Sacking Arteta wouldn't make a huge difference. You'd still have garbage players with no hunger.
If Arteta stays then we will be relegated next season
comment by Flip Flop Flip Flop (U22503)
posted 6 minutes ago
If Arteta stays then we will be relegated next season
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Behave 😂
comment by Flip Flop Flip Flop (U22503)
posted 12 minutes ago
If Arteta stays then we will be relegated next season
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Well there’s something to look forward to
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Flip Flop Flip Flop (U22503)
posted 12 minutes ago
If Arteta stays then we will be relegated next season
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Well there’s something to look forward to
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Your team lost 2-1 to this bag of sh*te
You would have thought you would have learnt from the Ozil debacle and then you go sign PEA, Willian & Luiz.... laughable
Arsenal fans need to trust the process
BTW everyone knew was a pup.... There’s a reason why his buyout was so cheap and nobody with half a brain cell was interested
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 second ago
BTW everyone knew was a pup.... There’s a reason why his buyout was so cheap and nobody with half a brain cell was interested
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Partey
Sacking managers every 12-18 months will get you nowhere in the long-term when you are in the position you are in. It's not just as simple as continue to experiment until somebody comes in and works. Arteta might not be the man for the job, but he will need another couple of seasons minimum.
Coquelin looked twice the player partey did last night
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 15 minutes ago
Sacking Arteta wouldn't make a huge difference. You'd still have garbage players with no hunger.
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Nah that excuse don't wash for Arteta. He has had a stronger squad than either Emery or Wenger in his final years. There is absolutely no justification for the dire results this season. With the exception of Xhaka, Willian and Luiz the problem has not been that the players weren't good enough. The problem all season has been that the manager is a complete moron who is clueless about the strengths and weaknesses of his players. It has been so bad the dude apparently cannot even tell the difference between an attack-minded player and a defensive one.
It was clear from the very start that Arteta was going to attempt the impossible. Bloated with unwarranted arrogance and delusions of grandeur, he decided that he was/is ssssoo fecking brilliant at managing that he was going to take an overwhelmingly fast paced attack-attributed and minded squad and succeed by playing all out defensive football with them. Doubling down on his foolishness in the face of massive failure, all season long.
This is obviously the worst management performance in Arsenal PL history. But for me, the nature of how Arteta has gone about this miserable failure, playing dictator, his petty favouritism, bullying (for want of a better term) and most of all his blind arrogant "I won't change I'll double down like Trump" attitude. All make this quite possibly the worst management performance in all PL history, not just Arsenal. No other manager has actually sabotaged his own squad and repeatedly shot him self in the foot all season the way Arteta has this one. So no, no blaming a weak squad, Arteta just fecked up royally end of. And it was abundantly clear he was going to before the seaason even started. Can't believe you guys expected anything other than his miserable failure.
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 9 minutes ago
Sacking managers every 12-18 months will get you nowhere in the long-term when you are in the position you are in. It's not just as simple as continue to experiment until somebody comes in and works. Arteta might not be the man for the job, but he will need another couple of seasons minimum.
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Sticking with the wrong manager in the blind hope that things will magically click doesn't work in the long run either.
Arsenals players are really not very good. It doesn't go too much deeper than that.
If Spurs can sack Jose just before a final surely we can sack Arteta for
1. 13 PL defeats
2. Repeated crap tactics trying to play without a striker in a european semi final based on the fact Man City did it the night before. Man City have De Breunner and Mahrez etc, We have fack all
3. Willian
4. Throwing away the FA Cup without a fight
Should never have appointed him in the first place and got Ancelotti. Allegri could have come but was going to be denied funds that he needed.
Arteta Out
Kroeneke Out
Edu Out
Vinai Out
comment by Kroenke_out (U21076)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 9 minutes ago
Sacking managers every 12-18 months will get you nowhere in the long-term when you are in the position you are in. It's not just as simple as continue to experiment until somebody comes in and works. Arteta might not be the man for the job, but he will need another couple of seasons minimum.
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Sticking with the wrong manager in the blind hope that things will magically click doesn't work in the long run either.
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There is no guarantee that he is the wrong manager though.
I think fans seem to think the universal method for transforming a club happens within 1-2 years. It doesn't. The job on at Arsenal will take a decade to sort out.
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - FSG lets s... (U1108)
posted 42 minutes ago
Arsenal fans need to trust the process
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It is a sad state of affairs for the fans when you want to lose every game to oust your manager...I never knew of such concept and have always wanted Spurs to win regardless...until Jose Mourinho.
So I feel your pain
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 10 minutes ago
Sacking managers every 12-18 months will get you nowhere in the long-term when you are in the position you are in. It's not just as simple as continue to experiment until somebody comes in and works. Arteta might not be the man for the job, but he will need another couple of seasons minimum.
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No, you don't give a man who has made it crystal clear HE WON'T CHANGE ANYTHING, even when he is setting records at losing and dragging the club name through the loser mud "another couple of seasons." Arteta is simply not up to the job and won't be for quite some time (if ever at all).
This club is not one to be some rookie manager's "make all ya feckups here" training wheels job. If the new owner (when we get one) doesn't sack Arteta immediately, as his first act in charge. Then despite his purchase, Arsenal fans will have to ask ourselves "Is this bloke even serious about winning anything either?"
ARTETA MUST GO! He should have been sacked back in Dec/Jan. And let's face it, at any other club of our standing, he most probably would have been. if not he'd DEFINITELY be out of a job next season.
It's very easy to say that of course because of what the fans see however what nobody knows is what is going on behind closed doors regarding the owners, manager, players and staff really.
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 3 minutes ago
It's very easy to say that of course because of what the fans see however what nobody knows is what is going on behind closed doors regarding the owners, manager, players and staff really.
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More delusion
Why has he not been sacked yet ?
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 21 minutes ago
Arsenals players are really not very good. It doesn't go too much deeper than that.
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But it really isn't.
Leno..was one of the best goalies in the league prior to this season I'd bet. Easily top 5 and a position we have had problems with for years prior to him coming in. Tierney is in the top 3 LB in the league. Gabriel is. Top class defender. Mari as well...a bit like Mertesacker..not flashy but reads the game well and makes no mistakes. Partey is in his first season and it was riddled with injury and no consistent partnerships around him. He should come good. Saka is highly rated. ESR at AM was a revelation. It's his first run in the team at this level and I wish he plays consistently at AM which he did not once Odegaard came in. Martinelli is one with a very bright future and always gives his all. Pepe is much maligned but he has shown consistent good play when he has a run. If he had been brought in for 35mill, we'd be satisfied with his performances. I think he can get better. Auba is a proven world class player. Lacazette offers different attributes and is a very good player too. Cedric is a solid RB.
All these players for one reason or another have either not played when they should, been overplayed or suffered massive loss of form. They collectively have not achieved their potential this season. There is only one person to blame for that. Arteta.
As a player..I can't imagine the effect it has with it being a total gamble if you are going to start or not...and often times seeing a player who is shiiiiiiiit (bellerin, nketiah, holding, chambers) start in front of you.
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 3 minutes ago
It's very easy to say that of course because of what the fans see however what nobody knows is what is going on behind closed doors regarding the owners, manager, players and staff really.
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More delusion
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Is it?
But apparently a Barca/United fan also knows the ins and outs of Arsenal FC and understands what is happening at the club as well then.
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Kroenke_out (U21076)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 9 minutes ago
Sacking managers every 12-18 months will get you nowhere in the long-term when you are in the position you are in. It's not just as simple as continue to experiment until somebody comes in and works. Arteta might not be the man for the job, but he will need another couple of seasons minimum.
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Sticking with the wrong manager in the blind hope that things will magically click doesn't work in the long run either.
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There is no guarantee that he is the wrong manager though.
I think fans seem to think the universal method for transforming a club happens within 1-2 years. It doesn't. The job on at Arsenal will take a decade to sort out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is nothing to do with thinking the process can be done over one season. It's about whether the bloke in the job has at least looked like having the right idea to the point of being worth another shot. EG
Manager plays entertaining, attractive football when it goes right for him but injury smashes his squad knee-capping him all season...
Injuries done him in...he can keep job.
Manager picks the right players, gets the best out of his squad but the squad itself is dire and needs investment...he can keep job.
But manager who sells and loans at least 3 of his strongest squad assets, picks the wrong team every week because he's playing favourites, psses off his entire team with sh !t tactics that don't suit them, injures players unnecessarily through poor rotation, bullies any player who dares question him and just generally puts about 5-10 obstacles that weren't there to begin with, in his own way BEATING HIMSELF WITH HIS OWN ARROGANCE...
All the time in the world ain't changing him so HE NEEDS TO GET SACKED!
At this point the sacking is exactly what Arteta NEEDS to develop his career. He's failed miserably and he has got to be made to pay the price for it. Maybe then he will learn but he ain't gonna learn by being rewarded with another season to feck up. Keeping him in the job will show a distinct and exceptional lack of ambition by any new owner, straight off the bat.
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posted on 7/5/21
Sacking Arteta wouldn't make a huge difference. You'd still have garbage players with no hunger.
posted on 7/5/21
If Arteta stays then we will be relegated next season
posted on 7/5/21
comment by Flip Flop Flip Flop (U22503)
posted 6 minutes ago
If Arteta stays then we will be relegated next season
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Behave 😂
posted on 7/5/21
comment by Flip Flop Flip Flop (U22503)
posted 12 minutes ago
If Arteta stays then we will be relegated next season
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Well there’s something to look forward to
posted on 7/5/21
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Flip Flop Flip Flop (U22503)
posted 12 minutes ago
If Arteta stays then we will be relegated next season
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Well there’s something to look forward to
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Your team lost 2-1 to this bag of sh*te
posted on 7/5/21
You would have thought you would have learnt from the Ozil debacle and then you go sign PEA, Willian & Luiz.... laughable
posted on 7/5/21
Arsenal fans need to trust the process
posted on 7/5/21
BTW everyone knew was a pup.... There’s a reason why his buyout was so cheap and nobody with half a brain cell was interested
posted on 7/5/21
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 second ago
BTW everyone knew was a pup.... There’s a reason why his buyout was so cheap and nobody with half a brain cell was interested
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Partey
posted on 7/5/21
Sacking managers every 12-18 months will get you nowhere in the long-term when you are in the position you are in. It's not just as simple as continue to experiment until somebody comes in and works. Arteta might not be the man for the job, but he will need another couple of seasons minimum.
posted on 7/5/21
Coquelin looked twice the player partey did last night
posted on 7/5/21
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 15 minutes ago
Sacking Arteta wouldn't make a huge difference. You'd still have garbage players with no hunger.
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Nah that excuse don't wash for Arteta. He has had a stronger squad than either Emery or Wenger in his final years. There is absolutely no justification for the dire results this season. With the exception of Xhaka, Willian and Luiz the problem has not been that the players weren't good enough. The problem all season has been that the manager is a complete moron who is clueless about the strengths and weaknesses of his players. It has been so bad the dude apparently cannot even tell the difference between an attack-minded player and a defensive one.
It was clear from the very start that Arteta was going to attempt the impossible. Bloated with unwarranted arrogance and delusions of grandeur, he decided that he was/is ssssoo fecking brilliant at managing that he was going to take an overwhelmingly fast paced attack-attributed and minded squad and succeed by playing all out defensive football with them. Doubling down on his foolishness in the face of massive failure, all season long.
This is obviously the worst management performance in Arsenal PL history. But for me, the nature of how Arteta has gone about this miserable failure, playing dictator, his petty favouritism, bullying (for want of a better term) and most of all his blind arrogant "I won't change I'll double down like Trump" attitude. All make this quite possibly the worst management performance in all PL history, not just Arsenal. No other manager has actually sabotaged his own squad and repeatedly shot him self in the foot all season the way Arteta has this one. So no, no blaming a weak squad, Arteta just fecked up royally end of. And it was abundantly clear he was going to before the seaason even started. Can't believe you guys expected anything other than his miserable failure.
posted on 7/5/21
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 9 minutes ago
Sacking managers every 12-18 months will get you nowhere in the long-term when you are in the position you are in. It's not just as simple as continue to experiment until somebody comes in and works. Arteta might not be the man for the job, but he will need another couple of seasons minimum.
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Sticking with the wrong manager in the blind hope that things will magically click doesn't work in the long run either.
posted on 7/5/21
Arsenals players are really not very good. It doesn't go too much deeper than that.
posted on 7/5/21
If Spurs can sack Jose just before a final surely we can sack Arteta for
1. 13 PL defeats
2. Repeated crap tactics trying to play without a striker in a european semi final based on the fact Man City did it the night before. Man City have De Breunner and Mahrez etc, We have fack all
3. Willian
4. Throwing away the FA Cup without a fight
Should never have appointed him in the first place and got Ancelotti. Allegri could have come but was going to be denied funds that he needed.
Arteta Out
Kroeneke Out
Edu Out
Vinai Out
posted on 7/5/21
comment by Kroenke_out (U21076)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 9 minutes ago
Sacking managers every 12-18 months will get you nowhere in the long-term when you are in the position you are in. It's not just as simple as continue to experiment until somebody comes in and works. Arteta might not be the man for the job, but he will need another couple of seasons minimum.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sticking with the wrong manager in the blind hope that things will magically click doesn't work in the long run either.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There is no guarantee that he is the wrong manager though.
I think fans seem to think the universal method for transforming a club happens within 1-2 years. It doesn't. The job on at Arsenal will take a decade to sort out.
posted on 7/5/21
comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - FSG lets s... (U1108)
posted 42 minutes ago
Arsenal fans need to trust the process
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posted on 7/5/21
It is a sad state of affairs for the fans when you want to lose every game to oust your manager...I never knew of such concept and have always wanted Spurs to win regardless...until Jose Mourinho.
So I feel your pain
posted on 7/5/21
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 10 minutes ago
Sacking managers every 12-18 months will get you nowhere in the long-term when you are in the position you are in. It's not just as simple as continue to experiment until somebody comes in and works. Arteta might not be the man for the job, but he will need another couple of seasons minimum.
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No, you don't give a man who has made it crystal clear HE WON'T CHANGE ANYTHING, even when he is setting records at losing and dragging the club name through the loser mud "another couple of seasons." Arteta is simply not up to the job and won't be for quite some time (if ever at all).
This club is not one to be some rookie manager's "make all ya feckups here" training wheels job. If the new owner (when we get one) doesn't sack Arteta immediately, as his first act in charge. Then despite his purchase, Arsenal fans will have to ask ourselves "Is this bloke even serious about winning anything either?"
ARTETA MUST GO! He should have been sacked back in Dec/Jan. And let's face it, at any other club of our standing, he most probably would have been. if not he'd DEFINITELY be out of a job next season.
posted on 7/5/21
It's very easy to say that of course because of what the fans see however what nobody knows is what is going on behind closed doors regarding the owners, manager, players and staff really.
posted on 7/5/21
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 3 minutes ago
It's very easy to say that of course because of what the fans see however what nobody knows is what is going on behind closed doors regarding the owners, manager, players and staff really.
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More delusion
posted on 7/5/21
Why has he not been sacked yet ?
posted on 7/5/21
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 21 minutes ago
Arsenals players are really not very good. It doesn't go too much deeper than that.
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But it really isn't.
Leno..was one of the best goalies in the league prior to this season I'd bet. Easily top 5 and a position we have had problems with for years prior to him coming in. Tierney is in the top 3 LB in the league. Gabriel is. Top class defender. Mari as well...a bit like Mertesacker..not flashy but reads the game well and makes no mistakes. Partey is in his first season and it was riddled with injury and no consistent partnerships around him. He should come good. Saka is highly rated. ESR at AM was a revelation. It's his first run in the team at this level and I wish he plays consistently at AM which he did not once Odegaard came in. Martinelli is one with a very bright future and always gives his all. Pepe is much maligned but he has shown consistent good play when he has a run. If he had been brought in for 35mill, we'd be satisfied with his performances. I think he can get better. Auba is a proven world class player. Lacazette offers different attributes and is a very good player too. Cedric is a solid RB.
All these players for one reason or another have either not played when they should, been overplayed or suffered massive loss of form. They collectively have not achieved their potential this season. There is only one person to blame for that. Arteta.
As a player..I can't imagine the effect it has with it being a total gamble if you are going to start or not...and often times seeing a player who is shiiiiiiiit (bellerin, nketiah, holding, chambers) start in front of you.
posted on 7/5/21
comment by #Culer (U22564)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 3 minutes ago
It's very easy to say that of course because of what the fans see however what nobody knows is what is going on behind closed doors regarding the owners, manager, players and staff really.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
More delusion
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Is it?
But apparently a Barca/United fan also knows the ins and outs of Arsenal FC and understands what is happening at the club as well then.
posted on 7/5/21
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Kroenke_out (U21076)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 9 minutes ago
Sacking managers every 12-18 months will get you nowhere in the long-term when you are in the position you are in. It's not just as simple as continue to experiment until somebody comes in and works. Arteta might not be the man for the job, but he will need another couple of seasons minimum.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sticking with the wrong manager in the blind hope that things will magically click doesn't work in the long run either.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There is no guarantee that he is the wrong manager though.
I think fans seem to think the universal method for transforming a club happens within 1-2 years. It doesn't. The job on at Arsenal will take a decade to sort out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is nothing to do with thinking the process can be done over one season. It's about whether the bloke in the job has at least looked like having the right idea to the point of being worth another shot. EG
Manager plays entertaining, attractive football when it goes right for him but injury smashes his squad knee-capping him all season...
Injuries done him in...he can keep job.
Manager picks the right players, gets the best out of his squad but the squad itself is dire and needs investment...he can keep job.
But manager who sells and loans at least 3 of his strongest squad assets, picks the wrong team every week because he's playing favourites, psses off his entire team with sh !t tactics that don't suit them, injures players unnecessarily through poor rotation, bullies any player who dares question him and just generally puts about 5-10 obstacles that weren't there to begin with, in his own way BEATING HIMSELF WITH HIS OWN ARROGANCE...
All the time in the world ain't changing him so HE NEEDS TO GET SACKED!
At this point the sacking is exactly what Arteta NEEDS to develop his career. He's failed miserably and he has got to be made to pay the price for it. Maybe then he will learn but he ain't gonna learn by being rewarded with another season to feck up. Keeping him in the job will show a distinct and exceptional lack of ambition by any new owner, straight off the bat.
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