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comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
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Jose’s biggest fault is starting PEH & Sissoko in games we should dominate
I’d like.........
***************Hugo**********
****Toby*****Dier*****Rodon***
*Aurier******PEH********Reggie***
*********Eriksen*****NDombele****
**************Kane ***Sonny*******
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As much as I like that, there's no way Jose would go for it. If the wing backs play high, which you'd hope they would, the back three would be pretty exposed. I'd love to see it though. We'd defo score a lot more and to be honest, that's the only way we'd be able to get Eriksen back in the side.
I wonder if it might stifle Kane's ability to drop deep as well. That said, we rely on him too much anyway. At least this way we have other players contributing. If Kane does get injured this season, it's going to hit us way more than an other time it's happened as Son is half the player without Harry supporting him.
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Isn't your last sentance doing Vinicius some desservice? Yes he is no Kane but from what I have seen he is no mug either. I respectfully disagree with the "hit us way more than an other time it's happened" bit. We have Bale as well who could play up top IF needed to.
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Good point! I'd actually forgotten about Vinicius, who to be fair, has looked pretty sharp. Says something about how little game time he's getting that he wasn't even in my thoughts. He deserves more.
My point wasn't about goals though, I've no doubt CV would be a very able deputy for that. It's more the whole picture. Kane is our highest goalscorer (level with Son) and our highest assist maker. Lose him and you not only lose the goals but the creativity that puts the chances on a plate. That's frightening.
Of the three midfield options (PEH, Sissoko and Ndombele), you'd probably say Ndombele is the only creative one but he has the sum total of 3 goals and 1 assist. To put that into context, he has assisted less than both Reguillon and Aurier.
This is why I think we need Eriksen. We don't have the craft in midfield. I love Ndombele and he serves the same purpose as Dembele did. He won't score or assist loads, but he will connect the play. Eriksen can take the burden off Kane and Son, who together have an astounding 24 goals and 17 assists in the Prem already this season.
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Agree but this is on the premise that Eriksen plays the same as he did 2 or 3 years ago. His levels dropped with us and Conte doesn't trust or play him. Big gamble and possibly worth taking if it is a loan until the end of the season.
It bothered either way about Dele
No to Eriksen
Sell Dele and bring in someone better than Eriksen and Dele
If Eriksen comes he would play instead of Ndombele ,can't see Maurinho playing both, so are we better?
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comment by MKspur ツ - The Fountain of Knowledge (U9129)
posted 3 hours, 9 minutes ago
We will be better as eriksen will get on the pitch where dele doesn’t.
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This
As always when it comes to Jose, the moves you make tend to only make sense within the context of Jose
Dropped 10 from winning positions I think. That’s not good at all. Even half of them converted into wins and we’d be well in it
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comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Tarrico_sees_red (U5595)
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Dropped 10 from winning positions I think. That’s not good at all. Even half of them converted into wins and we’d be well in it
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Makes you sick doesn’t it.
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It does and it’s gutting, but look on the other side of the coin, we are 8 points better off this same time last season. Those ridiculous draws we should of won would of put us comfortably top. It’s Spurs though and it’s what we do.
Not for me I dont want him back and dont think Jose will either.
Jose loves players who work and tackle to win the ball back so why would he want Eriksen who shirks tackles left right and centre.
For the sort of money Eriksen would want there must be better out there.
And before you all jump up and down and scream at me about his talent, I wont argue against Eriksen who has fantastic ability but he has no heart and no bottle and for me thats a big no.
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 32 minutes ago
_________Hugo
Aurier—Toby__Dier—Reggie
__Ndombele_Hoijbjerg
Bergwjin__Eriksen___Son
_________Kane
Would be the team I’d want to see if this happened. If it doesn’t happen, I’d want to see that same team but with Dele or GLC in Eriksens position. What I don’t want to see, except for against the very best oppo or when we’re closing games out, is Sissoko, Winks and PEH all on the same pitch.
I have mixed feeling about CE coming back as it means bringing back another older, of form player hoping they can rekindle some long lost magic - a strategy than rarely works. But as someone said above, swapping him for Dele is essentially gaining a player as Dele can’t even get in the squad now. So on that basis I’d say fack it, he’s a creator of chances - if we could get him on loan and see what he can do it might not be a bad thing.
Worryingly for me Winks also can’t get in the squad, but Gedson can. And, Toby has been behind Sanchez and Roden in the last 2 PL games. I’m concerned about what is going on behind the scenes and some of Jose’s decision making which is starting to get, frankly, bizarre.
The frustration is that this league is wide open and if we’d had the gumption to consolidate some of those leads we’d had instead of trying to defend them for dear life we could be top of the table. We don’t have enough talent in the squad to do a City/Liverpool and accurately 95+ points. But that’s not gonna be needed this year, probably looking at 80-85 and we do have the talent to get to that level if it was used correctly. Problem is that now with so many stupidly dropped points the chance has come and gone, and a dogfight for top 4 is all we have to look forward to.
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Perfectly put
Everyone seems to have lost sight of the fact that this would be a loan if anything at all. Try before you buy on a player that's proven in the league, is in the top 5 assist makers of the last 7 years and would know the game of each player in our current squad. I find it weird that there are supporters that wouldn't take a punt on that.
The alternative is someone untested in the Prem with no real pedigree at the price range we can afford. Eriksen is the best we can get, and one thing we have on our side, it sounds like he wants back in.
If we don't get him he could end up at United or Arsenal and the latter fills me with dread.
Strange one if it happens as on the face of it seems like a fairly good deal if its a loan and Inter pay 30%+ of his wages.
Will always love Eriksen an absolute assist machine in his prime the trouble is that was 3 years ago. Conte is of the same mould as Jose so not sure how that pans out but presume Jose is pushing for this deal.
Fitness also a concern as he has hardly played and only half the season left (plenty of games though).
I suppose if Dele is out then its a player that can fit in quickly (fitness permitting)
“ Will always love Eriksen an absolute assist machine in his prime the trouble is that was 3 years ago”
The 18/19 season so 6 months before he left was his best season with us. 27 goal contributions ( 10 goals & 17 assists ).
comment by grandspurs (U3810)
posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
Not for me I dont want him back and dont think Jose will either.
Jose loves players who work and tackle to win the ball back so why would he want Eriksen who shirks tackles left right and centre.
For the sort of money Eriksen would want there must be better out there.
And before you all jump up and down and scream at me about his talent, I wont argue against Eriksen who has fantastic ability but he has no heart and no bottle and for me thats a big no.
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Eriksen was always one of the hardest working players, fair enough he did shirk a tackle, but he is an intelligent footballer and was very clever in his pressing and cutting off the oppositions passing. He did a lot of hard work that went unnoticed by most, he wasn`t at the top of the running stats for nothing.
When Eriksen left the team, the drop off in our ability to play quick passing football was there for all to see, he made us tick and our team is still lacking a player like that now.
Having cloggers like Sissoko as the first name on the team sheet will get us nowhere.
I don't think we'll get Eriksen back seeing as Inter don't seem keen to negotiate. First Skriniar, now the loan fee which apparently only applies to us. Even if we do he'll not be properly match fit anyway.
If Dele goes it's because he doesn't want to fight for his place. I don't see the point in a loan in that case. We either sell or have a sale agreed in the deal. Buy someone better with the money.
Who could blame Dele for not wanting to fight for his place, he has probably been trying that all season and got nowhere, while at the same time he sees unproductive dross getting undeserved starts ahead of him, there is now wonder he will have lost all desire to fight.
Dele does not fit with Mourinho`s brand of football, he wants him out so he can bring in a more defensive player, it`s as simple as that. All this nonsense about earning your place in the team is just a smokescreen, there are several other players who have not earned a place in the team and yet they continue to be picked, some of them even broke covid rules and they are still picked, which is hardly consistent or fair.
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posted on 19/1/21
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by LukaBrasi LOL (U22178)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 3 minutes ago
Jose’s biggest fault is starting PEH & Sissoko in games we should dominate
I’d like.........
***************Hugo**********
****Toby*****Dier*****Rodon***
*Aurier******PEH********Reggie***
*********Eriksen*****NDombele****
**************Kane ***Sonny*******
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As much as I like that, there's no way Jose would go for it. If the wing backs play high, which you'd hope they would, the back three would be pretty exposed. I'd love to see it though. We'd defo score a lot more and to be honest, that's the only way we'd be able to get Eriksen back in the side.
I wonder if it might stifle Kane's ability to drop deep as well. That said, we rely on him too much anyway. At least this way we have other players contributing. If Kane does get injured this season, it's going to hit us way more than an other time it's happened as Son is half the player without Harry supporting him.
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Isn't your last sentance doing Vinicius some desservice? Yes he is no Kane but from what I have seen he is no mug either. I respectfully disagree with the "hit us way more than an other time it's happened" bit. We have Bale as well who could play up top IF needed to.
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Good point! I'd actually forgotten about Vinicius, who to be fair, has looked pretty sharp. Says something about how little game time he's getting that he wasn't even in my thoughts. He deserves more.
My point wasn't about goals though, I've no doubt CV would be a very able deputy for that. It's more the whole picture. Kane is our highest goalscorer (level with Son) and our highest assist maker. Lose him and you not only lose the goals but the creativity that puts the chances on a plate. That's frightening.
Of the three midfield options (PEH, Sissoko and Ndombele), you'd probably say Ndombele is the only creative one but he has the sum total of 3 goals and 1 assist. To put that into context, he has assisted less than both Reguillon and Aurier.
This is why I think we need Eriksen. We don't have the craft in midfield. I love Ndombele and he serves the same purpose as Dembele did. He won't score or assist loads, but he will connect the play. Eriksen can take the burden off Kane and Son, who together have an astounding 24 goals and 17 assists in the Prem already this season.
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Agree but this is on the premise that Eriksen plays the same as he did 2 or 3 years ago. His levels dropped with us and Conte doesn't trust or play him. Big gamble and possibly worth taking if it is a loan until the end of the season.
posted on 19/1/21
It bothered either way about Dele
No to Eriksen
posted on 19/1/21
Sell Dele and bring in someone better than Eriksen and Dele
posted on 19/1/21
Then we will be better
posted on 19/1/21
If Eriksen comes he would play instead of Ndombele ,can't see Maurinho playing both, so are we better?
posted on 19/1/21
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comment by MKspur ツ - The Fountain of Knowledge (U9129)
posted 3 hours, 9 minutes ago
We will be better as eriksen will get on the pitch where dele doesn’t.
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This
As always when it comes to Jose, the moves you make tend to only make sense within the context of Jose
posted on 19/1/21
Dropped 10 from winning positions I think. That’s not good at all. Even half of them converted into wins and we’d be well in it
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posted on 19/1/21
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Tarrico_sees_red (U5595)
posted 2 minutes ago
Dropped 10 from winning positions I think. That’s not good at all. Even half of them converted into wins and we’d be well in it
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Makes you sick doesn’t it.
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It does and it’s gutting, but look on the other side of the coin, we are 8 points better off this same time last season. Those ridiculous draws we should of won would of put us comfortably top. It’s Spurs though and it’s what we do.
posted on 19/1/21
Not for me I dont want him back and dont think Jose will either.
Jose loves players who work and tackle to win the ball back so why would he want Eriksen who shirks tackles left right and centre.
For the sort of money Eriksen would want there must be better out there.
And before you all jump up and down and scream at me about his talent, I wont argue against Eriksen who has fantastic ability but he has no heart and no bottle and for me thats a big no.
posted on 19/1/21
comment by Ace (U22467)
posted 32 minutes ago
_________Hugo
Aurier—Toby__Dier—Reggie
__Ndombele_Hoijbjerg
Bergwjin__Eriksen___Son
_________Kane
Would be the team I’d want to see if this happened. If it doesn’t happen, I’d want to see that same team but with Dele or GLC in Eriksens position. What I don’t want to see, except for against the very best oppo or when we’re closing games out, is Sissoko, Winks and PEH all on the same pitch.
I have mixed feeling about CE coming back as it means bringing back another older, of form player hoping they can rekindle some long lost magic - a strategy than rarely works. But as someone said above, swapping him for Dele is essentially gaining a player as Dele can’t even get in the squad now. So on that basis I’d say fack it, he’s a creator of chances - if we could get him on loan and see what he can do it might not be a bad thing.
Worryingly for me Winks also can’t get in the squad, but Gedson can. And, Toby has been behind Sanchez and Roden in the last 2 PL games. I’m concerned about what is going on behind the scenes and some of Jose’s decision making which is starting to get, frankly, bizarre.
The frustration is that this league is wide open and if we’d had the gumption to consolidate some of those leads we’d had instead of trying to defend them for dear life we could be top of the table. We don’t have enough talent in the squad to do a City/Liverpool and accurately 95+ points. But that’s not gonna be needed this year, probably looking at 80-85 and we do have the talent to get to that level if it was used correctly. Problem is that now with so many stupidly dropped points the chance has come and gone, and a dogfight for top 4 is all we have to look forward to.
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Perfectly put
posted on 19/1/21
Everyone seems to have lost sight of the fact that this would be a loan if anything at all. Try before you buy on a player that's proven in the league, is in the top 5 assist makers of the last 7 years and would know the game of each player in our current squad. I find it weird that there are supporters that wouldn't take a punt on that.
The alternative is someone untested in the Prem with no real pedigree at the price range we can afford. Eriksen is the best we can get, and one thing we have on our side, it sounds like he wants back in.
If we don't get him he could end up at United or Arsenal and the latter fills me with dread.
posted on 19/1/21
Strange one if it happens as on the face of it seems like a fairly good deal if its a loan and Inter pay 30%+ of his wages.
Will always love Eriksen an absolute assist machine in his prime the trouble is that was 3 years ago. Conte is of the same mould as Jose so not sure how that pans out but presume Jose is pushing for this deal.
Fitness also a concern as he has hardly played and only half the season left (plenty of games though).
I suppose if Dele is out then its a player that can fit in quickly (fitness permitting)
posted on 19/1/21
“ Will always love Eriksen an absolute assist machine in his prime the trouble is that was 3 years ago”
The 18/19 season so 6 months before he left was his best season with us. 27 goal contributions ( 10 goals & 17 assists ).
posted on 19/1/21
Second best season*
posted on 19/1/21
comment by grandspurs (U3810)
posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
Not for me I dont want him back and dont think Jose will either.
Jose loves players who work and tackle to win the ball back so why would he want Eriksen who shirks tackles left right and centre.
For the sort of money Eriksen would want there must be better out there.
And before you all jump up and down and scream at me about his talent, I wont argue against Eriksen who has fantastic ability but he has no heart and no bottle and for me thats a big no.
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Eriksen was always one of the hardest working players, fair enough he did shirk a tackle, but he is an intelligent footballer and was very clever in his pressing and cutting off the oppositions passing. He did a lot of hard work that went unnoticed by most, he wasn`t at the top of the running stats for nothing.
When Eriksen left the team, the drop off in our ability to play quick passing football was there for all to see, he made us tick and our team is still lacking a player like that now.
Having cloggers like Sissoko as the first name on the team sheet will get us nowhere.
posted on 19/1/21
I don't think we'll get Eriksen back seeing as Inter don't seem keen to negotiate. First Skriniar, now the loan fee which apparently only applies to us. Even if we do he'll not be properly match fit anyway.
If Dele goes it's because he doesn't want to fight for his place. I don't see the point in a loan in that case. We either sell or have a sale agreed in the deal. Buy someone better with the money.
posted on 19/1/21
Who could blame Dele for not wanting to fight for his place, he has probably been trying that all season and got nowhere, while at the same time he sees unproductive dross getting undeserved starts ahead of him, there is now wonder he will have lost all desire to fight.
Dele does not fit with Mourinho`s brand of football, he wants him out so he can bring in a more defensive player, it`s as simple as that. All this nonsense about earning your place in the team is just a smokescreen, there are several other players who have not earned a place in the team and yet they continue to be picked, some of them even broke covid rules and they are still picked, which is hardly consistent or fair.
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