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posted on 26/4/21

comment by Sut mine klunker - Admin 5 (U1250)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by Sut mine klunker - Admin 5 (U1250)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 4 minutes ago
Why is that Laporte thing even a debate? Do you really think if he was on a yellow for the first he would have committed the foul that led to the second? Moura was on the halfway line. If Laporte had let him go on account of him being on a yellow it's extremely doubtful anything would have come of it anyway. It's naive to suggest that the tackle would have remained the same. City absolutely tore us apart and were it not for woeful finishing, brilliant goalkeeping and heroic defending, it would have been a cricket score. We have no grounds to moan about decisions.

On your point about City's dominance - yes they spend big but no bigger than United and Chelsea, who in recent years (apart from this one with United) we've competed closely with in the league. There's one reason and one reason only (no, I'm not Ted Hastings) why City are as dominant as they are - Pep Guardiola. He won't be there forever. Prior to his arrival, sure they won things, but they certainly weren't dominant. That will change eventually. We should be using it as an inspiration rather than poking it with a stick. I think the most they've spent on one player is for Dias at around £60m. That's the same as Ndombele roughly. It's about getting every area right. Owners, recruitment, manager, style of play. Sure money helps but whilst it can buy you trophies, it can't buy domination.
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City did not tear us apart! They dominated the ball but they didnt create a huge amount of chances and they didnt miss any sitters and won from a set piece. "woeful finishing" is a complete exaggeration but even still, finishing is a skill like any other part of the game so if they were guilty of woeful finishing that is a criticism of them not us being lucky. Don't get me wrong, we were barely in the game, but we actually defended pretty well.

As for the Laporte thing, Lucas may have been on the half way line but beyond Laporte he was effectively clean through & no way Laporte was catching him so who knows what may have come from that situation. It should not be dismissed so easily that City always foul to break up the counter attacks and player like Fernandino have denied belief in the past with the amount of fouls he gives away without being booked. Just more weak reffing and this whole "dont book a player early in the game" BS is inexcusable.
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City did not tear us apart! They dominated the ball but they didnt create a huge amount of chances
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Yeah, they only mustered 21 shots
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How many top class saves did Lloris have to make? Why was he not man of the match if they "tore us apart" "had 21 shots" and yet managed 1 goal from a set piece.
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2 at least

Based on your shots your XG was 0.4, City was xG 3.6 or something. I know its all Hafi bullcrap but tell you that City did outclass you.
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No they were way better. All i said was they didnt "tear us apart" and we werent saved from a thrashing by "woeful finishing". There was lots of last ditch challenges and blocks to protect our goal. Many shots from from outside/edge of area and we defended in numbers which limited our ability to attack, which we did little of.

I mean WTF is XG. City's was 3.6 but they scored 1....surely that just highlights pointlessness of it. City had 4 shots on target, 2 of them were regulation saves from distance.

Leeds beat City 2-1, Citys XG was 2 and Leeds 0.18. Its utterly meaningless to reality. This is football, not some equation the outcome of which is determined by a formula.

posted on 26/4/21

comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Sut mine klunker - Admin 5 (U1250)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
Hi Steve, why mention Laporte but not Regulion?


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First, I can't mention everyone and everything, and felt I covered the main talking points. Not sure what you wanted me to say about Reguilion ? He certainly did not play a specific key role in the game, unlike Larporte, who was clearly a talking point.
I don't write particularly bias posts. Yes, everyone on here knows my views on the media, but I do try to comment on things that are factual, not deluded.
You need to clarify why you mentioned Reguillion in particular ??
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Regulion made a similar foul and didn't get booked either. Why moan about Laporta? Either both should have got booked, or both got away with it. Whatever it should be, the ref was consistent.

posted on 26/4/21


No they were way better. All i said was they didnt "tear us apart" and we werent saved from a thrashing by "woeful finishing". There was lots of last ditch challenges and blocks to protect our goal. Many shots from from outside/edge of area and we defended in numbers which limited our ability to attack, which we did little of.
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Sounds like City tore you apart

posted on 26/4/21

comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sut mine klunker - Admin 5 (U1250)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 4 minutes ago
Why is that Laporte thing even a debate? Do you really think if he was on a yellow for the first he would have committed the foul that led to the second? Moura was on the halfway line. If Laporte had let him go on account of him being on a yellow it's extremely doubtful anything would have come of it anyway. It's naive to suggest that the tackle would have remained the same. City absolutely tore us apart and were it not for woeful finishing, brilliant goalkeeping and heroic defending, it would have been a cricket score. We have no grounds to moan about decisions.

On your point about City's dominance - yes they spend big but no bigger than United and Chelsea, who in recent years (apart from this one with United) we've competed closely with in the league. There's one reason and one reason only (no, I'm not Ted Hastings) why City are as dominant as they are - Pep Guardiola. He won't be there forever. Prior to his arrival, sure they won things, but they certainly weren't dominant. That will change eventually. We should be using it as an inspiration rather than poking it with a stick. I think the most they've spent on one player is for Dias at around £60m. That's the same as Ndombele roughly. It's about getting every area right. Owners, recruitment, manager, style of play. Sure money helps but whilst it can buy you trophies, it can't buy domination.
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City did not tear us apart! They dominated the ball but they didnt create a huge amount of chances and they didnt miss any sitters and won from a set piece. "woeful finishing" is a complete exaggeration but even still, finishing is a skill like any other part of the game so if they were guilty of woeful finishing that is a criticism of them not us being lucky. Don't get me wrong, we were barely in the game, but we actually defended pretty well.

As for the Laporte thing, Lucas may have been on the half way line but beyond Laporte he was effectively clean through & no way Laporte was catching him so who knows what may have come from that situation. It should not be dismissed so easily that City always foul to break up the counter attacks and player like Fernandino have denied belief in the past with the amount of fouls he gives away without being booked. Just more weak reffing and this whole "dont book a player early in the game" BS is inexcusable.
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City did not tear us apart! They dominated the ball but they didnt create a huge amount of chances
------------------
Yeah, they only mustered 21 shots
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Look, I fully support that everyone on here is entitled to an opinion, but to say Laporte would not have made the second tackle if he had ( quite rightly ) received a card for the first tackle. That is absolute rubbish, and not even close to wishful thinking.
He made two yellow card tackles. Should have gone. End of.
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It isn't wishful thinking. The second time he made a decision based on the fact he would get a yellow card. It was 100% a calculated foul. He wouldn't have done it if he was on a yellow. Not a chance.

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this is backed up by the fact that no player on a yellow card has ever committed a second bookable offence.

posted on 26/4/21

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Sut mine klunker - Admin 5 (U1250)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by Sut mine klunker - Admin 5 (U1250)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 4 minutes ago
Why is that Laporte thing even a debate? Do you really think if he was on a yellow for the first he would have committed the foul that led to the second? Moura was on the halfway line. If Laporte had let him go on account of him being on a yellow it's extremely doubtful anything would have come of it anyway. It's naive to suggest that the tackle would have remained the same. City absolutely tore us apart and were it not for woeful finishing, brilliant goalkeeping and heroic defending, it would have been a cricket score. We have no grounds to moan about decisions.

On your point about City's dominance - yes they spend big but no bigger than United and Chelsea, who in recent years (apart from this one with United) we've competed closely with in the league. There's one reason and one reason only (no, I'm not Ted Hastings) why City are as dominant as they are - Pep Guardiola. He won't be there forever. Prior to his arrival, sure they won things, but they certainly weren't dominant. That will change eventually. We should be using it as an inspiration rather than poking it with a stick. I think the most they've spent on one player is for Dias at around £60m. That's the same as Ndombele roughly. It's about getting every area right. Owners, recruitment, manager, style of play. Sure money helps but whilst it can buy you trophies, it can't buy domination.
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City did not tear us apart! They dominated the ball but they didnt create a huge amount of chances and they didnt miss any sitters and won from a set piece. "woeful finishing" is a complete exaggeration but even still, finishing is a skill like any other part of the game so if they were guilty of woeful finishing that is a criticism of them not us being lucky. Don't get me wrong, we were barely in the game, but we actually defended pretty well.

As for the Laporte thing, Lucas may have been on the half way line but beyond Laporte he was effectively clean through & no way Laporte was catching him so who knows what may have come from that situation. It should not be dismissed so easily that City always foul to break up the counter attacks and player like Fernandino have denied belief in the past with the amount of fouls he gives away without being booked. Just more weak reffing and this whole "dont book a player early in the game" BS is inexcusable.
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City did not tear us apart! They dominated the ball but they didnt create a huge amount of chances
------------------
Yeah, they only mustered 21 shots
----------------------------------------------------------------------

How many top class saves did Lloris have to make? Why was he not man of the match if they "tore us apart" "had 21 shots" and yet managed 1 goal from a set piece.
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2 at least

Based on your shots your XG was 0.4, City was xG 3.6 or something. I know its all Hafi bullcrap but tell you that City did outclass you.
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No they were way better. All i said was they didnt "tear us apart" and we werent saved from a thrashing by "woeful finishing". There was lots of last ditch challenges and blocks to protect our goal. Many shots from from outside/edge of area and we defended in numbers which limited our ability to attack, which we did little of.

I mean WTF is XG. City's was 3.6 but they scored 1....surely that just highlights pointlessness of it. City had 4 shots on target, 2 of them were regulation saves from distance.

Leeds beat City 2-1, Citys XG was 2 and Leeds 0.18. Its utterly meaningless to reality. This is football, not some equation the outcome of which is determined by a formula.
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posted on 26/4/21

comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sut mine klunker - Admin 5 (U1250)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 4 minutes ago
Why is that Laporte thing even a debate? Do you really think if he was on a yellow for the first he would have committed the foul that led to the second? Moura was on the halfway line. If Laporte had let him go on account of him being on a yellow it's extremely doubtful anything would have come of it anyway. It's naive to suggest that the tackle would have remained the same. City absolutely tore us apart and were it not for woeful finishing, brilliant goalkeeping and heroic defending, it would have been a cricket score. We have no grounds to moan about decisions.

On your point about City's dominance - yes they spend big but no bigger than United and Chelsea, who in recent years (apart from this one with United) we've competed closely with in the league. There's one reason and one reason only (no, I'm not Ted Hastings) why City are as dominant as they are - Pep Guardiola. He won't be there forever. Prior to his arrival, sure they won things, but they certainly weren't dominant. That will change eventually. We should be using it as an inspiration rather than poking it with a stick. I think the most they've spent on one player is for Dias at around £60m. That's the same as Ndombele roughly. It's about getting every area right. Owners, recruitment, manager, style of play. Sure money helps but whilst it can buy you trophies, it can't buy domination.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

City did not tear us apart! They dominated the ball but they didnt create a huge amount of chances and they didnt miss any sitters and won from a set piece. "woeful finishing" is a complete exaggeration but even still, finishing is a skill like any other part of the game so if they were guilty of woeful finishing that is a criticism of them not us being lucky. Don't get me wrong, we were barely in the game, but we actually defended pretty well.

As for the Laporte thing, Lucas may have been on the half way line but beyond Laporte he was effectively clean through & no way Laporte was catching him so who knows what may have come from that situation. It should not be dismissed so easily that City always foul to break up the counter attacks and player like Fernandino have denied belief in the past with the amount of fouls he gives away without being booked. Just more weak reffing and this whole "dont book a player early in the game" BS is inexcusable.
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City did not tear us apart! They dominated the ball but they didnt create a huge amount of chances
------------------
Yeah, they only mustered 21 shots
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Look, I fully support that everyone on here is entitled to an opinion, but to say Laporte would not have made the second tackle if he had ( quite rightly ) received a card for the first tackle. That is absolute rubbish, and not even close to wishful thinking.
He made two yellow card tackles. Should have gone. End of.
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It isn't wishful thinking. The second time he made a decision based on the fact he would get a yellow card. It was 100% a calculated foul. He wouldn't have done it if he was on a yellow. Not a chance.

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this is backed up by the fact that no player on a yellow card has ever committed a second bookable offence.
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Yeh as if any player has ever committed a 2nd bookable, after being booked.

posted on 26/4/21

comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sut mine klunker - Admin 5 (U1250)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 4 minutes ago
Why is that Laporte thing even a debate? Do you really think if he was on a yellow for the first he would have committed the foul that led to the second? Moura was on the halfway line. If Laporte had let him go on account of him being on a yellow it's extremely doubtful anything would have come of it anyway. It's naive to suggest that the tackle would have remained the same. City absolutely tore us apart and were it not for woeful finishing, brilliant goalkeeping and heroic defending, it would have been a cricket score. We have no grounds to moan about decisions.

On your point about City's dominance - yes they spend big but no bigger than United and Chelsea, who in recent years (apart from this one with United) we've competed closely with in the league. There's one reason and one reason only (no, I'm not Ted Hastings) why City are as dominant as they are - Pep Guardiola. He won't be there forever. Prior to his arrival, sure they won things, but they certainly weren't dominant. That will change eventually. We should be using it as an inspiration rather than poking it with a stick. I think the most they've spent on one player is for Dias at around £60m. That's the same as Ndombele roughly. It's about getting every area right. Owners, recruitment, manager, style of play. Sure money helps but whilst it can buy you trophies, it can't buy domination.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

City did not tear us apart! They dominated the ball but they didnt create a huge amount of chances and they didnt miss any sitters and won from a set piece. "woeful finishing" is a complete exaggeration but even still, finishing is a skill like any other part of the game so if they were guilty of woeful finishing that is a criticism of them not us being lucky. Don't get me wrong, we were barely in the game, but we actually defended pretty well.

As for the Laporte thing, Lucas may have been on the half way line but beyond Laporte he was effectively clean through & no way Laporte was catching him so who knows what may have come from that situation. It should not be dismissed so easily that City always foul to break up the counter attacks and player like Fernandino have denied belief in the past with the amount of fouls he gives away without being booked. Just more weak reffing and this whole "dont book a player early in the game" BS is inexcusable.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
City did not tear us apart! They dominated the ball but they didnt create a huge amount of chances
------------------
Yeah, they only mustered 21 shots
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Look, I fully support that everyone on here is entitled to an opinion, but to say Laporte would not have made the second tackle if he had ( quite rightly ) received a card for the first tackle. That is absolute rubbish, and not even close to wishful thinking.
He made two yellow card tackles. Should have gone. End of.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It isn't wishful thinking. The second time he made a decision based on the fact he would get a yellow card. It was 100% a calculated foul. He wouldn't have done it if he was on a yellow. Not a chance.

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this is backed up by the fact that no player on a yellow card has ever committed a second bookable offence.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Pretty far off what I said. Of course there are lots of cases where players get two yellows. Often for a split second mistimed tackle. What Laporte did yesterday was cynical. He had time to make his decision and did so based on the fact he hadn't been booked. You see players who are on a yellow in similar situations avoid contact as they know they're already on a yellow.

posted on 26/4/21

comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sut mine klunker - Admin 5 (U1250)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 4 minutes ago
Why is that Laporte thing even a debate? Do you really think if he was on a yellow for the first he would have committed the foul that led to the second? Moura was on the halfway line. If Laporte had let him go on account of him being on a yellow it's extremely doubtful anything would have come of it anyway. It's naive to suggest that the tackle would have remained the same. City absolutely tore us apart and were it not for woeful finishing, brilliant goalkeeping and heroic defending, it would have been a cricket score. We have no grounds to moan about decisions.

On your point about City's dominance - yes they spend big but no bigger than United and Chelsea, who in recent years (apart from this one with United) we've competed closely with in the league. There's one reason and one reason only (no, I'm not Ted Hastings) why City are as dominant as they are - Pep Guardiola. He won't be there forever. Prior to his arrival, sure they won things, but they certainly weren't dominant. That will change eventually. We should be using it as an inspiration rather than poking it with a stick. I think the most they've spent on one player is for Dias at around £60m. That's the same as Ndombele roughly. It's about getting every area right. Owners, recruitment, manager, style of play. Sure money helps but whilst it can buy you trophies, it can't buy domination.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

City did not tear us apart! They dominated the ball but they didnt create a huge amount of chances and they didnt miss any sitters and won from a set piece. "woeful finishing" is a complete exaggeration but even still, finishing is a skill like any other part of the game so if they were guilty of woeful finishing that is a criticism of them not us being lucky. Don't get me wrong, we were barely in the game, but we actually defended pretty well.

As for the Laporte thing, Lucas may have been on the half way line but beyond Laporte he was effectively clean through & no way Laporte was catching him so who knows what may have come from that situation. It should not be dismissed so easily that City always foul to break up the counter attacks and player like Fernandino have denied belief in the past with the amount of fouls he gives away without being booked. Just more weak reffing and this whole "dont book a player early in the game" BS is inexcusable.
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City did not tear us apart! They dominated the ball but they didnt create a huge amount of chances
------------------
Yeah, they only mustered 21 shots
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Look, I fully support that everyone on here is entitled to an opinion, but to say Laporte would not have made the second tackle if he had ( quite rightly ) received a card for the first tackle. That is absolute rubbish, and not even close to wishful thinking.
He made two yellow card tackles. Should have gone. End of.
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It isn't wishful thinking. The second time he made a decision based on the fact he would get a yellow card. It was 100% a calculated foul. He wouldn't have done it if he was on a yellow. Not a chance.

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this is backed up by the fact that no player on a yellow card has ever committed a second bookable offence.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Pretty far off what I said. Of course there are lots of cases where players get two yellows. Often for a split second mistimed tackle. What Laporte did yesterday was cynical. He had time to make his decision and did so based on the fact he hadn't been booked. You see players who are on a yellow in similar situations avoid contact as they know they're already on a yellow.

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Im not sure why people are wasting their time exolaing this.

Spurs record in finals is self explanatory.

It is now 4 finals in a row with no goal scored. 3 league cups and a CL final. That is now no trophy in 13 years. That is 8 fa cup semi final defeats in a row.

0.04XG

posted on 26/4/21

comment by Sky-blue (U22529)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by PhilspursFGR (U3278)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sut mine klunker - Admin 5 (U1250)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 4 minutes ago
Why is that Laporte thing even a debate? Do you really think if he was on a yellow for the first he would have committed the foul that led to the second? Moura was on the halfway line. If Laporte had let him go on account of him being on a yellow it's extremely doubtful anything would have come of it anyway. It's naive to suggest that the tackle would have remained the same. City absolutely tore us apart and were it not for woeful finishing, brilliant goalkeeping and heroic defending, it would have been a cricket score. We have no grounds to moan about decisions.

On your point about City's dominance - yes they spend big but no bigger than United and Chelsea, who in recent years (apart from this one with United) we've competed closely with in the league. There's one reason and one reason only (no, I'm not Ted Hastings) why City are as dominant as they are - Pep Guardiola. He won't be there forever. Prior to his arrival, sure they won things, but they certainly weren't dominant. That will change eventually. We should be using it as an inspiration rather than poking it with a stick. I think the most they've spent on one player is for Dias at around £60m. That's the same as Ndombele roughly. It's about getting every area right. Owners, recruitment, manager, style of play. Sure money helps but whilst it can buy you trophies, it can't buy domination.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

City did not tear us apart! They dominated the ball but they didnt create a huge amount of chances and they didnt miss any sitters and won from a set piece. "woeful finishing" is a complete exaggeration but even still, finishing is a skill like any other part of the game so if they were guilty of woeful finishing that is a criticism of them not us being lucky. Don't get me wrong, we were barely in the game, but we actually defended pretty well.

As for the Laporte thing, Lucas may have been on the half way line but beyond Laporte he was effectively clean through & no way Laporte was catching him so who knows what may have come from that situation. It should not be dismissed so easily that City always foul to break up the counter attacks and player like Fernandino have denied belief in the past with the amount of fouls he gives away without being booked. Just more weak reffing and this whole "dont book a player early in the game" BS is inexcusable.
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City did not tear us apart! They dominated the ball but they didnt create a huge amount of chances
------------------
Yeah, they only mustered 21 shots
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Look, I fully support that everyone on here is entitled to an opinion, but to say Laporte would not have made the second tackle if he had ( quite rightly ) received a card for the first tackle. That is absolute rubbish, and not even close to wishful thinking.
He made two yellow card tackles. Should have gone. End of.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It isn't wishful thinking. The second time he made a decision based on the fact he would get a yellow card. It was 100% a calculated foul. He wouldn't have done it if he was on a yellow. Not a chance.

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this is backed up by the fact that no player on a yellow card has ever committed a second bookable offence.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Pretty far off what I said. Of course there are lots of cases where players get two yellows. Often for a split second mistimed tackle. What Laporte did yesterday was cynical. He had time to make his decision and did so based on the fact he hadn't been booked. You see players who are on a yellow in similar situations avoid contact as they know they're already on a yellow.

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Im not sure why people are wasting their time exolaing this.

Spurs record in finals is self explanatory.

It is now 4 finals in a row with no goal scored. 3 league cups and a CL final. That is now no trophy in 13 years. That is 8 fa cup semi final defeats in a row.

0.04XG
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Wrong nine semi-finals in a row.

posted on 26/4/21

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comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 4 minutes ago
Why is that Laporte thing even a debate? Do you really think if he was on a yellow for the first he would have committed the foul that led to the second? Moura was on the halfway line. If Laporte had let him go on account of him being on a yellow it's extremely doubtful anything would have come of it anyway. It's naive to suggest that the tackle would have remained the same. City absolutely tore us apart and were it not for woeful finishing, brilliant goalkeeping and heroic defending, it would have been a cricket score. We have no grounds to moan about decisions.

On your point about City's dominance - yes they spend big but no bigger than United and Chelsea, who in recent years (apart from this one with United) we've competed closely with in the league. There's one reason and one reason only (no, I'm not Ted Hastings) why City are as dominant as they are - Pep Guardiola. He won't be there forever. Prior to his arrival, sure they won things, but they certainly weren't dominant. That will change eventually. We should be using it as an inspiration rather than poking it with a stick. I think the most they've spent on one player is for Dias at around £60m. That's the same as Ndombele roughly. It's about getting every area right. Owners, recruitment, manager, style of play. Sure money helps but whilst it can buy you trophies, it can't buy domination.
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City did not tear us apart! They dominated the ball but they didnt create a huge amount of chances and they didnt miss any sitters and won from a set piece. "woeful finishing" is a complete exaggeration but even still, finishing is a skill like any other part of the game so if they were guilty of woeful finishing that is a criticism of them not us being lucky. Don't get me wrong, we were barely in the game, but we actually defended pretty well.

As for the Laporte thing, Lucas may have been on the half way line but beyond Laporte he was effectively clean through & no way Laporte was catching him so who knows what may have come from that situation. It should not be dismissed so easily that City always foul to break up the counter attacks and player like Fernandino have denied belief in the past with the amount of fouls he gives away without being booked. Just more weak reffing and this whole "dont book a player early in the game" BS is inexcusable.
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City did not tear us apart! They dominated the ball but they didnt create a huge amount of chances
------------------
Yeah, they only mustered 21 shots
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Look, I fully support that everyone on here is entitled to an opinion, but to say Laporte would not have made the second tackle if he had ( quite rightly ) received a card for the first tackle. That is absolute rubbish, and not even close to wishful thinking.
He made two yellow card tackles. Should have gone. End of.
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It isn't wishful thinking. The second time he made a decision based on the fact he would get a yellow card. It was 100% a calculated foul. He wouldn't have done it if he was on a yellow. Not a chance.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
this is backed up by the fact that no player on a yellow card has ever committed a second bookable offence.
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Pretty far off what I said. Of course there are lots of cases where players get two yellows. Often for a split second mistimed tackle. What Laporte did yesterday was cynical. He had time to make his decision and did so based on the fact he hadn't been booked. You see players who are on a yellow in similar situations avoid contact as they know they're already on a yellow.

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Im not sure why people are wasting their time exolaing this.

Spurs record in finals is self explanatory.

It is now 4 finals in a row with no goal scored. 3 league cups and a CL final. That is now no trophy in 13 years. That is 8 fa cup semi final defeats in a row.

0.04XG
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Wrong nine semi-finals in a row.
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We're clearly lacking £1.3bn worth of investment in the team.

posted on 26/4/21

Steve, good article but one thing I will disagree with is that defeatist Spursy attitude of “well other clubs spends so much more than us so we can’t expect to win trophies “ eerrrrr Bolloks, we play some of the highest ticket prices in world football and other clubs that have been dog s** for the best part of 10 years like Arsenal have trophies to their name in recent years. Leicester who potentially could win the Fa cup and have won the bloody premier league spend nowhere city’s money, yet proudly have trophies to their name. Our inept ability to get over the line when it truly matters is bordering on lunacy. How do we keep doing it ? A record semi final losses in a row. 4 final losses with 0 goals scored. They freeze as a group of players and freeze as a club. We are known for being the biggest bottle jobs on the planet for a reason. Stop feeling sorry for ourselves and just bloody admit it. Until we win trophies, we will forever be ridiculed and too right.

posted on 26/4/21

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Harry Kane. My view is, yet again, he played in a final when not fit. That said, we do have a problem with this guy. My feeling is we have to either get better players around him, or cash in before it's too late and rebuild. Otherwise we just have a single talent that is being swallowed up in the mediocrity around him.
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If Harry Kane played yesterday when "not fit", then the manager is to blame. He is the one in charge of the line-up, is he not?

As far as Harry Kane's market value, it continues to plummet. Yes, he does score a lot of goals, but he is also hurt a lot. I don't believe that his latest injury was due to a rough tackle? He does seem to be injury prone, and clubs may not be willing to pony up a lot of cash for someone like this.

posted on 26/4/21

Simple fact of it is City’s team cost £883.57 million. Also with the arguably the world’s most progressive manager, whom has been at the helm now for 5 years.

Another important fact, without Lloris yesterday the score would’ve been 3 or 4 nil. Hence the XG.

posted on 26/4/21

comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 11 seconds ago
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Harry Kane. My view is, yet again, he played in a final when not fit. That said, we do have a problem with this guy. My feeling is we have to either get better players around him, or cash in before it's too late and rebuild. Otherwise we just have a single talent that is being swallowed up in the mediocrity around him.
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If Harry Kane played yesterday when "not fit", then the manager is to blame. He is the one in charge of the line-up, is he not?

As far as Harry Kane's market value, it continues to plummet. Yes, he does score a lot of goals, but he is also hurt a lot. I don't believe that his latest injury was due to a rough tackle? He does seem to be injury prone, and clubs may not be willing to pony up a lot of cash for someone like this.
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Injury prone is over the top. Last season was his worst and he still played 34 games. This season he'll play close to 50 and previously he has played 40 and 48. It isn't like he is only getting out for 15-20 games a season. Plus at a club that has more depth, he can be rested where needed which will probably lead to him playing more games. His injury record won't be a problem at all.

posted on 26/4/21

Injury prone nearly 300 apps at 27.

posted on 26/4/21

comment by sandy, Ryan Mason, super league boss for 24 ho... (U20567)
posted 5 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 6 minutes ago
Why is that Laporte thing even a debate? Do you really think if he was on a yellow for the first he would have committed the foul that led to the second? Moura was on the halfway line. If Laporte had let him go on account of him being on a yellow it's extremely doubtful anything would have come of it anyway. It's naive to suggest that the tackle would have remained the same. City absolutely tore us apart and were it not for woeful finishing, brilliant goalkeeping and heroic defending, it would have been a cricket score. We have no grounds to moan about decisions.

On your point about City's dominance - yes they spend big but no bigger than United and Chelsea, who in recent years (apart from this one with United) we've competed closely with in the league. There's one reason and one reason only (no, I'm not Ted Hastings) why City are as dominant as they are - Pep Guardiola. He won't be there forever. Prior to his arrival, sure they won things, but they certainly weren't dominant. That will change eventually. We should be using it as an inspiration rather than poking it with a stick. I think the most they've spent on one player is for Dias at around £60m. That's the same as Ndombele roughly. It's about getting every area right. Owners, recruitment, manager, style of play. Sure money helps but whilst it can buy you trophies, it can't buy domination.
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Pep Guardiola has spent £883.57 million in his five years at the club, including buying two players for over £60 million, five players for over £50 million, four players for over £40 million. He may not have purchased any mega money player, but he has blown all opposition out of the water with the spending power he has on tap.

You are making out that Pep is so good he is doing it on a shoestring. How good would he be without the money?


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What is your point? Once again your team, and super star Harry, failed to get the job done. Getting rid off Jose really produced results!

posted on 26/4/21

comment by TobyJanKaneobi (U15068)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
Simple fact of it is City’s team cost £883.57 million. Also with the arguably the world’s most progressive manager, whom has been at the helm now for 5 years.

Another important fact, without Lloris yesterday the score would’ve been 3 or 4 nil. Hence the XG.
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This is such bollox, it should be the cost of the team they field, not the cost of transfers over 5 years.

comment by bomdia (U13941)

posted on 26/4/21

comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 5 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by Sut mine klunker - Admin 5 (U1250)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 4 minutes ago
Why is that Laporte thing even a debate? Do you really think if he was on a yellow for the first he would have committed the foul that led to the second? Moura was on the halfway line. If Laporte had let him go on account of him being on a yellow it's extremely doubtful anything would have come of it anyway. It's naive to suggest that the tackle would have remained the same. City absolutely tore us apart and were it not for woeful finishing, brilliant goalkeeping and heroic defending, it would have been a cricket score. We have no grounds to moan about decisions.

On your point about City's dominance - yes they spend big but no bigger than United and Chelsea, who in recent years (apart from this one with United) we've competed closely with in the league. There's one reason and one reason only (no, I'm not Ted Hastings) why City are as dominant as they are - Pep Guardiola. He won't be there forever. Prior to his arrival, sure they won things, but they certainly weren't dominant. That will change eventually. We should be using it as an inspiration rather than poking it with a stick. I think the most they've spent on one player is for Dias at around £60m. That's the same as Ndombele roughly. It's about getting every area right. Owners, recruitment, manager, style of play. Sure money helps but whilst it can buy you trophies, it can't buy domination.
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City did not tear us apart! They dominated the ball but they didnt create a huge amount of chances and they didnt miss any sitters and won from a set piece. "woeful finishing" is a complete exaggeration but even still, finishing is a skill like any other part of the game so if they were guilty of woeful finishing that is a criticism of them not us being lucky. Don't get me wrong, we were barely in the game, but we actually defended pretty well.

As for the Laporte thing, Lucas may have been on the half way line but beyond Laporte he was effectively clean through & no way Laporte was catching him so who knows what may have come from that situation. It should not be dismissed so easily that City always foul to break up the counter attacks and player like Fernandino have denied belief in the past with the amount of fouls he gives away without being booked. Just more weak reffing and this whole "dont book a player early in the game" BS is inexcusable.
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City did not tear us apart! They dominated the ball but they didnt create a huge amount of chances
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Yeah, they only mustered 21 shots
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Look, I fully support that everyone on here is entitled to an opinion, but to say Laporte would not have made the second tackle if he had ( quite rightly ) received a card for the first tackle. That is absolute rubbish, and not even close to wishful thinking.
He made two yellow card tackles. Should have gone. End of.
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Had Reguilon correctly been carded for his 'tackle' on Foden in the first few minutes then Laporte would also have been carded, the ref clearly explained that to the Spurs players. Would Reguilon have then hacked down KDB (for which he was carded) and sent off? Probably not, any more than Laporte would have made the tackle that got him carded had he been on a yellow. It is a ridiculous argument.

posted on 27/4/21

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 20 hours, 32 minutes ago
Regarding us not winning anything, I kind of agree with you there. I think it's wildly overplayed. The bottom line is that these days the very biggest clubs get to the finals so when we come to face them, we're never favourites to win anyway. To lose those finals were to be expected. It was par. I think we're in a difficult position. We're supposedly a member of the Premier League elite but in truth there is the top four teams in City, United, Chelsea and Liverpool and then there is a bit of a drop to Spurs and Arsenal, in terms of the traditional top six. We're Andy Murray in an era of Federer, Nadal and Djokovic. We get to finals but someone much bigger comes along and snatches it from us. Sure, Arsenal won the FA Cup last year but with a bit of luck, we would have won some of the finals we've lost too. It's a combination of better teams and bad luck. Not some mystical hoodoo we can't shed.
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Liverpool had an off day in the cl final. And city were having an off day in front of goal. No danger of spurs capitalising though. We didn’t turn up in the cl final and the less said about the city game the better.

The chances have been there to win cups. We just haven’t taken them. Europa league this season we were the favourites for the competition after the Zagreb first leg...... then we lost the second leg 3-0 face if we just don’t have it in us to get across the line.

posted on 27/4/21

comment by bomdia (U13941)
posted 12 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 5 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by Sut mine klunker - Admin 5 (U1250)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 4 minutes ago
Why is that Laporte thing even a debate? Do you really think if he was on a yellow for the first he would have committed the foul that led to the second? Moura was on the halfway line. If Laporte had let him go on account of him being on a yellow it's extremely doubtful anything would have come of it anyway. It's naive to suggest that the tackle would have remained the same. City absolutely tore us apart and were it not for woeful finishing, brilliant goalkeeping and heroic defending, it would have been a cricket score. We have no grounds to moan about decisions.

On your point about City's dominance - yes they spend big but no bigger than United and Chelsea, who in recent years (apart from this one with United) we've competed closely with in the league. There's one reason and one reason only (no, I'm not Ted Hastings) why City are as dominant as they are - Pep Guardiola. He won't be there forever. Prior to his arrival, sure they won things, but they certainly weren't dominant. That will change eventually. We should be using it as an inspiration rather than poking it with a stick. I think the most they've spent on one player is for Dias at around £60m. That's the same as Ndombele roughly. It's about getting every area right. Owners, recruitment, manager, style of play. Sure money helps but whilst it can buy you trophies, it can't buy domination.
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City did not tear us apart! They dominated the ball but they didnt create a huge amount of chances and they didnt miss any sitters and won from a set piece. "woeful finishing" is a complete exaggeration but even still, finishing is a skill like any other part of the game so if they were guilty of woeful finishing that is a criticism of them not us being lucky. Don't get me wrong, we were barely in the game, but we actually defended pretty well.

As for the Laporte thing, Lucas may have been on the half way line but beyond Laporte he was effectively clean through & no way Laporte was catching him so who knows what may have come from that situation. It should not be dismissed so easily that City always foul to break up the counter attacks and player like Fernandino have denied belief in the past with the amount of fouls he gives away without being booked. Just more weak reffing and this whole "dont book a player early in the game" BS is inexcusable.
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City did not tear us apart! They dominated the ball but they didnt create a huge amount of chances
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Yeah, they only mustered 21 shots
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Look, I fully support that everyone on here is entitled to an opinion, but to say Laporte would not have made the second tackle if he had ( quite rightly ) received a card for the first tackle. That is absolute rubbish, and not even close to wishful thinking.
He made two yellow card tackles. Should have gone. End of.
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Had Reguilon correctly been carded for his 'tackle' on Foden in the first few minutes then Laporte would also have been carded, the ref clearly explained that to the Spurs players. Would Reguilon have then hacked down KDB (for which he was carded) and sent off? Probably not, any more than Laporte would have made the tackle that got him carded had he been on a yellow. It is a ridiculous argument.
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What`s ridiculous about players getting two yellow cards for fouls, and then getting sent off. Back to bed for you fella.

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