We don't know the full details yet but it doesn't sound like that's it at all.
For starters if they can be no relegation or promotion to this super League then what would the teams not involved have to look forward to? They'd never play European football again at least not on the stage we are used to.
I think this is a threat from the big clubs. About getting more TV money rather than sharing it equally. And it's also about taking away some of the ridiculous advantage of the oil clubs.
If the governing bodies followed up on their threats, all the clubs involved would be kicked out of their leagues, and their players potentially banned from all FIFA, UEFA and FA competitions.
If that were the case, then it would mean a bit more than simply replacing the CL.
The Champions League does not guarantee participation to the original clubs who took part.
I wouldnt be surprised if this is just a move to put pressure on the decision makers and make sure the proposed CL changes are approved.
These 6 clubs want CL every season, and increasing the size of the tournament increases their chances of that.
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 13 seconds ago
And it's also about taking away some of the ridiculous advantage of the oil clubs.
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How would that work?
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 43 seconds ago
If the governing bodies followed up on their threats, all the clubs involved would be kicked out of their leagues, and their players potentially banned from all FIFA, UEFA and FA competitions.
If that were the case, then it would mean a bit more than simply replacing the CL.
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they wont do that because theyre just as greedy if not more than the ones breaking away are being accused of.
lets not forget how corrupt and its been proven ffs, fifa and uefa are and have been.
Your understanding is wrong. It's a completely separate competition, on top of all existing ones. Dolla dolla billz yall
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 13 seconds ago
And it's also about taking away some of the ridiculous advantage of the oil clubs.
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How would that work?
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Well TV rights seem to be at the heart of this. If Utd sold their own TV rights City wouldn't be able to compete. At least not as easily anyway.
This is about making more money of course but also about the status quo being challenged by oil rich countries too.
Barcelona are €1b in debt, Juve had to find €100m.in emergency funding to pay wages in February, it's a way for the 'elite' to secure their status and balance sheets, also the clubs from England are leveraged with huge debt from their owners using the club's own finances to basically pay the purchase of the club
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 13 seconds ago
And it's also about taking away some of the ridiculous advantage of the oil clubs.
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How would that work?
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Well TV rights seem to be at the heart of this. If Utd sold their own TV rights City wouldn't be able to compete. At least not as easily anyway.
This is about making more money of course but also about the status quo being challenged by oil rich countries too.
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city would blow the rest out of the water illegally ofc, they'd pay for countries populations to get man city games for free or something and claim theyve got loads of fans buy subscriptions to their games.
It starts with changing from the CL but will then move on to wanting games on Saturday, dropping out of domestic cup competitions so they can take every ounce of money possible.
I hope they do leave and I hope the ESL crumbles before the decade is out forcing all these clubs to be wound up and no longer exist, they certainly won't be greeted back to the top tier of their countries when it does fail. It's a novelty league that will lose the little veneer of appeal it has to anyone who thinks it's a good idea, which isn't anyone I've spoken to so far
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 13 seconds ago
And it's also about taking away some of the ridiculous advantage of the oil clubs.
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How would that work?
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Well TV rights seem to be at the heart of this. If Utd sold their own TV rights City wouldn't be able to compete. At least not as easily anyway.
This is about making more money of course but also about the status quo being challenged by oil rich countries too.
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city would blow the rest out of the water illegally ofc, they'd pay for countries populations to get man city games for free or something and claim theyve got loads of fans buy subscriptions to their games.
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Possibly however I'm not so sure it would work.
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● 2020* 2021* (U3924)
posted 8 minutes ago
I wouldnt be surprised if this is just a move to put pressure on the decision makers and make sure the proposed CL changes are approved.
These 6 clubs want CL every season, and increasing the size of the tournament increases their chances of that.
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Exactly
I don't agree with it anymore than the next man but as far as I can work out if the 12 teams involved play each other home and away then thats 22 games.
Why does that rule the 6 English teams out from playing in the the Prem, FA Cup and League Cup.
Its not unusual for teams who go deep into the Europa/CL to play over 60 games a season so its already nearly being done.
Had it not been for Covid Spurs would have played 12 games in the Europa just to get through the group stage. As it was it took 9.
It's designed for 16 teams, the format isn't completely out of imagine it would be a league plus knockouts
Rule L9 is what you want with regards to this, the competition is an unsanctioned competition, with FIFA, UEFA and national associations sunning the show and unwilling to sanction it, they have to breakaway, meaning they are ineligible to play in any competition that falls under the FIFA umbrella
Personally that six or any other six can leave if to they want, I couldn't care less.
I'm not a football fan, I'm a West Ham supporter. I enjoy going to matches just as much to watch us play Leicester, Everton, Norwich, Newcastle or whoever as any as the so called big six.
Now English fans are angry, not happy that the carve up between the TV nation's has gone too far. Hypocrites.
I wouldn't be against it replacing the Champions League.
If United still competed in the Premier League, but played their European games in the Super League then that's fine to me.
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● 2020* 2021* (U3924)
posted 24 minutes ago
I wouldnt be surprised if this is just a move to put pressure on the decision makers and make sure the proposed CL changes are approved.
These 6 clubs want CL every season, and increasing the size of the tournament increases their chances of that.
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Penalty to united
Im against the idea but its a bit hypocritical of the Premier League to criticise a breakaway of top clubs.
Their is no moral authority in this discussion, just different sets of vested interests.
From my understanding of this, there's no relegations/promotions for this. It's the same # of teams every year like it is in the US (NFL, NBA, MLB, etc.)
It's great if your team doesn't suck. When they do hit a brick wall (using any Houston sports teams as an example), there's no incentive unless you get a new batch of talents coming from the amateur ranks. I'm not sure how this Super League will work on that front.
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 28 minutes ago
We don't know the full details yet but it doesn't sound like that's it at all.
For starters if they can be no relegation or promotion to this super League then what would the teams not involved have to look forward to? They'd never play European football again at least not on the stage we are used to.
I think this is a threat from the big clubs. About getting more TV money rather than sharing it equally. And it's also about taking away some of the ridiculous advantage of the oil clubs.
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So you preferred it when Liverpool and yourselves had that ridiculous advantage!
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 14 minutes ago
city would blow the rest out of the water illegally ofc, they'd pay for countries populations to get man city games for free or something and claim theyve got loads of fans buy subscriptions to their games.
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Possibly however I'm not so sure it would work.
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What inbefore said is basically what i was thinking. Either the other clubs have it all very well thought out, or the spending capacity of the likes of City (and PSG, if they eventually joined too) would just blow the rest out of the water.
And to begin with at least, they'd all surely be more than happy to accept any money that could be pumped into the league.
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posted on 18/4/21
We don't know the full details yet but it doesn't sound like that's it at all.
For starters if they can be no relegation or promotion to this super League then what would the teams not involved have to look forward to? They'd never play European football again at least not on the stage we are used to.
I think this is a threat from the big clubs. About getting more TV money rather than sharing it equally. And it's also about taking away some of the ridiculous advantage of the oil clubs.
posted on 18/4/21
If the governing bodies followed up on their threats, all the clubs involved would be kicked out of their leagues, and their players potentially banned from all FIFA, UEFA and FA competitions.
If that were the case, then it would mean a bit more than simply replacing the CL.
posted on 18/4/21
The Champions League does not guarantee participation to the original clubs who took part.
posted on 18/4/21
I wouldnt be surprised if this is just a move to put pressure on the decision makers and make sure the proposed CL changes are approved.
These 6 clubs want CL every season, and increasing the size of the tournament increases their chances of that.
posted on 18/4/21
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 13 seconds ago
And it's also about taking away some of the ridiculous advantage of the oil clubs.
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How would that work?
posted on 18/4/21
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 43 seconds ago
If the governing bodies followed up on their threats, all the clubs involved would be kicked out of their leagues, and their players potentially banned from all FIFA, UEFA and FA competitions.
If that were the case, then it would mean a bit more than simply replacing the CL.
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they wont do that because theyre just as greedy if not more than the ones breaking away are being accused of.
lets not forget how corrupt and its been proven ffs, fifa and uefa are and have been.
posted on 18/4/21
Your understanding is wrong. It's a completely separate competition, on top of all existing ones. Dolla dolla billz yall
posted on 18/4/21
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 13 seconds ago
And it's also about taking away some of the ridiculous advantage of the oil clubs.
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How would that work?
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Well TV rights seem to be at the heart of this. If Utd sold their own TV rights City wouldn't be able to compete. At least not as easily anyway.
This is about making more money of course but also about the status quo being challenged by oil rich countries too.
posted on 18/4/21
Barcelona are €1b in debt, Juve had to find €100m.in emergency funding to pay wages in February, it's a way for the 'elite' to secure their status and balance sheets, also the clubs from England are leveraged with huge debt from their owners using the club's own finances to basically pay the purchase of the club
posted on 18/4/21
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 13 seconds ago
And it's also about taking away some of the ridiculous advantage of the oil clubs.
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How would that work?
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Well TV rights seem to be at the heart of this. If Utd sold their own TV rights City wouldn't be able to compete. At least not as easily anyway.
This is about making more money of course but also about the status quo being challenged by oil rich countries too.
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city would blow the rest out of the water illegally ofc, they'd pay for countries populations to get man city games for free or something and claim theyve got loads of fans buy subscriptions to their games.
posted on 18/4/21
It starts with changing from the CL but will then move on to wanting games on Saturday, dropping out of domestic cup competitions so they can take every ounce of money possible.
posted on 18/4/21
I hope they do leave and I hope the ESL crumbles before the decade is out forcing all these clubs to be wound up and no longer exist, they certainly won't be greeted back to the top tier of their countries when it does fail. It's a novelty league that will lose the little veneer of appeal it has to anyone who thinks it's a good idea, which isn't anyone I've spoken to so far
posted on 18/4/21
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 13 seconds ago
And it's also about taking away some of the ridiculous advantage of the oil clubs.
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How would that work?
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Well TV rights seem to be at the heart of this. If Utd sold their own TV rights City wouldn't be able to compete. At least not as easily anyway.
This is about making more money of course but also about the status quo being challenged by oil rich countries too.
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city would blow the rest out of the water illegally ofc, they'd pay for countries populations to get man city games for free or something and claim theyve got loads of fans buy subscriptions to their games.
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Possibly however I'm not so sure it would work.
posted on 18/4/21
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● 2020* 2021* (U3924)
posted 8 minutes ago
I wouldnt be surprised if this is just a move to put pressure on the decision makers and make sure the proposed CL changes are approved.
These 6 clubs want CL every season, and increasing the size of the tournament increases their chances of that.
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Exactly
posted on 18/4/21
I don't agree with it anymore than the next man but as far as I can work out if the 12 teams involved play each other home and away then thats 22 games.
Why does that rule the 6 English teams out from playing in the the Prem, FA Cup and League Cup.
Its not unusual for teams who go deep into the Europa/CL to play over 60 games a season so its already nearly being done.
Had it not been for Covid Spurs would have played 12 games in the Europa just to get through the group stage. As it was it took 9.
posted on 18/4/21
It's designed for 16 teams, the format isn't completely out of imagine it would be a league plus knockouts
Rule L9 is what you want with regards to this, the competition is an unsanctioned competition, with FIFA, UEFA and national associations sunning the show and unwilling to sanction it, they have to breakaway, meaning they are ineligible to play in any competition that falls under the FIFA umbrella
posted on 18/4/21
Personally that six or any other six can leave if to they want, I couldn't care less.
I'm not a football fan, I'm a West Ham supporter. I enjoy going to matches just as much to watch us play Leicester, Everton, Norwich, Newcastle or whoever as any as the so called big six.
posted on 18/4/21
Now English fans are angry, not happy that the carve up between the TV nation's has gone too far. Hypocrites.
posted on 18/4/21
I wouldn't be against it replacing the Champions League.
If United still competed in the Premier League, but played their European games in the Super League then that's fine to me.
posted on 18/4/21
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● 2020* 2021* (U3924)
posted 24 minutes ago
I wouldnt be surprised if this is just a move to put pressure on the decision makers and make sure the proposed CL changes are approved.
These 6 clubs want CL every season, and increasing the size of the tournament increases their chances of that.
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Penalty to united
posted on 18/4/21
Im against the idea but its a bit hypocritical of the Premier League to criticise a breakaway of top clubs.
posted on 18/4/21
Their is no moral authority in this discussion, just different sets of vested interests.
posted on 18/4/21
From my understanding of this, there's no relegations/promotions for this. It's the same # of teams every year like it is in the US (NFL, NBA, MLB, etc.)
It's great if your team doesn't suck. When they do hit a brick wall (using any Houston sports teams as an example), there's no incentive unless you get a new batch of talents coming from the amateur ranks. I'm not sure how this Super League will work on that front.
posted on 18/4/21
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 28 minutes ago
We don't know the full details yet but it doesn't sound like that's it at all.
For starters if they can be no relegation or promotion to this super League then what would the teams not involved have to look forward to? They'd never play European football again at least not on the stage we are used to.
I think this is a threat from the big clubs. About getting more TV money rather than sharing it equally. And it's also about taking away some of the ridiculous advantage of the oil clubs.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So you preferred it when Liverpool and yourselves had that ridiculous advantage!
posted on 18/4/21
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 14 minutes ago
city would blow the rest out of the water illegally ofc, they'd pay for countries populations to get man city games for free or something and claim theyve got loads of fans buy subscriptions to their games.
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Possibly however I'm not so sure it would work.
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What inbefore said is basically what i was thinking. Either the other clubs have it all very well thought out, or the spending capacity of the likes of City (and PSG, if they eventually joined too) would just blow the rest out of the water.
And to begin with at least, they'd all surely be more than happy to accept any money that could be pumped into the league.
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