comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 4 hours, 33 minutes ago
Is that what I said?
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And the other 21 practices already ran by this US company. When did you pipe up about that.
Anyway I’m off to join the lines for bread and paracetamol, the empty shelves are expressing.
comment by Chester Chesterton III (U1308)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 4 hours, 33 minutes ago
Is that what I said?
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And the other 21 practices already ran by this US company. When did you pipe up about that.
Anyway I’m off to join the lines for bread and paracetamol, the empty shelves are expressing.
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Those are besides the point. Having some foreign ownership is natural but Julljust because they own some doesn't mean it's a good idea to give them more. What kinda logic is that? Fact is they are now being given more control which we were warned about.
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Chester Chesterton III (U1308)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 4 hours, 33 minutes ago
Is that what I said?
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And the other 21 practices already ran by this US company. When did you pipe up about that.
Anyway I’m off to join the lines for bread and paracetamol, the empty shelves are expressing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Those are besides the point. Having some foreign ownership is natural but Julljust because they own some doesn't mean it's a good idea to give them more. What kinda logic is that? Fact is they are now being given more control which we were warned about.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So we’re you against the other 21?
Any previous contracts that are ran by US owned companies. Or other non U.K. companies?
Changing the subject, now Brexit is a reality as least give me the benefit of a UK only passport queue.
An hour and a half at Heathrow last week was a complete piisstake when you are in the same queue as everyone else.
I've no doubt Boris signed that "right" away with his oven-ready deal though as he never has to queue for anything!
comment by Scouse (U9675)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
I've no doubt Boris signed that "right" away with his oven-ready deal though as he never has to queue for anything!
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You mean this Boris? https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/apr/03/boris-johnson-a-clown-with-no-diplomacy-skills-says-ex-deputy-in-diaries
The new VAT rules and customs and checks are a royal pig’s ear. Here’s how it’s working for us.
(To set the scene, we’re an SME based in Portugal that manufactures and then retails online to customers worldwide.)
- We are still shipping to UK customers. Absolutely no problems for our customers getting our products in, because there aren’t any checks or controls on VAT or apparently anything else at the UK border. All of our packages are flying straight through, and all of our UK customers still seem very happy. This is currently a nice win for EU business.
- Portugal, like all other EU nations, has in place customs procedures for everything that comes into the EU from outside, including, of course, the UK. Most UK SMEs (including all of our remaining UK suppliers) don’t seem to understand how to label their packages to expedite customs clearance. Everything stopped by customs automatically gets whacked with a minimum EUR12 charge, and then import VAT is applied (at 23% here rather than the UK’s 20%) on top. As we buy small quantities of supplies, frequently, from many different suppliers on a JIT basis, this has made it almost impossible financially and practically to continue to work with UK suppliers. This is obviously already a big problem for UK B2B sellers, and, as such, a big win for EU B2B business.
- Same applies to retail as it does wholesale purchases. It has become much more expensive and difficult for end-consumers to buy from UK retailers. Everything is being stopped at the border and whacked with charges. We used to buy stuff like giant sacks of tea bags online to get posted out here, as well as gift shopping, purchases from Depop sellers, and the rest. No more. Again, this is obviously a problem for UK B2C sellers of all scales who sold in any significant way to the EU market, and, as such, a very nice win for EU B2C sellers of all scales.
- VAT registration. UK govt, in its wisdom, has decided that the UK should become the only country in the world (as far as I am aware) with a single-sale VAT registration requirement. The threshold for selling into the UK is £0. I cannot imagine what kind of bureaucratic nightmare this has created for HMRC, but we applied for our VAT regn in December and are yet to receive anything from HMRC. Well done; you’ve created a massive, crippling admin burden the UK taxpayer has to foot the bill for and simultaneously made the UK the most bureaucratically difficult country for online sellers to access, no doubt to the detriment of the UK consumer.
They’ve shot themselves in both feet, and now appear to be systematically working their way around the rest of the figurative body, emptying the rest of the magazine into any remaining unwounded flesh.
I didn't import anything in January, but my HMRC Postponed VAT statement for month ending 31st Jan. has an entry in it dated 25th February, work that one out!
HMRC were made aware of this six weeks ago and still nothing has changed.
Methinks they can't cope.
comment by Chester Chesterton III (U1308)
posted 3 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Chester Chesterton III (U1308)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 4 hours, 33 minutes ago
Is that what I said?
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And the other 21 practices already ran by this US company. When did you pipe up about that.
Anyway I’m off to join the lines for bread and paracetamol, the empty shelves are expressing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Those are besides the point. Having some foreign ownership is natural but Julljust because they own some doesn't mean it's a good idea to give them more. What kinda logic is that? Fact is they are now being given more control which we were warned about.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So we’re you against the other 21?
Any previous contracts that are ran by US owned companies. Or other non U.K. companies?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why does it matter if I was or wasn't?
comment by Scouse (U9675)
posted 19 minutes ago
I didn't import anything in January, but my HMRC Postponed VAT statement for month ending 31st Jan. has an entry in it dated 25th February, work that one out!
HMRC were made aware of this six weeks ago and still nothing has changed.
Methinks they can't cope.
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I wouldn’t want to be working in there at the moment, for sure
comment by rosso - he hands you a nickel, and he hands you a dime, and he asks you with a grin if you're havin' a good time (U17054)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Scouse (U9675)
posted 19 minutes ago
I didn't import anything in January, but my HMRC Postponed VAT statement for month ending 31st Jan. has an entry in it dated 25th February, work that one out!
HMRC were made aware of this six weeks ago and still nothing has changed.
Methinks they can't cope.
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I wouldn’t want to be working in there at the moment, for sure
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Hope you're well Rosso. I saw you posted on the politics thread by mistake!
In regard to HMRC they repeatedly told the government they would not be ready. And systems like the new Customs Declaration System (CDS to replace CHIEF) was "sub optimal" But if they government chose to accept this reality they wouldn't have been able to Get Brexit Done.
Takes me back.
"I know how much red tape and regulation acts a barrier to your businesses.
I know that every pound you have to spend complying with rules and regulations is a pound taken away from investment on the frontline of your business;
And as a result you expect and demand action from Government on delivering supply-side reforms and reductions in red tape."
"It is a fact that while we remain a member of the European Union, our hands are tied and we are powerless to act on reducing the burdens of red tape.
"Britain is a proud nation of entrepreneurs, and small businesses, including in your sector, are the backbone of our economy."
"I want us to be able to do everything we can to support them to thrive, but EU membership prevents that."
http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/priti_patel_speech_at_the_spring_conference_of_the_association_of_licensed_multiple_retailers.html
I've spent more time on "red-tape" in the last three months than I have in the last 25 years combined.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Percy Pig aficionado (U3126)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by rosso - he hands you a nickel, and he hands you a dime, and he asks you with a grin if you're havin' a good time (U17054)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Scouse (U9675)
posted 19 minutes ago
I didn't import anything in January, but my HMRC Postponed VAT statement for month ending 31st Jan. has an entry in it dated 25th February, work that one out!
HMRC were made aware of this six weeks ago and still nothing has changed.
Methinks they can't cope.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I wouldn’t want to be working in there at the moment, for sure
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hope you're well Rosso. I saw you posted on the politics thread by mistake!
In regard to HMRC they repeatedly told the government they would not be ready. And systems like the new Customs Declaration System (CDS to replace CHIEF) was "sub optimal" But if they government chose to accept this reality they wouldn't have been able to Get Brexit Done.
Takes me back.
"I know how much red tape and regulation acts a barrier to your businesses.
I know that every pound you have to spend complying with rules and regulations is a pound taken away from investment on the frontline of your business;
And as a result you expect and demand action from Government on delivering supply-side reforms and reductions in red tape."
"It is a fact that while we remain a member of the European Union, our hands are tied and we are powerless to act on reducing the burdens of red tape.
"Britain is a proud nation of entrepreneurs, and small businesses, including in your sector, are the backbone of our economy."
"I want us to be able to do everything we can to support them to thrive, but EU membership prevents that."
http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/priti_patel_speech_at_the_spring_conference_of_the_association_of_licensed_multiple_retailers.html
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Say one thing, do the diametrical opposite.
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 2 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by Chester Chesterton III (U1308)
posted 3 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Chester Chesterton III (U1308)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 4 hours, 33 minutes ago
Is that what I said?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And the other 21 practices already ran by this US company. When did you pipe up about that.
Anyway I’m off to join the lines for bread and paracetamol, the empty shelves are expressing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Those are besides the point. Having some foreign ownership is natural but Julljust because they own some doesn't mean it's a good idea to give them more. What kinda logic is that? Fact is they are now being given more control which we were warned about.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So we’re you against the other 21?
Any previous contracts that are ran by US owned companies. Or other non U.K. companies?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why does it matter if I was or wasn't?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So when the guardian highlighted it, it became an issue?
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 11 hours, 22 minutes ago
Is that what I said?
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<Wah>
So just these practices that are an issue. Is it your local practice, you paying in dollars or GBP before being seen by a Dr?
What?
The issue of NHS ownership does not depend on what I thought previously. It doesn't matter what I thought, all that matters is what can be established as fact. My thoughts on the matter do not make foreign ownership of the NHS a good thing or a bad thing.
Discuss the issues, don't discuss me. Failing that why don't you shut your hole you simpleton and discuss things that you actually understand, like the mother goose club.
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 59 minutes ago
What?
The issue of NHS ownership does not depend on what I thought previously. It doesn't matter what I thought, all that matters is what can be established as fact. My thoughts on the matter do not make foreign ownership of the NHS a good thing or a bad thing.
Discuss the issues, don't discuss me. Failing that why don't you shut your hole you simpleton and discuss things that you actually understand, like the mother goose club.
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But that’s not NHS foreign ownership. That’s a contract given by NHS to provide NHS services. Unless it’s pay before treatment?
I'm sure you know what I mean. You've contributed nothing to the actual debate, just whataboutery and sideshows.
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
I'm sure you know what I mean. You've contributed nothing to the actual debate, just whataboutery and sideshows.
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Will the new service be pay on treatment or funded via NI and taxes to the NHS budget?
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posted on 4/4/21
Is that what I said?
posted on 4/4/21
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 4 hours, 33 minutes ago
Is that what I said?
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And the other 21 practices already ran by this US company. When did you pipe up about that.
Anyway I’m off to join the lines for bread and paracetamol, the empty shelves are expressing.
posted on 4/4/21
comment by Chester Chesterton III (U1308)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 4 hours, 33 minutes ago
Is that what I said?
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And the other 21 practices already ran by this US company. When did you pipe up about that.
Anyway I’m off to join the lines for bread and paracetamol, the empty shelves are expressing.
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Those are besides the point. Having some foreign ownership is natural but Julljust because they own some doesn't mean it's a good idea to give them more. What kinda logic is that? Fact is they are now being given more control which we were warned about.
posted on 4/4/21
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Chester Chesterton III (U1308)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 4 hours, 33 minutes ago
Is that what I said?
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And the other 21 practices already ran by this US company. When did you pipe up about that.
Anyway I’m off to join the lines for bread and paracetamol, the empty shelves are expressing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Those are besides the point. Having some foreign ownership is natural but Julljust because they own some doesn't mean it's a good idea to give them more. What kinda logic is that? Fact is they are now being given more control which we were warned about.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So we’re you against the other 21?
Any previous contracts that are ran by US owned companies. Or other non U.K. companies?
posted on 4/4/21
Changing the subject, now Brexit is a reality as least give me the benefit of a UK only passport queue.
An hour and a half at Heathrow last week was a complete piisstake when you are in the same queue as everyone else.
posted on 4/4/21
I've no doubt Boris signed that "right" away with his oven-ready deal though as he never has to queue for anything!
posted on 4/4/21
comment by Scouse (U9675)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
I've no doubt Boris signed that "right" away with his oven-ready deal though as he never has to queue for anything!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You mean this Boris? https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/apr/03/boris-johnson-a-clown-with-no-diplomacy-skills-says-ex-deputy-in-diaries
posted on 4/4/21
The new VAT rules and customs and checks are a royal pig’s ear. Here’s how it’s working for us.
(To set the scene, we’re an SME based in Portugal that manufactures and then retails online to customers worldwide.)
- We are still shipping to UK customers. Absolutely no problems for our customers getting our products in, because there aren’t any checks or controls on VAT or apparently anything else at the UK border. All of our packages are flying straight through, and all of our UK customers still seem very happy. This is currently a nice win for EU business.
- Portugal, like all other EU nations, has in place customs procedures for everything that comes into the EU from outside, including, of course, the UK. Most UK SMEs (including all of our remaining UK suppliers) don’t seem to understand how to label their packages to expedite customs clearance. Everything stopped by customs automatically gets whacked with a minimum EUR12 charge, and then import VAT is applied (at 23% here rather than the UK’s 20%) on top. As we buy small quantities of supplies, frequently, from many different suppliers on a JIT basis, this has made it almost impossible financially and practically to continue to work with UK suppliers. This is obviously already a big problem for UK B2B sellers, and, as such, a big win for EU B2B business.
- Same applies to retail as it does wholesale purchases. It has become much more expensive and difficult for end-consumers to buy from UK retailers. Everything is being stopped at the border and whacked with charges. We used to buy stuff like giant sacks of tea bags online to get posted out here, as well as gift shopping, purchases from Depop sellers, and the rest. No more. Again, this is obviously a problem for UK B2C sellers of all scales who sold in any significant way to the EU market, and, as such, a very nice win for EU B2C sellers of all scales.
- VAT registration. UK govt, in its wisdom, has decided that the UK should become the only country in the world (as far as I am aware) with a single-sale VAT registration requirement. The threshold for selling into the UK is £0. I cannot imagine what kind of bureaucratic nightmare this has created for HMRC, but we applied for our VAT regn in December and are yet to receive anything from HMRC. Well done; you’ve created a massive, crippling admin burden the UK taxpayer has to foot the bill for and simultaneously made the UK the most bureaucratically difficult country for online sellers to access, no doubt to the detriment of the UK consumer.
They’ve shot themselves in both feet, and now appear to be systematically working their way around the rest of the figurative body, emptying the rest of the magazine into any remaining unwounded flesh.
posted on 4/4/21
I didn't import anything in January, but my HMRC Postponed VAT statement for month ending 31st Jan. has an entry in it dated 25th February, work that one out!
HMRC were made aware of this six weeks ago and still nothing has changed.
Methinks they can't cope.
posted on 4/4/21
comment by Chester Chesterton III (U1308)
posted 3 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Chester Chesterton III (U1308)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 4 hours, 33 minutes ago
Is that what I said?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And the other 21 practices already ran by this US company. When did you pipe up about that.
Anyway I’m off to join the lines for bread and paracetamol, the empty shelves are expressing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Those are besides the point. Having some foreign ownership is natural but Julljust because they own some doesn't mean it's a good idea to give them more. What kinda logic is that? Fact is they are now being given more control which we were warned about.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So we’re you against the other 21?
Any previous contracts that are ran by US owned companies. Or other non U.K. companies?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why does it matter if I was or wasn't?
posted on 4/4/21
comment by Scouse (U9675)
posted 19 minutes ago
I didn't import anything in January, but my HMRC Postponed VAT statement for month ending 31st Jan. has an entry in it dated 25th February, work that one out!
HMRC were made aware of this six weeks ago and still nothing has changed.
Methinks they can't cope.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I wouldn’t want to be working in there at the moment, for sure
posted on 4/4/21
comment by rosso - he hands you a nickel, and he hands you a dime, and he asks you with a grin if you're havin' a good time (U17054)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Scouse (U9675)
posted 19 minutes ago
I didn't import anything in January, but my HMRC Postponed VAT statement for month ending 31st Jan. has an entry in it dated 25th February, work that one out!
HMRC were made aware of this six weeks ago and still nothing has changed.
Methinks they can't cope.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I wouldn’t want to be working in there at the moment, for sure
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hope you're well Rosso. I saw you posted on the politics thread by mistake!
In regard to HMRC they repeatedly told the government they would not be ready. And systems like the new Customs Declaration System (CDS to replace CHIEF) was "sub optimal" But if they government chose to accept this reality they wouldn't have been able to Get Brexit Done.
Takes me back.
"I know how much red tape and regulation acts a barrier to your businesses.
I know that every pound you have to spend complying with rules and regulations is a pound taken away from investment on the frontline of your business;
And as a result you expect and demand action from Government on delivering supply-side reforms and reductions in red tape."
"It is a fact that while we remain a member of the European Union, our hands are tied and we are powerless to act on reducing the burdens of red tape.
"Britain is a proud nation of entrepreneurs, and small businesses, including in your sector, are the backbone of our economy."
"I want us to be able to do everything we can to support them to thrive, but EU membership prevents that."
http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/priti_patel_speech_at_the_spring_conference_of_the_association_of_licensed_multiple_retailers.html
posted on 4/4/21
I've spent more time on "red-tape" in the last three months than I have in the last 25 years combined.
posted on 4/4/21
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Percy Pig aficionado (U3126)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by rosso - he hands you a nickel, and he hands you a dime, and he asks you with a grin if you're havin' a good time (U17054)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Scouse (U9675)
posted 19 minutes ago
I didn't import anything in January, but my HMRC Postponed VAT statement for month ending 31st Jan. has an entry in it dated 25th February, work that one out!
HMRC were made aware of this six weeks ago and still nothing has changed.
Methinks they can't cope.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I wouldn’t want to be working in there at the moment, for sure
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hope you're well Rosso. I saw you posted on the politics thread by mistake!
In regard to HMRC they repeatedly told the government they would not be ready. And systems like the new Customs Declaration System (CDS to replace CHIEF) was "sub optimal" But if they government chose to accept this reality they wouldn't have been able to Get Brexit Done.
Takes me back.
"I know how much red tape and regulation acts a barrier to your businesses.
I know that every pound you have to spend complying with rules and regulations is a pound taken away from investment on the frontline of your business;
And as a result you expect and demand action from Government on delivering supply-side reforms and reductions in red tape."
"It is a fact that while we remain a member of the European Union, our hands are tied and we are powerless to act on reducing the burdens of red tape.
"Britain is a proud nation of entrepreneurs, and small businesses, including in your sector, are the backbone of our economy."
"I want us to be able to do everything we can to support them to thrive, but EU membership prevents that."
http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/priti_patel_speech_at_the_spring_conference_of_the_association_of_licensed_multiple_retailers.html
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Say one thing, do the diametrical opposite.
posted on 4/4/21
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 2 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by Chester Chesterton III (U1308)
posted 3 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Chester Chesterton III (U1308)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 4 hours, 33 minutes ago
Is that what I said?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And the other 21 practices already ran by this US company. When did you pipe up about that.
Anyway I’m off to join the lines for bread and paracetamol, the empty shelves are expressing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Those are besides the point. Having some foreign ownership is natural but Julljust because they own some doesn't mean it's a good idea to give them more. What kinda logic is that? Fact is they are now being given more control which we were warned about.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So we’re you against the other 21?
Any previous contracts that are ran by US owned companies. Or other non U.K. companies?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why does it matter if I was or wasn't?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So when the guardian highlighted it, it became an issue?
posted on 4/4/21
Is that what I said?
posted on 5/4/21
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 11 hours, 22 minutes ago
Is that what I said?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
<Wah>
So just these practices that are an issue. Is it your local practice, you paying in dollars or GBP before being seen by a Dr?
posted on 5/4/21
What?
The issue of NHS ownership does not depend on what I thought previously. It doesn't matter what I thought, all that matters is what can be established as fact. My thoughts on the matter do not make foreign ownership of the NHS a good thing or a bad thing.
Discuss the issues, don't discuss me. Failing that why don't you shut your hole you simpleton and discuss things that you actually understand, like the mother goose club.
posted on 5/4/21
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 59 minutes ago
What?
The issue of NHS ownership does not depend on what I thought previously. It doesn't matter what I thought, all that matters is what can be established as fact. My thoughts on the matter do not make foreign ownership of the NHS a good thing or a bad thing.
Discuss the issues, don't discuss me. Failing that why don't you shut your hole you simpleton and discuss things that you actually understand, like the mother goose club.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But that’s not NHS foreign ownership. That’s a contract given by NHS to provide NHS services. Unless it’s pay before treatment?
posted on 5/4/21
I'm sure you know what I mean. You've contributed nothing to the actual debate, just whataboutery and sideshows.
posted on 5/4/21
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
I'm sure you know what I mean. You've contributed nothing to the actual debate, just whataboutery and sideshows.
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Will the new service be pay on treatment or funded via NI and taxes to the NHS budget?
posted on 5/4/21
Yeah alright thanks.
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