Its not all on Arteta, I agree

Edu Gaspar has to learn or sacked because, he can’t keep buying over aged wadhed players like Luiz, Willian or Cedric its not working.

Paying Willian £200k/wk for scoring zero goals is scandalous tbh.

We need a manager that's brave enough to give youth a proper chance instead of the washed up players that just aren't up to the job.

I'm reminded of the time when Liverpool brought in Brendan Rodgers after spending millions on Stewart Downing. He gave the untried Sterling a chance ahead of him, and he almost helped them win the league the following year.

We need a manager to be brave enough to do the same with Martinelli, which Arteta clearly isn't prepared to do.

Brendan is a long shot can’t see him
Swapping CL football to shambles that is us.

Why does it need to be one or the other? Get a competent manager in AND back him. Giving the wrong manager the funds is completely pointless. Arteta needs to go manage a lesser club and prove himself, you can't tell me there aren't more qualified coaches out there to manage Arsenal.

The likes of Dean Smith are more qualified (not saying he is good enough, just making a point).

Being realistic we won’t be able to back Arteta by buying him players who are much better than what we have. Apparently the club will give him funds to bring in players, but I really can’t seeing in be ridiculous amounts, when you consider Covid impact and no European football. It’ll be poaching mid table players from prem or abroad at best, and maybe 1 ‘star signing’ like a partey. They won’t be huge upgrades on what we have. Maybe they’ll have potential to play better than what we have, but so do the players we have now. So whats to say Arteta will do any better with new players who are similar level to what we have, when on the whole he’s regressed this group further than Emery or Wenger did.

It is possible to improve the team without spending 300m on convincing top 4 players, but you need to have a good coach and great tactics. Is Arteta that? I would love him to be, but apart from hypothetical arguments, I can’t see any evidence that he’s capable of improving a different set of who will be largely of the same ability. Best I could imagine is he’d get us to 7th

Changing managers, rebuilding squads, its come at a bad time after a year of massive pandemic related financial losses.

I think a good few will continue development as a longer term project, rather than trusting one man with £300m now.

If Arteta stays be prepared for a relegation battle

I tried to back him, but how can you justify his decisions? Martinelli is currently our most in form player and he puts him on bench, Auba finally looked like old Auba and he was only threat and he takes him off last 10 mins and this is just this game, every game there are like 5 wrong decisions.

comment by 5-2 (U10698)
posted 1 minute ago
I tried to back him, but how can you justify his decisions? Martinelli is currently our most in form player and he puts him on bench, Auba finally looked like old Auba and he was only threat and he takes him off last 10 mins and this is just this game, every game there are like 5 wrong decisions.
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This basically.

WRONG DECISIONS! The feature trait of Mikel Arteta's management. All this BS about "Back not sack"/"He needs more time" is laughable. NOTHING that's hurt him in terms of getting results on the pitch this season has had anything to do with the owner, board, how the club is run or a weak squad overall.

The decisions that hurt us this season were purely management strategy and team selection related. Basically the squad is nowhere near bottom half/9th place weak. We've been languishing there all season because Arteta has been too stupid to use it even correctly, let alone to peak performance.

His tenure has been a list of management DON'TS. Giving it the dictator large when you're a rookie who ain't sh !t yet; publicly slating players; not playing by the dictator law he himself laid down; being 100% shut down to player input and the ultimate sin being so goddamned ARROGANT refusing to accept he was wrong and try something different.

His arrogance predictably resulted in his miserable failure and the fact is was actually his own arrogance which done so (humility could/would have saved him at any time) is the indisputable reason he must be sacked.

Willian will come good.

I would like to see if the club will back Arteta with ample funds to finally address the issues killing us.
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Apparently this is what the Kroenkes have promised but they are poison and I don't believe a word. Hung the club out to dry and Arteta to an extent. Feel sorry for Arteta but he has to go. Would live Ek and Co to come in and make a substantial bid, but need to offload most of the team!

Unbelievable some people still think this clueless, uninspirig manager should be backed.

I think the most important question that needs to be asked when evaluating Arteta has he got the best out of what he has and its a resounding no. Have Everton, West Ham and even Tottenham got a better squad than us absolutely not.

So in that sense if there was money to spend I wouldn't trust him to spend it correctly. Now add in his dreadful man management of Guendouzi, Saliba and most recently Martinelli plus his bizarre tactical decisions he's got to go. He should never have got the job in the first place.

The stat about not scoring in 10 home games is just embarrassing and unacceptable.

If someone is underperforming with what they have now, what makes you think they will do anything but underperform with whatever you give them?

comment by Admiral Ozil is my new favourite Star Wars character (U10178)
posted 19 minutes ago
I think the most important question that needs to be asked when evaluating Arteta has he got the best out of what he has and its a resounding no. Have Everton, West Ham and even Tottenham got a better squad than us absolutely not.

So in that sense if there was money to spend I wouldn't trust him to spend it correctly. Now add in his dreadful man management of Guendouzi, Saliba and most recently Martinelli plus his bizarre tactical decisions he's got to go. He should never have got the job in the first place.

The stat about not scoring in 10 home games is just embarrassing and unacceptable.
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Spot on

Arteta has aslong as he wants , he’s under zero pressure from the board. We could finish as low as 11th/12th it ain’t going to change anything. Even next season, no matter how poor we are Vinai and Edu will support him. I’ve tried to give him a proper chance but some of his tactical decisions in recent weeks have been unforgivable. Here’s to more mediocrity 🥳

comment by Admiral Ozil is my new favourite Star Wars character (U10178)
posted 5 hours, 1 minute ago
I think the most important question that needs to be asked when evaluating Arteta has he got the best out of what he has and its a resounding no. Have Everton, West Ham and even Tottenham got a better squad than us absolutely not.

So in that sense if there was money to spend I wouldn't trust him to spend it correctly. Now add in his dreadful man management of Guendouzi, Saliba and most recently Martinelli plus his bizarre tactical decisions he's got to go. He should never have got the job in the first place.

The stat about not scoring in 10 home games is just embarrassing and unacceptable.
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THIS!!!

It's not always about results. I would take losses if I knew what the faaaack he was trying to do. It's like Klopp at pool.. they leaked goals but you knew what style he wanted to play. And then a few signings made to complete the puzzle. Arteta has only been consistent in his inconsistencies and his very conservative instructions. After 16 months, I, others and Arteta himself...we don't know what is our best formation. No its not the 4231 because in our 2 biggest games recently, he has played a false 9 and a 4123/433 with Partey as the only CM. We don't know if we are meant to be pressing or sitting back...we do neither well. We fling in crosses like we have a prime Giroud up top. We don't know our best 11 as rotation in the wrong positions is rampant and players who should have been managed better were not. He talks about only hard working committed players can play and then subjects us to Willian. I could go on.

My point is (as was made above), why would anyone trust Arteta to identify who he needsand for what role? He'd have prime messi playing at wingback

Arteta has underachieved, even with this poor squad.

Totally agree OP.
The issue is teh quality of the playing staff - primarily.
Bouncing around from manager to manager at this stage is not the best thing to do.
Arteta needs at LEAST 2 full seasons.

Why would you trust a man who has failed to get the best out of his own signings?