I imagine West Ham will value Rice at around 3 times the price we value Lingard.
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 5 minutes ago
I imagine West Ham will value Rice at around 3 times the price we value Lingard.
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Whatever the differential, I guess it's a lot narrower than it was before Lingard's loan move.
Still a bit unsure on Rice... Certainly an upgrade for that position, but a bit uninspiring, though I can't claim to watch too much of West Ham.
I just want a Carrick type... where have they gone?
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 11 minutes ago
I imagine West Ham will value Rice at around 3 times the price we value Lingard.
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Just move lindeloff or Maguire into midfield to achieve the same effect as buying Rice....
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 13 minutes ago
I imagine West Ham will value Rice at around 3 times the price we value Lingard.
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Fantastic. They can have Jesse on a free.
I just want a Carrick type... where have they gone?
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Thats what we need.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 13 minutes ago
I imagine West Ham will value Rice at around 3 times the price we value Lingard.
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Fantastic. They can have Jesse on a free.
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Ed would admire your financial acumen. Can we replace Matt Judge with Diafol?
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 2 minutes ago
I just want a Carrick type... where have they gone?
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Thats what we need.
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It’s hardly like there’s been an abundance of Carrick types over the past 30 years. Very few players can do that role as well as Carrick did it.
They have also said that United are to make about £4m on the loan should this deal happen.
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 2 minutes ago
I just want a Carrick type... where have they gone?
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Thats what we need.
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It’s hardly like there’s been an abundance of Carrick types over the past 30 years. Very few players can do that role as well as Carrick did it.
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Rare as hen's teeth, but those type of players have been vital to some of the very best teams... UTD with Carrick, Barca with Busquets (the best), Real with Modric (not quite the same role, but similar in his later years).
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 2 minutes ago
I just want a Carrick type... where have they gone?
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Thats what we need.
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It’s hardly like there’s been an abundance of Carrick types over the past 30 years. Very few players can do that role as well as Carrick did it.
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Average, sideways-passing, one dimensional, slow and lethargic crab.
According to the JA606 United board. Until he retired.
Not a bad player, not a great player. Will cost well more than he's worth so no doubt will happen.
Will improve United's midfield. Kinda like Matic when he could get about with less technical ability.
I don't recall Carrick being so widely admired during his playing years. Not that he's a player who 'gets better the less he plays', more a case of not appreciating him until he's gone. Maybe it also takes received wisdom a while to catch up with paradigm shifts in football. Roy Keane was our stereotype of the midfield lynchpin, and at first glance you might see the more understated approach of Carrick as 'not doing much'. I remember people similarly questioning what Modric brought to the table when he was at Spurs, and a lot of people thinking Busquets was a one dimensional footballer. I don't remember seeing these views recently.
According to around 6 vocal, smooth brained UTD "fans" on the JA606 United board. Until he retired.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't recall Carrick being so widely admired during his playing years. Not that he's a player who 'gets better the less he plays', more a case of not appreciating him until he's gone. Maybe it also takes received wisdom a while to catch up with paradigm shifts in football. Roy Keane was our stereotype of the midfield lynchpin, and at first glance you might see the more understated approach of Carrick as 'not doing much'. I remember people similarly questioning what Modric brought to the table when he was at Spurs, and a lot of people thinking Busquets was a one dimensional footballer. I don't remember seeing these views recently.
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I think there were a lot of people who assumed that Scholes carried Carrick. It wasn’t until Scholes moved on and MC became the man for us that people realised how good he was.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 10 minutes ago
I don't recall Carrick being so widely admired during his playing years. Not that he's a player who 'gets better the less he plays', more a case of not appreciating him until he's gone. Maybe it also takes received wisdom a while to catch up with paradigm shifts in football. Roy Keane was our stereotype of the midfield lynchpin, and at first glance you might see the more understated approach of Carrick as 'not doing much'. I remember people similarly questioning what Modric brought to the table when he was at Spurs, and a lot of people thinking Busquets was a one dimensional footballer. I don't remember seeing these views recently.
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Carrick was absolutely torn to pieces on the United board for literally years.
I've wanted Rice at United for over a year, I hope we get him.
Rice looked all set for Chelsea until Lampard got the boot according to some decent journos. Maybe Tuchel not as keen.
I'd definitely be happy if we got him. Fred is not a DM nor is he a footballer. He's just a great advert for Duracell. He never stops running.
I think he will stay at Westham though. The price will put many off.
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Rice looked all set for Chelsea until Lampard got the boot according to some decent journos. Maybe Tuchel not as keen.
I'd definitely be happy if we got him. Fred is not a DM nor is he a footballer. He's just a great advert for Duracell. He never stops running.
I think he will stay at Westham though. The price will put many off.
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Apparently lampard wanting rice so much was a cause of tension between him and the board, who thought it'd be embarrassing to sign an ex academy player for a shed load of cash after releasing him
comment by Christo-pherk off mourinho (U20930)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Rice looked all set for Chelsea until Lampard got the boot according to some decent journos. Maybe Tuchel not as keen.
I'd definitely be happy if we got him. Fred is not a DM nor is he a footballer. He's just a great advert for Duracell. He never stops running.
I think he will stay at Westham though. The price will put many off.
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Apparently lampard wanting rice so much was a cause of tension between him and the board, who thought it'd be embarrassing to sign an ex academy player for a shed load of cash after releasing him
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I would sack him too for that. Losing your job over a clogger
On Carrick
He was very good at what he did. Unfortunately it is what he didn’t do which held him back from being a better player.
VC is unreconstructed in his Carrick scepticism, and not ashamed to say it.
TBF Robb championed Carrick on here a lot.
In fact I think he first joined here as a poster called Carrickature (or something like that).
comment by RB&W (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
TBF Robb championed Carrick on here a lot.
In fact I think he first joined here as a poster called Carrickature (or something like that).
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Thought he was fun rob?
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posted on 8/4/21
I imagine West Ham will value Rice at around 3 times the price we value Lingard.
posted on 8/4/21
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 5 minutes ago
I imagine West Ham will value Rice at around 3 times the price we value Lingard.
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Whatever the differential, I guess it's a lot narrower than it was before Lingard's loan move.
posted on 8/4/21
Still a bit unsure on Rice... Certainly an upgrade for that position, but a bit uninspiring, though I can't claim to watch too much of West Ham.
I just want a Carrick type... where have they gone?
posted on 8/4/21
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 11 minutes ago
I imagine West Ham will value Rice at around 3 times the price we value Lingard.
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Just move lindeloff or Maguire into midfield to achieve the same effect as buying Rice....
posted on 8/4/21
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 13 minutes ago
I imagine West Ham will value Rice at around 3 times the price we value Lingard.
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Fantastic. They can have Jesse on a free.
posted on 8/4/21
I just want a Carrick type... where have they gone?
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Thats what we need.
posted on 8/4/21
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 13 minutes ago
I imagine West Ham will value Rice at around 3 times the price we value Lingard.
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Fantastic. They can have Jesse on a free.
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Ed would admire your financial acumen. Can we replace Matt Judge with Diafol?
posted on 8/4/21
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 2 minutes ago
I just want a Carrick type... where have they gone?
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Thats what we need.
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It’s hardly like there’s been an abundance of Carrick types over the past 30 years. Very few players can do that role as well as Carrick did it.
posted on 8/4/21
They have also said that United are to make about £4m on the loan should this deal happen.
posted on 8/4/21
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 2 minutes ago
I just want a Carrick type... where have they gone?
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Thats what we need.
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It’s hardly like there’s been an abundance of Carrick types over the past 30 years. Very few players can do that role as well as Carrick did it.
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Rare as hen's teeth, but those type of players have been vital to some of the very best teams... UTD with Carrick, Barca with Busquets (the best), Real with Modric (not quite the same role, but similar in his later years).
posted on 8/4/21
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 2 minutes ago
I just want a Carrick type... where have they gone?
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Thats what we need.
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It’s hardly like there’s been an abundance of Carrick types over the past 30 years. Very few players can do that role as well as Carrick did it.
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Average, sideways-passing, one dimensional, slow and lethargic crab.
According to the JA606 United board. Until he retired.
posted on 8/4/21
Not a bad player, not a great player. Will cost well more than he's worth so no doubt will happen.
Will improve United's midfield. Kinda like Matic when he could get about with less technical ability.
posted on 8/4/21
I don't recall Carrick being so widely admired during his playing years. Not that he's a player who 'gets better the less he plays', more a case of not appreciating him until he's gone. Maybe it also takes received wisdom a while to catch up with paradigm shifts in football. Roy Keane was our stereotype of the midfield lynchpin, and at first glance you might see the more understated approach of Carrick as 'not doing much'. I remember people similarly questioning what Modric brought to the table when he was at Spurs, and a lot of people thinking Busquets was a one dimensional footballer. I don't remember seeing these views recently.
posted on 8/4/21
According to around 6 vocal, smooth brained UTD "fans" on the JA606 United board. Until he retired.
posted on 8/4/21
Rice has improved a lot
posted on 8/4/21
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't recall Carrick being so widely admired during his playing years. Not that he's a player who 'gets better the less he plays', more a case of not appreciating him until he's gone. Maybe it also takes received wisdom a while to catch up with paradigm shifts in football. Roy Keane was our stereotype of the midfield lynchpin, and at first glance you might see the more understated approach of Carrick as 'not doing much'. I remember people similarly questioning what Modric brought to the table when he was at Spurs, and a lot of people thinking Busquets was a one dimensional footballer. I don't remember seeing these views recently.
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I think there were a lot of people who assumed that Scholes carried Carrick. It wasn’t until Scholes moved on and MC became the man for us that people realised how good he was.
posted on 8/4/21
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 10 minutes ago
I don't recall Carrick being so widely admired during his playing years. Not that he's a player who 'gets better the less he plays', more a case of not appreciating him until he's gone. Maybe it also takes received wisdom a while to catch up with paradigm shifts in football. Roy Keane was our stereotype of the midfield lynchpin, and at first glance you might see the more understated approach of Carrick as 'not doing much'. I remember people similarly questioning what Modric brought to the table when he was at Spurs, and a lot of people thinking Busquets was a one dimensional footballer. I don't remember seeing these views recently.
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Carrick was absolutely torn to pieces on the United board for literally years.
posted on 8/4/21
I've wanted Rice at United for over a year, I hope we get him.
posted on 8/4/21
Rice looked all set for Chelsea until Lampard got the boot according to some decent journos. Maybe Tuchel not as keen.
I'd definitely be happy if we got him. Fred is not a DM nor is he a footballer. He's just a great advert for Duracell. He never stops running.
I think he will stay at Westham though. The price will put many off.
posted on 8/4/21
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Rice looked all set for Chelsea until Lampard got the boot according to some decent journos. Maybe Tuchel not as keen.
I'd definitely be happy if we got him. Fred is not a DM nor is he a footballer. He's just a great advert for Duracell. He never stops running.
I think he will stay at Westham though. The price will put many off.
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Apparently lampard wanting rice so much was a cause of tension between him and the board, who thought it'd be embarrassing to sign an ex academy player for a shed load of cash after releasing him
posted on 8/4/21
comment by Christo-pherk off mourinho (U20930)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Rice looked all set for Chelsea until Lampard got the boot according to some decent journos. Maybe Tuchel not as keen.
I'd definitely be happy if we got him. Fred is not a DM nor is he a footballer. He's just a great advert for Duracell. He never stops running.
I think he will stay at Westham though. The price will put many off.
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Apparently lampard wanting rice so much was a cause of tension between him and the board, who thought it'd be embarrassing to sign an ex academy player for a shed load of cash after releasing him
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I would sack him too for that. Losing your job over a clogger
posted on 8/4/21
On Carrick
He was very good at what he did. Unfortunately it is what he didn’t do which held him back from being a better player.
posted on 8/4/21
VC is unreconstructed in his Carrick scepticism, and not ashamed to say it.
posted on 8/4/21
TBF Robb championed Carrick on here a lot.
In fact I think he first joined here as a poster called Carrickature (or something like that).
posted on 8/4/21
comment by RB&W (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
TBF Robb championed Carrick on here a lot.
In fact I think he first joined here as a poster called Carrickature (or something like that).
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Thought he was fun rob?
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