Bruno gives the ball away a lot more than Fred.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 14 minutes ago
We need him because Bruno is out of form, and is losing the ball à lot, and somebody has to tidy up
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Him giving the ball away, a lot, was apparently a major reason why lots of other clubs didnt move to sign him. Coutinho had about a 75% pass rate though cos he took risks so there needs to be perspective on risk rather than a spreadsheet.
Got to say though that I thought he was very poor against Spurs and has been in most big games I've seen him. At the same time I think he gets special attention from oppo managers.
I think Utd are more of a team now too and go through him less but I still can't work him out really. An unlikable JWP is where I'm at atm.
Fred leaves his sweat stained shirt on the pitch every game good or bad, if Martial had 10% of Fred’s application and the occasional Fred smile he could be the player he is capable of
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 14 minutes ago
We need him because Bruno is out of form, and is losing the ball à lot, and somebody has to tidy up
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Him giving the ball away, a lot, was apparently a major reason why lots of other clubs didnt move to sign him. Coutinho had about a 75% pass rate though cos he took risks so there needs to be perspective on risk rather than a spreadsheet.
Got to say though that I thought he was very poor against Spurs and has been in most big games I've seen him. At the same time I think he gets special attention from oppo managers.
I think Utd are more of a team now too and go through him less but I still can't work him out really. An unlikable JWP is where I'm at atm.
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The nutmeg pass to Greenwood for his cross to Cavani was worth the admission money alone
Bit harsh. He's better than that.
The nutmeg pass to Greenwood for his cross to Cavani was worth the admission money alone
......
I am not that sure he was passing to Greenwood. It looked like he was knocking it into space for himself and Greenwood spotted Cavani’s run and crossed it instead of leaving it to Bruno.
I could be wrong of course but that is what I thought at the time and in every replay I have seen since.
Dazza & Rosso, I came back after a few hours and read your conversation. I'm afraid I get too absorbed in games to analyse what's happening to such a deep tactical level so I found it really enlightening.
BTW any material you would recommend reading on different approaches to pressing? I feel like I need to read up on tactics before I can contribute intelligently to this discussion!
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 20 minutes ago
The nutmeg pass to Greenwood for his cross to Cavani was worth the admission money alone
......
I am not that sure he was passing to Greenwood. It looked like he was knocking it into space for himself and Greenwood spotted Cavani’s run and crossed it instead of leaving it to Bruno.
I could be wrong of course but that is what I thought at the time and in every replay I have seen since.
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I said something similar on another thread:
“Hate to say it, but did Bruno mean that? It looked like he received the ball a bit sooner than he expected, turned to see the Spurs player on top of him and could only prod it through his legs. Not sure he meant it as a pass to Greenwood. Great play if he did and very subtle; the replay I've been watching is quite far from the action so it's hard to say.”
What the numpties don't get is the simplicity involved in being a proper footballer.
I'm not going into all the posting history for evidence, but I'll go out on a limb and suggest there is a probably a correlation between those that denigrate Fred and those that eulogised the clueless Herrera.
The difference is intelligence - of the footballing kind. Fred has it, Herrera merely did a lot of running around looking for it - at least I hope that was his excuse for all that headless chicken impersonating.
The current squad is not the strongest but, that aside, Fred should be one of the first 6 names on the team sheet.
Football, like life, is that simple.
I'm not going into all the posting history for evidence, but I'll go out on a limb and suggest there is a probably a correlation between those that denigrate Fred and those that eulogised the clueless Herrera.
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I like both of them, so now I don’t know where I am or what my name is.
Football, like me, is that simple.
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comment by IAmMe (U18491)
posted 26 minutes ago
What the numpties don't get is the simplicity involved in being a proper footballer.
I'm not going into all the posting history for evidence, but I'll go out on a limb and suggest there is a probably a correlation between those that denigrate Fred and those that eulogised the clueless Herrera.
The difference is intelligence - of the footballing kind. Fred has it, Herrera merely did a lot of running around looking for it - at least I hope that was his excuse for all that headless chicken impersonating.
The current squad is not the strongest but, that aside, Fred should be one of the first 6 names on the team sheet.
Football, like life, is that simple.
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Does anyone recall IAmMe ever posting a comment that didn't consist of unsupported assertion + 'you're all morons'?
rosso’s your man for those recommendations you’ve asked for, RR.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by IAmMe (U18491)
posted 26 minutes ago
What the numpties don't get is the simplicity involved in being a proper footballer.
I'm not going into all the posting history for evidence, but I'll go out on a limb and suggest there is a probably a correlation between those that denigrate Fred and those that eulogised the clueless Herrera.
The difference is intelligence - of the footballing kind. Fred has it, Herrera merely did a lot of running around looking for it - at least I hope that was his excuse for all that headless chicken impersonating.
The current squad is not the strongest but, that aside, Fred should be one of the first 6 names on the team sheet.
Football, like life, is that simple.
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Does anyone recall IAmMe ever posting a comment that didn't consist of unsupported assertion + 'you're all morons'?
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Tbf he’s an acknowledged genius
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by IAmMe (U18491)
posted 26 minutes ago
What the numpties don't get is the simplicity involved in being a proper footballer.
I'm not going into all the posting history for evidence, but I'll go out on a limb and suggest there is a probably a correlation between those that denigrate Fred and those that eulogised the clueless Herrera.
The difference is intelligence - of the footballing kind. Fred has it, Herrera merely did a lot of running around looking for it - at least I hope that was his excuse for all that headless chicken impersonating.
The current squad is not the strongest but, that aside, Fred should be one of the first 6 names on the team sheet.
Football, like life, is that simple.
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Does anyone recall IAmMe ever posting a comment that didn't consist of unsupported assertion + 'you're all morons'?
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No. And I think this might be the first time he’s mentioned Herrera without the word “directionless” cropping up. Genuinely thought it was some kind of autocomplete. Poor Ander has been demoted to “clueless” though.
Dazza and RR
I’ll get back to you both tomorrow, sorry. Been working flat out and am in desperate need of a good few hours of shut-eye.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 12 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by IAmMe (U18491)
posted 26 minutes ago
What the numpties don't get is the simplicity involved in being a proper footballer.
I'm not going into all the posting history for evidence, but I'll go out on a limb and suggest there is a probably a correlation between those that denigrate Fred and those that eulogised the clueless Herrera.
The difference is intelligence - of the footballing kind. Fred has it, Herrera merely did a lot of running around looking for it - at least I hope that was his excuse for all that headless chicken impersonating.
The current squad is not the strongest but, that aside, Fred should be one of the first 6 names on the team sheet.
Football, like life, is that simple.
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Does anyone recall IAmMe ever posting a comment that didn't consist of unsupported assertion + 'you're all morons'?
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Nope. I can't even think of a single instance in which he's engaged with another poster one on one.
Personally I choose to imagine that IAmMe is actually one of Barry's accounts, which would be genius.
If it's a parody account, he has really invested himself in it, with the typically self-important profile page and the external links to his somewhat lurid content. I'd have thought being Barry is a full-time job as it is, so I struggle to see IAmMe as a side project.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
If it's a parody account, he has really invested himself in it, with the typically self-important profile page and the external links to his somewhat lurid content. I'd have thought being Barry is a full-time job as it is, so I struggle to see IAmMe as a side project.
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All I know is, I'd pay good money to watch a documentary series called 'Being Barry'.
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
If it's a parody account, he has really invested himself in it, with the typically self-important profile page and the external links to his somewhat lurid content. I'd have thought being Barry is a full-time job as it is, so I struggle to see IAmMe as a side project.
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All I know is, I'd pay good money to watch a documentary series called 'Being Barry'.
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‘When Barry meets hafi’
(Trick show, there’s only 1 person in it).,
IAmMe has the most insane profile I've ever seen.
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 46 seconds ago
IAmMe has the most insane profile I've ever seen.
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Did you click through to his websites Robbing?
There's the kitschy digital artwork accompanied by intro text that's very much in the authorial voice of IAmMe. And then there's the link to his music - colourfully entitled 'space monkey apocalypse' or something - and I was genuinely disappointed that the site seems to have lapsed.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 46 seconds ago
IAmMe has the most insane profile I've ever seen.
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Did you click through to his websites Robbing?
There's the kitschy digital artwork accompanied by intro text that's very much in the authorial voice of IAmMe. And then there's the link to his music - colourfully entitled 'space monkey apocalypse' or something - and I was genuinely disappointed that the site seems to have lapsed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I had actually listened to his music some time ago, and have just re-acquainted myself with his artwork. There was some personal info on there that, I have to admit, was easy enough to verify that he's real (I was curious!) as far as I can tell.
He's an extraordinarily odd chap.
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 46 seconds ago
IAmMe has the most insane profile I've ever seen.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Did you click through to his websites Robbing?
There's the kitschy digital artwork accompanied by intro text that's very much in the authorial voice of IAmMe. And then there's the link to his music - colourfully entitled 'space monkey apocalypse' or something - and I was genuinely disappointed that the site seems to have lapsed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I had actually listened to his music some time ago, and have just re-acquainted myself with his artwork. There was some personal info on there that, I have to admit, was easy enough to verify that he's real (I was curious!) as far as I can tell.
He's an extraordinarily odd chap.
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It always makes me laugh when I think about one of the portraits on there and someone said IAmMe is Charlie Dimmock.
Isnt one of the bits of art a picture of Venom knocked together on what looks like Microsoft paint?
You could have given me 1,000,000 guesses as to what it would be and I wouldn't have got an anti hero from Spiderman.
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The Fred paradox
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posted on 12/4/21
Bruno gives the ball away a lot more than Fred.
posted on 12/4/21
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 14 minutes ago
We need him because Bruno is out of form, and is losing the ball à lot, and somebody has to tidy up
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Him giving the ball away, a lot, was apparently a major reason why lots of other clubs didnt move to sign him. Coutinho had about a 75% pass rate though cos he took risks so there needs to be perspective on risk rather than a spreadsheet.
Got to say though that I thought he was very poor against Spurs and has been in most big games I've seen him. At the same time I think he gets special attention from oppo managers.
I think Utd are more of a team now too and go through him less but I still can't work him out really. An unlikable JWP is where I'm at atm.
posted on 12/4/21
Fred leaves his sweat stained shirt on the pitch every game good or bad, if Martial had 10% of Fred’s application and the occasional Fred smile he could be the player he is capable of
posted on 12/4/21
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 14 minutes ago
We need him because Bruno is out of form, and is losing the ball à lot, and somebody has to tidy up
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Him giving the ball away, a lot, was apparently a major reason why lots of other clubs didnt move to sign him. Coutinho had about a 75% pass rate though cos he took risks so there needs to be perspective on risk rather than a spreadsheet.
Got to say though that I thought he was very poor against Spurs and has been in most big games I've seen him. At the same time I think he gets special attention from oppo managers.
I think Utd are more of a team now too and go through him less but I still can't work him out really. An unlikable JWP is where I'm at atm.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The nutmeg pass to Greenwood for his cross to Cavani was worth the admission money alone
posted on 12/4/21
Bit harsh. He's better than that.
posted on 12/4/21
The nutmeg pass to Greenwood for his cross to Cavani was worth the admission money alone
......
I am not that sure he was passing to Greenwood. It looked like he was knocking it into space for himself and Greenwood spotted Cavani’s run and crossed it instead of leaving it to Bruno.
I could be wrong of course but that is what I thought at the time and in every replay I have seen since.
posted on 12/4/21
Dazza & Rosso, I came back after a few hours and read your conversation. I'm afraid I get too absorbed in games to analyse what's happening to such a deep tactical level so I found it really enlightening.
BTW any material you would recommend reading on different approaches to pressing? I feel like I need to read up on tactics before I can contribute intelligently to this discussion!
posted on 12/4/21
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 20 minutes ago
The nutmeg pass to Greenwood for his cross to Cavani was worth the admission money alone
......
I am not that sure he was passing to Greenwood. It looked like he was knocking it into space for himself and Greenwood spotted Cavani’s run and crossed it instead of leaving it to Bruno.
I could be wrong of course but that is what I thought at the time and in every replay I have seen since.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I said something similar on another thread:
“Hate to say it, but did Bruno mean that? It looked like he received the ball a bit sooner than he expected, turned to see the Spurs player on top of him and could only prod it through his legs. Not sure he meant it as a pass to Greenwood. Great play if he did and very subtle; the replay I've been watching is quite far from the action so it's hard to say.”
posted on 12/4/21
What the numpties don't get is the simplicity involved in being a proper footballer.
I'm not going into all the posting history for evidence, but I'll go out on a limb and suggest there is a probably a correlation between those that denigrate Fred and those that eulogised the clueless Herrera.
The difference is intelligence - of the footballing kind. Fred has it, Herrera merely did a lot of running around looking for it - at least I hope that was his excuse for all that headless chicken impersonating.
The current squad is not the strongest but, that aside, Fred should be one of the first 6 names on the team sheet.
Football, like life, is that simple.
posted on 12/4/21
I'm not going into all the posting history for evidence, but I'll go out on a limb and suggest there is a probably a correlation between those that denigrate Fred and those that eulogised the clueless Herrera.
—————
I like both of them, so now I don’t know where I am or what my name is.
posted on 12/4/21
Football, like me, is that simple.
---------------
posted on 12/4/21
comment by IAmMe (U18491)
posted 26 minutes ago
What the numpties don't get is the simplicity involved in being a proper footballer.
I'm not going into all the posting history for evidence, but I'll go out on a limb and suggest there is a probably a correlation between those that denigrate Fred and those that eulogised the clueless Herrera.
The difference is intelligence - of the footballing kind. Fred has it, Herrera merely did a lot of running around looking for it - at least I hope that was his excuse for all that headless chicken impersonating.
The current squad is not the strongest but, that aside, Fred should be one of the first 6 names on the team sheet.
Football, like life, is that simple.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Does anyone recall IAmMe ever posting a comment that didn't consist of unsupported assertion + 'you're all morons'?
posted on 12/4/21
rosso’s your man for those recommendations you’ve asked for, RR.
posted on 12/4/21
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by IAmMe (U18491)
posted 26 minutes ago
What the numpties don't get is the simplicity involved in being a proper footballer.
I'm not going into all the posting history for evidence, but I'll go out on a limb and suggest there is a probably a correlation between those that denigrate Fred and those that eulogised the clueless Herrera.
The difference is intelligence - of the footballing kind. Fred has it, Herrera merely did a lot of running around looking for it - at least I hope that was his excuse for all that headless chicken impersonating.
The current squad is not the strongest but, that aside, Fred should be one of the first 6 names on the team sheet.
Football, like life, is that simple.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Does anyone recall IAmMe ever posting a comment that didn't consist of unsupported assertion + 'you're all morons'?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tbf he’s an acknowledged genius
posted on 12/4/21
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by IAmMe (U18491)
posted 26 minutes ago
What the numpties don't get is the simplicity involved in being a proper footballer.
I'm not going into all the posting history for evidence, but I'll go out on a limb and suggest there is a probably a correlation between those that denigrate Fred and those that eulogised the clueless Herrera.
The difference is intelligence - of the footballing kind. Fred has it, Herrera merely did a lot of running around looking for it - at least I hope that was his excuse for all that headless chicken impersonating.
The current squad is not the strongest but, that aside, Fred should be one of the first 6 names on the team sheet.
Football, like life, is that simple.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Does anyone recall IAmMe ever posting a comment that didn't consist of unsupported assertion + 'you're all morons'?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No. And I think this might be the first time he’s mentioned Herrera without the word “directionless” cropping up. Genuinely thought it was some kind of autocomplete. Poor Ander has been demoted to “clueless” though.
posted on 12/4/21
Dazza and RR
I’ll get back to you both tomorrow, sorry. Been working flat out and am in desperate need of a good few hours of shut-eye.
posted on 13/4/21
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 12 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by IAmMe (U18491)
posted 26 minutes ago
What the numpties don't get is the simplicity involved in being a proper footballer.
I'm not going into all the posting history for evidence, but I'll go out on a limb and suggest there is a probably a correlation between those that denigrate Fred and those that eulogised the clueless Herrera.
The difference is intelligence - of the footballing kind. Fred has it, Herrera merely did a lot of running around looking for it - at least I hope that was his excuse for all that headless chicken impersonating.
The current squad is not the strongest but, that aside, Fred should be one of the first 6 names on the team sheet.
Football, like life, is that simple.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Does anyone recall IAmMe ever posting a comment that didn't consist of unsupported assertion + 'you're all morons'?
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Nope. I can't even think of a single instance in which he's engaged with another poster one on one.
Personally I choose to imagine that IAmMe is actually one of Barry's accounts, which would be genius.
posted on 13/4/21
If it's a parody account, he has really invested himself in it, with the typically self-important profile page and the external links to his somewhat lurid content. I'd have thought being Barry is a full-time job as it is, so I struggle to see IAmMe as a side project.
posted on 13/4/21
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
If it's a parody account, he has really invested himself in it, with the typically self-important profile page and the external links to his somewhat lurid content. I'd have thought being Barry is a full-time job as it is, so I struggle to see IAmMe as a side project.
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All I know is, I'd pay good money to watch a documentary series called 'Being Barry'.
posted on 13/4/21
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
If it's a parody account, he has really invested himself in it, with the typically self-important profile page and the external links to his somewhat lurid content. I'd have thought being Barry is a full-time job as it is, so I struggle to see IAmMe as a side project.
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All I know is, I'd pay good money to watch a documentary series called 'Being Barry'.
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‘When Barry meets hafi’
(Trick show, there’s only 1 person in it).,
posted on 13/4/21
IAmMe has the most insane profile I've ever seen.
posted on 13/4/21
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 46 seconds ago
IAmMe has the most insane profile I've ever seen.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Did you click through to his websites Robbing?
There's the kitschy digital artwork accompanied by intro text that's very much in the authorial voice of IAmMe. And then there's the link to his music - colourfully entitled 'space monkey apocalypse' or something - and I was genuinely disappointed that the site seems to have lapsed.
posted on 13/4/21
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 46 seconds ago
IAmMe has the most insane profile I've ever seen.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Did you click through to his websites Robbing?
There's the kitschy digital artwork accompanied by intro text that's very much in the authorial voice of IAmMe. And then there's the link to his music - colourfully entitled 'space monkey apocalypse' or something - and I was genuinely disappointed that the site seems to have lapsed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I had actually listened to his music some time ago, and have just re-acquainted myself with his artwork. There was some personal info on there that, I have to admit, was easy enough to verify that he's real (I was curious!) as far as I can tell.
He's an extraordinarily odd chap.
posted on 13/4/21
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 46 seconds ago
IAmMe has the most insane profile I've ever seen.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Did you click through to his websites Robbing?
There's the kitschy digital artwork accompanied by intro text that's very much in the authorial voice of IAmMe. And then there's the link to his music - colourfully entitled 'space monkey apocalypse' or something - and I was genuinely disappointed that the site seems to have lapsed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I had actually listened to his music some time ago, and have just re-acquainted myself with his artwork. There was some personal info on there that, I have to admit, was easy enough to verify that he's real (I was curious!) as far as I can tell.
He's an extraordinarily odd chap.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It always makes me laugh when I think about one of the portraits on there and someone said IAmMe is Charlie Dimmock.
posted on 13/4/21
Isnt one of the bits of art a picture of Venom knocked together on what looks like Microsoft paint?
You could have given me 1,000,000 guesses as to what it would be and I wouldn't have got an anti hero from Spiderman.
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