Choos where have you been hiding?
Yeah, it was a Turner, a big turner, and the likes of Agnew and Vaughan are yet again banging on about it not being fit for test cricket.
But not a word about the quality of decision making about shots is mentioned. Shocking batting all round but it didn't seem to affect Rohit Sharma too much. Head down, pick your shots and build your innings. It's a test match in India, it's what you have to do. It is not a showcase for the IPL.
Oh, and have the Indians and others never had to face a green seamer at Headingley or Trent Bridge?
There was something wrong with the pitch thiugh: otherwise India wouldn't have been skittled for 145 with Joe root taking 5 wickets.
You mean 3 of those 5 where tailenders were just trying to slog him for a quick few runs?
comment by theresgonnaebeashow (U5686)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
Yeah, it was a Turner, a big turner, and the likes of Agnew and Vaughan are yet again banging on about it not being fit for test cricket.
But not a word about the quality of decision making about shots is mentioned. Shocking batting all round but it didn't seem to affect Rohit Sharma too much. Head down, pick your shots and build your innings. It's a test match in India, it's what you have to do. It is not a showcase for the IPL.
Oh, and have the Indians and others never had to face a green seamer at Headingley or Trent Bridge?
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A pitch that ends the game in 5 and a bit sessions isn't fit for Test cricket though. If we produced a green seamer that ended in 5 sessions I'd be just as annoyed.
It was the shortest test since WWII, I don't think you can say it was purely due to poor batting from both sides.
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by theresgonnaebeashow (U5686)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
Yeah, it was a Turner, a big turner, and the likes of Agnew and Vaughan are yet again banging on about it not being fit for test cricket.
But not a word about the quality of decision making about shots is mentioned. Shocking batting all round but it didn't seem to affect Rohit Sharma too much. Head down, pick your shots and build your innings. It's a test match in India, it's what you have to do. It is not a showcase for the IPL.
Oh, and have the Indians and others never had to face a green seamer at Headingley or Trent Bridge?
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A pitch that ends the game in 5 and a bit sessions isn't fit for Test cricket though. If we produced a green seamer that ended in 5 sessions I'd be just as annoyed.
It was the shortest test since WWII, I don't think you can say it was purely due to poor batting from both sides.
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Go read the India tour of England in 2014 and tell me England don't doctor pitches?
Aug 2014 - ended in 2.5 days
Broad and Anderson took all wickets in the first inning, Ali pitched in with a few second (The test was pretty much)
Check Broad and Anderson's 5 wicket hauls and where they took place.
If you can;t stand the heat, get out the kitchen. Moan moan moan.....just to hide a very poor batting display
Good to see you back choosh, hope you will continue posting frequently
comment by Lefty (U17934)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by theresgonnaebeashow (U5686)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
Yeah, it was a Turner, a big turner, and the likes of Agnew and Vaughan are yet again banging on about it not being fit for test cricket.
But not a word about the quality of decision making about shots is mentioned. Shocking batting all round but it didn't seem to affect Rohit Sharma too much. Head down, pick your shots and build your innings. It's a test match in India, it's what you have to do. It is not a showcase for the IPL.
Oh, and have the Indians and others never had to face a green seamer at Headingley or Trent Bridge?
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A pitch that ends the game in 5 and a bit sessions isn't fit for Test cricket though. If we produced a green seamer that ended in 5 sessions I'd be just as annoyed.
It was the shortest test since WWII, I don't think you can say it was purely due to poor batting from both sides.
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Go read the India tour of England in 2014 and tell me England don't doctor pitches?
Aug 2014 - ended in 2.5 days
Broad and Anderson took all wickets in the first inning, Ali pitched in with a few second (The test was pretty much)
Check Broad and Anderson's 5 wicket hauls and where they took place.
If you can;t stand the heat, get out the kitchen. Moan moan moan.....just to hide a very poor batting display
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I literally just said I'd be just as annoyed if we produced a pitch that ended in 5 sessions so I really don't understand your point.
Preparing a pitch that suits your strengths is fine, that's the whole point of home advantage, preparing one that ends the game inside 2 days isn't.
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Lefty (U17934)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by theresgonnaebeashow (U5686)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
Yeah, it was a Turner, a big turner, and the likes of Agnew and Vaughan are yet again banging on about it not being fit for test cricket.
But not a word about the quality of decision making about shots is mentioned. Shocking batting all round but it didn't seem to affect Rohit Sharma too much. Head down, pick your shots and build your innings. It's a test match in India, it's what you have to do. It is not a showcase for the IPL.
Oh, and have the Indians and others never had to face a green seamer at Headingley or Trent Bridge?
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A pitch that ends the game in 5 and a bit sessions isn't fit for Test cricket though. If we produced a green seamer that ended in 5 sessions I'd be just as annoyed.
It was the shortest test since WWII, I don't think you can say it was purely due to poor batting from both sides.
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Go read the India tour of England in 2014 and tell me England don't doctor pitches?
Aug 2014 - ended in 2.5 days
Broad and Anderson took all wickets in the first inning, Ali pitched in with a few second (The test was pretty much)
Check Broad and Anderson's 5 wicket hauls and where they took place.
If you can;t stand the heat, get out the kitchen. Moan moan moan.....just to hide a very poor batting display
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I literally just said I'd be just as annoyed if we produced a pitch that ended in 5 sessions so I really don't understand your point.
Preparing a pitch that suits your strengths is fine, that's the whole point of home advantage, preparing one that ends the game inside 2 days isn't.
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I do think the Batsmen diden't help themselves either. You can;t JUST blame the pitch
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by theresgonnaebeashow (U5686)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
Yeah, it was a Turner, a big turner, and the likes of Agnew and Vaughan are yet again banging on about it not being fit for test cricket.
But not a word about the quality of decision making about shots is mentioned. Shocking batting all round but it didn't seem to affect Rohit Sharma too much. Head down, pick your shots and build your innings. It's a test match in India, it's what you have to do. It is not a showcase for the IPL.
Oh, and have the Indians and others never had to face a green seamer at Headingley or Trent Bridge?
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A pitch that ends the game in 5 and a bit sessions isn't fit for Test cricket though. If we produced a green seamer that ended in 5 sessions I'd be just as annoyed.
It was the shortest test since WWII, I don't think you can say it was purely due to poor batting from both sides.
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I agree the pitch was unlikely to see a fifth day. But better batting and a better choice of which ball to hit would have seen it last a lot longer than 5 and a bit sessions.
I repeat, Rohit Sharma didn't seem to have a massive problem with that.
Chooshan up to his usual nonsense.
Yuvi Singh after yesterday’s game, he’s spot on. Sure India fans won’t be saying it’s sour grapes from him??
finished in 2 days Not sure if that’s good for test cricket !If @anilkumble1074 and @harbhajan_singh bowled on these kind of wickets they would be sitting on a thousand and 800 ?🤔However congratulations to 🇮🇳 @akshar2026 what a spell! congratulations
The pitch was really bad. Shouldn't be turning square on day 1 or patches where it simply explodes. Same for both sides but its really bad for test cricket if it finishes on day 2.
Whatever or whichever way the pitch is presented both teams have to play on it.
AND England won the toss. So any perceived bowling/batting (dis)advantages that pitch presented, were clearly not well perceived by the toss-winning captain.
Nope. India outplayed their opponents.
India outplayed England just like the 2nd test in Chennai: but I have no complaints over the 2nd test in Chennai.
We wouldn't be having this debate if India scored 300+ in their first innings.
comment by Wilshere said it best (U21076)
posted 37 minutes ago
India outplayed England just like the 2nd test in Chennai: but I have no complaints over the 2nd test in Chennai.
We wouldn't be having this debate if India scored 300+ in their first innings.
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40 odd without loss in the final innings suggests one side dealt with the conditions better than the other.
Neutral should prepare pitches in India to mitigate risk of 2 -day or 3 day test cricket.
comment by THE WAR IS ON (U10140)
posted 15 hours, 35 minutes ago
Neutral should prepare pitches in India to mitigate risk of 2 -day or 3 day test cricket.
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Maybe batting should improve to achieve the same effect.
State of pitches are resulting in below par performance
A lack of technique, patience and application is major factor in below par performances. Comes from too much pyjama cricket.
If i'm honest the 3rd test was great to watch, literally every over something was happening.
People keep going on about root getting a 5 for but looking at the wickets he got 3 of them were just ugly slogs/shots. To me the India batters thought they could get quick runs off him and ended up looking like fools. If they just batted normally i don't think he would have got the 5.
Also a lot of people are stating the pink ball might have played a big part. Watching Simon Hughes after the test match talking about it makes me think it might well have done for quite a few batters with the ball skidding on.
The pitch was a disgrace, totally unsuitable for test match cricket, but some of the batting was awful also.
I haven't seen England making any excuses. On the contrary Leach even came out and said the media are making a big deal out of the pitch but they are just looking at working hard on their skills against quality spinners on turning pitches.
You can have a discussion about the pitch without it being the reason why a team lost or without it being bitterness. The pitch is often a major discussion point, whether it's a road, whether it's a dust bowl, whether it's a green top. You always have to factor conditions into performance whether that's to be positive or negative about a player or team.
The pitch was bad, England were bad, India bowled well and Rohit has shown his class in the last 2 test matches where the majority of others have failed badly.
To be fair, a lot of England fans have taken the defeat on the chin with minimal excuses .
Seeing a test match end in 2 days is the disappointment not so much losing.
comment by Bennythedip - Living The Dream (U9359)
posted 4 hours, 17 minutes ago
Seeing a test match end in 2 days is the disappointment not so much losing.
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posted on 26/2/21
Choos where have you been hiding?
posted on 26/2/21
Yeah, it was a Turner, a big turner, and the likes of Agnew and Vaughan are yet again banging on about it not being fit for test cricket.
But not a word about the quality of decision making about shots is mentioned. Shocking batting all round but it didn't seem to affect Rohit Sharma too much. Head down, pick your shots and build your innings. It's a test match in India, it's what you have to do. It is not a showcase for the IPL.
Oh, and have the Indians and others never had to face a green seamer at Headingley or Trent Bridge?
posted on 26/2/21
There was something wrong with the pitch thiugh: otherwise India wouldn't have been skittled for 145 with Joe root taking 5 wickets.
posted on 26/2/21
You mean 3 of those 5 where tailenders were just trying to slog him for a quick few runs?
posted on 26/2/21
comment by theresgonnaebeashow (U5686)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
Yeah, it was a Turner, a big turner, and the likes of Agnew and Vaughan are yet again banging on about it not being fit for test cricket.
But not a word about the quality of decision making about shots is mentioned. Shocking batting all round but it didn't seem to affect Rohit Sharma too much. Head down, pick your shots and build your innings. It's a test match in India, it's what you have to do. It is not a showcase for the IPL.
Oh, and have the Indians and others never had to face a green seamer at Headingley or Trent Bridge?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A pitch that ends the game in 5 and a bit sessions isn't fit for Test cricket though. If we produced a green seamer that ended in 5 sessions I'd be just as annoyed.
It was the shortest test since WWII, I don't think you can say it was purely due to poor batting from both sides.
posted on 26/2/21
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by theresgonnaebeashow (U5686)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
Yeah, it was a Turner, a big turner, and the likes of Agnew and Vaughan are yet again banging on about it not being fit for test cricket.
But not a word about the quality of decision making about shots is mentioned. Shocking batting all round but it didn't seem to affect Rohit Sharma too much. Head down, pick your shots and build your innings. It's a test match in India, it's what you have to do. It is not a showcase for the IPL.
Oh, and have the Indians and others never had to face a green seamer at Headingley or Trent Bridge?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A pitch that ends the game in 5 and a bit sessions isn't fit for Test cricket though. If we produced a green seamer that ended in 5 sessions I'd be just as annoyed.
It was the shortest test since WWII, I don't think you can say it was purely due to poor batting from both sides.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Go read the India tour of England in 2014 and tell me England don't doctor pitches?
Aug 2014 - ended in 2.5 days
Broad and Anderson took all wickets in the first inning, Ali pitched in with a few second (The test was pretty much)
Check Broad and Anderson's 5 wicket hauls and where they took place.
If you can;t stand the heat, get out the kitchen. Moan moan moan.....just to hide a very poor batting display
posted on 26/2/21
Good to see you back choosh, hope you will continue posting frequently
posted on 26/2/21
comment by Lefty (U17934)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by theresgonnaebeashow (U5686)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
Yeah, it was a Turner, a big turner, and the likes of Agnew and Vaughan are yet again banging on about it not being fit for test cricket.
But not a word about the quality of decision making about shots is mentioned. Shocking batting all round but it didn't seem to affect Rohit Sharma too much. Head down, pick your shots and build your innings. It's a test match in India, it's what you have to do. It is not a showcase for the IPL.
Oh, and have the Indians and others never had to face a green seamer at Headingley or Trent Bridge?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A pitch that ends the game in 5 and a bit sessions isn't fit for Test cricket though. If we produced a green seamer that ended in 5 sessions I'd be just as annoyed.
It was the shortest test since WWII, I don't think you can say it was purely due to poor batting from both sides.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Go read the India tour of England in 2014 and tell me England don't doctor pitches?
Aug 2014 - ended in 2.5 days
Broad and Anderson took all wickets in the first inning, Ali pitched in with a few second (The test was pretty much)
Check Broad and Anderson's 5 wicket hauls and where they took place.
If you can;t stand the heat, get out the kitchen. Moan moan moan.....just to hide a very poor batting display
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I literally just said I'd be just as annoyed if we produced a pitch that ended in 5 sessions so I really don't understand your point.
Preparing a pitch that suits your strengths is fine, that's the whole point of home advantage, preparing one that ends the game inside 2 days isn't.
posted on 26/2/21
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Lefty (U17934)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by theresgonnaebeashow (U5686)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
Yeah, it was a Turner, a big turner, and the likes of Agnew and Vaughan are yet again banging on about it not being fit for test cricket.
But not a word about the quality of decision making about shots is mentioned. Shocking batting all round but it didn't seem to affect Rohit Sharma too much. Head down, pick your shots and build your innings. It's a test match in India, it's what you have to do. It is not a showcase for the IPL.
Oh, and have the Indians and others never had to face a green seamer at Headingley or Trent Bridge?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A pitch that ends the game in 5 and a bit sessions isn't fit for Test cricket though. If we produced a green seamer that ended in 5 sessions I'd be just as annoyed.
It was the shortest test since WWII, I don't think you can say it was purely due to poor batting from both sides.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Go read the India tour of England in 2014 and tell me England don't doctor pitches?
Aug 2014 - ended in 2.5 days
Broad and Anderson took all wickets in the first inning, Ali pitched in with a few second (The test was pretty much)
Check Broad and Anderson's 5 wicket hauls and where they took place.
If you can;t stand the heat, get out the kitchen. Moan moan moan.....just to hide a very poor batting display
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I literally just said I'd be just as annoyed if we produced a pitch that ended in 5 sessions so I really don't understand your point.
Preparing a pitch that suits your strengths is fine, that's the whole point of home advantage, preparing one that ends the game inside 2 days isn't.
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I do think the Batsmen diden't help themselves either. You can;t JUST blame the pitch
posted on 26/2/21
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by theresgonnaebeashow (U5686)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
Yeah, it was a Turner, a big turner, and the likes of Agnew and Vaughan are yet again banging on about it not being fit for test cricket.
But not a word about the quality of decision making about shots is mentioned. Shocking batting all round but it didn't seem to affect Rohit Sharma too much. Head down, pick your shots and build your innings. It's a test match in India, it's what you have to do. It is not a showcase for the IPL.
Oh, and have the Indians and others never had to face a green seamer at Headingley or Trent Bridge?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A pitch that ends the game in 5 and a bit sessions isn't fit for Test cricket though. If we produced a green seamer that ended in 5 sessions I'd be just as annoyed.
It was the shortest test since WWII, I don't think you can say it was purely due to poor batting from both sides.
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I agree the pitch was unlikely to see a fifth day. But better batting and a better choice of which ball to hit would have seen it last a lot longer than 5 and a bit sessions.
I repeat, Rohit Sharma didn't seem to have a massive problem with that.
posted on 26/2/21
Chooshan up to his usual nonsense.
Yuvi Singh after yesterday’s game, he’s spot on. Sure India fans won’t be saying it’s sour grapes from him??
finished in 2 days Not sure if that’s good for test cricket !If @anilkumble1074 and @harbhajan_singh bowled on these kind of wickets they would be sitting on a thousand and 800 ?🤔However congratulations to 🇮🇳 @akshar2026 what a spell! congratulations
posted on 26/2/21
The pitch was really bad. Shouldn't be turning square on day 1 or patches where it simply explodes. Same for both sides but its really bad for test cricket if it finishes on day 2.
posted on 27/2/21
Whatever or whichever way the pitch is presented both teams have to play on it.
AND England won the toss. So any perceived bowling/batting (dis)advantages that pitch presented, were clearly not well perceived by the toss-winning captain.
Nope. India outplayed their opponents.
posted on 27/2/21
India outplayed England just like the 2nd test in Chennai: but I have no complaints over the 2nd test in Chennai.
We wouldn't be having this debate if India scored 300+ in their first innings.
posted on 27/2/21
comment by Wilshere said it best (U21076)
posted 37 minutes ago
India outplayed England just like the 2nd test in Chennai: but I have no complaints over the 2nd test in Chennai.
We wouldn't be having this debate if India scored 300+ in their first innings.
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40 odd without loss in the final innings suggests one side dealt with the conditions better than the other.
posted on 28/2/21
Neutral should prepare pitches in India to mitigate risk of 2 -day or 3 day test cricket.
posted on 1/3/21
comment by THE WAR IS ON (U10140)
posted 15 hours, 35 minutes ago
Neutral should prepare pitches in India to mitigate risk of 2 -day or 3 day test cricket.
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Maybe batting should improve to achieve the same effect.
posted on 1/3/21
State of pitches are resulting in below par performance
posted on 1/3/21
A lack of technique, patience and application is major factor in below par performances. Comes from too much pyjama cricket.
posted on 2/3/21
If i'm honest the 3rd test was great to watch, literally every over something was happening.
People keep going on about root getting a 5 for but looking at the wickets he got 3 of them were just ugly slogs/shots. To me the India batters thought they could get quick runs off him and ended up looking like fools. If they just batted normally i don't think he would have got the 5.
Also a lot of people are stating the pink ball might have played a big part. Watching Simon Hughes after the test match talking about it makes me think it might well have done for quite a few batters with the ball skidding on.
posted on 2/3/21
The pitch was a disgrace, totally unsuitable for test match cricket, but some of the batting was awful also.
posted on 2/3/21
I haven't seen England making any excuses. On the contrary Leach even came out and said the media are making a big deal out of the pitch but they are just looking at working hard on their skills against quality spinners on turning pitches.
You can have a discussion about the pitch without it being the reason why a team lost or without it being bitterness. The pitch is often a major discussion point, whether it's a road, whether it's a dust bowl, whether it's a green top. You always have to factor conditions into performance whether that's to be positive or negative about a player or team.
The pitch was bad, England were bad, India bowled well and Rohit has shown his class in the last 2 test matches where the majority of others have failed badly.
posted on 3/3/21
To be fair, a lot of England fans have taken the defeat on the chin with minimal excuses .
posted on 3/3/21
Seeing a test match end in 2 days is the disappointment not so much losing.
posted on 3/3/21
comment by Bennythedip - Living The Dream (U9359)
posted 4 hours, 17 minutes ago
Seeing a test match end in 2 days is the disappointment not so much losing.
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Agreed
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