comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 8 seconds ago
Thing that grinds my gears, if we didn't concede late equalisers against Newcastle, West Ham, Wolves and Fulham wed be about 8 points clear at the top
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Every team can play that game though to be fair.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That`s bollox, some teams have more points than they deserve, if the officials were not so incompetent and biased, some clubs would have a lot less points.
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah I remember you playing some good stuff for a few months in the title winning season. But there was a lot of negative shiiiiit as well. It’s why so many were talking about Chelsea being the worst premier league champions (until Leicester came along).
And don’t forget all the negative crap you played the season before that. As well as in Mourinho’s first spell.
Then there’s United, Real Madrid and Inter. Mourinho’s earned this reputation for negative football for doing it for 15 years. It makes me laugh when people act surprised he does it again and again.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Again I'm talking about degrees of negativity. I wouldn't describe his Real Madrid team as negative for example, some of the best counter attacking football I've ever seen - they played to win, they just did it an unconventional, un-Real Madrid way.
In 13/14 we had the odd game, the classic example the Anfield one, but we imposed ourselves on games much more than Spurs are doing now. It wasn't Rodgers Liverpool levels of aggressive, but I wouldn't describe it as negative either.
I maybe shouldn't be surprised he reverted to type after the West Ham game because he did the same that 14/15 season when we lost 5-3 to Spurs, but we were front runners in the title race at the time at the half way point. Made more sense doing it then, with the players we had in defense, than doing it 4/5 games into a season with the defense Spurs have.
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● 2020* 2021* (U3924)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 8 seconds ago
Thing that grinds my gears, if we didn't concede late equalisers against Newcastle, West Ham, Wolves and Fulham wed be about 8 points clear at the top
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Every team can play that game though to be fair.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That`s bollox, some teams have more points than they deserve, if the officials were not so incompetent and biased, some clubs would have a lot less points.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Like Penited and VARpool you mean🤣
They played loads of negative football under Mourinho. Ronaldo is the best counter attacking footballer of all time, so they killed teams on the counter. Didn’t stop a lot of the games being negative.
I think you’ve got rose tinted glasses. That Chelsea team was extremely dull and defensive. Mourinho’s Chelsea, United and Spurs teams have been similar levels of shiiiit on a stick football. Biggest difference was one had John Terry and Hazard.
It’s not a case of making sense either. It’s about what is Mourinho’s natural set up. Going defensive, looking to grind out wins and finish a team off on the counter is what has brought him success. It doesn’t matter whether the defence is good enough to cope with it. It’s just how the negative cuuuuunt views football.
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
If he's still here next season then there will be too much damage for the next manager to unwind quickly.
If we got a new manager in the summer I'd be very excited with our squad.
Levy is obsessed with CL football. If Jose can't deliver it after 2 seasons I can't see how he stays. My only worry is the ridiculously long contract levy gave him. Hopefully there is some CL related break clause.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He was only given a three year contract
Unfortunately Levy is only swayed by gate receipts. If he got even a sniff that fan attendance was down, he'd pull the trigger. That can't happen at the moment but with the kind of football and results Jose is delivering, you know that would be happening. The sound of boos would be utterly deafening as well. That would have been hard for Levy to ignore. He'd be under so much more pressure without Covid.
comment by CurrentlyStuckIntheUK (U11181)
posted 2 hours, 41 minutes ago
What if he wins the Europa? Then he could finish 6th and still get CL football. And he'll be the most successful Spurs manager in the modern era.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the thing with blasé comments about us winning the Europa and league cup. We won’t. We are not good enough. City will humiliate us at Wembley, and there are comfortably 8 other better teams than us in the Europa.
If we played arsenal tomorrow I wouldn’t fancy us.
I think you’ve got rose tinted glasses. That Chelsea team was extremely dull and defensive. Mourinho’s Chelsea, United and Spurs teams have been similar levels of shiiiit on a stick football. Biggest difference was one had John Terry and Hazard.
------------------------------------------------------
Yeah Chelsea fans have told me that but I just don't see it. We had several games that first season where we were on top of the opposition but lacked a clinical touch with strikers like Torres in the team. Think it was that season where we had the stupid 40 shots to 1 vs. West Ham game where Mourinho made the black & decker comments
Still Mourinho was God to me at the time & it's not a popular opinion so I'll concede it may not have been as good as I remember it
Oh most definitely. There’s a reason everyone that had Chelsea inflicted on a them (that didn’t support them) were calling them the worst prem champions of all time. Leicester coming along a year made everyone forget how shiiiiit you were.
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 4 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 7 seconds ago
Thing that grinds my gears, if we didn't concede late equalisers against Newcastle, West Ham, Wolves and Fulham wed be about 8 points clear at the top
----------------------------------------------------------------------
don't do that to yourself... also remember we got undeserved late winners at west brom and burnley which we easily could have not done. brighton at home too
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Good point we were rubbish in all those wins. Aside from Man U and Southampton perhaps City we've been negative rubbish
first half vs arsenal we did exactly what was needed and they played right into our hands. Completely just stopped playing second half and they were so toothless they couldnt even muster a chance which lesser clubs have been able to do v us.
Im no mourinho fan but as an outsider here my thoughts are you are 6 points off the top, you have the 2nd best goal difference in the league and you are in a cup final.
6 weeks ago yous were flavour of the month, best thing since slice bread now yous are cannon fodder. Reality is its somewhere in between that.
I really dont think there is much at all between yourselves chelsea and united (regardless of their current position). And out of them 3 over the course of a season im backing mourinho to have the edge over ole and lampard.
His football is turgid but thats how it has always been. He is good at what he does. Im pretty sure before a ball was kicked this season if u were offered 6 points off top and a cup final to look forward to youd have snapped it up.
comment by Mellor, Lovely Cushioned Header, FOR GERRARD, OOOOOOHHHHHH YAAAAAAA BEEEUUUTTTYYYYY!!!!!!!!! (U1859)
posted 3 minutes ago
Im no mourinho fan but as an outsider here my thoughts are you are 6 points off the top, you have the 2nd best goal difference in the league and you are in a cup final.
6 weeks ago yous were flavour of the month, best thing since slice bread now yous are cannon fodder. Reality is its somewhere in between that.
I really dont think there is much at all between yourselves chelsea and united (regardless of their current position). And out of them 3 over the course of a season im backing mourinho to have the edge over ole and lampard.
His football is turgid but thats how it has always been. He is good at what he does. Im pretty sure before a ball was kicked this season if u were offered 6 points off top and a cup final to look forward to youd have snapped it up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
a lot of the frustration is that the league is wide open and we are pissssing away points for exactly the same reason on a consistent basis.
if it was players making absurd individual errors or opposition scoring worldies then that's one thing. but its not.
its a constant pattern.
go ahead. all out defence. concede late. don't score again.
as if spurs will ever be a side to consistently see out 1-0 wins.. its never happened, and it never will... its so far from our DNA, and we don't have the personnel. at 1-0 up its so much easier to get the second goal than it is at 1-1 when the other team are happy with their point and are boyed by teir equalizer.
playing sissoko in an attacking position with bale Vinicius dele lucas and lamela on the bench is a joke. it simply cannot be defended.
3 DMs on the pitch at home to Fulham? what kind of nonsense is that
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Mellor, Lovely Cushioned Header, FOR GERRARD, OOOOOOHHHHHH YAAAAAAA BEEEUUUTTTYYYYY!!!!!!!!! (U1859)
posted 3 minutes ago
Im no mourinho fan but as an outsider here my thoughts are you are 6 points off the top, you have the 2nd best goal difference in the league and you are in a cup final.
6 weeks ago yous were flavour of the month, best thing since slice bread now yous are cannon fodder. Reality is its somewhere in between that.
I really dont think there is much at all between yourselves chelsea and united (regardless of their current position). And out of them 3 over the course of a season im backing mourinho to have the edge over ole and lampard.
His football is turgid but thats how it has always been. He is good at what he does. Im pretty sure before a ball was kicked this season if u were offered 6 points off top and a cup final to look forward to youd have snapped it up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
a lot of the frustration is that the league is wide open and we are pissssing away points for exactly the same reason on a consistent basis.
if it was players making absurd individual errors or opposition scoring worldies then that's one thing. but its not.
its a constant pattern.
go ahead. all out defence. concede late. don't score again.
as if spurs will ever be a side to consistently see out 1-0 wins.. its never happened, and it never will... its so far from our DNA, and we don't have the personnel. at 1-0 up its so much easier to get the second goal than it is at 1-1 when the other team are happy with their point and are boyed by teir equalizer.
playing sissoko in an attacking position with bale Vinicius dele lucas and lamela on the bench is a joke. it simply cannot be defended.
3 DMs on the pitch at home to Fulham? what kind of nonsense is that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is a bit mystifying that he doesnt take the shackles off a bit more given the attacking talent you have at your disposal. But I suppose asking a manager to change the fundamentals that has propelled him to 1 of the greatest managers of all time is also a bit of a stretch.
I get the frustrations, but most teams at the top have them frustrations this year, this season is like none other. Ive been tearing my hair out lately watching us fail miserably at breaking down some of the poorest sides in the league.
Yous know better than me obviously, I cant sit here and say I watch every spurs game. But I would not be the slightest bit surprised if come the end of the season he has won yous either the league cup or europa along with a top 3 finish.
His football is turgid but thats how it has always been. He is good at what he does. Im pretty sure before a ball was kicked this season if u were offered 6 points off top and a cup final to look forward to youd have snapped it up.
============================
You're probably right but it's hard for us Spurs fans to see that or to even acknowledge because we could have and should have had more.
Let's see how the next month pans out, and I am sure that will be key for if Jose/Levy love-in grows stronger or a divorce is imminent!
If he does not win something this season he will be gone next season.
Sign in if you want to comment
Will Jose be in charge next season?
Page 3 of 3
posted on 14/1/21
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 8 seconds ago
Thing that grinds my gears, if we didn't concede late equalisers against Newcastle, West Ham, Wolves and Fulham wed be about 8 points clear at the top
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Every team can play that game though to be fair.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That`s bollox, some teams have more points than they deserve, if the officials were not so incompetent and biased, some clubs would have a lot less points.
posted on 14/1/21
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah I remember you playing some good stuff for a few months in the title winning season. But there was a lot of negative shiiiiit as well. It’s why so many were talking about Chelsea being the worst premier league champions (until Leicester came along).
And don’t forget all the negative crap you played the season before that. As well as in Mourinho’s first spell.
Then there’s United, Real Madrid and Inter. Mourinho’s earned this reputation for negative football for doing it for 15 years. It makes me laugh when people act surprised he does it again and again.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Again I'm talking about degrees of negativity. I wouldn't describe his Real Madrid team as negative for example, some of the best counter attacking football I've ever seen - they played to win, they just did it an unconventional, un-Real Madrid way.
In 13/14 we had the odd game, the classic example the Anfield one, but we imposed ourselves on games much more than Spurs are doing now. It wasn't Rodgers Liverpool levels of aggressive, but I wouldn't describe it as negative either.
I maybe shouldn't be surprised he reverted to type after the West Ham game because he did the same that 14/15 season when we lost 5-3 to Spurs, but we were front runners in the title race at the time at the half way point. Made more sense doing it then, with the players we had in defense, than doing it 4/5 games into a season with the defense Spurs have.
posted on 14/1/21
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● 2020* 2021* (U3924)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 8 seconds ago
Thing that grinds my gears, if we didn't concede late equalisers against Newcastle, West Ham, Wolves and Fulham wed be about 8 points clear at the top
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Every team can play that game though to be fair.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That`s bollox, some teams have more points than they deserve, if the officials were not so incompetent and biased, some clubs would have a lot less points.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Like Penited and VARpool you mean🤣
posted on 14/1/21
AstPen Villa
posted on 14/1/21
They played loads of negative football under Mourinho. Ronaldo is the best counter attacking footballer of all time, so they killed teams on the counter. Didn’t stop a lot of the games being negative.
I think you’ve got rose tinted glasses. That Chelsea team was extremely dull and defensive. Mourinho’s Chelsea, United and Spurs teams have been similar levels of shiiiit on a stick football. Biggest difference was one had John Terry and Hazard.
It’s not a case of making sense either. It’s about what is Mourinho’s natural set up. Going defensive, looking to grind out wins and finish a team off on the counter is what has brought him success. It doesn’t matter whether the defence is good enough to cope with it. It’s just how the negative cuuuuunt views football.
posted on 14/1/21
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
If he's still here next season then there will be too much damage for the next manager to unwind quickly.
If we got a new manager in the summer I'd be very excited with our squad.
Levy is obsessed with CL football. If Jose can't deliver it after 2 seasons I can't see how he stays. My only worry is the ridiculously long contract levy gave him. Hopefully there is some CL related break clause.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He was only given a three year contract
posted on 14/1/21
Unfortunately Levy is only swayed by gate receipts. If he got even a sniff that fan attendance was down, he'd pull the trigger. That can't happen at the moment but with the kind of football and results Jose is delivering, you know that would be happening. The sound of boos would be utterly deafening as well. That would have been hard for Levy to ignore. He'd be under so much more pressure without Covid.
posted on 14/1/21
comment by CurrentlyStuckIntheUK (U11181)
posted 2 hours, 41 minutes ago
What if he wins the Europa? Then he could finish 6th and still get CL football. And he'll be the most successful Spurs manager in the modern era.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the thing with blasé comments about us winning the Europa and league cup. We won’t. We are not good enough. City will humiliate us at Wembley, and there are comfortably 8 other better teams than us in the Europa.
If we played arsenal tomorrow I wouldn’t fancy us.
posted on 14/1/21
I think you’ve got rose tinted glasses. That Chelsea team was extremely dull and defensive. Mourinho’s Chelsea, United and Spurs teams have been similar levels of shiiiit on a stick football. Biggest difference was one had John Terry and Hazard.
------------------------------------------------------
Yeah Chelsea fans have told me that but I just don't see it. We had several games that first season where we were on top of the opposition but lacked a clinical touch with strikers like Torres in the team. Think it was that season where we had the stupid 40 shots to 1 vs. West Ham game where Mourinho made the black & decker comments
Still Mourinho was God to me at the time & it's not a popular opinion so I'll concede it may not have been as good as I remember it
posted on 14/1/21
Oh most definitely. There’s a reason everyone that had Chelsea inflicted on a them (that didn’t support them) were calling them the worst prem champions of all time. Leicester coming along a year made everyone forget how shiiiiit you were.
posted on 14/1/21
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 4 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 7 seconds ago
Thing that grinds my gears, if we didn't concede late equalisers against Newcastle, West Ham, Wolves and Fulham wed be about 8 points clear at the top
----------------------------------------------------------------------
don't do that to yourself... also remember we got undeserved late winners at west brom and burnley which we easily could have not done. brighton at home too
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Good point we were rubbish in all those wins. Aside from Man U and Southampton perhaps City we've been negative rubbish
posted on 14/1/21
first half vs arsenal we did exactly what was needed and they played right into our hands. Completely just stopped playing second half and they were so toothless they couldnt even muster a chance which lesser clubs have been able to do v us.
posted on 14/1/21
Im no mourinho fan but as an outsider here my thoughts are you are 6 points off the top, you have the 2nd best goal difference in the league and you are in a cup final.
6 weeks ago yous were flavour of the month, best thing since slice bread now yous are cannon fodder. Reality is its somewhere in between that.
I really dont think there is much at all between yourselves chelsea and united (regardless of their current position). And out of them 3 over the course of a season im backing mourinho to have the edge over ole and lampard.
His football is turgid but thats how it has always been. He is good at what he does. Im pretty sure before a ball was kicked this season if u were offered 6 points off top and a cup final to look forward to youd have snapped it up.
posted on 14/1/21
comment by Mellor, Lovely Cushioned Header, FOR GERRARD, OOOOOOHHHHHH YAAAAAAA BEEEUUUTTTYYYYY!!!!!!!!! (U1859)
posted 3 minutes ago
Im no mourinho fan but as an outsider here my thoughts are you are 6 points off the top, you have the 2nd best goal difference in the league and you are in a cup final.
6 weeks ago yous were flavour of the month, best thing since slice bread now yous are cannon fodder. Reality is its somewhere in between that.
I really dont think there is much at all between yourselves chelsea and united (regardless of their current position). And out of them 3 over the course of a season im backing mourinho to have the edge over ole and lampard.
His football is turgid but thats how it has always been. He is good at what he does. Im pretty sure before a ball was kicked this season if u were offered 6 points off top and a cup final to look forward to youd have snapped it up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
a lot of the frustration is that the league is wide open and we are pissssing away points for exactly the same reason on a consistent basis.
if it was players making absurd individual errors or opposition scoring worldies then that's one thing. but its not.
its a constant pattern.
go ahead. all out defence. concede late. don't score again.
as if spurs will ever be a side to consistently see out 1-0 wins.. its never happened, and it never will... its so far from our DNA, and we don't have the personnel. at 1-0 up its so much easier to get the second goal than it is at 1-1 when the other team are happy with their point and are boyed by teir equalizer.
playing sissoko in an attacking position with bale Vinicius dele lucas and lamela on the bench is a joke. it simply cannot be defended.
3 DMs on the pitch at home to Fulham? what kind of nonsense is that
posted on 14/1/21
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Mellor, Lovely Cushioned Header, FOR GERRARD, OOOOOOHHHHHH YAAAAAAA BEEEUUUTTTYYYYY!!!!!!!!! (U1859)
posted 3 minutes ago
Im no mourinho fan but as an outsider here my thoughts are you are 6 points off the top, you have the 2nd best goal difference in the league and you are in a cup final.
6 weeks ago yous were flavour of the month, best thing since slice bread now yous are cannon fodder. Reality is its somewhere in between that.
I really dont think there is much at all between yourselves chelsea and united (regardless of their current position). And out of them 3 over the course of a season im backing mourinho to have the edge over ole and lampard.
His football is turgid but thats how it has always been. He is good at what he does. Im pretty sure before a ball was kicked this season if u were offered 6 points off top and a cup final to look forward to youd have snapped it up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
a lot of the frustration is that the league is wide open and we are pissssing away points for exactly the same reason on a consistent basis.
if it was players making absurd individual errors or opposition scoring worldies then that's one thing. but its not.
its a constant pattern.
go ahead. all out defence. concede late. don't score again.
as if spurs will ever be a side to consistently see out 1-0 wins.. its never happened, and it never will... its so far from our DNA, and we don't have the personnel. at 1-0 up its so much easier to get the second goal than it is at 1-1 when the other team are happy with their point and are boyed by teir equalizer.
playing sissoko in an attacking position with bale Vinicius dele lucas and lamela on the bench is a joke. it simply cannot be defended.
3 DMs on the pitch at home to Fulham? what kind of nonsense is that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is a bit mystifying that he doesnt take the shackles off a bit more given the attacking talent you have at your disposal. But I suppose asking a manager to change the fundamentals that has propelled him to 1 of the greatest managers of all time is also a bit of a stretch.
I get the frustrations, but most teams at the top have them frustrations this year, this season is like none other. Ive been tearing my hair out lately watching us fail miserably at breaking down some of the poorest sides in the league.
Yous know better than me obviously, I cant sit here and say I watch every spurs game. But I would not be the slightest bit surprised if come the end of the season he has won yous either the league cup or europa along with a top 3 finish.
posted on 14/1/21
His football is turgid but thats how it has always been. He is good at what he does. Im pretty sure before a ball was kicked this season if u were offered 6 points off top and a cup final to look forward to youd have snapped it up.
============================
You're probably right but it's hard for us Spurs fans to see that or to even acknowledge because we could have and should have had more.
Let's see how the next month pans out, and I am sure that will be key for if Jose/Levy love-in grows stronger or a divorce is imminent!
posted on 14/1/21
If he does not win something this season he will be gone next season.
Page 3 of 3