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£340k PLUS Legal Costs. A Fvcking Disgrace.

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posted on 5/3/21

comment by HB Fash - "like a pack of cards" (U21935)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
Labour openly said it was £83bn - all accounted for by tax rises. Tories claimed the real cost was £1.2trn.

Anyways, according to gov data we've performed 90m covid tests - presumably paid for by the current £22bn? On testing alone that would equate to £244 per test. As private PCR tests are around £120 once you throw in the tracing it maybe doesn't seem such a stretch? Of course much of the testing is cheaper lateral flow at £10-30 though I think positoves are followed up with PCR?

Dunno - I'd be more suspicious of folk claiming some countries are doing it all for a few million.
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/testing

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Don’t for goodness sake.

Let them enjoy their daily redtop rag highlights. They believe them bless.

The fact that we are by far the most successful country in getting out of a worldwide pandemic has zero interest to them when they can bandy around numbers you can’t even put on a calculator far less have an inkling as to what the number should be.
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New Zealand? Australia?
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Debunked on every single occasion but keep on mentioning these country’s names at every turn.

It’s amazing how every other country didn’t just follow them isn’t it?

posted on 5/3/21

comment by Zachsda( He’s gone, the shark throwers h... (U1850)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
Labour openly said it was £83bn - all accounted for by tax rises. Tories claimed the real cost was £1.2trn.

Anyways, according to gov data we've performed 90m covid tests - presumably paid for by the current £22bn? On testing alone that would equate to £244 per test. As private PCR tests are around £120 once you throw in the tracing it maybe doesn't seem such a stretch? Of course much of the testing is cheaper lateral flow at £10-30 though I think positoves are followed up with PCR?

Dunno - I'd be more suspicious of folk claiming some countries are doing it all for a few million.
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/testing

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Don’t for goodness sake.

Let them enjoy their daily redtop rag highlights. They believe them bless.

The fact that we are by far the most successful country in getting out of a worldwide pandemic has zero interest to them when they can bandy around numbers you can’t even put on a calculator far less have an inkling as to what the number should be.
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The Govt have fooked up from the start
That the vaccine roll out is going well is their get out of jail card
Had Starmer not been an obsequious coont maybe labour could have held them to account
He opposed lime Lena Zavarroni wrestling Michelle McManus
Fud of a man
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Hindsight being a wonderful thing of course.

Like many we are straight in to criticise like we all knew better but the processes and thoughts along with funding that went into getting our vaccines was just luck

posted on 5/3/21

I pay significantly less than £120 for PCR tests due to the scale I operate at. The government should have a significantly lower rate than me.

The track and trace should be the cheapest part not the most expensive. A few quid per contact.

Madness if you think those numbers are ok

posted on 5/3/21

It's probably worth noting that on the link you have provided it says they include lateral flow (not part of test track and trace programme) which you rightly say are significantly cheaper.

It's worth noting that last week the government have sent millions of lateral flow test kits to businesses to operate their own scheme which will no doubt be included in this number. Businesses have to pay all costs (staff, premises and set up) except the test kits. No follow up PCR in the government lateral flow scheme only in other private business schemes.

It's a great scheme and a good idea, especially for businesses that have struggled to procure kits. It will absolutely be inflating the government numbers though

posted on 5/3/21

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Zachsda( He’s gone, the shark throwers h... (U1850)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
Labour openly said it was £83bn - all accounted for by tax rises. Tories claimed the real cost was £1.2trn.

Anyways, according to gov data we've performed 90m covid tests - presumably paid for by the current £22bn? On testing alone that would equate to £244 per test. As private PCR tests are around £120 once you throw in the tracing it maybe doesn't seem such a stretch? Of course much of the testing is cheaper lateral flow at £10-30 though I think positoves are followed up with PCR?

Dunno - I'd be more suspicious of folk claiming some countries are doing it all for a few million.
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/testing

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Don’t for goodness sake.

Let them enjoy their daily redtop rag highlights. They believe them bless.

The fact that we are by far the most successful country in getting out of a worldwide pandemic has zero interest to them when they can bandy around numbers you can’t even put on a calculator far less have an inkling as to what the number should be.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The Govt have fooked up from the start
That the vaccine roll out is going well is their get out of jail card
Had Starmer not been an obsequious coont maybe labour could have held them to account
He opposed lime Lena Zavarroni wrestling Michelle McManus
Fud of a man
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Hindsight being a wonderful thing of course.

Like many we are straight in to criticise like we all knew better but the processes and thoughts along with funding that went into getting our vaccines was just luck
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's not hindsight.
Almost every poster on here has been calling them out for their oafishness and duplicity.
Hindsight is just proving that they were correct.

posted on 5/3/21

Actually just checked that 90 million includes all private testing. NHS staff, other mandatory health screening.

Yes track and trace will be the bulk of it but can't really use that total number to justify track and trace at all.

Before you even talk about the fact the government shouldn't be paying anywhere near £120 a test.

posted on 5/3/21

comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Zachsda( He’s gone, the shark throwers h... (U1850)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
Labour openly said it was £83bn - all accounted for by tax rises. Tories claimed the real cost was £1.2trn.

Anyways, according to gov data we've performed 90m covid tests - presumably paid for by the current £22bn? On testing alone that would equate to £244 per test. As private PCR tests are around £120 once you throw in the tracing it maybe doesn't seem such a stretch? Of course much of the testing is cheaper lateral flow at £10-30 though I think positoves are followed up with PCR?

Dunno - I'd be more suspicious of folk claiming some countries are doing it all for a few million.
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/testing

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Don’t for goodness sake.

Let them enjoy their daily redtop rag highlights. They believe them bless.

The fact that we are by far the most successful country in getting out of a worldwide pandemic has zero interest to them when they can bandy around numbers you can’t even put on a calculator far less have an inkling as to what the number should be.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The Govt have fooked up from the start
That the vaccine roll out is going well is their get out of jail card
Had Starmer not been an obsequious coont maybe labour could have held them to account
He opposed lime Lena Zavarroni wrestling Michelle McManus
Fud of a man
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Hindsight being a wonderful thing of course.

Like many we are straight in to criticise like we all knew better but the processes and thoughts along with funding that went into getting our vaccines was just luck
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's not hindsight.
Almost every poster on here has been calling them out for their oafishness and duplicity.
Hindsight is just proving that they were correct.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Baws.

Every other poster on here has a defined mindset when it comes from anything to do with the government.

Nobody on here or anywhere else can claim to have had a clue about what we should have or shouldn’t have done, particularly at the very start of this. They’ve just added their usual scorn in manner that they think portrays them best or somehow knowledgable.

It’s hindsight. Pure and simple. A knowledge after the fact.

posted on 5/3/21

comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum... (U14864)
posted 2 minutes ago
Actually just checked that 90 million includes all private testing. NHS staff, other mandatory health screening.

Yes track and trace will be the bulk of it but can't really use that total number to justify track and trace at all.

Before you even talk about the fact the government shouldn't be paying anywhere near £120 a test.


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Do the government actually have any control over the cost? It’s a kind of “that’s the cost; take it or leave it scenario”.

Leave it and we would really be in the proverbial.

posted on 5/3/21

comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum are not mine but a fictionalised version loosely based on someone similar to me (U14864)
posted 1 minute ago
Actually just checked that 90 million includes all private testing. NHS staff, other mandatory health screening.

Yes track and trace will be the bulk of it but can't really use that total number to justify track and trace at all.

Before you even talk about the fact the government shouldn't be paying anywhere near £120 a test.


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Agreed.
Just on a point of pedantry...the government isn't paying for anything. Her Majesty's subjects, present and future, are funding the whole circus

posted on 5/3/21

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum... (U14864)
posted 2 minutes ago
Actually just checked that 90 million includes all private testing. NHS staff, other mandatory health screening.

Yes track and trace will be the bulk of it but can't really use that total number to justify track and trace at all.

Before you even talk about the fact the government shouldn't be paying anywhere near £120 a test.


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Do the government actually have any control over the cost? It’s a kind of “that’s the cost; take it or leave it scenario”.

Leave it and we would really be in the proverbial.
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Now I know you're at it ya coont.

You'd haggle over a widget 🤣

posted on 5/3/21

And before Zach comes on, I said widget.

posted on 5/3/21

comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum are not mine but a fictionalised version loosely based on someone similar to me (U14864)
posted 1 minute ago
Actually just checked that 90 million includes all private testing. NHS staff, other mandatory health screening.

Yes track and trace will be the bulk of it but can't really use that total number to justify track and trace at all.

Before you even talk about the fact the government shouldn't be paying anywhere near £120 a test.


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Agreed.
Just on a point of pedantry...the government isn't paying for anything. Her Majesty's subjects, present and future, are funding the whole circus
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See my point above.

What do you think they (we) should pay? A lot less I’m guessing.

So these products are in huge demand round the world and somehow our government will dictate what they pay?

They don’t make the bloody things

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 5/3/21

You know I didn't claim that, SPR. Just suggesting that we might be in the right ball park when nobody seems sure what all that number covers.

posted on 5/3/21



Christ.

This is all up there with “Pete. It’s £35m. Don’t take a penny less”

posted on 5/3/21

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
You know I didn't claim that, SPR. Just suggesting that we might be in the right ball park when nobody seems sure what all that number covers.
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No no no

We all know it should be far less.

And that’s not hindsight.

No siree

posted on 5/3/21

comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum... (U14864)
posted 2 minutes ago
Actually just checked that 90 million includes all private testing. NHS staff, other mandatory health screening.

Yes track and trace will be the bulk of it but can't really use that total number to justify track and trace at all.

Before you even talk about the fact the government shouldn't be paying anywhere near £120 a test.


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Do the government actually have any control over the cost? It’s a kind of “that’s the cost; take it or leave it scenario”.

Leave it and we would really be in the proverbial.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Now I know you're at it ya coont.

You'd haggle over a widget 🤣
----------------------------------------------------------------------



I just enjoy myself on here. I honestly don’t know why people get so worked up

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 5/3/21

Jeezus fook
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/05/india/father-beheads-daughter-india-intl-scli/index.html

posted on 5/3/21

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum... (U14864)
posted 2 minutes ago
Actually just checked that 90 million includes all private testing. NHS staff, other mandatory health screening.

Yes track and trace will be the bulk of it but can't really use that total number to justify track and trace at all.

Before you even talk about the fact the government shouldn't be paying anywhere near £120 a test.


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Do the government actually have any control over the cost? It’s a kind of “that’s the cost; take it or leave it scenario”.

Leave it and we would really be in the proverbial.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Now I know you're at it ya coont.

You'd haggle over a widget 🤣
----------------------------------------------------------------------



I just enjoy myself on here. I honestly don’t know why people get so worked up
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I used to not know but now I'm starting to get an idea 🤣

posted on 5/3/21

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 7 seconds ago
Jeezus fook
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/05/india/father-beheads-daughter-india-intl-scli/index.html
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Backward cwnts

posted on 5/3/21

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 7 seconds ago
Jeezus fook
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/05/india/father-beheads-daughter-india-intl-scli/index.html
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Backward cwnts
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All a misunderstanding.

A boy in the pub said 'I'll give you a million quid to get head off your daughter'

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 5/3/21

France to follow Italy's lead and prevent vaccine export. These things will not be forgotten.

posted on 5/3/21

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 21 minutes ago
You know I didn't claim that, SPR. Just suggesting that we might be in the right ball park when nobody seems sure what all that number covers.
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Hey no worries, certainly wasn't saying you were making mad claims. Just looked into the info as I was genuinely surprised by that number knowing what I do about testing.

Dig a bit deeper and that headline number at the top of the site hides a lot of things.

Testing is going better though, getting businesses to do a lot of it for you is certainly a good idea.

posted on 5/3/21

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum... (U14864)
posted 2 minutes ago
Actually just checked that 90 million includes all private testing. NHS staff, other mandatory health screening.

Yes track and trace will be the bulk of it but can't really use that total number to justify track and trace at all.

Before you even talk about the fact the government shouldn't be paying anywhere near £120 a test.


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Do the government actually have any control over the cost? It’s a kind of “that’s the cost; take it or leave it scenario”.

Leave it and we would really be in the proverbial.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Now now ginger.

If you want me to believe that your company procurement team pay full retail price for any services or suppliers your company engage then fine.

Any procurement process you look at retail price and actual cost without overheads and profit and meet somewhere. Usually bigger the scale the closer to cost price you get.

Now the most expensive suppliers I have is £95, that includes all staff costs and overheads. I won't say what the cheapest one is but it's significantly lower.

I have been involved in government procurement processes for the SG and can tell you that they due to scale get far better prices than anything I've been able to secure at private companies.

But I know you know this

posted on 5/3/21

comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum... (U14864)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 21 minutes ago
You know I didn't claim that, SPR. Just suggesting that we might be in the right ball park when nobody seems sure what all that number covers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hey no worries, certainly wasn't saying you were making mad claims. Just looked into the info as I was genuinely surprised by that number knowing what I do about testing.

Dig a bit deeper and that headline number at the top of the site hides a lot of things.

Testing is going better though, getting businesses to do a lot of it for you is certainly a good idea.
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The test site the wean works in is going like a fair he can work almost any time he wants

posted on 5/3/21

comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum... (U14864)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum... (U14864)
posted 2 minutes ago
Actually just checked that 90 million includes all private testing. NHS staff, other mandatory health screening.

Yes track and trace will be the bulk of it but can't really use that total number to justify track and trace at all.

Before you even talk about the fact the government shouldn't be paying anywhere near £120 a test.


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Do the government actually have any control over the cost? It’s a kind of “that’s the cost; take it or leave it scenario”.

Leave it and we would really be in the proverbial.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Now now ginger.

If you want me to believe that your company procurement team pay full retail price for any services or suppliers your company engage then fine.

Any procurement process you look at retail price and actual cost without overheads and profit and meet somewhere. Usually bigger the scale the closer to cost price you get.

Now the most expensive suppliers I have is £95, that includes all staff costs and overheads. I won't say what the cheapest one is but it's significantly lower.

I have been involved in government procurement processes for the SG and can tell you that they due to scale get far better prices than anything I've been able to secure at private companies.

But I know you know this
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Yeahe of course. But we have time to negotiate. And we can take our business elsewhere.

I’d think in any event that the prices will be dropping. We pay for all the tests we use and already we’ve seen the price drop from £12 to circa £8-9 for lateral flow tests.

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