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Best modern day goalie?

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posted on 24/2/21

Ederson and Alisson have earned the plaudits. Alisson usually being a world class shot stopper whereas Ederson was once (and probably still is) branded as "the midfielder between the sticks".

posted on 24/2/21

Ederson without a doubt now. Alisson despite his "cold feet" moment is still very good but Ederson is on another level.

Previously for us it used to be Pepe Reina who was excellent with his feet.

posted on 24/2/21

Alison isn’t great on the ball bar his long range distribution. Gotta be ederson in the pl. don’t want much overseas footy so can’t comment

posted on 24/2/21

The other day I read that Pep said Ederson is the best with his feet but wouldnt say who the best overall gk was.

This subject just sums up for m where football has lost something in the modern game imo. If you go back to the days of Seaman and Schmeichel a top gk was seen as someone who could do what is expected now and so much more on tip. these days it seems people rate a gk on saves and playing the ball with their feet. Ive seen loads of comments across forums that this is all that is expected of a gk.

In the past, and Seaman was rated one of the best ever for this, it included dominating the box, collecting crosses and passes, reading the game, controlling the defence, etc, etc. Ive been told a number of times these things dont really matter any more, often during the Leno or Emi as no. 1 debate.

Imo a gk should be the best at stopping the opposition scoring. The best gk playmaker is a bit like which winger is the best defender. That just leads to Willian starting every match being justified.

posted on 24/2/21

Stop goals thats your job as roy keane says, not start counters or pass 50yards, oblak is the best in the world and he doesnt f@nny about with trying to tika taka it

posted on 24/2/21

That's a difficult one. Valdez had an awful save ratio, let in far too many goals for the amount of shots faced. I think if you are talking keeper - distributor, Ederson is the best in the premier league. But as a keeper, I don't think he's as good as say Oblak. Ter Stegen is also a very good keeper but has the bad luck of being behind possibly the worst Barcelona team for a generation. Donnarumma is one who is very highly rated from the next generation and of course, Neuer is on his way out.

I don't think there are any great great keepers at present. The last one was Buffon and Casillas was fabulous for about 8 years. Cech was also a wonderful keeper until his injury. Many have promised - De Gea, Courtois, lloris - but they fall short. Others like Pope or Gulacsi play for unfashionable teams and get no mention.

posted on 24/2/21

Neuer has had plenty of mad moments, kinda like Alisson but makes more wow saves.

The best keeper in the game is Oblak. Hands down, best sweeper keeper is Neuer and the best purely on the ground Ederson.

posted on 24/2/21

comment by HB Fash - "like a pack of cards" (U21935)
posted 6 minutes ago
Neuer has had plenty of mad moments, kinda like Alisson but makes more wow saves.

The best keeper in the game is Oblak. Hands down, best sweeper keeper is Neuer and the best purely on the ground Ederson.
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I'd agree with this. Neuer does make more wow saves, Alisson probably makes "more important" saves if you judge that within the context of a game such as the Barcelona SF.

But I would agree Oblak is the best goalkeeper in the world right now.

posted on 24/2/21

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 53 minutes ago
Alison isn’t great on the ball bar his long range distribution. Gotta be ederson in the pl. don’t want much overseas footy so can’t comment
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disagree, he is and has been great, hes in some awful form with it atm though and was always capable of some brain farts but then again every keeper who takes as many risks will be.

Edersons been far more consistent with it and probably is better on the ball, more natural and nimble figure. Alisson if you watch penaltys is a unit not the most agile and can look stiff on the ball because of it.

Neuer before injuries was the leading gk for me in this department.

posted on 24/2/21

Oblaks brilliant but be interesting to see how he does in a different system, same with Pope of Burnley. Think theyre both well protected by their managers systems and teams, if some of thats taken away and theyre given more responsibilities on the ball or off their line etc.

posted on 24/2/21

Pope & Martinez...according to FF stats...I have both

posted on 24/2/21

comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 2 hours, 53 minutes ago
Stop goals thats your job as roy keane says, not start counters or pass 50yards, oblak is the best in the world and he doesnt f@nny about with trying to tika taka it
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Good lad

posted on 24/2/21

Probably the OG and one of the best 'footballing' goalies is Van der Sar. Cool as ice, organised his defense and knew when to quick throw/kick it and when to stop play and give his defense a breather. All that while stil dominating the box and playing it safe. Neuer while spectaculair is basically a Fabian Barthez with a much higher skill floor (not good for the trainer's heart, but I like it as a neutral :D)
I also don't agree that the modern keeper's job description is just stopping goals. You are the only player who has the whole game in front of you, so you should use those valuable insights to benefit your team both in defense (coaching) and offense (long passes, quick resume of play).
Besides, if you played in a pub league yourself, you hated that goalie that just lumped the ball forward and lost possession for the team every time. Imagine that and the opposition is Barca or City... Gl ball watching and chasing...

comment by Herbie (U7136)

posted on 25/2/21

comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 11 hours, 6 minutes ago
Stop goals thats your job as roy keane says, not start counters or pass 50yards, oblak is the best in the world and he doesnt f@nny about with trying to tika taka it
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This.

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