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posted on 8/4/21

I would have thought that arsenal's manager, George Graham, winning you a trophy was far more embarassing.

You needed a little help from your neighbours. Still do.

posted on 8/4/21

Spurs are in a similar situation to that of Wolves a decade ago. You will be better off when the last of the generation that can remember when you were good have passed away and you can move on with realistic expectations.

posted on 8/4/21

comment by Beeb (U1841)
posted 23 minutes ago
I would have thought that arsenal's manager, George Graham, winning you a trophy was far more embarassing.

You needed a little help from your neighbours. Still do.
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Almost as embarrasing then that Arsenal`s first trophies were won by a manager that played for Spurs.

posted on 8/4/21

comment by TheBlackCountry (U22512)
posted 25 minutes ago
Spurs are in a similar situation to that of Wolves a decade ago. You will be better off when the last of the generation that can remember when you were good have passed away and you can move on with realistic expectations.
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Blimey, you would have to be even my grandad`s age to remember when Wolves won trophies.

posted on 8/4/21

comment by sandy, Jose In (U20567)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by TheBlackCountry (U22512)
posted 25 minutes ago
Spurs are in a similar situation to that of Wolves a decade ago. You will be better off when the last of the generation that can remember when you were good have passed away and you can move on with realistic expectations.
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Blimey, you would have to be even my grandad`s age to remember when Wolves won trophies.
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I would have thought he even remembers our first match in 1877?

posted on 8/4/21

Ted Ditchburn, Alf Ramsey, Billy Nicholson, Ron Burgess, Len Duquemin, .....YES..
I miss those days, Sandy Ole Boy.

They won't return while ENIC is in charge.

posted on 8/4/21

comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 20 minutes ago
Ted Ditchburn, Alf Ramsey, Billy Nicholson, Ron Burgess, Len Duquemin, .....YES..
I miss those days, Sandy Ole Boy.

They won't return while ENIC is in charge.
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Good old days Ted. Not celebrating the top four trophy.

posted on 8/4/21

comment by Beeb (U1841)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
I would have thought that arsenal's manager, George Graham, winning you a trophy was far more embarassing.

You needed a little help from your neighbours. Still do.
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‘Still do’

How do you mean ?

comment by Phenom (U20037)

posted on 8/4/21

morning Sandy

who would you say has been the best spurs manager of the premier league era?

posted on 8/4/21

nope. don't miss them because i don't know them. too young to remember 91. 99 and 08 therefore the only two cups. an absolutely disgraceful trophy haul in the last 30 years

posted on 8/4/21

comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Beeb (U1841)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
I would have thought that arsenal's manager, George Graham, winning you a trophy was far more embarassing.

You needed a little help from your neighbours. Still do.
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‘Still do’

How do you mean ?
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Joe Willock helping move Jose closer to the exit?

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 8/4/21

I miss the days when we were in the top 4 and looked like challenging for the bigger trophies than the League Cup. Anytime we've succeeded in reaching the final of the League Cup during the PL era we've been a mediocre team that did very little else in the season. This one looks like being no different.

comment by SteveF (U22027)

posted on 8/4/21

comment by sandy, Jose In (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
comment by TheBlackCountry (U22512)
posted 25 minutes ago
Spurs are in a similar situation to that of Wolves a decade ago. You will be better off when the last of the generation that can remember when you were good have passed away and you can move on with realistic expectations.
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Blimey, you would have to be even my grandad`s age to remember when Wolves won trophies.
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Chris, so everyone over 50 needs to go away and die then ?
What a refreshing thought, and I am sure so deserving of all the older fans, including me. I am truly sorry for preventing Spurs from winning something, becasue I am older than 50.

posted on 8/4/21

comment by Lexington 125.2 - Give Reiss A Chance (U8879)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Beeb (U1841)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
I would have thought that arsenal's manager, George Graham, winning you a trophy was far more embarassing.

You needed a little help from your neighbours. Still do.
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‘Still do’

How do you mean ?
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Joe Willock helping move Jose closer to the exit?
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Touché

posted on 8/4/21

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 4 minutes ago
I miss the days when we were in the top 4 and looked like challenging for the bigger trophies than the League Cup. Anytime we've succeeded in reaching the final of the League Cup during the PL era we've been a mediocre team that did very little else in the season. This one looks like being no different.
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This ^
Spurs in all history, bar the 1961-1963 period, have never been classed as aa dominant force on the World scene more than under Poch, between 2015-19 period.

Everywhere I have been during that period, people would say how much they loved Spurs, how we play and etc.

Now, people say oh well you're 2 points off the top

posted on 8/4/21

top 4

posted on 8/4/21

I would have loved to have seen what Poch could have done if Levy backed him properly.

posted on 8/4/21

comment by #PhenagelsmannIN (U20037)
posted 43 minutes ago
morning Sandy

who would you say has been the best spurs manager of the premier league era?
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Not much to chose really. I liked Harry, Ramos and Graham won Spurs a trophy, Poch did OK with a few top four finishes. None of them though have really taken Spurs back to where they were pre Prem.

posted on 8/4/21

comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 4 minutes ago
I miss the days when we were in the top 4 and looked like challenging for the bigger trophies than the League Cup. Anytime we've succeeded in reaching the final of the League Cup during the PL era we've been a mediocre team that did very little else in the season. This one looks like being no different.
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This ^
Spurs in all history, bar the 1961-1963 period, have never been classed as aa dominant force on the World scene more than under Poch, between 2015-19 period.

Everywhere I have been during that period, people would say how much they loved Spurs, how we play and etc.

Now, people say oh well you're 2 points off the top
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Spurs had quite a lot of good periods after the early 1960s mate, throughout 70s, 80s and early 90s, they certainly had players, teams that performed better than anything under the Poch era.

posted on 8/4/21

comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 33 minutes ago
nope. don't miss them because i don't know them. too young to remember 91. 99 and 08 therefore the only two cups. an absolutely disgraceful trophy haul in the last 30 years
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That's fair enough Chronic, maybe that is why the modern fan is so happy with a few top four finishes, and a few losing finals.

posted on 8/4/21

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 39 minutes ago
I miss the days when we were in the top 4 and looked like challenging for the bigger trophies than the League Cup. Anytime we've succeeded in reaching the final of the League Cup during the PL era we've been a mediocre team that did very little else in the season. This one looks like being no different.
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Spurs had lots of top four finishes during the 60s, 70s, 80s mate and added trophies to the top fours. A few top four finishes now, without delivering trophies, means absolutely nothing.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 8/4/21

comment by sandy, Jose In (U20567)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 39 minutes ago
I miss the days when we were in the top 4 and looked like challenging for the bigger trophies than the League Cup. Anytime we've succeeded in reaching the final of the League Cup during the PL era we've been a mediocre team that did very little else in the season. This one looks like being no different.
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Spurs had lots of top four finishes during the 60s, 70s, 80s mate and added trophies to the top fours. A few top four finishes now, without delivering trophies, means absolutely nothing.
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Yes but the 80's is decades ago. I was barely even a football fan back then. I'm talking about the Spurs that I'm familiar with which is the PL era. The years under Poch are the best I've experienced and they beat a token League Cup here and there.

posted on 8/4/21

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by sandy, Jose In (U20567)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 39 minutes ago
I miss the days when we were in the top 4 and looked like challenging for the bigger trophies than the League Cup. Anytime we've succeeded in reaching the final of the League Cup during the PL era we've been a mediocre team that did very little else in the season. This one looks like being no different.
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Spurs had lots of top four finishes during the 60s, 70s, 80s mate and added trophies to the top fours. A few top four finishes now, without delivering trophies, means absolutely nothing.
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Yes but the 80's is decades ago. I was barely even a football fan back then. I'm talking about the Spurs that I'm familiar with which is the PL era. The years under Poch are the best I've experienced and they beat a token League Cup here and there.
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It may be decades ago, but that does not mean that those of us like myself have to forget Spurs used to win trophies back in the day. Something they clearly do not now. It is getting embarrassng how few trophies Spurs have won in the Prem era. As I said the years under Poch were nothing special mate, only winning trophies can make them special.

I can remember being at Wembley and the like and see Spurs winning cups, being at WHL when Spurs won a European Trophy. Just about the only thing I can remember from the Poch top four days is they didn`t lead to Spurs winning a bean, reaching a couple of finals, where they didn`t turn up. Sorry mate but I want a bit more than that.

I get you being a modern fan get excited over that, but sorry, I just cannot get excited over winning absolutely nothing over the five year period.

posted on 8/4/21

comment by sandy, Jose In (U20567)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 39 minutes ago
I miss the days when we were in the top 4 and looked like challenging for the bigger trophies than the League Cup. Anytime we've succeeded in reaching the final of the League Cup during the PL era we've been a mediocre team that did very little else in the season. This one looks like being no different.
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Spurs had lots of top four finishes during the 60s, 70s, 80s mate and added trophies to the top fours. A few top four finishes now, without delivering trophies, means absolutely nothing.
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This is categorically untrue. Football is more about money now than it has ever been, particularly in the eras you've listed. Back then teams could get promoted the season before and then go on to win the first division title in their first season. It's a different game now. It's all about money. Being in the CL meant we could raise our wage structure and blast our transfer record nearly twice over. Before Lamela our record was £15M ish, then with Lamela and Soldado it went up to £30M, then doubled again to get Ndombele. You don't get to splash that kind of dosh unless you have the income. All of this money was gained before the new stadium money came into play so it was about performances on the pitch and CL runs. That's what allowed us to spend more. Our wage structure increasing to more normal top six levels also owes in no small part to continued CL participation.

To dismiss top four as nothing based on a lack of silverware is naive. It's a process and we are undoubtedly a different beast compared to 10 years ago, before we first got in the CL. The squad is better, the stadium is better, we offer players more money and we have the 2nd highest paid boss in the prem. You don't get to do all that without money coming in.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 8/4/21

comment by sandy, Jose In (U20567)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by sandy, Jose In (U20567)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 39 minutes ago
I miss the days when we were in the top 4 and looked like challenging for the bigger trophies than the League Cup. Anytime we've succeeded in reaching the final of the League Cup during the PL era we've been a mediocre team that did very little else in the season. This one looks like being no different.
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Spurs had lots of top four finishes during the 60s, 70s, 80s mate and added trophies to the top fours. A few top four finishes now, without delivering trophies, means absolutely nothing.
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Yes but the 80's is decades ago. I was barely even a football fan back then. I'm talking about the Spurs that I'm familiar with which is the PL era. The years under Poch are the best I've experienced and they beat a token League Cup here and there.
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It may be decades ago, but that does not mean that those of us like myself have to forget Spurs used to win trophies back in the day. Something they clearly do not now. It is getting embarrassng how few trophies Spurs have won in the Prem era. As I said the years under Poch were nothing special mate, only winning trophies can make them special.

I can remember being at Wembley and the like and see Spurs winning cups, being at WHL when Spurs won a European Trophy. Just about the only thing I can remember from the Poch top four days is they didn`t lead to Spurs winning a bean, reaching a couple of finals, where they didn`t turn up. Sorry mate but I want a bit more than that.

I get you being a modern fan get excited over that, but sorry, I just cannot get excited over winning absolutely nothing over the five year period.
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The excitement was in knowing we were going in the right direction, playing good football, and coming close to these trophies. We didn't end up winning anything and that is regrettable but I've already been through why I think we didn't win stuff and it's been a common denominator for why we haven't won more stuff than we have in the last 20 years, through various managers and decent teams.

Yes it is embarrassing how little we've won during the PL era. With a new stadium there is no excuse for the next 20 years to be as embarrassingly low on trophies. Covid isn't going to last forever.

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