more sneaky, or was the sudden rise in South east due to the total lack of restrictions....
Was good news that there was a new effective treatment today hopefully takes pressure off the nhs. Not sure on virus mutations but all viruses mutate anyway. It’s going to come back every year.
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Not sure it's more sneakybut it is more contagious
"The new strain registered a higher reproduction (R) rate – which determines how contagious a disease is based on the number of people infected by each infected person – of 0.7 versus 0.4 for the previous strain, even with the “high levels of social distancing” during the pre-Christmas lockdown."
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Didn’t think there was enough data to prove the increase in R number. There were no high levels of social distancing in London and South east in December after their lock down. To me seemed they were simply all mixing, while we had sensible restrictions in Scotland which largely kept the virus at bay.
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I would agree that the more sensible and quicker brought in restrictions in Scotland have helped massively (not too many people espousing the Swedish model now). However, this new variant is spreading quickly in Scotland and the reality is that we need to contain it as best we can until the vaccines become much more widely available.
Given that scenario, and the First Minister's comments, I can see professional sports being classed as non-essential.
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Only really need to vaccinate the vulnerable before some given it’s the vulnerable that are in hospital and dieing. Obviously there are a minority that are not vulnerable but that’s the same for any virus of flu, so would surely make sense to go back to the half measures of early December in March when virus numbers will be very low after a long lockdown anyway.
posted on 7/1/21
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Tully1 (U20686)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tully1 (U20686)
posted 3 minutes ago
... I can see professional sports being classed as non-essential.
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So, null & void it is? Fair enough.
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Would bringing in an extended 'winter break' help?
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Naw - Griff would come back 22 stone and 2 more addictions
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👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
posted on 7/1/21
comment by The Crystal Skull from thon Indiana Jones Disaster (U21917)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tully1 (U20686)
posted 3 minutes ago
... I can see professional sports being classed as non-essential.
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So, null & void it is? Fair enough.
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I personally couldn't care less there are far more important things to worry about.
I think the loss of revenue from Sky would cause even more hardship for the clubs up here, especially with the loss of revenue and the millions the league lost by ending the season early last season.
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Aye, I see the prem clubs that want the gov money are asking where it is?
Also see Arsenal have taken a £120m loan until May to ease cashflow? There's no fans coming back this year - if you need loans in lieu of cashflow you are almost certainly fckd.
posted on 7/1/21
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posted on 8/1/21
comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 3 hours, 4 minutes ago
Finish rebuilding Hadrian's Wall for a start.
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You want to build a wall through the middle of Newcastle?
posted on 8/1/21
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posted on 8/1/21
comment by Zachsda( We don’t walk away or throw sharks) (U1850)
posted 58 minutes ago
My son thinks it’s coming his way again
Him and the company owner have been “managing” jobs in the last week trying to get some finished before the “anticipated” lockdown
Not sure of the efficacy but as we now live in a police state we don’t have a choice
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Morning....out running at 5am to lose my covid baby bump and nrsy went on my hoop in ice and hail, so imagine working on a building site now....you son is in that business, right?
Saw sites may close in Scotland and regarding your police state comment, cops in NI can now turn you back in your car and we have already had curfew from 8pm to 6am.
Church closed too until Feb, so at least I save collection money for 4 weeks lol
posted on 8/1/21
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 7 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Tully1 (U20686)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Crystal Skull from thon Indiana Jones Disa... (U21917)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 5 minutes ago
Of course the lockdown worked on the initial virus. Now virus boy has got sneaky and can get you more easily. That's the bottom line - even if everyone did as asked the wee bu99er decided to retaliate. And it might mutate again to be even more infectious such that we have to close house vents and not even walk past someone.
All we can do is reduce the occurrences and hope for the best until vaccine hopefully works or we find an effective treatment. The theory is, I believe, it tries to mutate to increase that infectiousness but in doing so reduces in seriousness. Virus evolution 101?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is there any actual evidence the virus is more sneaky, or was the sudden rise in South east due to the total lack of restrictions....
Was good news that there was a new effective treatment today hopefully takes pressure off the nhs. Not sure on virus mutations but all viruses mutate anyway. It’s going to come back every year.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not sure it's more sneakybut it is more contagious
"The new strain registered a higher reproduction (R) rate – which determines how contagious a disease is based on the number of people infected by each infected person – of 0.7 versus 0.4 for the previous strain, even with the “high levels of social distancing” during the pre-Christmas lockdown."
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Didn’t think there was enough data to prove the increase in R number. There were no high levels of social distancing in London and South east in December after their lock down. To me seemed they were simply all mixing, while we had sensible restrictions in Scotland which largely kept the virus at bay.
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I would agree that the more sensible and quicker brought in restrictions in Scotland have helped massively (not too many people espousing the Swedish model now). However, this new variant is spreading quickly in Scotland and the reality is that we need to contain it as best we can until the vaccines become much more widely available.
Given that scenario, and the First Minister's comments, I can see professional sports being classed as non-essential.
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Only really need to vaccinate the vulnerable before some given it’s the vulnerable that are in hospital and dieing. Obviously there are a minority that are not vulnerable but that’s the same for any virus of flu, so would surely make sense to go back to the half measures of early December in March when virus numbers will be very low after a long lockdown anyway.
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Rangers fans should get the vaccine first.
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comment by lexballielegend (U22335)
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I think it is inevitable that restrictions will tighten further, when Sturgeon says 'we may have to' you can bet you house that is her saying 'get ready for it'.
Christmas was lunacy, the fact that just before it they cut down the days means nothing, they undid a lot of hard work by allowing it even for a day.
No person(s) could have got this right from day one I will give any govt that but equally it could be argued that some of the decisions have been simply baffling.
Peoples attitudes I think in the main have been superb but it only takes a handful of idiots to raise the 'R' number. A good example of that is one lassie at my work who can and should be working from home but simply won't as she is refusing as she finds it boring. Her boss despite my repeated mention of this, is too scared to send her home, in reality she is scared in case she misses some gossip or incident at work. It utterly pathetic.
If I could I would be working from home and doing my bit tbh.
Globally I have seen good and bad, America is a joke and as the other night shows the COVID distancing there is not being forced at all, Israel are superb with their vaccine roll out, along socially distanced people to queue at the end of the day for any vaccine left that may have otherwise have been unusable. On the other hand the won't vaccinate any Palestinians in the West Bank, their long running war taken to new levels even during a Pandemic.
As for the football, could not give a fook tbh, right now there are far, far more pressing issues.
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Agreed Lex
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tbbab, you know I love you but anyone out jogging at 5AM deserves to go erse over teat.
Hope your okay bud. Keep that posterior safe for me.
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Why do more and more people contract covid..?
It's not difficult to work out - it's obvious some people are not obeying the rules.
It was ever thus - some people think the rules don't apply to them.
Aliens lock their UFO doors when they fly past Earth.
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It was ever thus - some people think the rules don't apply to them.
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To be fair, Rangers were punished for that. Even if not really enough.
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