Saw that in real time yesterday on MOTD. And foul was other way round and Gundogan kicked Hojbjerg and fell over.
Surprised it wasn’t even debated by the panel.
I would have to see it again but from the one replay I saw yesterday it looked iffy to me and indeed more of a Gundogan foul on Hojbjerg. Yet it seemed unanimous from the officials, commentators and pundits I was listening to that it was a pen.
Looked like a penalty to me.
I barely glance up from my phone when watching spurs these days, but looked a pen to me.
Made absolutely no difference to the game either way.
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As a neutral, I have to say that Spurs were done over there !
and these pundits are an absolute waste a lot of the time .
comment by MKspur ツ - We remember (U9129)
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Seems conclusive from that. Gundogan made the contact first.
just another case of var getting it wrong. i almost expect it now.
Never a penalty. It was a coming together where you can't tell who actually made the contact.
Not a pen for me but these days who knows.
I think most did see it and still thought it was a penalty given the angle and speed Hojbjerg was running in at. If the same foot that Gundogan makes contact with Hojbjerg with is then taken out by Hojbjergs left foot, he’s clearly far too square and coming in too quickly.
Ref gave it so VAR will protect the ref and hide under clear and obvious.
I didn’t pay much attention at the time and so assumed it was nailed on, but that clearly shows it shouldn’t have been given. Bearing in mind they hadn’t had a shot on target by that point who knows what difference it might’ve made, we could possibly have bored our way to a draw!
Should have been a free kick to us, o well one more nail in Jose coffin.
Would’ve made no difference to the result but yeah, it’s a foul on Hojbjerg or a goal kick
Still thought he was clumsy. You could just tell what was going to happen. He’s unlucky.
He looks knackered and a bit frazzled. He and Kane are basically carrying the team. At least he takes that responsibility.
I'll take another look then as I thought it was nailed on.
I can’t believe VAR didn’t pick that up though - when you think of the extremes they go to on offside
Whether it was or it wasn’t, it doesn’t come close to righting the appalling wrong of the CL quarter final
comment by Tarrico_sees_red (U5595)
posted 5 minutes ago
I can’t believe VAR didn’t pick that up though - when you think of the extremes they go to on offside
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What's worse is none of the pundits pick up on it. No mention of it on MOTD. That just tells you that there will always be errors with VAR so long as we let humans judge it, no matter how good they are.
Other pundits did pick it up though.
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 7 minutes ago
Other pundits did pick it up though.
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That's fair enough, but the fact there were some pundits and commentators who didn't despite the access to slow mo replays is worrying.
comment by joeymancityz. (U4783)
posted 14 minutes ago
Whether it was or it wasn’t, it doesn’t come close to righting the appalling wrong of the CL quarter final
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It sure this is a wum, but what are you referring to ?
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 7 minutes ago
Other pundits did pick it up though.
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That's fair enough, but the fact there were some pundits and commentators who didn't despite the access to slow mo replays is worrying.
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I get it to an extent, but they may have just realised it’s a nonsensical argument and so not relevant.
They weren’t equal, Gundogan was ahead of Hojbjerg. That he made contact with him whilst in the act of turning and Hojbjergs other leg also made contact with the leg of Gundogans that caught him is further reason to give it, not less, as it shows he was coming in at completely the wrong angle.
If it’s a case of arguing Hojbjergs leg was there first, think about what that would mean for a lot of other fouls. It’s not just about the contact, it’s the positioning of the players and their actions up to it too. Gundogan got a bit lucky in that he didn’t control it at all anyway, but that doesn’t change Hojbjerg coming in way too square and at speed.
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posted on 14/2/21
Saw that in real time yesterday on MOTD. And foul was other way round and Gundogan kicked Hojbjerg and fell over.
Surprised it wasn’t even debated by the panel.
posted on 14/2/21
I would have to see it again but from the one replay I saw yesterday it looked iffy to me and indeed more of a Gundogan foul on Hojbjerg. Yet it seemed unanimous from the officials, commentators and pundits I was listening to that it was a pen.
posted on 14/2/21
Looked like a penalty to me.
posted on 14/2/21
I barely glance up from my phone when watching spurs these days, but looked a pen to me.
Made absolutely no difference to the game either way.
posted on 14/2/21
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posted on 14/2/21
As a neutral, I have to say that Spurs were done over there !
and these pundits are an absolute waste a lot of the time .
posted on 14/2/21
comment by MKspur ツ - We remember (U9129)
posted 14 minutes ago
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Seems conclusive from that. Gundogan made the contact first.
posted on 14/2/21
just another case of var getting it wrong. i almost expect it now.
posted on 14/2/21
Never a penalty. It was a coming together where you can't tell who actually made the contact.
posted on 14/2/21
Not a pen for me but these days who knows.
posted on 14/2/21
I think most did see it and still thought it was a penalty given the angle and speed Hojbjerg was running in at. If the same foot that Gundogan makes contact with Hojbjerg with is then taken out by Hojbjergs left foot, he’s clearly far too square and coming in too quickly.
posted on 14/2/21
Ref gave it so VAR will protect the ref and hide under clear and obvious.
posted on 14/2/21
I didn’t pay much attention at the time and so assumed it was nailed on, but that clearly shows it shouldn’t have been given. Bearing in mind they hadn’t had a shot on target by that point who knows what difference it might’ve made, we could possibly have bored our way to a draw!
posted on 14/2/21
Should have been a free kick to us, o well one more nail in Jose coffin.
posted on 14/2/21
Would’ve made no difference to the result but yeah, it’s a foul on Hojbjerg or a goal kick
posted on 14/2/21
Still thought he was clumsy. You could just tell what was going to happen. He’s unlucky.
He looks knackered and a bit frazzled. He and Kane are basically carrying the team. At least he takes that responsibility.
posted on 14/2/21
I'll take another look then as I thought it was nailed on.
posted on 14/2/21
I can’t believe VAR didn’t pick that up though - when you think of the extremes they go to on offside
posted on 14/2/21
Whether it was or it wasn’t, it doesn’t come close to righting the appalling wrong of the CL quarter final
posted on 14/2/21
comment by Tarrico_sees_red (U5595)
posted 5 minutes ago
I can’t believe VAR didn’t pick that up though - when you think of the extremes they go to on offside
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What's worse is none of the pundits pick up on it. No mention of it on MOTD. That just tells you that there will always be errors with VAR so long as we let humans judge it, no matter how good they are.
posted on 14/2/21
Other pundits did pick it up though.
posted on 14/2/21
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 7 minutes ago
Other pundits did pick it up though.
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That's fair enough, but the fact there were some pundits and commentators who didn't despite the access to slow mo replays is worrying.
posted on 14/2/21
comment by joeymancityz. (U4783)
posted 14 minutes ago
Whether it was or it wasn’t, it doesn’t come close to righting the appalling wrong of the CL quarter final
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It sure this is a wum, but what are you referring to ?
posted on 14/2/21
*Not sure
posted on 14/2/21
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 7 minutes ago
Other pundits did pick it up though.
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That's fair enough, but the fact there were some pundits and commentators who didn't despite the access to slow mo replays is worrying.
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I get it to an extent, but they may have just realised it’s a nonsensical argument and so not relevant.
They weren’t equal, Gundogan was ahead of Hojbjerg. That he made contact with him whilst in the act of turning and Hojbjergs other leg also made contact with the leg of Gundogans that caught him is further reason to give it, not less, as it shows he was coming in at completely the wrong angle.
If it’s a case of arguing Hojbjergs leg was there first, think about what that would mean for a lot of other fouls. It’s not just about the contact, it’s the positioning of the players and their actions up to it too. Gundogan got a bit lucky in that he didn’t control it at all anyway, but that doesn’t change Hojbjerg coming in way too square and at speed.
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