get this shat of the utd board ffs
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 6 minutes ago
get this shat of the utd board ffs
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It's not on the United board ?
The thing is Griezemann consistently for years before coming to Barcelona one of the only ways to best ways to describe him would be ‘effective’. Even with the fears of him fitting into their style of play I didn’t think he’d be this unproductive in terms of simple goals and assists. Even though at Barce he’s struggled Atletico to me have also appeared to struggle from lacking someone who was as clinical and yet creative/spontaneous as he was. Joao Felix was a good spot to replicate what Griezemann bought but clearly still growing into his potential.
As for Neymar, great player. Mbappe too. Both still don’t quite get the respect they deserve sometimes
Yeah Neymar tore Bayern apart in that 1-0 Bayern win
comment by Kaiser Havertz (U5245)
posted 1 minute ago
Yeah Neymar tore Bayern apart in that 1-0 Bayern win
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Watch the highlights mate, he did tear them apart and barring bad luck would've got himself 3 goals.
comment by Vorsprung durch Tuchel (U1641)
posted 9 minutes ago
The thing is Griezemann consistently for years before coming to Barcelona one of the only ways to best ways to describe him would be ‘effective’. Even with the fears of him fitting into their style of play I didn’t think he’d be this unproductive in terms of simple goals and assists. Even though at Barce he’s struggled Atletico to me have also appeared to struggle from lacking someone who was as clinical and yet creative/spontaneous as he was. Joao Felix was a good spot to replicate what Griezemann bought but clearly still growing into his potential.
As for Neymar, great player. Mbappe too. Both still don’t quite get the respect they deserve sometimes
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Griezmann shirks responsibility too often. Especially in big games... look at Neymar on big occasions though. He demands the ball and relishes it. Griezmann is like a mouse who wants to hide.
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
comment by Kaiser Havertz (U5245)
posted 1 minute ago
Yeah Neymar tore Bayern apart in that 1-0 Bayern win
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Watch the highlights mate, he did tear them apart and barring bad luck would've got himself 3 goals.
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More down to poor finishing than bad luck
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
comment by Kaiser Havertz (U5245)
posted 1 minute ago
Yeah Neymar tore Bayern apart in that 1-0 Bayern win
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Watch the highlights mate, he did tear them apart and barring bad luck would've got himself 3 goals.
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More down to poor finishing than bad luck
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Disagree Boris. Hit the woodwork three times and how was the Rashfordesque shot that hit the bar bad finishing?
While the broader point is taken, don't you think Griezmann would be more effective if he had simply slotted into Neymar's position in the highly-functioning side Neymar played in?
By the time Griezmann joined, there had been a noticeable decline in some of the key players Neymar had played with, and others had already left and not been adequately replaced.
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comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 36 minutes ago
While the broader point is taken, don't you think Griezmann would be more effective if he had simply slotted into Neymar's position in the highly-functioning side Neymar played in?
By the time Griezmann joined, there had been a noticeable decline in some of the key players Neymar had played with, and others had already left and not been adequately replaced.
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No because he isn't talented or effective enough. If Griezmann joined the 2011 or 2015 Barca he still would've been poor.
So he wouldn't have been more effective in a highly-functioning team than in a dysfunctional team? You know, kind of like he was at his previous club, or like G Jesus is for Man City.
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comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
So he wouldn't have been more effective in a highly-functioning team than in a dysfunctional team? You know, kind of like he was at his previous club, or like G Jesus is for Man City.
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No I do not think so. He wouldn't have been able to fit in properly and he hides too much on the pitch. The reason (imo) he looked so good at Atletico is because they were such a defensive team, meaning he stood out more as a decent attacking player. For example if a decent defender like, say, Rudiger went to Arsenal where they are woeful defensively he would suddenly look world class because of what is around him. Name one top drawer forward Griezmann played with at Atletico?? Torres was past it, Costa at Chelsea and Mandzukic left too.
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Last night was the first time for ages I've watched Neymar and been impressed. Poch really seems to have got him, and Mbappe, going. The other 9 not so much.
comment by Kamikaze Blue (U7450)
posted 7 minutes ago
Last night was the first time for ages I've watched Neymar and been impressed. Poch really seems to have got him, and Mbappe, going. The other 9 not so much.
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Neymar is the best 'big game' player in the world at the moment. He loves big matches.
No I do not think so. He wouldn't have been able to fit in properly and he hides too much on the pitch. The reason (imo) he looked so good at Atletico is because they were such a defensive team, meaning he stood out more as a decent attacking player.
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What you have said about Atletico though is a classic example of a "functional" side, because they had a clear strategy.
I wouldn't say he wouldn't fit into a more fluid Barca side like the one Neymar played in, because I don't doubt he would, although there are times where it does take players time to adjust from a certain system to another, as Atletico and Barca play in contrasting styles. I still think Griezmann could be effective in the side that Neymar was playing in. Maybe not as good however.
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posted on 14/4/21
get this shat of the utd board ffs
posted on 14/4/21
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 6 minutes ago
get this shat of the utd board ffs
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It's not on the United board ?
posted on 14/4/21
The thing is Griezemann consistently for years before coming to Barcelona one of the only ways to best ways to describe him would be ‘effective’. Even with the fears of him fitting into their style of play I didn’t think he’d be this unproductive in terms of simple goals and assists. Even though at Barce he’s struggled Atletico to me have also appeared to struggle from lacking someone who was as clinical and yet creative/spontaneous as he was. Joao Felix was a good spot to replicate what Griezemann bought but clearly still growing into his potential.
As for Neymar, great player. Mbappe too. Both still don’t quite get the respect they deserve sometimes
posted on 14/4/21
Yeah Neymar tore Bayern apart in that 1-0 Bayern win
posted on 14/4/21
comment by Kaiser Havertz (U5245)
posted 1 minute ago
Yeah Neymar tore Bayern apart in that 1-0 Bayern win
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Watch the highlights mate, he did tear them apart and barring bad luck would've got himself 3 goals.
posted on 14/4/21
comment by Vorsprung durch Tuchel (U1641)
posted 9 minutes ago
The thing is Griezemann consistently for years before coming to Barcelona one of the only ways to best ways to describe him would be ‘effective’. Even with the fears of him fitting into their style of play I didn’t think he’d be this unproductive in terms of simple goals and assists. Even though at Barce he’s struggled Atletico to me have also appeared to struggle from lacking someone who was as clinical and yet creative/spontaneous as he was. Joao Felix was a good spot to replicate what Griezemann bought but clearly still growing into his potential.
As for Neymar, great player. Mbappe too. Both still don’t quite get the respect they deserve sometimes
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Griezmann shirks responsibility too often. Especially in big games... look at Neymar on big occasions though. He demands the ball and relishes it. Griezmann is like a mouse who wants to hide.
posted on 14/4/21
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
comment by Kaiser Havertz (U5245)
posted 1 minute ago
Yeah Neymar tore Bayern apart in that 1-0 Bayern win
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Watch the highlights mate, he did tear them apart and barring bad luck would've got himself 3 goals.
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More down to poor finishing than bad luck
posted on 14/4/21
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
comment by Kaiser Havertz (U5245)
posted 1 minute ago
Yeah Neymar tore Bayern apart in that 1-0 Bayern win
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Watch the highlights mate, he did tear them apart and barring bad luck would've got himself 3 goals.
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More down to poor finishing than bad luck
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Disagree Boris. Hit the woodwork three times and how was the Rashfordesque shot that hit the bar bad finishing?
posted on 14/4/21
While the broader point is taken, don't you think Griezmann would be more effective if he had simply slotted into Neymar's position in the highly-functioning side Neymar played in?
By the time Griezmann joined, there had been a noticeable decline in some of the key players Neymar had played with, and others had already left and not been adequately replaced.
posted on 14/4/21
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posted on 14/4/21
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 36 minutes ago
While the broader point is taken, don't you think Griezmann would be more effective if he had simply slotted into Neymar's position in the highly-functioning side Neymar played in?
By the time Griezmann joined, there had been a noticeable decline in some of the key players Neymar had played with, and others had already left and not been adequately replaced.
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No because he isn't talented or effective enough. If Griezmann joined the 2011 or 2015 Barca he still would've been poor.
posted on 14/4/21
So he wouldn't have been more effective in a highly-functioning team than in a dysfunctional team? You know, kind of like he was at his previous club, or like G Jesus is for Man City.
posted on 14/4/21
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posted on 14/4/21
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
So he wouldn't have been more effective in a highly-functioning team than in a dysfunctional team? You know, kind of like he was at his previous club, or like G Jesus is for Man City.
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No I do not think so. He wouldn't have been able to fit in properly and he hides too much on the pitch. The reason (imo) he looked so good at Atletico is because they were such a defensive team, meaning he stood out more as a decent attacking player. For example if a decent defender like, say, Rudiger went to Arsenal where they are woeful defensively he would suddenly look world class because of what is around him. Name one top drawer forward Griezmann played with at Atletico?? Torres was past it, Costa at Chelsea and Mandzukic left too.
posted on 14/4/21
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posted on 14/4/21
Last night was the first time for ages I've watched Neymar and been impressed. Poch really seems to have got him, and Mbappe, going. The other 9 not so much.
posted on 14/4/21
comment by Kamikaze Blue (U7450)
posted 7 minutes ago
Last night was the first time for ages I've watched Neymar and been impressed. Poch really seems to have got him, and Mbappe, going. The other 9 not so much.
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Neymar is the best 'big game' player in the world at the moment. He loves big matches.
posted on 14/4/21
No I do not think so. He wouldn't have been able to fit in properly and he hides too much on the pitch. The reason (imo) he looked so good at Atletico is because they were such a defensive team, meaning he stood out more as a decent attacking player.
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What you have said about Atletico though is a classic example of a "functional" side, because they had a clear strategy.
I wouldn't say he wouldn't fit into a more fluid Barca side like the one Neymar played in, because I don't doubt he would, although there are times where it does take players time to adjust from a certain system to another, as Atletico and Barca play in contrasting styles. I still think Griezmann could be effective in the side that Neymar was playing in. Maybe not as good however.
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