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posted on 18/4/21

comment by Edinspur - Graham Potter Fan Club (U1109)
posted 11 minutes ago
Well using your bizarre ‘since 2000’ metric (which massively misses the whole point anyway).

Hoddle
Santini
Jol
Ramos
Redknapp
AVB
Poch
Jose
(8)

Vs

Ranieri
Mourinho
Scolari
Ancelotti
AVB
RDM
Mourinho
Conte
Sarri
Lampard
Tuchel

(11)
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Using the start 9f Accenture is hardly bizarre and I would argue Bates wax pretty decisive in sacking managers too.

I just no evidence of long term strategy at Spurs this century. The tipping point was the CLfinal and the club not recognising that was the strategicmoment to strike. Instead they sat back on their laurels and let the manager down.

posted on 18/4/21

Start of a century *

posted on 18/4/21

Your stats were also just way off

posted on 18/4/21

comment by Edinspur - Graham Potter Fan Club (U1109)
posted 5 minutes ago
Your stats were also just way off
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I don't think so. The numbers demonstrate that Spurs will go through a lot of managers and that there has been no strategic project.

At Chelsea,if you look past the managers,there has been more of a strategy beneath the first team especially at academy level delivering bot financial return and now quality players.

posted on 18/4/21

I hope you don’t have a job where you have use numbers to make a credible argument

posted on 18/4/21

comment by Edinspur - Graham Potter Fan Club (U1109)
posted 33 minutes ago
I hope you don’t have a job where you have use numbers to make a credible argument
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Lol at that comment comparing posts on this forum to the serious world.

posted on 18/4/21

But good attempt at distraction from your original list

posted on 18/4/21

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posted on 18/4/21

Boris to be fair ref decisions played a part. Stoke scored a perfectly good goal against Man City which was disallowed. Man Utd conceded a goal from a corner that never was against Wigan. Even people 1 mile away should be able to see that. Then we were denied a clear penalty. 2 decisions that cost us 3 points in 1 game.

Similar thing happened this season in Sheffield United game, 2 wrong decisions cost us 3 points.

posted on 18/4/21

comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 15 minutes ago
But good attempt at distraction from your original list
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You literally didn’t address any of the other points I made, except for the list. Which you got wrong a multitude of times. Your contribution is lacking any credibility

posted on 18/4/21

comment by Edinspur - Graham Potter Fan Club (U1109)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 15 minutes ago
But good attempt at distraction from your original list
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You literally didn’t address any of the other points I made, except for the list. Which you got wrong a multitude of times. Your contribution is lacking any credibility
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The sub point was Spurs have got through a lot of managers just like Chelsea. If you deny that then you have the credibility issue,not me.

The main point is that Spurs have had no strategy for the main part this century and if there was one under Poch they flecked it choosing a stadium over investing in the team and have not gone back to square one and lost about3 to 5 years in the process.

posted on 18/4/21

So the question is who should Spurs be comparing themselves too. Is it to a team that sacks a load of managers and still wins feck all?

posted on 18/4/21

Off the field ENIC have been incredible in delivering the stadium and training ground, plus big sponsorship deals.

We now need someone to come in that wants success delivering trophies and investing in the squad.

I believe Lewis is more to blame for how tight we are rather than Levy though.

posted on 18/4/21

Based on the lists Chelsea have had over a third more managers than spurs in the weirdly specific and irrelevant time frame. So not really comparable. Also not really relevant to the point anyway, Chelsea managers have a short cycle no matter how they do. Spurs have usually taken a manager or two to find a successful candidate (Poch, Redknapp, Jol) and then given that candidate the time and opportunity (not really the money).

We have plenty of strategy - and have been a club on the up from Levy joining us. BMJ made us a team competing for European spots. Arry competing for CL places. Poch CL regulars and trophy challengers. All three succeeded in their jobs and where given some time - with Jol being the only one of the three not afforded 3 seasons (something no Chelsea manager has achieved in a row under Roman). Our club has only reached the stature it is at currently in the last few years.

comment by Devil (U6522)

posted on 18/4/21

The blueprint he should be trying to emulate is something similar to Dortmund's model. Big low, sell high (rivals or not, doesn't matter) with a consistent style of play which attracts specific types of players & managers. He's had that at certain points, but makes a few boneheaded decisions here & there, Mourinho being the latest, that sets you back.

Levy's never gunna be about the silver (like Roman) unless it's lining his pockets, just the way it is, so he needs to give Spurs a very potent identity outside of that.

posted on 18/4/21

comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 4 hours, 41 minutes ago
I’ve said for a while that Dortmund should be the blueprint spurs follow.
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This. We need to start developing young players again. Sell them big when the offers come and move on to the next.

posted on 18/4/21

comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 4 hours, 41 minutes ago
I’ve said for a while that Dortmund should be the blueprint spurs follow.
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This. We need to start developing young players again. Sell them big when the offers come and move on to the next.
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In hindsight, selling Dier and Alli at their peak would have been great business.

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