Its a stupid rule. Happened to us once against Spurs when the ball went through Lovren legs when Kane was offside but because Lovren touched is slightly he was onside and then Kane dived and got a pen.
Apparently not.
But this is what happens when people try to make a 'level playing field' and they want 'consistency'.
What they really means is that we remove any subjectivity from the game and all common sense is lost.
If people think that improves the game then so be it.
I certainly don't.
Mings controls the ball and is tackled. Seems harsh, but don't think that's offside for me.
I think he was tackled mid way through controlling it tbf, as part of the same phase or whatever.
comment by Mike. (U1170)
posted 1 minute ago
I think he was tackled mid way through controlling it tbf, as part of the same phase or whatever.
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Exactly this.
If Mings had gone to head the ball and been challenged by Rodri then it'd be offside.
So the officials are saying that because Mings had had one touch, in a split second Rodri becomes onside - despite him already having made his move towards the ball.
It's just absurd.
Moss is a very incompetent ref. Looks overweight and always not up to speed with play.
Had the decision gone the other way and ruled offside there would be no complaints as highlighted in the Juventus game yday :
https://twitter.com/mrjakehumphrey/status/1352035544742690816?s=19
But the rule does state :
A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball, including by deliberate handball, is not considered to have gained an advantage, unless it was a deliberate save by any opponent.
For me Moss got it wrong again. Rhodri did not "recieve" the ball as he came from behind Mings and nicked it. The goal should not have stood and the lino should have flagged.
Of course it's on side. What is unbelievable is that professional footballers and managers both being paid indecent amount of money don't actually know the rules.
We have all seen in the past goalkeepers roll the ball out only for an attacker come from behind them to take the ball away. What's the difference
Would we even be discussing this had it been a Liverpool or a united goal. I think not
"We have all seen in the past goalkeepers roll the ball out only for an attacker come from behind them to take the ball away. What's the difference"
Are you serious?
The difference is the ball hasn't been played forward.
"A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball"
The problem people have with this is that Rodri didn't receive the ball from Mings - he tackled him for it as he was controlling the ball.
comment by gone but never forgotten (U21659)
posted 1 minute ago
Of course it's on side. What is unbelievable is that professional footballers and managers both being paid indecent amount of money don't actually know the rules.
We have all seen in the past goalkeepers roll the ball out only for an attacker come from behind them to take the ball away. What's the difference
Would we even be discussing this had it been a Liverpool or a united goal. I think not
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comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 11 seconds ago
"A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball"
The problem people have with this is that Rodri didn't receive the ball from Mings - he tackled him for it as he was controlling the ball.
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Exactly but oil money buys you refs so what can you do?!
The written law says the goal stands and Rodri wasn't offside despite him being outside the stadium when the ball was played through. As soon as Mings touched it he was playing it in but he never knew Rodri was goal hanging and creeping up.
I'm never one to side with Michael Owen as a pundit usually but he was spot on last night. The rules need to change or this kind of thing will be repeated over and over by goal hangers.
Moss has history with Villa as a garbage ref too and seemed relieved not to anger Pep. Just another game ruined by controversy again.
The decision was 100% correct so as incompetent as Moss often is, he called this one absolutely right.
However, the rule is idiotic. But that's another matter.
comment by LukaBrasi LOL (U22178)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 11 seconds ago
"A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball"
The problem people have with this is that Rodri didn't receive the ball from Mings - he tackled him for it as he was controlling the ball.
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Exactly but oil money buys you refs so what can you do?!
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Sandy please read PhilspursFGR's last post and youll feel even more of a fool than usual
Remember the decision where RVP was deemed to have had the intention of playing a through ball but it was actually the defender who passed it back and went to a forward and they scored, then they gave offside, because RVP had the intention of playing it. But he didn't actually play it. Anyone remember?
comment by The scenes (U22442)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi LOL (U22178)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 11 seconds ago
"A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball"
The problem people have with this is that Rodri didn't receive the ball from Mings - he tackled him for it as he was controlling the ball.
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Exactly but oil money buys you refs so what can you do?!
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Sandy please read PhilspursFGR's last post and youll feel even more of a fool than usual
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Watch out David Ike is about LOL
He was offside by a country mile, grabbed the ball and set up Silva for his goal. How blatant can you get ? Scandalous
comment by LukaBrasi LOL (U22178)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by The scenes (U22442)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi LOL (U22178)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 11 seconds ago
"A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball"
The problem people have with this is that Rodri didn't receive the ball from Mings - he tackled him for it as he was controlling the ball.
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Exactly but oil money buys you refs so what can you do?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sandy please read PhilspursFGR's last post and youll feel even more of a fool than usual
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Watch out David Ike is about LOL
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Scenes definitely thinks you are Sandy mate
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 7 minutes ago
The decision was 100% correct so as incompetent as Moss often is, he called this one absolutely right.
However, the rule is idiotic. But that's another matter.
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Read my and Winston's comments. Case closed.
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by LukaBrasi LOL (U22178)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by The scenes (U22442)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi LOL (U22178)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 11 seconds ago
"A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball"
The problem people have with this is that Rodri didn't receive the ball from Mings - he tackled him for it as he was controlling the ball.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly but oil money buys you refs so what can you do?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sandy please read PhilspursFGR's last post and youll feel even more of a fool than usual
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Watch out David Ike is about LOL
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Scenes definitely thinks you are Sandy mate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He is becoming like Eminem's "Stan".
With this in mind, from this day forward until his last day I hereby rename TheScenes - TheStan or Stan. Take your pick LOL
Stan you ok mate?
Whether we think the rule is wrong or harsh is irrelevant really. The laws were applied correctly and the goal stood.
I think players being offside by their armpit hair, or goals being disallowed for accidentally touching someone’s arm in the build up are stupid rules. But while they are rules as long as they are enforced consistently then that’s the best case scenario.
comment by LukaBrasi LOL (U22178)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by LukaBrasi LOL (U22178)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by The scenes (U22442)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi LOL (U22178)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 11 seconds ago
"A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball"
The problem people have with this is that Rodri didn't receive the ball from Mings - he tackled him for it as he was controlling the ball.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly but oil money buys you refs so what can you do?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sandy please read PhilspursFGR's last post and youll feel even more of a fool than usual
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Watch out David Ike is about LOL
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Scenes definitely thinks you are Sandy mate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He is becoming like Eminem's "Stan".
With this in mind, from this day forward until his last day I hereby rename TheScenes - TheStan or Stan. Take your pick LOL
Stan you ok mate?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thought he was Utard?
I don't really know the rule, but sounds like because he controlled it he's not off?
Imo the rules need looking at because Rodri clearly gained an advantage from being offside. He was interfering with play whilst offside.
It annoys me generally when for example a cross comes in and the defender nods it out for a corner before the offside striker can get it, and a corner is given rather than offside.
You can't expect defenders to let the ball go when they think the striker is off, they just can't take the risk.
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by LukaBrasi LOL (U22178)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by LukaBrasi LOL (U22178)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by The scenes (U22442)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi LOL (U22178)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 11 seconds ago
"A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball"
The problem people have with this is that Rodri didn't receive the ball from Mings - he tackled him for it as he was controlling the ball.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly but oil money buys you refs so what can you do?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sandy please read PhilspursFGR's last post and youll feel even more of a fool than usual
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Watch out David Ike is about LOL
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Scenes definitely thinks you are Sandy mate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He is becoming like Eminem's "Stan".
With this in mind, from this day forward until his last day I hereby rename TheScenes - TheStan or Stan. Take your pick LOL
Stan you ok mate?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thought he was Utard?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He is a master of disguise Don. Don't be fooled by him LOL
Shalom Don
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posted on 21/1/21
It's offside. Simple.
posted on 21/1/21
Its a stupid rule. Happened to us once against Spurs when the ball went through Lovren legs when Kane was offside but because Lovren touched is slightly he was onside and then Kane dived and got a pen.
posted on 21/1/21
Apparently not.
But this is what happens when people try to make a 'level playing field' and they want 'consistency'.
What they really means is that we remove any subjectivity from the game and all common sense is lost.
If people think that improves the game then so be it.
I certainly don't.
posted on 21/1/21
Mings controls the ball and is tackled. Seems harsh, but don't think that's offside for me.
posted on 21/1/21
I think he was tackled mid way through controlling it tbf, as part of the same phase or whatever.
posted on 21/1/21
comment by Mike. (U1170)
posted 1 minute ago
I think he was tackled mid way through controlling it tbf, as part of the same phase or whatever.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly this.
If Mings had gone to head the ball and been challenged by Rodri then it'd be offside.
So the officials are saying that because Mings had had one touch, in a split second Rodri becomes onside - despite him already having made his move towards the ball.
It's just absurd.
posted on 21/1/21
Moss is a very incompetent ref. Looks overweight and always not up to speed with play.
Had the decision gone the other way and ruled offside there would be no complaints as highlighted in the Juventus game yday :
https://twitter.com/mrjakehumphrey/status/1352035544742690816?s=19
But the rule does state :
A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball, including by deliberate handball, is not considered to have gained an advantage, unless it was a deliberate save by any opponent.
For me Moss got it wrong again. Rhodri did not "recieve" the ball as he came from behind Mings and nicked it. The goal should not have stood and the lino should have flagged.
posted on 21/1/21
Of course it's on side. What is unbelievable is that professional footballers and managers both being paid indecent amount of money don't actually know the rules.
We have all seen in the past goalkeepers roll the ball out only for an attacker come from behind them to take the ball away. What's the difference
Would we even be discussing this had it been a Liverpool or a united goal. I think not
posted on 21/1/21
"We have all seen in the past goalkeepers roll the ball out only for an attacker come from behind them to take the ball away. What's the difference"
Are you serious?
The difference is the ball hasn't been played forward.
posted on 21/1/21
"A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball"
The problem people have with this is that Rodri didn't receive the ball from Mings - he tackled him for it as he was controlling the ball.
posted on 21/1/21
comment by gone but never forgotten (U21659)
posted 1 minute ago
Of course it's on side. What is unbelievable is that professional footballers and managers both being paid indecent amount of money don't actually know the rules.
We have all seen in the past goalkeepers roll the ball out only for an attacker come from behind them to take the ball away. What's the difference
Would we even be discussing this had it been a Liverpool or a united goal. I think not
----------------------------------------------------------------------
posted on 21/1/21
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 11 seconds ago
"A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball"
The problem people have with this is that Rodri didn't receive the ball from Mings - he tackled him for it as he was controlling the ball.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly but oil money buys you refs so what can you do?!
posted on 21/1/21
The written law says the goal stands and Rodri wasn't offside despite him being outside the stadium when the ball was played through. As soon as Mings touched it he was playing it in but he never knew Rodri was goal hanging and creeping up.
I'm never one to side with Michael Owen as a pundit usually but he was spot on last night. The rules need to change or this kind of thing will be repeated over and over by goal hangers.
Moss has history with Villa as a garbage ref too and seemed relieved not to anger Pep. Just another game ruined by controversy again.
posted on 21/1/21
The decision was 100% correct so as incompetent as Moss often is, he called this one absolutely right.
However, the rule is idiotic. But that's another matter.
posted on 21/1/21
comment by LukaBrasi LOL (U22178)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 11 seconds ago
"A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball"
The problem people have with this is that Rodri didn't receive the ball from Mings - he tackled him for it as he was controlling the ball.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly but oil money buys you refs so what can you do?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sandy please read PhilspursFGR's last post and youll feel even more of a fool than usual
posted on 21/1/21
Remember the decision where RVP was deemed to have had the intention of playing a through ball but it was actually the defender who passed it back and went to a forward and they scored, then they gave offside, because RVP had the intention of playing it. But he didn't actually play it. Anyone remember?
posted on 21/1/21
comment by The scenes (U22442)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi LOL (U22178)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 11 seconds ago
"A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball"
The problem people have with this is that Rodri didn't receive the ball from Mings - he tackled him for it as he was controlling the ball.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly but oil money buys you refs so what can you do?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sandy please read PhilspursFGR's last post and youll feel even more of a fool than usual
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Watch out David Ike is about LOL
posted on 21/1/21
He was offside by a country mile, grabbed the ball and set up Silva for his goal. How blatant can you get ? Scandalous
posted on 21/1/21
comment by LukaBrasi LOL (U22178)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by The scenes (U22442)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi LOL (U22178)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 11 seconds ago
"A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball"
The problem people have with this is that Rodri didn't receive the ball from Mings - he tackled him for it as he was controlling the ball.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly but oil money buys you refs so what can you do?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sandy please read PhilspursFGR's last post and youll feel even more of a fool than usual
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Watch out David Ike is about LOL
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Scenes definitely thinks you are Sandy mate
posted on 21/1/21
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 7 minutes ago
The decision was 100% correct so as incompetent as Moss often is, he called this one absolutely right.
However, the rule is idiotic. But that's another matter.
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Read my and Winston's comments. Case closed.
posted on 21/1/21
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by LukaBrasi LOL (U22178)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by The scenes (U22442)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi LOL (U22178)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 11 seconds ago
"A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball"
The problem people have with this is that Rodri didn't receive the ball from Mings - he tackled him for it as he was controlling the ball.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly but oil money buys you refs so what can you do?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sandy please read PhilspursFGR's last post and youll feel even more of a fool than usual
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Watch out David Ike is about LOL
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Scenes definitely thinks you are Sandy mate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He is becoming like Eminem's "Stan".
With this in mind, from this day forward until his last day I hereby rename TheScenes - TheStan or Stan. Take your pick LOL
Stan you ok mate?
posted on 21/1/21
Whether we think the rule is wrong or harsh is irrelevant really. The laws were applied correctly and the goal stood.
I think players being offside by their armpit hair, or goals being disallowed for accidentally touching someone’s arm in the build up are stupid rules. But while they are rules as long as they are enforced consistently then that’s the best case scenario.
posted on 21/1/21
comment by LukaBrasi LOL (U22178)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by LukaBrasi LOL (U22178)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by The scenes (U22442)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi LOL (U22178)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 11 seconds ago
"A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball"
The problem people have with this is that Rodri didn't receive the ball from Mings - he tackled him for it as he was controlling the ball.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly but oil money buys you refs so what can you do?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sandy please read PhilspursFGR's last post and youll feel even more of a fool than usual
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Watch out David Ike is about LOL
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Scenes definitely thinks you are Sandy mate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He is becoming like Eminem's "Stan".
With this in mind, from this day forward until his last day I hereby rename TheScenes - TheStan or Stan. Take your pick LOL
Stan you ok mate?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thought he was Utard?
posted on 21/1/21
I don't really know the rule, but sounds like because he controlled it he's not off?
Imo the rules need looking at because Rodri clearly gained an advantage from being offside. He was interfering with play whilst offside.
It annoys me generally when for example a cross comes in and the defender nods it out for a corner before the offside striker can get it, and a corner is given rather than offside.
You can't expect defenders to let the ball go when they think the striker is off, they just can't take the risk.
posted on 21/1/21
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by LukaBrasi LOL (U22178)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by LukaBrasi LOL (U22178)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by The scenes (U22442)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi LOL (U22178)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 11 seconds ago
"A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball"
The problem people have with this is that Rodri didn't receive the ball from Mings - he tackled him for it as he was controlling the ball.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly but oil money buys you refs so what can you do?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sandy please read PhilspursFGR's last post and youll feel even more of a fool than usual
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Watch out David Ike is about LOL
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Scenes definitely thinks you are Sandy mate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He is becoming like Eminem's "Stan".
With this in mind, from this day forward until his last day I hereby rename TheScenes - TheStan or Stan. Take your pick LOL
Stan you ok mate?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thought he was Utard?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He is a master of disguise Don. Don't be fooled by him LOL
Shalom Don
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