Bless you Kitty ... a proper fan. You'll be back soon enough. 👍
comment by Igor Carpe Diem (U22200)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
comment by SaudiRam (U4240)
posted less than a minute ago
I have fervently followed this club for the whole of my existence (56yrs). Football takes your emotions to places that sometimes can’t be rationalised into words. Today was one of those moments. I have managed to stop the tears in the past, and there have been numerous moments when they would have been valid. The relief at the final whistle coincided with my wife calling from England. Tears of happiness ensued.
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I echo those emotions, similar age as well mate.
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Thanks.
comment by Peeder (U1684)
posted 52 minutes ago
Bless you Kitty ... a proper fan. You'll be back soon enough. 👍
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Cough cough
And you Sloopy, thanks for the kind wishes, hope it's short lived for you in L1.
comment by Scouse (U9675)
posted about 2 hours ago
comment by Wicklowram (U18957)
posted 1 minute ago
And in answer to the original question of which of the team of 72 would I have picked for today....all of them
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Dave Mackay would have put in a better performance than Fozzie today.
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Or any day xx
comment by The Owl 🦉 & hELLo Kitty (U1750)
posted 2 hours, 3 minutes ago
Best wishes for next season guys
Truth be known, we've been hamstrung all season with the 11 point deduction (reduced to 6) but we have honestly been poor all season, and myself and many other Owls' fans have expected this for most of the season.
Feel like it's one of those things that we had to hit rock bottom (please god let it be this and not League 2) before things can get better. Too many players out of contract and alleged non-payment of full wages don't make for good team spirit.
From your point of view, you should be thanking Cardiff for that late equaliser
Never mind. It'll be reyt - as we say in Yorkshire. Seen it all before - more than once and hopefully we can get back to the Championship before too long, and the PL before I depart this mortal coil
When's next season start . . .
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Thanks Kitty. Obviously relieved to have escaped, but all of us in the bottom four had been sailing close to the wind, and skill was never going to be the decider.
Hope to be playing you next season (preferably in the Championship!) You bring special values, and every team needs a Kitty
comment by Igor Carpe Diem (U22200)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
And you Sloopy, thanks for the kind wishes, hope it's short lived for you in L1.
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Thank you Igor
I hope so too but I fear we may be stuck down there a while. You only have to look at some of the clubs still fighting to get out. It's certainly not an easy place to return from. We have experienced it ourselves. As have others. Genuinely hope you do well next season. Proper club
Yeah I didn't fancy our chances either sloppy. The euphoria is starting to wear off a bit now.
That was some really bad football we were subjected to.
Fancy our chances if we went down I meant.
Sloppy & Kitty, pop back any time guys, to let us know how it's going
Yes, Sloppy and Kitty - 2 genuine posters And football fans.
Now I've started to come down, I can see your pain - think I would have been far worse if the situation had been reversed
As Ang says, you're welcome here anytime
Finally celebrating with a Jamesons Crested 🥃🥃
Just another thought... the curse of the crucial 89th minute goal has been lifted off us and passed to Rotherham.
Thank you Cardiff for your assistance in this.
Went for a long walk immediately after the game with the headphones on.
The reality and emotion of it all only really set in with Curt's interview on RD
I was literally shaking towards the end of the game for a while afterwards. I was at the zoo with my wife and 4 year old son and arranged to take a break alone to watch. When reuniting with them my son immediately said “Daddy, did you win?” I tried to explain “no, but kinda yes” and when he asked again in the the end I just said “yes” with a little tear in my eye. 😀
Fin, note goal difference didn't matter.
Don't think I have ever been so wracked with nerves during a game. Had we gone down as I expected us to I think we would have been in major trouble. Even now I am very concerned about the off the field stuff.
I went back to Pride Park after the game. I think it's perfectly OK for the players to show their happiness at avoiding the drop. I'm sure that in the cold light of day there will be plenty of analysis of what has gone wrong. It's easy to apportion blame at owner, manager or players we don't like but it's been a combination of things. Bad luck with injuries to crucial players has definitely played its part but the main reason has been Morris's strategy of gambling increasingly desperately on trying to find a magic way of getting promoted rather than doing it by building good foundations and improving incrementally. The exception to this being the investment into the Academy which might still bear fruit if allied to a sounder base of experience on the pitch.
Fairly often a club survives by the inch of its teeth and thinks it has avoided a disaster, but then just goes down the following season instead. That happened to us in 1983. I fear we may be moving on to another boom or bust type of owner when what we clearly need is sensible stewardship and stability. It's anyone's guess where we will find ourselves a year from now.
comment by Spart-Derby really are the best says red dog. (U4603)
posted 6 minutes ago
Fin, note goal difference didn't matter.
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Exactly as I told everyone you’d guaranteed us it wouldn’t ...
Just like I guaranteed we wouldn't get a points deduction. Again no one believed me.
I know it's all if's and maybe's now but looking at the final league positions with Wycombe finishing one place below us, just how crucial that Wisdom winning goal turned out.
Also bar that idiot of a chairman that Rotherham have, who sky seemed to covered more than the game as he shouts how things were going from the stands, a touch sorry for them as I'd say without their Covid problems may well have been safe and with some ease in a normal programme of games.
Wycombe started playing with freedom once they thought they were doomed, as sometimes happens. They SHOULD have been, in fact Rotherham and Wednesday should and would have also been cut adrift if we had just performed moderately poorly over the last ten games. We managed to keep them all in it. You could say that all four deserved to go down since in some years you go down with 48 points. Don't care though.
I feel a bit sorry for Mel, as a fan he wanted it to work and put his cash in but therein lies the problem, he was too emotionally engaged, and probably ego driven. We need some cold faceless investment types running the show for a long term growth. Leave the passion to the fans.
Mel did for Derby what Ribsdale did at Leeds, gambled by spending well over what the club could afford to achieve promotion (champions league football in the case of Leeds) When the gamble didn't pay off the club was too indebted to recover.. Sheffield Wednesday did the same as us but we have a short window now to put things right. Wolves and Leicester took the same gamble and it paid off, probably because their owners weren't as Wicklow said, emotionally attached to the club. .
We do need investment though and not many assets to sell:
Marshall
Byrne
Lawrence
The only ones I can see fetching a bit of coin. Lawrence and Marshall would need to be replaced. Byrne I think will be a miss but be replaceable.
Striker
CM x 2 (3 preferably)
Central DF x 2
GK
Can Ibe and Marriott sort out their demons? Doesn't look good so far. Rooney needs an experienced head in the coaching setup at the very least.
I don't think we can rely on up and coming players we need some established players particularly in the middle of the park. Loans can help but it's rare you get leadership from that.
Do we just bring in mid to lower table journeymen with leadership qualities n hope to bring on the academy players. I can't do another season with Shinnie, Bird and Knight not playing football in the centre of the park though and the most concerning is the scant evidence that Rooney and Rosenior can coach a team, coach a style of play, make subs and motivate let alone out coach other coaches.
GK??? I thought Marshall was okay, n think he'd be the cheapest option if he isn't a bad egg. Rooney does need to learn some diplomacy too though. Fergie didn't suffer fools its true but he also didn't let players be fools.
Mengi/Edmundson (loan)
Clarke (buy)
Stewart (Blackpool)
Hourihane
Bannan
Loan Striker/Deeney
Gregory. (buy)
Harry Wilson (loan)
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posted on 8/5/21
Bless you Kitty ... a proper fan. You'll be back soon enough. 👍
posted on 8/5/21
comment by Igor Carpe Diem (U22200)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
comment by SaudiRam (U4240)
posted less than a minute ago
I have fervently followed this club for the whole of my existence (56yrs). Football takes your emotions to places that sometimes can’t be rationalised into words. Today was one of those moments. I have managed to stop the tears in the past, and there have been numerous moments when they would have been valid. The relief at the final whistle coincided with my wife calling from England. Tears of happiness ensued.
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I echo those emotions, similar age as well mate.
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Thanks.
posted on 8/5/21
comment by Peeder (U1684)
posted 52 minutes ago
Bless you Kitty ... a proper fan. You'll be back soon enough. 👍
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Cough cough
posted on 8/5/21
And you Sloopy, thanks for the kind wishes, hope it's short lived for you in L1.
posted on 8/5/21
comment by Scouse (U9675)
posted about 2 hours ago
comment by Wicklowram (U18957)
posted 1 minute ago
And in answer to the original question of which of the team of 72 would I have picked for today....all of them
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Dave Mackay would have put in a better performance than Fozzie today.
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Or any day xx
posted on 8/5/21
comment by The Owl 🦉 & hELLo Kitty (U1750)
posted 2 hours, 3 minutes ago
Best wishes for next season guys
Truth be known, we've been hamstrung all season with the 11 point deduction (reduced to 6) but we have honestly been poor all season, and myself and many other Owls' fans have expected this for most of the season.
Feel like it's one of those things that we had to hit rock bottom (please god let it be this and not League 2) before things can get better. Too many players out of contract and alleged non-payment of full wages don't make for good team spirit.
From your point of view, you should be thanking Cardiff for that late equaliser
Never mind. It'll be reyt - as we say in Yorkshire. Seen it all before - more than once and hopefully we can get back to the Championship before too long, and the PL before I depart this mortal coil
When's next season start . . .
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Thanks Kitty. Obviously relieved to have escaped, but all of us in the bottom four had been sailing close to the wind, and skill was never going to be the decider.
Hope to be playing you next season (preferably in the Championship!) You bring special values, and every team needs a Kitty
posted on 8/5/21
comment by Igor Carpe Diem (U22200)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
And you Sloopy, thanks for the kind wishes, hope it's short lived for you in L1.
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Thank you Igor
I hope so too but I fear we may be stuck down there a while. You only have to look at some of the clubs still fighting to get out. It's certainly not an easy place to return from. We have experienced it ourselves. As have others. Genuinely hope you do well next season. Proper club
posted on 8/5/21
Yeah I didn't fancy our chances either sloppy. The euphoria is starting to wear off a bit now.
That was some really bad football we were subjected to.
posted on 8/5/21
Fancy our chances if we went down I meant.
posted on 8/5/21
Sloppy & Kitty, pop back any time guys, to let us know how it's going
posted on 8/5/21
Yes, Sloppy and Kitty - 2 genuine posters And football fans.
Now I've started to come down, I can see your pain - think I would have been far worse if the situation had been reversed
As Ang says, you're welcome here anytime
posted on 8/5/21
Finally celebrating with a Jamesons Crested 🥃🥃
posted on 8/5/21
Just another thought... the curse of the crucial 89th minute goal has been lifted off us and passed to Rotherham.
Thank you Cardiff for your assistance in this.
posted on 8/5/21
Went for a long walk immediately after the game with the headphones on.
The reality and emotion of it all only really set in with Curt's interview on RD
posted on 8/5/21
I was literally shaking towards the end of the game for a while afterwards. I was at the zoo with my wife and 4 year old son and arranged to take a break alone to watch. When reuniting with them my son immediately said “Daddy, did you win?” I tried to explain “no, but kinda yes” and when he asked again in the the end I just said “yes” with a little tear in my eye. 😀
posted on 8/5/21
Fin, note goal difference didn't matter.
posted on 8/5/21
Don't think I have ever been so wracked with nerves during a game. Had we gone down as I expected us to I think we would have been in major trouble. Even now I am very concerned about the off the field stuff.
I went back to Pride Park after the game. I think it's perfectly OK for the players to show their happiness at avoiding the drop. I'm sure that in the cold light of day there will be plenty of analysis of what has gone wrong. It's easy to apportion blame at owner, manager or players we don't like but it's been a combination of things. Bad luck with injuries to crucial players has definitely played its part but the main reason has been Morris's strategy of gambling increasingly desperately on trying to find a magic way of getting promoted rather than doing it by building good foundations and improving incrementally. The exception to this being the investment into the Academy which might still bear fruit if allied to a sounder base of experience on the pitch.
Fairly often a club survives by the inch of its teeth and thinks it has avoided a disaster, but then just goes down the following season instead. That happened to us in 1983. I fear we may be moving on to another boom or bust type of owner when what we clearly need is sensible stewardship and stability. It's anyone's guess where we will find ourselves a year from now.
posted on 8/5/21
comment by Spart-Derby really are the best says red dog. (U4603)
posted 6 minutes ago
Fin, note goal difference didn't matter.
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Exactly as I told everyone you’d guaranteed us it wouldn’t ...
posted on 8/5/21
Just like I guaranteed we wouldn't get a points deduction. Again no one believed me.
posted on 8/5/21
I know it's all if's and maybe's now but looking at the final league positions with Wycombe finishing one place below us, just how crucial that Wisdom winning goal turned out.
Also bar that idiot of a chairman that Rotherham have, who sky seemed to covered more than the game as he shouts how things were going from the stands, a touch sorry for them as I'd say without their Covid problems may well have been safe and with some ease in a normal programme of games.
posted on 8/5/21
Wycombe started playing with freedom once they thought they were doomed, as sometimes happens. They SHOULD have been, in fact Rotherham and Wednesday should and would have also been cut adrift if we had just performed moderately poorly over the last ten games. We managed to keep them all in it. You could say that all four deserved to go down since in some years you go down with 48 points. Don't care though.
posted on 8/5/21
I feel a bit sorry for Mel, as a fan he wanted it to work and put his cash in but therein lies the problem, he was too emotionally engaged, and probably ego driven. We need some cold faceless investment types running the show for a long term growth. Leave the passion to the fans.
posted on 8/5/21
Mel did for Derby what Ribsdale did at Leeds, gambled by spending well over what the club could afford to achieve promotion (champions league football in the case of Leeds) When the gamble didn't pay off the club was too indebted to recover.. Sheffield Wednesday did the same as us but we have a short window now to put things right. Wolves and Leicester took the same gamble and it paid off, probably because their owners weren't as Wicklow said, emotionally attached to the club. .
posted on 8/5/21
We do need investment though and not many assets to sell:
Marshall
Byrne
Lawrence
The only ones I can see fetching a bit of coin. Lawrence and Marshall would need to be replaced. Byrne I think will be a miss but be replaceable.
Striker
CM x 2 (3 preferably)
Central DF x 2
GK
Can Ibe and Marriott sort out their demons? Doesn't look good so far. Rooney needs an experienced head in the coaching setup at the very least.
I don't think we can rely on up and coming players we need some established players particularly in the middle of the park. Loans can help but it's rare you get leadership from that.
Do we just bring in mid to lower table journeymen with leadership qualities n hope to bring on the academy players. I can't do another season with Shinnie, Bird and Knight not playing football in the centre of the park though and the most concerning is the scant evidence that Rooney and Rosenior can coach a team, coach a style of play, make subs and motivate let alone out coach other coaches.
posted on 8/5/21
GK??? I thought Marshall was okay, n think he'd be the cheapest option if he isn't a bad egg. Rooney does need to learn some diplomacy too though. Fergie didn't suffer fools its true but he also didn't let players be fools.
Mengi/Edmundson (loan)
Clarke (buy)
Stewart (Blackpool)
Hourihane
Bannan
Loan Striker/Deeney
Gregory. (buy)
Harry Wilson (loan)
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